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| 12:07 | <_david_> Hi. I have a question about the SSH config on LTSP, is the SSH default not allowed on the outside interface of the server? Or do I manualy have to block SSH towards the outside eth interface?
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| 12:11 | <johnny> manually yes
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| 12:12 | <johnny> _david_, it's stock ubuntu ssh.. so that's how it is
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| 12:12 | or stock $distro ssh rather
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| 12:14 | <_david_> just to type that in the terminal to se the running config?
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| 12:14 | <johnny> hmm?
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| 12:14 | you have to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
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| 12:15 | <_david_> okey
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| 12:15 | i will give it a try;)
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| 12:15 | <johnny> but.. it's nice to remotely admin servers _david_
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| 12:15 | in case you aren't at the location you can login and fix things
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| 12:15 | <_david_> im at sight
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| 12:15 | <johnny> sure.. until you aren't..
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| 14:07 | <_david_> I have seen through the sshd_config file now and its man-file, I do not find the option there where I cound spesify that SSH should listen to eth0 only. Got any hints?
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| 14:17 | <sbalneav> _david_: listen address
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| 14:17 | ListenAddress <ip_of_eth0>:22
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| 14:18 | <_david_> that simple, thanks:) I misunderstood the ListenAdress option, I thought it was to spesify the adresses of clients allowed to connect:)
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| 14:19 | <sbalneav> ListenAddress Specifies the local addresses sshd(8) should listen on. The following forms may be used:
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| 14:20 | Doesn't mention clients anywhere in there.
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| 14:20 | off for an errand. Good luck.
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| 14:22 | <_david_> thanks:) Im writing a paper on the LTSP, will refer to this forum as it has been to great help
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| 15:16 | <sbalneav> Back, Afternoon all
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| 15:16 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 15:16 | <sbalneav> hey vagrantc
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| 15:24 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: So, I had a nice little session with LaserJock yesterday on packaging,
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| 15:24 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: went well? :)
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| 15:25 | <sbalneav> I know the debian guys still need someone to take over Sabayon. I've got an account on the debian devel server. What's the workflow for me to take over sabayon under debian?
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| 15:34 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: i'd contact the maintainers, ask if they're interested in sponsoring uploads. you can find an overview of the packaging information, including the list of maintainers: http://packages.qa.debian.org/sabayon
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| 15:35 | sbalneav: if they're game, they'd add you to Uploaders, though that doesn't actually give you upload rights, confusingly enough. just makes the tools not think you're doing a non-maintainer upload when you're working on the package.
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| 15:36 | sbalneav: and will also get you a handy page here: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=sbalneav@ltsp.org
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| 15:37 | sbalneav: if they like the work you're doing, eventually you'd probably want to become a debian-maintainer, which will give you upload rights to packages you are listed as a maintainer for...
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| 15:37 | sbalneav: er, listed as an uploader for (as long as that package accepts debian-maintainer uploads) ...
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| 15:37 | sbalneav: got it? :)
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| 15:40 | <sbalneav> Makes sense
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| 15:40 | I think sabayon's actually been dropped in debian.
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| 15:40 | And someone like you could actually use it at freegeek
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| 15:40 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: it's still in experimental
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| 15:40 | <sbalneav> ah, ok
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| 15:40 | good
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| 15:40 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: ah, trying to pull me in too? :)
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| 15:41 | <sbalneav> Nah, I can do it, but i bet it would be useful for you
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| 15:41 | you wouldn't beleive the mail I've been getting from people being so happy sabayon works now
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| 15:41 | <vagrantc> is it generally easy to backport to an older release? that would be necessary for it to be useful in the near future.
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| 15:42 | sbalneav: i'd love to think you get *lots* of mail from happy people :)
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| 15:42 | it would disappoint me were that not the case :)
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| 15:43 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: seems like luca falavigna just uploaded 2.28.1-1 to experimental about a week ago ... is that fairly current?
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| 15:45 | <sbalneav> fairly
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| 15:45 | it'll have a bunch of my patches in it
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| 16:15 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: hrm. non-trivial backport ...
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> What's the issue with a backport
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| 16:35 | besides Xephyr?
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| 16:35 | <Brian_H> anyone know how to force a group on a newly created file on an NFS share?
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| 16:35 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: the current debian packaging will require some build-deps to be backported as well ..
