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Channel log from 6 August 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:17 | <daya> ogra, I have installed skolelinux 3.0 , still sound is not working ?,
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| 00:18 | ogra, in the choice installation menu I have installed only thin client server, ?
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| 01:14 | <menoz> Hi all, I;m here again.
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| 01:15 | I tried to contact vgrantic but he's not reachable, maybe is in vacation ;)
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| 01:15 | is there someone else who can help me with LTSP, debian etch and usb pens?
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| 01:16 | I get the same behaviour described in this post (even if he's using ubuntu instead)
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| 01:16 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=479555
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| 01:43 | <moquist> monteslu: am now
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| 01:43 | monteslu: but going to bed /now/
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| 02:45 | <klausade> is xserver,x_mode_0, x_horzsync and x_vertrefresh supported in lts.conf in ltsp5, like in ltsp4.2?
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| 03:13 | <menoz> is it normal that `ls /opt/ltsp/i386/dev/sd*` returns "no such file or directory"?
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| 03:35 | <menoz> I've also tried to run "ls /dev/sd*" on the client, but with no success...
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| 03:47 | <ogra> i guess you use the most recent ltspfs packages from debian
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| 03:47 | they patched it to not show local disks by default
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| 03:48 | if LOCALDEV is set to true in your lts.conf, ltspfsd is installed in the client shroot and ltspfs is installed on the server, ldm should provide you usb key support and CDroms at least
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| 03:48 | s/shroot/chroot/
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| 03:52 | <krotaz> hello
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| 03:56 | <netdog> hi
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| 03:57 | <krotaz> hi man can you help me??
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| 04:02 | <krotaz> mmm can anybody help me with a tftp problem??
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| 04:07 | <menoz> ogra: yeah, I've already done everything you wrote
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| 04:07 | the odd thing is that
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| 04:08 | if I put a usb dongle on the server, it works as expected (an icon appears on all the clients); but if I put the usb pen on the client, nothing happens...
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| 04:09 | while CDROM works both on the client and on the server
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| 04:12 | <ogra> menoz, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432024
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| 04:12 | try setting LOCALDEV_FIXEDVISIBLE=True in your lts.conf, probably that helps
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| 04:14 | <menoz> ok, just a minute
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| 04:15 | I have to put it in chroot,right?
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| 04:19 | <valvoja> in ltsp5 how you can give every user right to use USB sticks?
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| 04:21 | <krotaz> hey exp2 still here???
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| 04:21 | <EXP2> yes
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| 04:22 | <krotaz> do you have a ltsp running???
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| 04:22 | <EXP2> yes
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| 04:22 | ubuntu 7.04 and ltsp5
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| 04:22 | <krotaz> can you help me with a tftp problem???
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| 04:22 | <krotaz> much better I'm using the sae distro
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| 04:22 | <EXP2> depends what the problem is
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| 04:23 | <krotaz> tftp open timeout
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| 04:24 | or could you show me the files you've configured???
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| 04:25 | <krotaz> exp2????
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| 04:25 | <EXP_> i second
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| 04:25 | <krotaz> ok
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| 04:29 | <EXP2> you have 2 NIC's in your server?
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| 04:29 | <krotaz> in fact I've 3
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| 04:29 | wireless and 2 ethernet
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| 04:29 | one of the ethernet is disabled in the bios
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| 04:29 | <EXP2> are they all in different networks?
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| 04:30 | <krotaz> the wireless I can't disable it but has no ip (it's not configured )
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| 04:30 | <EXP2> OK
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| 04:30 | <krotaz> the other eth is on the 192.168.0.1
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| 04:31 | the thin client it's not a physical machine it's a vmware server machine with no O.S
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| 04:31 | <EXP2> ok
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| 04:32 | <krotaz> the vmware server is able to boot from PXE so there's suppossed to be no problem
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| 04:33 | <EXP2> http://pastebin.com/d3c3765a7
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| 04:33 | my dhcpd.conf
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| 04:34 | i have modified that a little. I use static IP's on clients
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| 04:34 | <krotaz> your clients aren't PXE capable???
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| 04:35 | ok and you only modified dhcp.conf??
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| 04:37 | <EXP2> yes
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| 04:37 | <krotaz> ok hope this works
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| 04:38 | the .img file is for pxe clients??
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| 04:38 | <EXP2> but you must change your ip address to 192.168.1.1, because i changed it in my dhpcd.conf
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| 04:39 | <krotaz> but in the subnet you have 192.168.1.0 so I've to change to 0.0
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| 04:42 | still the same error :(
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| 04:42 | <matte_> hi
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| 04:43 | <krotaz> hi
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| 04:44 | exp2 your /etc/default/tftpd-hpa is the original one???
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| 04:44 | the same question for your intetd.conf file
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| 04:45 | <EXP2> RUN_DAEMON="no"
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| 04:45 | OPTIONS="-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 04:46 | i have not edited them
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| 04:47 | <menoz> ogre: I tried with LOCALDEV_FIXEDVISIBLE=True but with no success
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| 04:47 | <krotaz> mmm this is strange I'm suppossed to be like you but still the same tftp open timeout error
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| 04:49 | <menoz> ogre: but I got some log from command "lsof /dev/fuse"; would you see it?
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| 04:50 | <krotaz> exp2: did you change permissions to any directory of the opt or var???
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| 04:50 | <EXP2> no
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| 04:50 | <menoz> ogra: I tried with LOCALDEV_FIXEDVISIBLE=True but with no success, but I got some log from command "lsof /dev/fuse"; would you see it?
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| 04:51 | <krotaz> epx2: you foloed this how-to?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 04:51 | <EXP2> yes
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| 04:55 | <krotaz> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
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| 04:56 | /msg NickServ krotaz <test>
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| 04:57 | exp2 do yo know how the check if the tftp server is running???
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| 04:58 | <EXP2> have you tried to remove /opt/ltsp folder and try again sudo ltsp-build-client. my server jammed at first try, but second time it passed all..
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| 04:59 | <krotaz> the fist time I did it it said that every was ok
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| 04:59 | in fact this is te 4th time I try fron scratch
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| 05:00 | <EXP2> OK
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| 05:08 | <krotaz> mmm
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| 05:14 | <krotaz> hey guys anybody know how to test the tftp server???
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| 05:17 | <menoz> krotaz: on this site http://www.emboot.com/faq-pxe.shtml they say:
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| 05:17 | # PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout.
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| 05:17 | TFTP open request was not acknowledged. Verify that the TFTP service is running.
