IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 October 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 16:07 | <dgroos> Hello!
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| 16:08 | Came into classroom this morning and clients weren't working normally...
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| 16:08 | Last week I added a stand-alone ubuntu computer to my classroom LAN.
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| 16:09 | <mwalters> It's hard to work normally on monday morning
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| 16:09 | <dgroos> @mwalters, so very true!
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| 16:09 | I don't blame the clients... or the server ;-)
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| 16:11 | Epoptes on this server can WOL all of the clients, but it can't detect them as having booted...
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| 16:12 | I wonder if when I added the stand-alone client to the epoptes server, and got to the step of making the certificate...
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| 16:13 | That then that invalidated the previous certificate that the FAT clients had?
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| 16:17 | <dgroos> I tried to follow the directions @alkisg provided on: https://answers.launchpad.net/epoptes/+question/284584
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| 16:18 | Using #2 as it seemed to apply most to my 2-NIC setup where there was a fixed IP (192.168.67.1) on the LTSP server
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| 16:20 | Epoptes-server is working great with the standalone, but not the fat clients.
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| 16:25 | <dgroos> AH! looks like the ltsp.org installation page is working again! Just loaded (been trying on/off all morning).
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| 16:25 | <mwalters> I don't really have any insight here, sorry!
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| 16:26 | <dgroos> @mwalters, np, thanks though, it gave me the idea of being more encouraging to the clients/server on monday morings ;-)
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| 16:27 | <mwalters> That always helps. Pooring starbucks into them generally doesn't help... unlike me.
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| 16:27 | pouring, even
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| 16:27 | <dgroos> :-D
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> dgroos: did you somehow regenerate the server certificate or did you reinstall epoptes on the server?
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| 17:08 | dgroos: sudo md5sum /etc/epoptes/* ==> should have the same md5sum for all .crt files on the server and all the clients, ltsp and not
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| 17:09 | You can also just run ltsp-update-image -c / again, so that ltsp clients get the new certificate
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| 17:41 | <dgroos> @alkisg, I will check, thanks. I did already run: sudo ltsp-update-image --cleanup /, is that the same command?
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| 17:41 | <adbenitez> alkisg: thanks for the help last day, I lost the connection
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| 17:57 | <dgroos> I'm sure I had rebuilt image/re-started computers and it hadn't worked but now it's working so...???... And Thanks!
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| 18:04 | <alkisg> dgroos: yup, that's the same command, the computers needed restart
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| 18:07 | <dgroos> @alkisg, now it looks like epoptes only works when the standalone is off. Somehow it seems to be corrupting the process. Well, I can just keep the stand-alone off for now!
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| 18:08 | <alkisg> dgroos: it would be a serious bug if a standalone connection could disrupt the other connections
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| 18:08 | Can you test the output of sudo md5sum /etc/epoptes/* from everywhere?
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| 18:09 | <dgroos> I did that on /etc/epoptes/*
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| 18:09 | and I want to check it again and compare it with the output from before.
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| 20:14 | <mwalters> Gonna fire this one off and be back tomorrow ;)
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| 20:15 | Anyone using/have used/thought about using then changed your mind about using freeipa with ltsp?
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| 20:15 | Success stories, horror stories, caveats?
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| 20:35 | <alkisg> As of 2018 FreeIPA uses 389 Directory Server for its LDAP implementation, MIT's Kerberos 5 for authentication and single sign-on, the Apache HTTP Server and Python for the management framework and Web UI,
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| 20:35 | (optionally) DogTag[6] for the integrated CA, and BIND with a custom plugin for the integrated DNS server. Since version 3.0.0, FreeIPA also uses Samba to integrate with Microsoft's Active Directory by way of Cross Forest Trusts.
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| 20:36 | * alkisg thinks it would be a horror story to tell a teacher to install/maintain this :D | |
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| 20:44 | <vagrantc> depends on if it works or not
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| 20:45 | if they did it well, i'd be very, very impressed :)
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| 20:53 | <alkisg> Eh, I think if we had that as a prerequisite for ltsp installations, no teacher would ever install ltsp :) They can copy/paste a couple of terminal commands, but I doubt many teachers would want to spend an afternoon to set up their users system
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| 20:54 | <dgroos> I'd love to!!!
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| 20:54 | ok just kidding
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| 20:54 | actually I want it to "just work"...
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> +1
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| 20:55 | <vagrantc> alkisg: indeed
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| 20:55 | <dgroos> Alas, there were probs with my system though they did boot.
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| 20:56 | <vagrantc> the skeptic in me suspects it's a lot of work to get freeipa set up ... but the hopeful part of me would love to see all those features working and integrated and easily installable
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| 20:56 | <dgroos> Sometimes login worked, on some computers it didn't. Reboots didn't help. Different users didn't help. Hard time finding pattern :-(
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| 20:56 | but I'm looking...
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| 20:59 | <mwalters> ah, but I'm no teacher ;)
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| 21:00 | <mwalters> It's installed... there's some funkiness with the ubuntu package, but I think it's a fedora/centos project mainly
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| 21:01 | left wrk before I tried to install the client stuff onto my ltsp test box
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| 21:02 | but idea is, I have 4 ltsp servers, each with all of our users
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| 21:02 | so everytime I add a user, I need to do it 4 places... each time I need to remove a user... 4 places... etc, etc.
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| 21:03 | <vagrantc> configuration management
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| 21:03 | <mwalters> puppet?
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| 21:03 | <vagrantc> i'm partial to ansible
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| 21:03 | <mwalters> these are also business users
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| 21:03 | <vagrantc> plenty of options
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| 21:03 | <mwalters> (I'm not using it in a lab environment)
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| 21:03 | <vagrantc> mwalters: meaning what?
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| 21:04 | <mwalters> e.g., I don't want passwords in a config file ;)
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| 21:04 | * vagrantc could not fathom how to do a deployment of more than 1 computer without configuration management anymore | |
| 21:04 | * vagrantc even uses configuration management for single machine installs | |
| 21:04 | <mwalters> orly
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| 21:05 | <vagrantc> i haven't had to do password management that way, though ... i've only done setups that used ssh keys
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| 21:05 | <mwalters> yeah, we have ~50 users that are constantly moving between offices
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| 21:05 | (that are miles away from each other)
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| 21:09 | <dgroos> I'm on the server and type in terminal:
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| 21:09 | -- Logs begin at Fri 2018-09-21 08:37:03 CDT, end at Mon 2018-10-22 16:05:35 CDT. --
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| 21:09 | -- No entries --
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| 21:09 | (oops I type: journalctl -u epoptes)
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| 21:10 | shouldn't there be *lots* returned?
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| 21:12 | to be more coherent... I typed: journalctl -u epoptes
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| 21:12 | and it returned -- No entries --
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