IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 May 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:44 | <Katrinka> Hello!
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| 01:44 | Is there anyone&
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| 01:44 | ?
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| 01:44 | nobody..... :,(
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| 02:56 | <bao> can someone help me?
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| 02:57 | I have an problem in xdmcp in my system
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| 02:59 | my linux is opensuse 10.2, using only xdm, but no gdm (gnome) or kdm (kde)
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| 03:00 | <bao> can someone help me?
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| 03:01 | I have an problem in xdmcp in my system
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| 03:01 | my linux is opensuse 10.2, using only xdm, but no gdm (gnome) or kdm (kde)
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| 03:02 | when I run command ltspcfg, it tells me :Checking xdmcp...........Found: none!
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| 03:02 | what shoud I do?
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| 03:02 | hello jam
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| 03:04 | <bao> hello
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| 03:05 | can someone help me in ltsp?
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| 03:09 | time
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| 03:13 | <vagrantc> ogra: you around?
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| 03:14 | <bao> hello
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| 03:14 | is someone here?
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| 03:14 | <ogra> vagrantc, yep
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| 03:15 | <cyberorg> bao: yast2 -> /etc/sysconfig editor -> Desktop -> displaymanager -> displaymanager_remote_access -> yes
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| 03:15 | <bao> I think I have done it, let me check it again
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| 03:15 | <vagrantc> ogra: jammcq was wondering if we might grab you for a bit ... we've got some of the kernel folks here with us
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| 03:15 | <ogra> is that the bootspeed thing now ?
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| 03:15 | <RichEd> vagrantc: he's in edubuntu add-ons with me
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| 03:16 | <bao> thanks cyberorg
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| 03:16 | <ogra> RichEd, we need to schedule a second session with mvo anyway for that
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| 03:16 | <vagrantc> ogra: yeah, boot speed
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| 03:16 | <cyberorg> hi ogra vagrantc
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| 03:16 | <ogra> so working out the basics is enough for now
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| 03:16 | <RichEd> vagrantc: ask jammcq if he can get into IRC please ... nicely
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| 03:16 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: howedy
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| 03:17 | <cyberorg> cool, all of you guys at UDS?
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| 03:18 | <vagrantc> jammcq is fighting with network manager
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| 03:20 | <RichEd> cyberorg: the core LTSP guys are all here in 2 rooms ... not including me as a core guy, but I'm here as well
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| 03:26 | <bao> my xdmcp problem is still there
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| 03:26 | can someone help
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| 03:27 | hi guys
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| 03:27 | #help
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| 03:28 | <cyberorg> bao: try to connect over xdmcp from the client
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| 03:28 | you can do that by running X -query serverip at runlevel 3 after logging in
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| 03:29 | <bao> do you mean I needn't care setup ltspcfg now?
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| 03:29 | <cyberorg> if you have finished setup except of that error, try booting client
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| 03:30 | <bao> ok, I will try it, thanks
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| 03:30 | <cyberorg> bao: if you are interested in testing ltsp5 on suse visit en.opensuse.org/LTSP for more info
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| 03:31 | <bao> oh, I will try it
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| 03:31 | <cyberorg> it doesnt require xdmcp :)
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| 03:31 | <bao> really?
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| 03:32 | <cyberorg> sound and local printer still needs some work before they will work, local disks access sort of works
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| 03:33 | <bao> I don't care sound and printer so far
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| 03:33 | <cyberorg> cool, but it is far far away from production readiness
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| 03:34 | <bao> nice
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| 03:35 | where can I download ltsp 5?
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| 03:36 | <cyberorg> here is the status page http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/LTSP_Meeting_2007-04-24
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| 03:38 | <RichEd> bao ... ltsp 5 is nicely packaged and integrated for ubuntu ;)
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| 03:39 | <Bhaskar1> where can i find good documentation about LTSP 5
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| 03:39 | <vagrantc> !ltsp5
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| 03:39 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "ltsp5" is ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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| 03:39 | <bao> does ltsp 5 work with opensuse 10.2 (x86_64)?
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| 03:39 | <vagrantc> bao: sounds like they're just getting started with ltsp5
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| 03:39 | <RichEd> Bhaskar1: sbalneav does most of the documentation ... he's around here with me for a bit ... but not online now ... vagrantc ask scotty for a pointer please
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| 03:40 | <vagrantc> bao: but as long as oponsuse supports x86_64, then the opensuse ltsp5 implementation should work fine when it's finished.