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| 05:17 | but I can't help you more...
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| 05:18 | <krotaz> thanks buddy
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| 05:46 | <tessier_> Hello all!
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| 05:46 | Is FreeNX integrated into LTSP 5?
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| 05:48 | <EXP_> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5Status
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| 05:49 | <ogra> tessier_, not until they make a proper version that doesnt duplicate all of X
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| 06:17 | <daya> ogra, sound still having problem in skoelinux also,
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| 06:18 | ogra, do I have made something worng, I have installed only thin-client-server in the installtation choice menu,
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| 06:34 | <cyrenity> hi al
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| 06:34 | all
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| 06:49 | <matte_> EXP_, i have same problem..
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| 06:49 | USB stick didn't work
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| 06:50 | anyone can help us?
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| 07:04 | <ogra> EXP_, open the user and groups manager, open the users preferences and mark teh checkbox for FUSE filesystems and Thin Client block devices
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| 07:05 | if you create your users with that tool it should be in the defaults for new users
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| 07:06 | <EXP_> ok
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| 07:13 | <matte_> ogra: i already ckeck it
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| 07:13 | check*
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| 07:15 | but usbstick don't work
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| 07:15 | <EXP_> matte_, which version of ltsp are you using?
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| 07:15 | <matte_> cdrom works correctly
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| 07:15 | edubuntu's ltsp
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| 07:18 | <EXP_> what dpkg -l ltspfs|grep ^ii shows?
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| 07:20 | have you read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices ?
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| 07:36 | <menoz> EXP_:yes,we did that. but the real odd problem is that *all* local devices are working, *except* from USB pens
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| 07:36 | and we found this behaviour both on debian etch and on a fresh new Edubuntu installation
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| 07:38 | <EXP_> does floppy drive work?
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| 07:38 | <menoz> we tried 2 different clients (a laptop and a desktop), and on both of them usb isn't working
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| 07:39 | I'm sorry but we cannot have a floppy device
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| 07:39 | we tested CDROM
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| 07:39 | local hdd (mounting windows)
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| 07:40 | and even audio
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| 07:43 | but usb sticks works when attached to the server
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| 07:43 | <EXP_> ok
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| 07:44 | <menoz> (an icon will appear on all the clients)
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| 07:48 | it's weird,because we user a fresh edubuntu installation in witch everything should work appropriately ....
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| 08:25 | <cliebow_> menoz:are those usb sticks partitioned?
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| 08:53 | <JonNoob> I need a little help with getting my Edubuntu Feisty Server integrated with win2003 Active Directory. I am following the Howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto?highlight=%28winbind%29
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| 09:13 | <Blinny> Hi - I'm using 4.2 on K12LTSP. If a user changes resolution on a terminal, logs out, then logs back in, the resolution which the user set is re-activated, instead of the resolution in lts.conf for that MAC/IP/etc -- Where is this stored, and is there a way to ignore the changes on subsequent, post-change logins?
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| 09:21 | <matte_> edubuntu require /etc/hosts and /etc/host.allow edit?
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| 09:36 | <menoz> is it possible to read fuse logs somewhere?
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| 09:41 | <menoz> I mean, sorry, in the edubuntu filesystem.. I cannot find them anywhere, and maybe they have to be activated..
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| 10:03 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 10:09 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 10:09 | I'm having a bit of a problem... :$
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| 10:09 | my users are shutting down the server when they logout ...
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| 10:09 | they are dumb and hit shutdown instead of logout in XDCMP
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| 10:10 | any ideas how to remove the shutdown and reboot buttons?
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| 10:10 | <cliebow_> using kdm or gdm?
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| 10:10 | <MrChicken> gdm
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| 10:11 | <cliebow_> thiss is ubuntu?
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| 10:12 | <MrChicken> yes
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| 10:12 | xubuntu
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| 10:12 | <MrChicken> (XDCMP)
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| 10:13 | <cliebow_> MrChicken, i think pessulus will allow you to edit those menus
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| 10:13 | <MrChicken> uhhhh
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| 10:14 | lemme see
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| 10:15 | <EXP_> try sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type bool --set /apps/gnome-power-manager/can_hibernate false
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| 10:16 | <MrChicken> let me try that
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| 10:16 | <matte_> omg! why not WS mount my usbstick?!?!
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| 10:16 | <cliebow_> is it partitioned?
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| 10:21 | <matte_> y
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| 10:21 | <MrChicken> didnt work
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| 10:21 | none
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| 10:21 | neither pessulus
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| 10:21 | nor gconf2
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| 10:22 | <cliebow_> posting from edubuntu
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| 10:22 | <moquist> menoz: If you enable local logins on the TCs, you can switch to TTY1 and watch /etc/fstab and logs in /var/log (IIRC) to see what's going on.
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> Yes, I'd start there first.
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> chroot /optl/ltsp/i386
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| 10:22 | <ogra> smells like a broken partition table on the sticks ...
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| 10:22 | * moquist should just let menoz continue, but couldn't resist posting the above in case it's the Right Answer
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| 10:22 | <menoz> nothing gets logged when I attach the usb dongle on the client
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> set a root password.
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> then control-alt-f1
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> log in as root
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| 10:22 | <cliebow_> mpquist:yessir Matt..Im a fishjing for the answer too 8~)
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> then check with dmesg, see if the clien't seeing the plug event.
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| 10:22 | <menoz> ogra: if I attach the stick in the server, clients can read/write them. And I tried bot vfat and ext3 formatted sticks
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| 10:24 | <moquist> That's not bad, especially if we clearly document how to open it up.
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| 10:24 | heh; wrong window
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| 10:30 | <MrChicken> Hello. I am running XUBUNTU, but I need to prevent non-admin users to shutdown the system. Can anybody help me?
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| 10:36 | <exodos> MrChicken: are you using gdm?
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| 10:37 | <MrChicken> yes
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| 10:37 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: where is it that they are allowed to shut down the system ?
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| 10:38 | and do you mean shut down the server ?
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| 10:38 | <MrChicken> Yes
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> MrChicken: where is it that they are allowed to shut down the system ?
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| 10:38 | <MrChicken> vagrantc.... when they click on logout
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| 10:38 | it says
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| 10:38 | Switch user
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| 10:38 | Log out
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| 10:38 | Restart
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| 10:39 | Shut Down
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| 10:39 | <vagrantc> you'll need to look in xfce configuration, if you're using xubuntu.