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| 16:36 | sbalneav: don't know if that's any different from the packaging you've been working on
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| 16:36 | sbalneav: but it's not simply "build on stable" type of backport
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| 16:37 | python-gobject-dev seeming to be the main blocker.
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| 16:37 | sbalneav: does it require a recent version of xserver-xephyr?
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| 16:40 | might be possible to just lower the build-dep...
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| 16:53 | <sbalneav> Might be.
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| 16:53 | Brian_H: In a shared directory?
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| 16:53 | Usually by setting the setgid bit on the shared directory.
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| 16:53 | So,
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| 16:54 | if you have a directory, let's say "/home/share"
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| 16:54 | and a group called "share"
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: apparently no...
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| 16:54 | <Brian_H> yes
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| 16:54 | <sbalneav> you can:
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> checking for pygobject 2.15.0 or greater... configure: error:
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| 16:54 | <sbalneav> chgrp share /home/share
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| 16:54 | <Brian_H> so charlie who is in the "everyone" group creates a directory/file and it's owned by charlie:charlie
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| 16:54 | <sbalneav> chmod g+s /home/share
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| 16:55 | chmod 770 /home/share
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| 16:55 | whoops
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| 16:55 | <Brian_H> ok I'll try this :)
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| 16:55 | <sbalneav> sorry, chmod g+w /home/share
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| 16:55 | then anyone who creates a file in /home/share, the file will be group "share" owned
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| 16:57 | <Brian_H> hrm, ok the files are owned by everyone now, but they are read only by the group :(
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| 16:58 | <sbalneav> I don't think we're doing anything fancy with pygobged
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| 16:58 | try bumping it down
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| 17:01 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: bump it down where?
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| 17:01 | ah, in configure.
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| 17:04 | <sbalneav> Yeah. I've got the same problem for hardy.
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| 17:04 | I need to do a backport for that too,
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| 17:07 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: building...
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| 17:08 | <ftherese> what's the best way to setup a cron job for ltsp-update-image?
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| 17:08 | I have tried to set one that fetches the apt updates and then runs an image update
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| 17:09 | but it never seems to get very far on the image creation
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| 17:09 | the temp image gets created, but it is really small
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: compiled fine... no idea if it works.
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| 17:11 | <sbalneav> ftherese: Bad idea.
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| 17:11 | if the cron job fails, you're left with a bunch of dead terminals.
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| 17:13 | <ftherese> ok... I won't do it, I promise... but why is it that it fails?
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| 17:14 | I made a simple script that works when run from the terminal
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| 17:14 | and then have it run as a cron job
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| 17:14 | but the part that never seems to work is the update-image part
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| 17:21 | <sbalneav> does the update image pipe it's output to /dev/null?
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| 17:21 | <sbalneav> because the rebuild generates a lot of characters with the progress bar.
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| 17:22 | they might be filling up the pipe.
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| 17:25 | <ftherese> I suspected that might be it... I think you are probably right
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| 18:28 | <erieslab233> I'm back!
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| 18:28 | been so long haha
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| 18:28 | I am not up to 30 thin clients and I am having performance issues running on that p4 server...
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| 18:29 | I just bought 8 quad core 3.4Mghz 8GB servers for my rack that is to be delivered tomorrow.
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| 18:29 | Does anyone know what a honest reasonable quote in hours would be to cluster them all to one massive machine?
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| 18:30 | I think it must be outsourced, sinvce I will mess it all up real bad
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| 18:33 | anyone?
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| 18:36 | <sbalneav> stgraber would know this, if anyone.
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| 18:37 | heading out for a bit
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| 18:37 | back in a few hours
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| 18:37 | <erieslab233> ok thanks
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| 19:54 | <erieslab233> stgraber are you in yet?
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| 19:55 | If you get in check your PM please. I will see it in just a few more hours if I am not kicked for idle time ;)
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| 19:55 | everyone have a great night
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| 19:59 | <sbalneav> He probably won't be back on until tomorrow morning
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| 20:03 | <erieslab233> sbalneav I am half way through my office remodel I think you might appreciate what I am doing.
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| 20:03 | I will send you photos when done
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| 20:03 | I have 8 23" LCD's along my ceiling on two walls
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| 20:03 | 4 of them have some software displayed you might appreciate ;)
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| 20:04 | watching the screens of my staff as they work on assignments, so I can see where they need help before they call me. :)
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| 20:07 | <sbalneav> Hey scottmaccal
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| 20:07 | You got a jabber account?