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| 03:40 | <bao> oh, I wish it is even easy to setup
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| 03:40 | <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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| 03:41 | thats ow the suse variant should work as well
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| 03:41 | (if its done :) )
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| 03:41 | <cyberorg> ogra log way from done :)
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| 03:41 | *long
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| 03:41 | <ogra-classmate> we'll get you there :-)
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| 03:42 | <cyberorg> ogra yeah i'll eat you guy's brains out till you do
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| 03:42 | <bao> I can download ltsp 4.2 iso file and burn to a cd for setup, is there iso file for ltsp5 now?
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| 03:43 | <ogra> there are tarballs
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| 03:43 | <cyberorg> bao: iso files are history with ltsp5
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| 03:43 | <bao> ?
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| 03:43 | <cyberorg> http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/LTSP_Meeting_2007-04-24 has a link to download
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| 03:44 | here is a howto http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00390.html
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| 03:45 | except the dest path is changed to suse default for all servers /srv/
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| 03:45 | <bao> ok
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| 03:46 | it seems not very easy for me to get through ltsp5
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| 03:47 | <vagrantc> it's very easy on ubuntu and debian :)
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| 03:48 | <ogra> sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server
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| 03:48 | sudo ltsp-build-client
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| 03:48 | ...
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| 03:48 | whats hard about that ?
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| 03:48 | :)
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| 03:49 | <nf1> ogra, :)
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| 03:49 | <cyberorg> ogra: on suse it is just Run as root "sh /usr/share/kiwi/image/kwltsp-suse-10.2/setup-ltsp.sh"
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| 03:49 | <ogra> right
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| 03:49 | thats how it should be :)
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| 03:49 | <bao> oh
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| 03:50 | <cyberorg> sets up /srv/kiwi-ltsp chroot image, sets up nfs export, sets up initrd and kernel images in tftpboot
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| 03:50 | only thing that needs to be done manually is set up dhcp to pxeboot
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| 03:51 | <bao> oh, i would very like to try it, thanks cyberorg
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| 03:52 | BTW, what's reason of my problem in ltsp4.2, your guess?
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| 03:52 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, offline method to integrate LTSP 5 in debian
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| 03:54 | <cyberorg> bao: if you test xdmcp we would know if there actually is any problem :)
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| 03:55 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar1: grab the tarball
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| 03:55 | !tarball
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| 03:55 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 03:55 | <bao> but ltspcfg tell me : Checking xdmcp...........Found: none!
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| 03:55 | <ogra> Bhaskar1, in ubuntu we have it on the installer CD, you just pick it in an expert install ... or you take edubuntu which defaults to instal it
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| 03:56 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, i have now install edubuntu 7.04
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| 03:56 | <ogra> i assume debian has taken that but i never tested any debian CDs so i cant promis its ther :)
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| 03:57 | <Bhaskar1> i have debian based distro, i want to integrate LTSP 5 on that
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| 03:58 | <cyberorg> bao: boot up any machine on the network, run X -query serveripaddress
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| 03:58 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar1: apt-get install ltsp-server (or ltsp-server-standalone) and then run ltsp-build-client
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| 03:58 | Bhaskar1: on debian etch
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| 03:59 | <Bhaskar1> ya, but offline, i have try but my system is crashed
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| 03:59 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar1: debian is the 2nd distro to implement ltsp5
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| 03:59 | <Bhaskar1> ya, but i have Nepalinux based on debian, i want to integrate
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| 04:00 | <vagrantc> Bhaskar1: does nepalinux include the ltsp-server package and ltsp-client packages ?
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| 04:00 | <Bhaskar1> no
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| 04:01 | <vagrantc> well, you'll need those ...
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| 04:01 | Bhaskar1: nepalinux is based on debian?
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| 04:01 | <Bhaskar1> i have download 150 MB, package and run apt-get install ltsp-server (or ltsp-server-standalone) and then run ltsp-build-client
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| 04:01 | <vagrantc> no need to download the 150MB tarball if you install ltsp-server
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| 04:02 | <Bhaskar1> vagrantc, ya, Nepalinux is based on debian
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| 04:02 | <vagrantc> follow the instructions on !tarball
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| 04:02 | !tarball
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| 04:02 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 04:02 | <Bhaskar1> ok
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| 04:03 | vagrantc, i want to packaging this into Live CD also not in single pc
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| 04:04 | vagrantc, !tarball , can be used after installing syatem, ya
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| 04:05 | vagrantc, http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/ltsp_debian_etch_i386-1.tar.bz2 i used this one and crashed my system
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| 04:10 | <Nikopoika> i'm having problems booting ltsp-client using floppy
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| 04:11 | i used rom-o-matic to create a floppy rom image for my nic, it works fine until trying to load kernel to client
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| 04:13 | "loading 192.168.11.1:/tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 .."