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| 10:39 | it's probably also something that should be considered a bug, i know it was fixed in gnome for ubuntu.
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| 10:45 | <exodos> MrChicken: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/47834
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| 11:19 | <Blinny> Hi - I'm using 4.2 on K12LTSP. If a user changes resolution on a terminal, logs out, then logs back in, the resolution which the user set is re-activated, instead of the resolution in lts.conf for that MAC/IP/etc -- Where is this stored, and is there a way to ignore the changes on subsequent, post-change logins?
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| 11:24 | <sbalneav> Blinny: are you running gnome?
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| 11:24 | <daya> vagrantc, hi
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| 11:25 | vagrantc, what wrong mistake did I commit , I don't even have sound in skoelinux as well as in the debian, that I did by following the step in the wiki,
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| 11:27 | <vagrantc> daya: maybe sound isn't autodetected on your hardware
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| 11:28 | <daya> vagrantc, no how it can be , I have done it in edubuntu,
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> daya: it is not edubuntu.
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| 11:28 | <Blinny> sbalneav: Yes, I am.
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| 11:28 | (And only gnome)
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> daya: so it is different, and maybe doesn't work the same.
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| 11:28 | <daya> vagrantc, then any suggestion,
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| 11:29 | <sbalneav> ok, well, gnome resets the display after you log in, so there's not much you can do about disabling it from ltsp side of things.
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| 11:29 | <Blinny> But where does it store that user-specific information?
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| 11:29 | <sbalneav> There's a key in the gconf database that sets the resolution, you can search through the users' gconf, and delete that key, and things should stay the way they are.
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| 11:29 | <Blinny> Ah, gotchya.
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| 11:29 | <sbalneav> in gconf.
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| 11:29 | <Blinny> Maybe I can wrote a logout script that does that.
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| 11:30 | <sbalneav> That would work.
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| 11:30 | <vagrantc> daya: what do you have installed right now ?
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| 11:30 | <Blinny> It's messing up NX stuff too - remote users are coming in at higher resolutions, then only seeing small windows of the real desktop (ala virtual resolutions of the past)
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| 11:31 | <daya> vagrantc, I am now in my apartment, I have installed skoelinux, and debian both,
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| 11:31 | <vagrantc> daya: what do you mean both ?
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| 11:32 | <daya> vagrantc, I can't access these machine, but please suggest me so that I can follow the steps, tommorrow morning
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| 11:32 | I mean in different system for checking,
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| 11:33 | <vagrantc> daya: please ask again when you have access to the machines. it's almost impossible to make suggestions without having access to them.
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| 11:33 | <daya> vagrantc, I can't get u when I have access to these machine,
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| 11:34 | <sbalneav> Why not?
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| 11:34 | <vagrantc> daya: well, i can't help you then.
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| 11:34 | <daya> vagrantc, simply in skoelinux I have only installed thin-client-server, do I need other,
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| 11:34 | such as server,
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| 11:34 | <vagrantc> ask debian-edu questions in the debian-edu channel on irc.debian.org
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| 11:35 | <daya> vagrantc, by following the step in the wiki, I can't have access over the ldm,
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| 11:35 | in client
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| 11:35 | <Blinny> Thanks sbalneav
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| 11:35 | <sbalneav> NP
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| 11:35 | <vagrantc> daya: you can't log in at all, or you can't get sound ?
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| 11:35 | <daya> vagrantc, I can't login, since the login prompt is not even presented,
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| 11:36 | <vagrantc> daya: so, what is presented ?
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| 11:37 | <daya> vagrantc, ha ha, I mean gui, only text mode , login is presented,
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| 11:37 | <vagrantc> daya: could you post /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf somewhere to look at ?
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| 11:38 | daya: what version of skolelinux do you have installed ?
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| 11:38 | <daya> vagrantc, there is no lts.conf by default, isn't it?
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| 11:38 | <vagrantc> daya: what version of skolelinux do you have installed ?
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| 11:39 | <daya> vagrantc, sorry for misconception, I am now talking about ltsp 5.0 , in debian by following the step that u described by configuring pulse audio, in the wiki,
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| 11:40 | <vagrantc> daya: what is your thin-client hardware ?
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| 11:40 | <daya> vagrantc, Intel 945, motherboard,
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| 11:41 | <vagrantc> daya: what processor, what video card, what sound card ?
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| 12:02 | <monteslu> moquist, you awake?
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| 12:16 | <yeipi> Hi guys :)
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| 12:17 | I got a question: is there a way to run ltsp 5 with 16 mb ram? I mean build an special kernel for the ltsp terminals (to reduce the space and to get those clients boot the kernel)
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| 12:18 | <vagrantc> yeipi: the short answer is "no". the long answer is "of course".
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| 12:19 | main thing is getting network swap to kick in early enough.
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| 12:20 | <sbalneav> yeipi asked this of my a week or two ago.
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| 12:20 | <yeipi> yep
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| 12:20 | <sbalneav> it segfaults out while downloading the initramfs.
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| 12:21 | currently, kernel + initramfs + allocated memory is > 16 megs.
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| 12:21 | <vagrantc> yeah, probably had to do with an initramfs ... especially now that more and more is being pushed into the initramfs
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| 12:21 | <monteslu> did ltsp4 had smaller requirements?
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| 12:21 | <yeipi> yep, sbalneav was on help me, but he is too busy under ldm for ubuntu. That's why I'm asking others.
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| 12:22 | monteslu: yep
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| 12:23 | but one of the things I want is that those terminals get support for local devices...
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| 12:23 | and I think with ltsp 4.2 I won't get that.
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| 12:23 | <sbalneav> In 16 megs it will be kind of hard.
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| 12:23 | <monteslu> its in there, ain't it sbalneav ?
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| 12:24 | <sbalneav> Yes, but getting local devs going under 4.2 will require more memory as well. And, there hasn't been an update for the server side bits of 4.2 for a year now, so they probably won't work with newer distros.
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| 12:25 | <monteslu> man, redhat really needs to put some work into integrating muekow , then
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| 12:25 | <monteslu> I'm kinda stuck on 4.2 for now
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| 12:26 | <yeipi> sbalneav: I don't understand what I have to do. We're pretty limitated in resources for buying lts of memories for these clients.
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| 12:26 | <monteslu> unless I switch to edubuntu this week
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| 12:27 | <cliebow_> go for it !!! 8~)
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| 12:27 | <vagrantc> yeipi: 24-32MB will probably work.