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| 20:35 | Man.
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| 20:35 | I dunno what's going on with cdrecording under Karmic, but *THATS* pretty busted too
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| 20:56 | <stgraber> !s
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| 20:56 | <ltspbot> stgraber: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 21:06 | <sbalneav> Evening stgraber
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| 21:06 | laserjock gave me a packaging lesson last night
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| 21:06 | I merged the new tuxpaint.
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| 21:07 | <scottmaccal> sbalneav: yes.
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| 21:09 | <scottmaccal> sbalneav: I am scottmaccal @ jabber.org
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| 21:09 | <sbalneav> k
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| 21:09 | <scottmaccal> you?
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| 21:10 | <sbalneav> sbalneav@jabber.org
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| 21:10 | I've added you
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| 21:10 | hold on, I want to send you a picture...
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| 21:10 | <scottmaccal> k
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| 21:11 | <sbalneav> see me ping you?
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| 21:12 | <scottmaccal> no.
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| 21:12 | heh.
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| 21:12 | <sbalneav> Hm
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| 21:12 | I added you, and said "hola"
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| 21:12 | <scottmaccal> Hmm, what the heck.
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| 21:13 | <sbalneav> BOY I'M SURE GLAD KARMIC MOVED TO THIS HYPER-DEBUGGED AND NOT-AT-ALL FLAKEY PROGRAM CALLED EMPATHY
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| 21:13 | <scottmaccal> exactly
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| 21:13 | I had to look around
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| 21:13 | I found it
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| 21:13 | <mushroomblue> sbalneav: hah.
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| 21:14 | <sbalneav> scottmaccal: Hmm, apparently I can't send a file to you via empathy
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| 21:14 | <scottmaccal> hmm. Let me look at settings.
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| 21:15 | <mushroomblue> sbalneav: Sean Egan is hated enough that people will switch to a different codebase to avoid dealing with him.
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| 21:15 | even if it's buggier
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| 21:16 | "yeah. we understand pidgin is perfectly useable. but we _really_ don't like you."
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| 21:16 | <scottmaccal> I use to love naim back when.
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| 21:17 | <sbalneav> Well, that's all well and good, but it would be nice if the codebase they switched to had things like, oh I dunno...
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| 21:17 | Save conversation
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| 21:17 | pop forward
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| 21:17 | actual configurable options
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| 21:17 | plugin architecture
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| 21:18 | You know...
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| 21:18 | THE MANDITORY THINGS A CHAT CLIENT NEEDS :)
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| 21:19 | <scottmaccal> YEAH!
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| 21:19 | <sbalneav> Sigh
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| 21:19 | I'm getting old and bitter
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| 21:19 | When I retire, I'm going to ditch Graphics altogether.
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| 21:20 | I still have an old text terminal hanging around here
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| 21:20 | I'm gonna put a Linux box in the basement, run a nice serial line upstairs
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| 21:20 | <scottmaccal> So the other day I was installing Karmic on some older PCs (5 years) and an interesting thing happen.
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| 21:20 | <sbalneav> and it's gonna be 9600 baud 80x25 again baby, YEAH!
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| 21:21 | <scottmaccal> Wireless PCI card in complete freeze at gray Ubuntu guy.
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| 21:21 | Wireless PCI card out boot fine.
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| 21:21 | <sbalneav> I already use mutt, vi, and irssi, all I have to do is break this web addiction and go back to lynx. I'm set.
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| 21:22 | <scottmaccal> I would report the bug only I can't begin to think how I am going to document.
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| 21:22 | heh
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| 21:24 | sbalneav: I hear ya. I love the terminal. All I need is my Emacs :-)
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| 21:26 | <sbalneav> Were you there for the classic emacs joke?
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| 21:26 | <scottmaccal> no.
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| 21:26 | <sbalneav> "Emacs is a great operating system! All it needs now is a good editor!"
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| 21:26 | <scottmaccal> lol
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| 21:27 | that's good.
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| 21:27 | <sbalneav> That's an old one.
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| 21:28 | <scottmaccal> Isn't there one about each letter of Emacs?
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| 21:29 | oh my. I just looked at the picture.
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| 21:29 | rofl
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| 21:46 | <scottmaccal> night all.
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| 21:58 | <erieslab233> back to the idle snoring for me, thank you all again
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