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| 04:15 | <Nikopoika> also, if i check what bzImage... file contains, in the first row, it says "Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported"
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| 04:15 | <Nikopoika> might this be the answer to my problem? it just won't work with floppies?
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| 04:49 | <jammcq> Nikopoika: etherboot floppy booting should work just fine
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| 04:49 | that message just means you can't write the kernel to a floppy and expect it to boot
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| 04:49 | <Nikopoika> ok
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| 04:50 | what i've heard, booting should work fine, but mine just freezes to that "loading
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| 04:50 | 192.168.11.1:/tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 .."
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| 04:50 | <jammcq> Nikopoika: do this: grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf
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| 04:50 | yeah, you should NOT have the ip address in front of that
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| 04:50 | <Nikopoika> ok
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| 04:54 | <cyberorg> heh, i ran into that ip address thing too, added a line about it on ltsp.org wiki
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| 05:05 | <vagrantc> ogra_: how about some ldm improvements? :)
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| 05:05 | ogra_: we're doing that now, in F
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| 05:05 | <jammcq> oh?
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| 05:06 | I thought we were doing gphoto-ltspfs
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| 05:06 | <vagrantc> jammcq: you haven't been reading the schedule again, have you? :P
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| 05:08 | <jammcq> well, I read the sign on the door
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| 05:08 | <vagrantc> ogra_: and sign yourself up for ltsp virtual hal devices ... you seem to keep getting scheduled for other things at the same time
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| 05:22 | <Nikopoika> cyberorg: u know what's wrong with this? can u help me please?
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| 05:22 | <cyberorg> Nikopoika: with what?
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| 05:23 | <Nikopoika> filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0"
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| 05:23 | filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1"
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| 05:24 | "< cyberorg> heh, i ran into that ip address thing too"
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| 05:24 | is there something wrong in my dhcpd.conf?
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| 05:25 | <cyberorg> Nikopoika: pastebin your dhcpd.conf
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| 05:25 | <Nikopoika> ok, just a sec
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| 05:26 | <cyberorg> what is your tftpboot full path?
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| 05:26 | if it is /tftpboot then all you need there is "lts/2.xxxx/pxelinux.0"
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| 05:33 | <ltsppbot> "Nikopoika" pasted "configuration file" (27 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/121
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| 05:44 | <cyberorg> remove /tftpboot/ from the filename
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| 05:45 | <Nikopoika> ok
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| 07:33 | <jammcq> !s
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| 07:33 | <ltspbot`> jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 07:35 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq
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| 07:45 | <jkommeri> why is it that when I set SCREEN_01=shell and SCREEN_01=startx (in lts.conf) my keyboard works but not the otherway around? Should it matter in what order I set the screens?
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| 07:45 | <jammcq> you are setting both ?
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| 07:45 | <jkommeri> /s/SCREEN_01=startx/SCREEN_02=startx
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| 07:46 | <jammcq> oh
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| 07:46 | what version of ltsp ?
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| 07:46 | <jkommeri> 5
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| 07:46 | <cliebow_> jammcq!!!! how's it going?
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| 07:46 | <jammcq> ok, you should be setting SCREEN_07 instead of SCREEN_01
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| 07:46 | cliebow_: going great
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| 07:46 | how you doin?
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| 07:47 | <jkommeri> jammcq: SCREEN_07=shell? or startx?
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| 07:47 | <cliebow_> oh..ups and downs..still havfing fun !
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| 07:49 | jammcq changes topic to "LTSP-5.0 is the current version that you should be using. Especially if you are a new to LTSP. Check out Ubuntu and Debian for awesome integration. Or, go to the LTSP Download page at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Downloads" | |
| 07:49 | <jammcq> jkommeri: either one. My point is that LDM is already running on Screen 7, so you need to replace that.
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| 07:51 | <jkommeri> jammcq: ok
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| 07:53 | jammcq: thanks, that worked
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| 08:06 | <highvoltage> jammcq: http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/ubuntu-guadalinex-2007
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| 08:11 | <cliebow_> highvoltage, thanks!
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| 08:14 | <jsgotangco> highvoltage: the call center is running on linux?
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| 08:14 | doh yes
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| 08:14 | "guadalinex call center"
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| 08:14 | :D
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| 08:15 | <highvoltage> jsgotangco: yes, although their main display is running some form of windows software
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| 08:15 | <Burgundavia> notice the windows app
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| 08:16 | <jsgotangco> ah shucks i sure did miss one big field trip
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| 08:18 | <jsgotangco> "that guy looks like that guy from the red hot chili peppers"
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| 08:18 | isn't that kiko?