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| 12:27 | <yeipi> I want to now if there a possibility to explore to get local devices with 16.
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| 12:27 | <vagrantc> yeipi: 16 is going to be *very* difficult.
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| 12:27 | <monteslu> been using redhat/fedora at the school for so long now, kinda scared to make the leap
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| 12:27 | kids have probably heard more about ubuntu though :)
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| 12:27 | <yeipi> ok vagrantc. I think I'll have to convince the people here that's inevitable not to buy ram.
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| 12:28 | <cliebow_> sbalneav:seems to be rocking now huh?
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| 12:28 | <sbalneav> 16's just SO tight.
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| 12:28 | there's just no room for anything extra.
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| 12:28 | <monteslu> the ubuntu muekow docs seem a little out of date
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| 12:28 | and I'm going to need two + and smbldap server
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| 12:28 | <sbalneav> on 4.2, it just BARELY worked. But the kernel's gotten bigger since then.
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| 12:29 | cliebow_: Yeah, working now.
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| 12:29 | <cliebow_> 8~
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| 12:29 | )
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| 12:29 | <sbalneav> yeipi: How many machines are we talking about?
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| 12:33 | <yeipi> sbalneav: about 2000 servers
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| 12:33 | each server with at least 4 clients
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| 12:34 | <monteslu> good lord
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| 12:34 | <yeipi> I think what we'll try is downgrading ltsp 5 to 4.2 on edubuntu
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| 12:34 | <monteslu> and here I thought my 70-client install was big :)
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| 12:34 | <yeipi> jeje
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| 12:34 | monteslu: 2000 schools in Chile
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| 12:35 | <monteslu> I'm only responsible for the technology of one in the US :)
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| 12:36 | <yeipi> the clients are pretty limitated :/
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| 12:37 | well Thanks anyway guys. Im gonna try to downgrade ltsp.
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| 12:37 | <monteslu> good luck
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| 12:39 | <sbalneav> Hmm, I'm going to try 16m now
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| 12:40 | Well, I confirm it dies with 16m
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| 12:41 | <yeipi> hehe me too :P
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| 12:41 | <monteslu> I had clients locking up with 32 on ltsp4
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| 12:41 | most of them have 128 now
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| 12:41 | <yeipi> thanks sbalneav!
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| 12:41 | <monteslu> stuff from disklessworkstations and devonit replaced all my junk beige boxes
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| 12:42 | <sbalneav> It's booting with 24 megs
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| 12:43 | <monteslu> x startup?
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| 12:43 | <sbalneav> Slowly, but starting
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| 12:46 | <cliebow_> myu 32 meg clients still rock in 32 meg
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| 12:47 | 4,2 that is\
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| 12:47 | <staffencasa> quick question, do I need to rebuild client (ltsp-build-client) if I want to use a screensaver?
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| 12:48 | <vagrantc> staffencasa: no
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| 12:48 | <staffencasa> does it just use the screensaver the server uses? How do I set it up?
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| 12:48 | <vagrantc> unless you're not doing thin-clients
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| 12:49 | <staffencasa> I am
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| 12:49 | <vagrantc> install it on the server.
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| 12:49 | <staffencasa> that's it?
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| 12:49 | <vagrantc> that's all you have to do as far as LTSP is concerned
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| 12:49 | you might have to configure it to start up on login or something
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| 12:50 | <staffencasa> right.
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| 12:51 | <vagrantc> with the thin-client model, all your thin clients really are are extra monitors, mice and keyboards for your server, basically.
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| 12:51 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: ok, I updated /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to the "netboot" option for modules.
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| 12:51 | How do I re-configure the initramfs?
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| 12:52 | update-initramfs -u seems to generate a same-sized initramfs
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| 12:52 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: you sure there wasn't a file already enabling thatin /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d ?
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| 12:52 | <sbalneav> errr
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| 12:52 | :)
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| 12:52 | lemme see
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| 12:53 | no
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| 12:53 | <vagrantc> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d ?
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| 12:53 | <sbalneav> ah
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| 12:53 | yes.
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| 12:54 | <vagrantc> so that won't probably save you much
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| 12:54 | <sbalneav> well, there's still fs libraries there.
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| 12:54 | things like xfs, ext2 ext3, etc modules are included
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| 12:54 | <vagrantc> as a quick and dirty workaround, you could write a hook that manually removes them
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| 12:55 | <sbalneav> k, could do.
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| 12:55 | Just seeing if there's anything I can do for yeipi
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| 13:50 | <krotaz> hi again, can any body tell me how to know if the tftp-hpa is running as a daemon or by the inetd.conf??
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| 14:06 | <oogabooga> hmm'
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| 14:17 | <oogabooga> ok..i give up...so how come i have an xubuntu splash on the term???
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| 14:21 | <Q-FUNK> I'm not even sure if anything else than ubuntu (gnome) is supported in edubuntu.
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| 14:28 | <JonNoob> Does edubuntu use ltsp or k12ltsp?
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| 14:30 | <vagrantc> edubuntu uses LTSP 5 ... k12ltsp uses LTSP 4.x
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| 14:31 | <JonNoob> Thanks
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| 14:32 | hi guys. Need a little assistance... I have a Edubuntu Feisty Server AMD64. I am using thin client in amixed 100Mbit/Gigabit environment. The problem is my client only will boot sometimes. It seems the problem is NFS whichuses UDP protocol. I found a solution to change it to use TCP protocol, but they want me to chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /bin/bash --login and then cd /etc/mkinitramfs/.... The problem is that there is no directory called thath(mkinitramfs)
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| 14:33 | The solution is described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/TroubleShooting
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| 14:55 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: hey, sitting here with a thin can in my hands.
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| 14:55 | just gotta find a power supply for it
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| 14:55 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: lovely :)
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| 14:56 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: It says it needs 9v. Is that exact, or is there a range.
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| 14:56 | <Q-FUNK> 9 to 16v
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| 14:56 | <sbalneav> Ah, perfect
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| 14:56 | <Q-FUNK> an average 12v should do
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| 14:56 | just make sure you have the polarity right
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| 14:57 | <vagrantc> JonNoob: /etc/mkinitramfs is now /etc/initramfs-tools
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| 14:57 | JonNoob: but i suspect those instructions are very old
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| 14:58 | JonNoob: TCP is default for quite some time now.
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| 14:58 | <JonNoob> checking
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| 14:58 | <vagrantc> as long as i can remember.
