IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 8 December 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:23 | <alkisg> vagrantc: is it possible for me to upload newer ltsp releases to e.g. experimental, so that I could then sync to ubuntu from there?
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| 05:55 | <vagrantc> alkisg: if you were a DM, sure
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| 05:56 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ah, there's no way for me to do the work and for you to just say "ok, upload it" somewhere...
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| 05:56 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you could prep the upload, upload to mentors.debian.net, and i could sign and upload to debian, sure.
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I'm wondering about jetpipe not starting in ubuntu, remember it was mistakenly started from init-ltsp.d, and you've fixed it for debian, does the fix also apply to ubuntu?
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| 06:09 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, it's patches applied in the debian packaging
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| 06:09 | but maybe ubuntu isn't using the init script it gets patched into?
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| 06:09 | <alkisg> Probably... but now it's switched to systemd, so I don't know if it will drop the upstart job... stgraber?
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| 06:10 | <vagrantc> upstart? a systemd .service file?
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| 06:10 | would be really good to support native systemd service files, there are some really nice security features that would enable, and probably simplify our codebase greatly.
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| 06:11 | <alkisg> In my 16.04 I have both: /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core /etc/init/ltsp-client-core.conf
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| 06:11 | <vagrantc> i don't know if systemd has backwards compatibility for upstart jobs... definitely for sysvinit
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| 06:12 | <alkisg> Wouldn't it be better to have a /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-service file, so that the sysvinit/upstart/systemd services just called that one?
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| 06:12 | <vagrantc> ideally, we write some functions that can be used by either sysvinit, systemd or upstart...
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| 06:12 | <alkisg> We do have ltsp-client-common-functions for that
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| 06:12 | <vagrantc> yes, we just need to write some glue for the various ways of calling the functions
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| 06:14 | <alkisg> *I meant ltsp-init-common
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| 06:15 | <vagrantc> wonder if this is worth looking into for LTSP https://github.com/linuxfoundation/cii-best-practices-badge/blob/master/doc/criteria.md
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| 06:15 | and our vast developer community ... :)
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| 06:15 | <alkisg> Haha
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| 06:20 | Would anyone mind if we added a "bounties" page in ltsp.org?
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| 06:20 | Where users and developers would mention what new features like to see implemented, and offer/accept some bounties for them?
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| 06:21 | <vagrantc> maybe worth bringing to the list(s) also?
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| 06:21 | <alkisg> E.g. "support gentoo: 200€ - developer: knipwim" and the users could just pay them with paypal, bitcoin etc, simple things with not much overhead
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| 06:22 | True, it's worth it to bring it up to the lists if noone objects here...
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| 06:22 | <vagrantc> i keep hoping snowdrift.coop would actually come online for real, but it's been slow
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| 06:22 | as they have some interesting ideas on how to do these sorts of things
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| 06:23 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I'm thinking to write a small bounties page, then post it to the MLs for comments, and if they don't like it, we can just delete it
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| 06:23 | Is that OK with you guys? sbalneav? stgraber? ogra_? highvoltage? mgariepy?
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| 06:25 | * highvoltage has been way too uninvolved to have a say but it sounds good | |
| 06:25 | <vagrantc> alkisg: sounds feasible
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> Cool, I'll do that today
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| 07:13 | How's this? http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Bounties
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| 07:13 | (feel free to edit it to correct my lousy English)
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| 07:15 | <maldridge> alkisg: getting desperate?
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| 07:16 | and the english is fine, it reads clearly and accurately conveys your intent
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| 07:16 | <alkisg> maldridge: why do you say that? it's one of the most successful open source models, when no companies are involved...
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| 07:16 | <maldridge> "This is an attempt to speed up LTSP development by rewarding the people involved in it. "
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| 07:17 | <alkisg> Yup, LTSP development has stagnated a bit in the recent years
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| 07:17 | <maldridge> it was my understanding that the number involved on the dev side was dwindling
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| 07:19 | <alkisg> True. As usual, if devs have a motivation, they'll work on a project; if not, nope...
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| 07:22 | I don't think any developer is payed to work on ltsp anymore, and it would be a shame to kill the project if users are still interested in it
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| 07:27 | <vagrantc> alkisg: thanks for posting the bounties page ... if nothing else, maybe it'll stir some interest
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| 07:30 | <maldridge> I've been poking at getting ltsp running on void
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| 07:30 | I'm not sure how "ltsp" my setup is, but it works
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| 07:32 | <alkisg> A very big part of LTSP is reporting bugs to other projects that break netbooting. Netbooted setups that don't use LTSP then benefit from that...
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| 07:32 | <maldridge> indeed
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| 07:32 | my distro of choice doesn't netboot by default
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| 07:32 | I think I'm the only guy working on it
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| 07:33 | <alkisg> which distro did you say that is?
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| 07:33 | <maldridge> Void Linux
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| 07:33 | <alkisg> Ah, sorry, I should have realized from the "void" you said above
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| 07:33 | Doesn't overlay work there in recent kernels?
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| 07:33 | <maldridge> np, its a non-obvious name
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| 07:34 | it does, but there's no real process to build out the chroot for void
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| 07:34 | <alkisg> A VM should be fine
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| 07:34 | <maldridge> I don't follow
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| 07:34 | <alkisg> (which reminds me, I should put out a bounty for supporting exposing .vdi files over nbd... :D)
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| 07:34 | You should be able to install void in virtualbox, and then install ltsp-client in it, and then netboot the result
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| 07:35 | <maldridge> interesting, I hadn't thought of that
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| 07:35 | <alkisg> ltsp-build-client isn't a necessary step...
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| 07:35 | <maldridge> void uses a progromatic process to build chroots for building packages, I have been using that to build and update chroots
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| 07:37 | with that, it is 0130 here and I have class in the morning; 'night all
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| 07:37 | <alkisg> Good night!
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| 12:47 | <Matreco> Good day Dear friends someone got the solution to the bug jetpipe not working on Ubuntu trusty/14.04 thank you
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| 13:04 | <Matreco> Hello good day, dear friends someone got the solution to the bug jetpipe not working on Ubuntu trusty/14.04? Thank you
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| 13:05 | <Matrecoo> Hello good day, dear friends someone got the solution to the bug jetpipe not working on Ubuntu trusty/14.04? Thank you
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| 13:08 | <Matrecoo> ok
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| 13:08 | <Matreco> ok
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| 13:14 | <jkinney23> has ltsp source moved from launchpad? link from ltsp.org is not working
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| 13:46 | <pradyu> Hi. I'm new to this.
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| 13:46 | I just need a referrence.
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| 13:46 | to any article which I believe is existing.
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| 14:10 | <work_alkisg> !ltsp-source | echo jkinney23:
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| 14:10 | <ltsp`> jkinney23: ltsp-source: at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files
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| 14:13 | <jkinney23> Awesome...thanks!
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> jkinney23: what link is broken? where in ltsp.org?
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| 14:20 | <jkinney23> hang on...
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| 14:21 | on this page: http://www.ltsp.org/download/
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| 14:21 | this link: https://code.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> It's working for me...
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| 14:22 | Maybe it needs a launchpad account, let me check
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| 14:23 | <alkisg> Nah it's fine, what do you find wrong there?
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| 14:25 | <jkinney23> it's working now...strange
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| 14:25 | I had a page not found error
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> Maybe a server hiccup
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| 14:26 | <jkinney23> must be...thanks for checking it out though
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