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| 08:31 | <Guaraldo> Buenos dias, señores!
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| 08:32 | jammcq: Good morning... How are you doing?
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| 08:33 | <jammcq> Guaraldo: bom dia
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| 08:35 | <danrez> bom dia =)
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| 09:10 | <mhterres> morning
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| 09:10 | <cliebow_> mhterres:morning
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| 09:46 | <anrke> hello
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| 09:54 | Hello, I am a French user of ltsp. I bought two LTSP Term 1220 PXE thin client who do not function. "trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/01-0013-90-01-65-00" and that is all. I use ltsp5 on debian etch
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| 10:00 | <Q-FUNK> anrke: interesting model.
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| 10:00 | <vagrantc> anrke: it never gets to pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 10:00 | <anrke> yes but I am not able to make it walk
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| 10:01 | <anrke> vagrantc : yes at the end. then it asks me to start again
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| 10:01 | <vagrantc> anrke: could you post the message ?
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| 10:02 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Good morning, Scotty!
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| 10:02 | <anrke> " pxelinux.cfg/01-0013-90-01-65-00" and c07800fs an "c0800f" and "coa800" and so on"
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| 10:02 | <vagrantc> anrke: what is the very last line it says?
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| 10:03 | <anrke> trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 10:03 | and reboot
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| 10:03 | <vagrantc> it just immediately reboots?
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| 10:03 | nothing else displayed on the screen ?
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| 10:04 | <anrke> at the end of a few seconds
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| 10:04 | it asks me to start again
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| 10:05 | <vagrantc> anrke: you told me the very last line is "trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/default"
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| 10:05 | <anrke> yes
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| 10:05 | <vagrantc> anrke: but then you tell me "it asks me to start again"
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| 10:06 | what is the very last line on the screen before it reboots?
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| 10:06 | <anrke> it asks me to start again
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| 10:07 | <vagrantc> well, i've never seen the error message "it asks me to start again".
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| 10:08 | <anrke> it is necessary that I start again the customer to read the messages again
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| 10:09 | sorry the thin client not the customer
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| 10:10 | <vagrantc> anrke: dpkg -l *tftpd*
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| 10:20 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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| 10:26 | <highvoltage> hey uncle jammcq.gz
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| 10:33 | <jammcq> highvoltage: howdie
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| 10:33 | <irule> hiya
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| 10:35 | <ogra_> jammcq, where do you hide ?
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| 10:36 | <jammcq> ogra_: i'm up in the room
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| 10:36 | <ogra> napping ?
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| 10:36 | <jammcq> umm, yeah
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| 10:36 | <ogra> :)
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| 10:36 | <jammcq> i'm sleeping right now, can't you tell ?
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| 10:38 | <ogra> heh
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| 10:38 | you are tlaking in your sleep ...
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| 10:39 | *talking as well
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| 10:39 | <jammcq> maybe I should snore
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| 10:39 | <ogra> dont hold back :)
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| 11:19 | <jammcq> hola
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| 11:19 | <mhterres> hola
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| 11:52 | <cliebow_> T33gan03
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| 12:05 | <fxrsliberty> Hello all, anyone got s sec?
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| 12:05 | jammcq: how are you
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| 12:08 | <cliebow_> fxrsliberty, how are you doing?
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| 12:08 | <fxrsliberty> hey cliebow
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| 12:08 | do you know the lts.conf for ltsp5 that bypasses ldm
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> SCREEN_07=startx
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| 12:09 | then you'll need to configure XDMCP on your server.
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| 12:09 | <fxrsliberty> thanks
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| 12:10 | <cliebow_> i was just gonna say that 8~)
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> cliebow_: you can walk fxrsliberty through XDMCP configuration if they need it then :)
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| 12:11 | <cliebow_> finally one i can answer 8~)
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| 12:12 | <fxrsliberty> is the word default in lts.conf "Default "?
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| 12:12 | <vagrantc> [Default]
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| 12:12 | <fxrsliberty> ty
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| 12:17 | <fxrsliberty> ok what steps to config xdmcp
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| 12:17 | <cliebow_> fxrsliberty, ubuntu?
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| 12:17 | of course..
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| 12:17 | use gdmconfig from a commandline
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| 12:17 | <fxrsliberty> nope
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| 12:17 | <Guaraldo> fxrsliberty: gdm or kdm?
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| 12:18 | <fxrsliberty> opensuse
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| 12:18 | <cliebow_> and gdm?
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| 12:18 | <fxrsliberty> yup
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| 12:18 | <Guaraldo> cliebow_: maybe kdm... opensuse uses kde
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| 12:19 | fxrsliberty: doesn't?