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| 14:58 | i think as long as LTSP muekow existed
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| 14:58 | <JonNoob> it is!! But it is the same problem in openSuse 10.04 But is that totally different?
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| 14:58 | <vagrantc> oh
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| 14:58 | no idea
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| 14:58 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: the key trick is the old rule: V x A = W
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| 14:58 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 14:58 | <vagrantc> JonNoob: how did you install on opensuse ?
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| 14:59 | <sbalneav> Got it going
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| 14:59 | Now I just need to make it boot.
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| 14:59 | hanging after the loading nbi.img
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| 15:00 | <JonNoob> had another tech do it for me.. very expensive :-(
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| 15:01 | <JonNoob> I have a noob question... how do I exit vi?
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| 15:02 | <sbalneav> JonNoob: With a save, or without?
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| 15:02 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: even after switching the script to use mkelfimage?
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| 15:02 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: I'm working on that now :)
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| 15:02 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: I cannot remember, did I send you the script fragment i use for this?
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| 15:03 | <sbalneav> no, if you could paste it to the pastebot, I'd be appreciative :)
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| 15:03 | <Q-FUNK> sure, just a sec
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| 15:04 | whichone of our bots is the paste one?
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| 15:04 | <oogabooga> sbalneav:so yours is rocking?
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| 15:04 | <staffencasa> !pastebot
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| 15:04 | <ltspbot`> staffencasa: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 15:04 | <sbalneav> !pastebot
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| 15:04 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 15:04 | <sbalneav> lol
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| 15:04 | <staffencasa> beat ya :)
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| 15:04 | <sbalneav> oogabooga: which, the thin can?
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| 15:05 | <oogabooga> sbalneav:it is i leclerc..err cliebow
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| 15:05 | <JonNoob_> I was disconnected
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| 15:05 | <sbalneav> Oh, you mean the ltsp-build-client.
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| 15:05 | <oogabooga> yeah..
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| 15:05 | <sbalneav> yes, works now.
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| 15:05 | For me, anywho
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| 15:05 | <oogabooga> i am seeing xubuntu splash on my client
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| 15:05 | <JonNoob_> How do I exit vi without save?
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| 15:05 | <sbalneav> You've installed xubuntu artwork.
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| 15:05 | <oogabooga> and ubuntu splash on server???
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| 15:06 | <sbalneav> JonNoob_: :q!
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| 15:06 | <oogabooga> but but..i thought i'd see ldm
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| 15:06 | <sbalneav> Otherwise known as "q-bang", or "Quit, dammit!"
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| 15:06 | <oogabooga> unless..you have snuck in summat new
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| 15:06 | <sbalneav> Well, you should see ldm
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| 15:07 | ldm isn't the splash
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| 15:07 | <oogabooga> so is xubuntu-artwork built into the image?
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| 15:07 | <sbalneav> no
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| 15:07 | <Q-FUNK> who wants to bang me, now? is she cute?
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| 15:07 | <JonNoob_> How do i add text to a file with vi? and exit and save?
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| 15:08 | <sbalneav> You've installed it somehow
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| 15:08 | <Q-FUNK> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/252
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| 15:08 | <sbalneav> JonNoob_: ever used vi before?
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| 15:08 | <JonNoob_> never... Sorry i am a total noob
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| 15:08 | <oogabooga> it looks real nice...nonetheless..all i did was run ltsp-build-client..
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| 15:10 | <oogabooga> JonNoob, vim..i to insert text..esc to leave insert mode ctrl-wq to write and quit
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| 15:11 | <JonNoob_> thanks
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| 15:11 | <sbalneav> Either that, or use something like pico
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| 15:11 | <oogabooga> sbalneav so you've added..select language..select session..select host ..reboot..shutdown
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| 15:11 | <sbalneav> which is like "edit" under dos.
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| 15:12 | <sbalneav> fgiraldeau's working on the host bit.
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| 15:12 | I've merged some of his stuff this morning.
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| 15:12 | <oogabooga> only prob i really have is on logout doews not return to login screen
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| 15:12 | <sbalneav> hm
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| 15:13 | I had a problem I fixed last night.
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| 15:13 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: http://pastebot.ltsp.org/252
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| 15:13 | <oogabooga> lemme try it once more
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| 15:13 | <Q-FUNK> s/pico/r/nano
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| 15:13 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: got it, I'm playing now
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| 15:13 | <sbalneav> er pico, nano, femto
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| 15:13 | <sbalneav> Soemthing small
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| 15:13 | :)
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| 15:14 | <oogabooga> and if i screw yup login ..does not return to username
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| 15:14 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 15:14 | <JonNoob_> i use nano normally, but it is not available in chroot
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| 15:14 | <sbalneav> JonNoob_: You can always install it.
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| 15:14 | <oogabooga> errp..there it went back to usernbame
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| 15:15 | <JonNoob_> are you sure about ctrl-wq? I can't get it to work
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| 15:15 | <sbalneav> :wq
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| 15:15 | <oogabooga> heh
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| 15:15 | what Scott says
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| 15:16 | <JonNoob_> that was better.. Thanks for helping a noob :-)
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| 15:16 | <oogabooga> Q-FUNK, how big is your elf image?
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| 15:17 | <oogabooga> i wonder if my netyvistas would buy that..
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| 15:18 | <Q-FUNK> oogabooga: it's just a tool that replaces mkelf-linux, for thin clients based on linuxbios.
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| 15:19 | <oogabooga> ok
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| 15:19 | <JonNoob_> another noob question... How do I exit chroot correctly?
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| 15:19 | <oogabooga> exit
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| 15:20 | <JonNoob_> thanks
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| 15:20 | <oogabooga> 8~)
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| 15:23 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: OK, got it booting. Just need to sort out X. I think the driver that was needed was nsc, correct?
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| 15:24 | Cute little box. Performance seems pretty good.
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| 15:24 | <Q-FUNK> amd
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| 15:25 | nsc was for older geode stuff
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| 15:27 | <sbalneav> Hmm, just need to install it in the chroot.
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| 15:27 | <Q-FUNK> -amd is not in Depends for -all yet, so not automaticaly pulled in. bryce promised to get around adding it this week.
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| 15:30 | <sbalneav> Just out of curiosity, why no power switch?
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| 15:30 | <Q-FUNK> because any movable part easily breaks over time and because this eats so little current that it's not worth shutting down.
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| 15:31 | <sbalneav> Makes sense.
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| 15:31 | And one can always reboot with alt-sysrq-b
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| 15:32 | Hmm, I get "aborted" on the screen.
