IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 24 December 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 17:48 | <jeremies> How to stop a thin client that has autologin activated?
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| 17:49 | <alkisg> To power it off? From epoptes
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| 17:49 | Or from the menu, if you have a recent mate version
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| 17:50 | <jeremies> Yes to power it off
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| 17:50 | From the menu of the client?
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| 17:51 | From the menu of the client it boots the client another time.
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| 17:51 | <alkisg> Yes from the client menu. Are you using mate?
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| 17:52 | <jeremies> Yes
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| 17:53 | <alkisg> And you select poweroff and it reboots?
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| 17:54 | <jeremies> The computer doesn't reboot in the sense to boot the bios but it shows a black screen and then it shows another time the desktop start screen of mate.
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| 17:54 | With epoptes it works
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| 17:55 | <alkisg> OK. Some desktops were patched to do this for ltsp, it looks like the mate patch isn't there
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| 17:55 | So from the client you would need to call the epoptes logout/endsession script
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| 17:55 | E.g. make a desktop shortcut for it
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| 17:56 | <jeremies> Ok. Thank you.
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| 17:57 | alkisg: do you know if having a desktop computer wake up all the time can make its life shorter ?
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| 18:17 | <alkisg> jeremies: I don't know what "wake up all the time" means, as opposed to stand by?
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| 18:17 | No I don't think it can make its life shorter
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| 18:18 | <jeremies> I mean idle
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| 18:19 | <alkisg> idle is already woken up
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| 18:19 | It's not sleeping
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| 18:21 | <jeremies> Yes
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| 18:21 | <alkisg> I don't understand what you mean, tell it again using more words.
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| 18:24 | <jeremies> With the computer powered on (that is the state when you can work with it) all the time, its life isn't shortened ?
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| 18:26 | <alkisg> Well, it depends. There are servers running for 20 years without dying. So normally no, it shouldn't shorten its life.
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| 18:27 | Now if you have an SSD or an nvidia card working all the time etc they may be worn out after a lot of use
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| 20:46 | <jeremies> if you install a package with apt in a thin client the package gets installed in the image of the server?
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| 20:49 | <vagrantc> what do you mean by "in a thin client" ?
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| 20:50 | on a thin client, all the software that the user interacts with is installed on the server
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| 20:51 | <jeremies> but you can open a terminal and install a package
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| 20:53 | <vagrantc> and if you're running a thin client, that terminal is running on the server
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| 20:53 | and so will install software on the server
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| 20:53 | think of a thin client as another mouse, monitor and keyboard for the server
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| 20:54 | that said, in general it's recommended to use ltsp fat clients these days, if your client hardware can support it
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| 20:56 | <jeremies> but when you update the image that package will be removed, isn't it?
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| 21:00 | <vagrantc> in a thin client, nothing gets installed on the thin client
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| 21:00 | it loads it's operating system from the image on the server
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| 21:01 | all applications, terminals, web browsers, software installation programs, run and operate on the server
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| 21:01 | so when you install software from a thin client, it's no different than installing it on the server
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| 21:01 | other thin clients will get the same software installed
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| 21:02 | and when you rebuild the image, you'll still connect to the same server with the same software installed
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| 21:02 | if you're running an ltsp fat client, it's different
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| 21:03 | now, if you're messing around with the LTSP chroot, that's another story
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| 21:04 | like i said earlier, think of a thin client as another mouse, monitor and keyboard for the server
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| 21:06 | if you're running a fat client, or running your terminal as a localapp, it's a different story
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| 21:40 | <jeremies> ok. thank you
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