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| 12:19 | <fxrsliberty> :)
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| 12:19 | <cliebow_> fxrs: you have an /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess/
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| 12:20 | must have an Xaccess file somewhere
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| 12:20 | <Guaraldo> fxrsliberty: On gdm you must have a file named /etc/gdm/gdm.conf... on kdm you must have /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
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| 12:20 | <cliebow_> !grayscreen
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| 12:20 | <ltspbot`> cliebow_: "grayscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM
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| 12:20 | <cliebow_> fxrsliberty, try this url
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| 12:21 | <fxrsliberty> TY
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| 12:22 | <Guaraldo> YW, fxrsliberty!
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| 12:23 | <fxrsliberty> ttyl?
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| 12:32 | <jammcq_> dobwan: ping
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| 13:11 | <Katrinka> hello!!!
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| 13:11 | somebody!
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| 13:11 | help me with installing g++ on ltsp-4.2!!!
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| 13:12 | i don't see sources at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17723
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| 13:12 | what version do i need?
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| 13:18 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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| 13:19 | <cliebow_> zup?
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| 13:19 | <jammcq> not much
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| 13:19 | <cliebow_> good food?
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| 13:19 | <jammcq> yeah, we've found some great places
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| 13:20 | poor scotty has picked up a cold
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| 13:20 | he's upstairs sleeping right now
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| 13:21 | <cliebow_> tjhat happens quite a lot to him,poorbaby *~
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| 13:21 | <jammcq> hmm, usually it's me getting the cold
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| 13:21 | I had a terrible cold last year in Paris
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| 14:06 | <bawetic> I have a Edubuntu server with thin client running. How is it possible to get gdm on the client in french ? Hanx
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| 15:11 | <danrez> i have some wireless clients running Slax and connecting win2003 terminal server but now i would like to conect these thinclients to LTSP... slax got ip from DHCPD.. setting filename parameter on dhcpd.conf will Slax gets ltsp-kernel and connect to ltsp X server ?
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| 15:12 | <Guaraldo> danrez: Booting from dhcp???
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| 15:13 | <danrez> booting from slax CD
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| 15:13 | these thinclients are wireless
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| 15:14 | <Guaraldo> danrez: I mean... It will not take the kernel, but you can use LTSP server changing X configuration (startx script)
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| 15:14 | danrez: How it is a cd... I dont know how you can do that...
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| 15:14 | <danrez> configuring xdmcp
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| 15:15 | <Guaraldo> danrez: Does this clients are able to boot for wireless network (Is that possible?)?
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| 15:15 | <danrez> do u slax ?
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| 15:15 | its a livecd slackware based...
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| 15:15 | <Guaraldo> danrez: On server you must configure XDMCP
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| 15:16 | <danrez> it confiogures wireless cards and get ip from dhcp
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| 15:16 | <Guaraldo> danrez: Yep... I know Slax
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| 15:16 | <danrez> will try to explain my problem...
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| 15:17 | <Guaraldo> but what i meant was if is that possible to boot from wireless network (without cd or hd)
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| 15:17 | <danrez> no no no...
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| 15:17 | unfortunately.. this not possible..
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| 15:17 | hmmm
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| 15:17 | <sepski> Guaraldo, only with a extrenal wifi2ethernet bridge.
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| 15:17 | <danrez> i think its possible but not with not-very-expensive-pci-cards
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| 15:52 | <lindi-> debugged xvnc4viewer and xrealvncviewer a lot today. it turns out that when the background color of the desktop changes the protocol sends hundreds of 16x16 tiles. this is not a problem as such as it is transferred almost instantly over ethernet. the problem is that xvnc4viewer does XShmPutImage for _every_ such 16x16 tile which takes 20-80 ms on a 200MHz
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| 15:56 | <lindi-> not sure how relevant this is to ltsp though since i don't know if ltsp tries to only use X or if VNC is also an option ;)
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| 19:35 | <kuzew0> Hey all
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| 19:38 | Could anyone point me to a good howto on local devices and sound setup that they would recommend/have used, that would be great. I'm having a hard time on this one.
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| 20:38 | <petre> evening all
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| 23:07 | <leandro> Hi I am using Ubuntu edgy and I am unable to boot my client because he can't mount my nfs. But I am sure my nfs kernel server is running. Any ideas?
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| 23:29 | <tomcats> How come think client terminals are so expensive? You can get standard mobo, cpu and ram for less than $100 us yet thin client terminals are in the $250 pricerange...
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| 23:53 | <gaga> hello everyone
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| 23:58 | anyone here I can ask, am new to ltsp
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