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| 15:32 | lets seeee......
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| 15:32 | <Q-FUNK> what i like best is how quickly this boots under linuxbios
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| 15:32 | which mkelfimage version?
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| 15:32 | or where did the aborted show up?
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| 15:33 | <oogabooga> laterrr
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| 15:33 | <sbalneav> When trying to start x
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| 15:33 | <Q-FUNK> ah, probably because of failed X detection
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| 15:33 | <JonNoob_> tried that solution but it didn't help. Do you have any solution when thin clients hangs on boot? it is at the Edubuntu screen with the progress bar. When I alt-f1 it keeps getting the correct ip-settings, but says rpc failed: 2
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| 15:33 | <sbalneav> Hmm
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| 15:33 | <Q-FUNK> but vesa should at least work
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| 15:33 | <sbalneav> I've got XSERVER=amd
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| 15:34 | <Q-FUNK> and ddc detected correct resolutions?
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| 15:34 | <sbalneav> Dunno, can't seem to log in under text :)
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| 15:34 | What did I do wrong...
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| 15:35 | <Q-FUNK> usb hid loaded?
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| 15:35 | <sbalneav> Should be, I can type...
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| 15:35 | <Q-FUNK> oh wait, isn't login disabled by default in the chroot?
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| 15:35 | <sbalneav> heh, I set a password
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| 15:41 | <Q-FUNK> odd
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| 15:44 | <sbalneav> So, you're in Estonia?
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| 15:45 | <JonNoob_> Help
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| 15:45 | I messed up... How do i undo my changes?
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| 15:46 | <sbalneav> Well, you take the .bak file you copied before you started editing, and just replace the file you edited.
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| 15:46 | <JonNoob_> How do i undo this command(What does it do?) mkinitramfs -o /boot
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| 15:47 | <sbalneav> update-initramfs -i
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| 15:47 | update-initramfs -u
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| 15:47 | sorry
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| 15:47 | <JonNoob_> How do i undo this command(What does it do?) mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-23-386-tcp 2.6.20-23-386
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| 15:48 | Is that undone with update-initramfs -u? But what does mkinitramfs do???
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| 15:49 | <sbalneav> Should be
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| 15:49 | Do it within the chroot
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| 15:49 | <JonNoob_> sure
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| 15:49 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: Finland, actually, but the company is in Estonia. Then again, this is just 80km away from here..
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| 15:50 | <sbalneav> Ah, one of our good friends here in ltsp is in Norway. Ragnar Wisloff
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| 15:51 | I keep hoping Ubuntu will have a conference somewhere in that area of the world.
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| 15:51 | <JonNoob_> How do i undo this command? ln -sf initrd.img-2.6.20-23-286-tcp initrd.img
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| 15:52 | ln links two files, right?
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| 15:52 | <sbalneav> ln -sf something-else initrd.img
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| 15:52 | <JonNoob_> ok
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| 15:53 | Ahhh... now im back to normal again....
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| 15:53 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: ah yes, the skolelinux guys
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| 15:55 | <JonNoob_> haven't you ever had the problem with thin clients hanging on pxe boot before?
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| 15:58 | <sbalneav> Have you got nfs-kernel-server running on the server?
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| 15:58 | <JonNoob_> How do I check that?
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| 16:00 | never mind. just did a sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start
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| 16:00 | <sbalneav> Have you also got portmap running?
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| 16:01 | <JonNoob_> it is up and running but client still hangs....
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| 16:01 | <sbalneav> As well, what kind of hub/switch do you have? Is it blocking udp?
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| 16:01 | Lots of managed switches sometimes come configured with udb blocking in place.
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| 16:02 | <JonNoob_> it is a HP procurve 1800-24g
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| 16:02 | i will check it
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| 16:02 | * vagrantc has been having pxe related troubles with intel PXE implementations recently | |
| 16:03 | <JonNoob_> But if it blocks udp then my clients would never work. But sometimes(rarely) they boot anyway
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| 16:04 | <Q-FUNK> vagrantc: oh the irony, given how they came up with the specs. then again, etherboot.org does point out that intel does odd things which soemone might not want enabled.
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| 16:05 | <sbalneav> Why don't you try subbing in a "dumb" switch temporarily, to eliminate that possibility
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| 16:05 | <vagrantc> it works on one network, but not another network... which is why i suspect the switch. but the dhcp server on the broken network is also running inside a xen instance ... which does some weird firewalling stuff ...
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| 16:06 | <JonNoob_> Actually i just tried that. We have some old 10/100 3com switches to. And they do the same....
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| 16:06 | <vagrantc> it appears to be trying to get to udp/4011 ... which is the port for the PXE daemon ... though most PXE implementations merely use tftp and dhcp ...
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| 16:07 | JonNoob_: what's your error message ?
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| 16:07 | <JonNoob_> I just realized that i am an total idiot.....
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| 16:08 | <JonNoob_> I gave my server the same ip as my managed old switches..... Ohh man...
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| 16:08 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 16:08 | that'll do some damage
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| 16:08 | <JonNoob_> And this problem has been haunting me for 3 weeks now....
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| 16:11 | <Q-FUNK> doh! :)
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| 16:12 | <JonNoob_> sometimes you look at the problems in the completely wrong angle and miss the "small" obvious things
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| 16:12 | :'(
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| 16:14 | <Q-FUNK> aww, don't be so hard on yourself. you spotted it. that's what matters :)
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| 16:20 | <JonNoob_> well i might have spotted it, but it didn't solve the problem.... It still hangs..
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| 16:40 | <krotaz> /msg NickServ
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| 17:07 | <krotaz> any body knows about a tftp-hpa irc channel???
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| 17:08 | <sbalneav> krotaz: Don't think there is one.
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| 17:08 | Need some help?
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| 17:09 | <krotaz> yes
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| 17:09 | can you help me??
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| 17:10 | <sbalneav> I can't until you ask the question :)
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| 17:10 | <krotaz> jejeje
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| 17:11 | I'm tryin to install LTSP 5 on ubuntu 7.04
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| 17:11 | I've followed the official how to that just installs ltsp-server-standolone and openssh-server
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| 17:11 | and then create ltsp-client
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| 17:12 | after that I try to load the thin client from the network, the dhcp works fine but then a TFTP open timeout error appears
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| 17:12 | <sbalneav> How many ethernet cards does your server have?
