IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 December 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:03 | <asda> hello
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| 01:05 | is the LTSP chat still used anyone
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| 01:31 | <vagrantc> asda: sure is
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| 01:31 | !ask | echo asda
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| 01:31 | <ltsp> asda ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 07:13 | <Guest30806> Hey, i have a question about the serevr with tftpd-hpa as the tftp server for LTSP
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| 07:15 | <alkisg> Wow. We didn't answer in 40 secs? Shame on us!
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| 07:22 | * alkisg is learning jquery... apparently it sells more than ltsp :D | |
| 07:22 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 16:33 | <Guest77523> Hi someone there?
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| 16:33 | Just thought about Epoptes
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| 16:33 | Is it possible to hide some of the terminals from the auto-detection?
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| 16:34 | <vagrantc> somewhat
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| 16:35 | if they're ltsp terminals, you can disable the epoptes session starting using RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES, i think
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| 16:35 | but then the user component of the session will still start ... i think technically, individual users can disable epoptes
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| 16:36 | you can also put terminals into groups, but i'm not sure there's a way to further restrict access by group
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| 16:36 | <Guest77523> Hmm, maybe something in lts.conf which has a relation to MAC address or so...
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| 16:37 | We have some terminals in the classrooms which are used by the teachers, would be unnice if
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| 16:37 | the teacher in the lab could watch their screens
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| 16:38 | Where is RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES ?
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| 16:39 | <vagrantc> lts.conf
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| 16:40 | but i'm not sure how to handle the user part, as the user component starts at login
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| 16:43 | <Guest77523> Ok, I could try it at least, would "RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES="epoptes" do?
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| 16:43 | Or does it have to be named somewhat else?
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| 16:44 | The user part - what do you mean?
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| 16:46 | <vagrantc> there are two epoptes processes that run, one that is run on the client as root before the user logs in, and one that is run as the user when the user logs in
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| 16:47 | RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES will handle the root process
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| 16:47 | RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES=epoptes-client ... if i'm remembering correctly
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| 16:47 | <alkisg> Guest77523: epoptes isn't a service
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| 16:47 | <vagrantc> oh
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| 16:47 | <alkisg> So to remove it, you need:
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| 16:47 | INIT_COMMAND_RM_EPOPTES_CLIENT="rm -f /etc/network/if-up.d/epoptes-client"
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| 16:47 | ...check for typos...
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| 16:48 | Hi all btw :D
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| 16:48 | <vagrantc> aha.
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| 16:48 | and the user session part?
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| 16:49 | i guess you could do the same with the .desktop file...
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| 16:49 | <alkisg> That's as you described it, per user
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| 16:49 | Sure, one could use RM_SESSION_SERVICES for fat clients
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| 16:49 | ...which would delete /etc/xdg/autostart/epoptes-client.desktop
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| 16:49 | That wouldn't work for thin clients though
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| 16:49 | <vagrantc> right
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| 16:50 | <Guest77523> I have fat clients
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| 16:50 | So INIT_COMMAND_... in lts.conf?
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| 16:50 | * vagrantc wonders if creating a dummy file in the user's autogenerated XDG_DATA_DIRS would override the system one | |
| 16:50 | <vagrantc> or XDG_SOMETHING_SOMETHING
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> AND RM_SESSION_SERVICES=epoptes-client for the session
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| 16:51 | It should override it, yeah, if someone wanted to work on thin client support more :D
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| 16:51 | <vagrantc> epoptes-client and epoptes-client ... too confusing. :)
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| 16:52 | alkisg: you've over your support quota for the day, probably :P
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| 16:53 | <alkisg> Haha, true :D
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| 17:00 | <Guest77523> ok, to make a start, I try RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES="epoptes-client" in lts.conf under the MAC of one of the terminals
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| 17:00 | I go and boot that terminal...
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| 17:02 | Arggh - and Epoptes doesn't start another time... I have to relogin...
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| 17:04 | Ok, I started 4 terminals, three of them should show up...
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| 17:05 | Yes, there are number 2, 3, 4
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| 17:05 | <alkisg> (07:00:19 μμ) Guest77523: ok, to make a start, I try RM_SYSTEM_SERVICES="epoptes-client" in lts.conf under the MAC of one of the terminals
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| 17:05 | as we said, this does nothing
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| 17:05 | <Guest77523> But number 1 isn't visible, great
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| 17:06 | <alkisg> INIT_COMMAND... for the root epoptes-client, and RM_SESSION_SERVICES... for the session epoptes-client
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| 17:07 | <Guest77523> Ah ok, now I see what you mean. When I log in, number 1 becomes visible
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| 17:08 | and to avoid that, I have to use the INIT_COMMAND thing
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| 17:08 | in lts.conf, too?
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> Yes, both commands in lts.conf
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| 17:09 | <Guest77523> Ok, I try, just hang on
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| 17:11 | Must reboot the terminals...
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| 17:15 | Nope, all 4 terminals become visible again as soon as a user logs in
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| 17:19 | <Guest77523> Anyway, thanks up to here, we should discuss this later... I have to leave.
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