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| 17:13 | <krotaz> 3 2 eth and a wireless
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| 17:13 | one of the 2 eth is disabled
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| 17:13 | <krotaz> and the wireless isn't recognized by linux
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| 17:13 | <sbalneav> Which ones are the terminals connected to?
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| 17:14 | <krotaz> the terminal is a vmware machine
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| 17:14 | <sbalneav> ah
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| 17:14 | can't help you then.
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| 17:14 | I don't know anything about vmware.
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| 17:14 | <krotaz> no problem
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| 17:14 | I just want to know why the tftp doesn't run
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| 17:15 | <sbalneav> netstat -an | grep :69
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| 17:15 | <krotaz> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
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| 17:15 | <sbalneav> Your tftp server's running fine.
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| 17:16 | <krotaz> it's supposed that after the * I must see a PID/process isn't it??
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| 17:16 | <sbalneav> Did you do an ltsp-update-kernels
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| 17:16 | no
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| 17:16 | only if you did a netstat -anp
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| 17:17 | <staffencasa> could someone point me in the right direction? vagrantc said that the clients would pull the screensaver from the server, but mine are not. I built my client with --kiosk, so I'm not sure if that changes anything. I'm running Edubuntu 7.04
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| 17:17 | <krotaz> yes but if I put -apn instead of that PID/process I get a -
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| 17:17 | still ok the server???
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| 17:18 | <sbalneav> something's listening on :69
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| 17:18 | <krotaz> that's right but it seems to be that's it's not the tftp
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| 17:18 | the server must run by the inetd.conf?? or like a daemon???
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| 17:19 | <sbalneav> have you tried tftping to localhost?
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| 17:19 | <krotaz> yes and no answer
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| 17:19 | Error code 1: File not found
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| 17:19 | <sbalneav> So, on the server, you did a tftp localhost
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| 17:20 | <krotaz> yes
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| 17:21 | by the way the vmware machine is connected to the eth0 (sorry I just remembered your question)
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| 17:21 | and the vmware can see the server because it get's the IP from the dhcp
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| 17:21 | <sbalneav> Is the server running under vmware?
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| 17:21 | <krotaz> no
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| 17:21 | <krotaz> only the thin client
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| 17:21 | <sbalneav> So you've installed vmware on an edubuntu machine/
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| 17:21 | ?
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| 17:22 | <krotaz> vmware on ubuntu
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| 17:22 | the server is native the vmware is a non-os machine
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| 17:22 | <sbalneav> So, you're on the edubuntu machine, you open a terminal, and you type "tftp localhost"
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| 17:22 | what happens
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| 17:22 | <krotaz> prompts tftp>
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| 17:23 | <sbalneav> get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 17:23 | <sbalneav> What does it say
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| 17:23 | <krotaz> but does the same if I try tftp to 192.168.0.100 (the ip of my linksys) and to 192.168.1.254 (the ip of my adsl modem) and they do not have tftp servers
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| 17:24 | <sbalneav> What does it say if you type that command.
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| 17:24 | <krotaz> Error code 1: File not found
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| 17:25 | <sbalneav> have you done an ltsp-update-kernels?
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| 17:25 | <krotaz> no should I
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| 17:25 | <sbalneav> If you want kernels to boot, yes.
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| 17:26 | <krotaz> ok so the instruction is
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| 17:26 | sudo ltsp-update-kernels
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| 17:26 | Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 17:26 | that's the answer
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| 17:27 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 17:27 | try your boot now
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| 17:27 | <krotaz> the tftp server must be controlled by the inetd.conf??? or like daemon???
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| 17:28 | <sbalneav> Normally it's started by inetd.conf
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| 17:29 | <krotaz> do you know how to restart inetd.conf??
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| 17:29 | <sbalneav> invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
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| 17:29 | <krotaz> ok let me try to boot
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| 17:34 | <krotaz> sbalneav
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| 17:34 | the same thing
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| 17:35 | TFTP open timeout
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| 17:35 | <sbalneav> ok, well, try the tftp localhost on the server
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| 17:35 | get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 17:35 | see if you can get that file
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| 17:36 | <krotaz> no error message :)
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| 17:36 | ok let me check the dhcp conf
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| 17:37 | <sbalneav> does it say it retreived the file?
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| 17:37 | if so, then your tftp server's working
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| 17:37 | <staffencasa> When I was getting that error, I did a sudo apt-get remove ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server, then sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server and then a sudo invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server restart
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| 17:37 | <krotaz> no it's didnt said that it retreived the file
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| 17:38 | <staffencasa> basically reinstalled
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| 17:38 | <krotaz> ok thanks staff
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| 17:38 | svalneav
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| 17:38 | <staffencasa> yeah, no guarantees, though, I'm a n00b :)
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| 17:39 | <krotaz> it didn't said that it retreived the file
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| 17:39 | but if I remove the file and again do a get it worked
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| 17:42 | <sbalneav> Well, your tftp server's working.
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| 17:42 | <krotaz> but still can't boot
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| 17:42 | <sbalneav> So, it's either your dhcpd.conf, or the vmware box.
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| 17:42 | <krotaz> :S
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| 17:42 | ok
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| 17:42 | <sbalneav> What's the ip address of the edubuntu box?
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| 17:43 | And there's no other dhcp server running on that network?
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| 17:43 | <krotaz> when I tftp the local host wich directory am I connecting???
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| 17:43 | the var or opt???
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| 17:43 | <sbalneav> /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 17:45 | <krotaz> my ip is 192.168.0.1
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| 17:45 | <sbalneav> You said you had a network router on this network?
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| 17:46 | Does it hand out dhcp addresses
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| 17:46 | <krotaz> yes a linksys
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| 17:46 | no
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| 17:46 | the only dchp is my ubuntu boz
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| 17:46 | box
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| 17:47 | if the vmware machine is getting the right ip from the dhcp then the vmware is ok
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| 17:47 | but still tftp error
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| 17:47 | so the only problem here still is the dhcp.conf file am I ok???
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| 17:47 | <sbalneav> Try it with a real machine.
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| 17:48 | I have no idea if the vmware box does a tftp correctly
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| 17:49 | <krotaz> unfortunely I don't have nother machine that's the reason I'm using vmware but I've seen a page in novell official site where they tested ltsp on a vmware
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| 17:49 | just as I'm doing it
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| 17:49 | <sbalneav> Well, all I know is, you've got a running tftp server
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| 17:50 | <krotaz> that's righ
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| 17:50 | thanks man
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| 17:50 | I owe you one
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| 17:52 | should the dhcp.conf file have the next-server liine??
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| 17:52 | <sbalneav> It's not supposed to, but you can try.
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| 17:53 | invoke-rc.d dhcp-server restart to reload dhcp after the change
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| 17:54 | <krotaz> well in ubuntu is sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart but must be the same
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| 17:55 | <sbalneav> sorry, forgot the 3
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| 17:58 | <krotaz> the dhcp.conf in the option rooth-path must point to???
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| 17:59 | opt??
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| 17:59 | <sbalneav> It's already set up
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| 17:59 | /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 17:59 | <krotaz> I' watching it now
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| 18:00 | <sbalneav> /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 18:00 | <krotaz> domain name wich??
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| 18:00 | <sbalneav> Doesn't need one.
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| 18:00 | <krotaz> the one that my pc have???
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| 18:01 | domain-name server???
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| 18:01 | <sbalneav> Doesn't need one.
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| 18:01 | <krotaz> option routers 192.168.0.1;
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| 18:01 | <sbalneav> the default file should work fine. the routers is there, but generally not used.
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| 18:05 | <krotaz> ok
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| 18:11 | should something be moved on the host.allow and those files???
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| 18:11 | on in the /etc/exports???
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| 18:11 | <sbalneav> No, should be set up to work by default.
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| 18:11 | /etc/exports is for nfs
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| 18:12 | which is past tftp
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| 18:12 | I take it you still can't tftp?
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| 18:12 | <krotaz> yes still cant tftp from the vmware machine
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| 18:12 | <sbalneav> Does the machine that you've got the vmware running on tftpboot?
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| 18:13 | <krotaz> sorry?? don't understand
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| 18:13 | <sbalneav> Can the physical machine that you have the vmware client running on, be set up to pxe boot in the bios?
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| 18:14 | <krotaz> let me see
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| 18:14 | the virtual network card is suppossed to be able to
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| 18:14 | <sbalneav> No.
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| 18:14 | I'm talking about using that machine itself as a thin client.
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| 18:15 | <krotaz> ok to use the same server as a thin client???
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| 18:16 | <sbalneav> You said you had a different box running the vmware machine.
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| 18:16 | how many boxes do you have?
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| 18:16 | <krotaz> no I only have 1 box
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| 18:16 | the server
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| 18:17 | and in the same server I'm using the vmware machine
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| 18:17 | <sbalneav> I asked you if you had installed vmware under the edubuntu machine, and you said you had it installed on an Ubuntu machine.
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| 18:17 | <krotaz> mmm to be honest I don't remember that
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| 18:18 | <sbalneav> <sbalneav> So you've installed vmware on an edubuntu machine/
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| 18:18 | ?
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| 18:18 | <krotaz> vmware on ubuntu
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| 18:18 | <krotaz> well I told you that I've installed it on a ubuntu machine because the server operating system is ubuntu not edubuntu
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| 18:20 | <sbalneav> ok, well, tftp is there, and working fine, since you see it with both netstat, and the tftp client can connect to it.
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| 18:20 | so the problem's with the vmware client.
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| 18:21 | <krotaz> yes
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| 18:21 | the thing it's that the vmware cliente does find the dhcp and get the right ip
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| 18:21 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 18:21 | fine.
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| 18:21 | It doesn't follow that because THAT happens, that the tftp must ALSO work.
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| 18:23 | I'm unfamiliar with vmware, as I can't afford to pay the prices they charge, so I don't have it. Maybe check with their tech support and see if they know of an issue with tftp.
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| 18:23 | <krotaz> vmware is free :P
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| 18:23 | the vmware server is free :)
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| 18:24 | <sbalneav> even if it's free, it's not Free, so I'm not interested in it anyway.
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| 18:24 | Maybe someone else here can help you, but as far as I can see, the server's functioning as it should.
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| 18:24 | <krotaz> jejej
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| 18:25 | yes
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| 18:39 | anyway thanks man
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| 18:39 | if you ever come to mexico I'll invite a beer or pulque jejeje
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| 19:16 | <krotaz> sbalneav, still the same error but checked the system logs and I found this
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| 19:18 | DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.20 (192.168.0.1) from (mac adress of the vmware) via eth0
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| 19:19 | DHCPACK on 192.168.0.20 to (mac adress of the vmware) via eth0
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| 19:19 | and loops there
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| 21:37 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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| 21:39 | <monteslu> heya jammcq
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| 22:33 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq
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| 22:41 | <jammcq> sbalneav: hey
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| 22:44 | <sbalneav> How's Things?
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| 22:44 | Still in NY?
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| 22:45 | <jammcq> yep
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| 22:46 | <ari_stress> hello guys, good afternoon
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| 22:47 | <mfdutra> hello!
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| 22:47 | <ari_stress> guys, i'm trying to enable local device on ltsp5 + feisty. i'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices, but there's no user and group administration menu
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| 22:47 | very strange?
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| 22:49 | <sbalneav> ari_stress: Systems->Administration->Users and groups.
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| 22:52 | <ari_stress> sbalneav: yes on my notebook i have that menu, but on my ltsp5 server, the menu isn't there
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| 22:52 | when i open system > administration, there's only a few menu
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| 22:53 | <sbalneav> Is the user you're logging in as the one you created at system config time? Are they in the admin group?
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| 23:04 | <jammcq> marlon !!!!
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| 23:39 | <ari_stress> sorry disconnect
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| 23:40 | <sbalneav> Is the user you're logging in as the one you created at system config time? Are they in the admin group?
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| 23:50 | <ari_stress> sbalneav: yes, it's the first user i create during install time
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| 23:50 | <mistik1> bloody strange thing, I just booted a new kernel and ended up with filesystem curruption
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| 23:51 | <sbalneav> ari_stress: Could you run the command "id" as that user, and paste the results
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| 23:51 | <ari_stress> ok
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| 23:52 | should i sudo -i or enough as the user
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| 23:52 | fajar@acerubuntu:~$ id
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| 23:52 | uid=1000(fajar) gid=1000(fajar) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),1000(fajar)
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| 23:54 | <sbalneav> Well, you're in the admin group, so if you're missing a bunch of stuff under System-Administration, looks like you're desktop's buggered up.
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| 23:56 | <ari_stress> sbalneav: sorry, after fixing the auto mount, the menu appears, but when i click on Users and Groups, it just silents
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| 23:56 | could be it related to LDAP?
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| 23:57 | <sbalneav> Probably
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| 23:58 | Are you Fajar Priyanto
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