IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 June 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:26 | <rickogden> hi all, I'm experimenting with fat clients and have been following the page on the ubuntu manual site
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| 02:27 | I've built an new client and given it the chroot fat-i386 (as I already have a client with the chroot i386 which is thin)
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| 02:27 | I can't seem to find a way to specify the chroot in ltsp-update-image
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| 02:56 | <alkisg> rickogden: the easiest way is to move all your old /opt/ltsp directory to /opt/ltsp-thin, while trying with fats
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| 02:57 | Once you get fats going, you don't need the thin one, the fat can boot thins too
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| 04:58 | <rodrigo> ola is it talk portugues
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> No :)
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| 05:20 | <Hyperbyte> Bonjour alkisg. Parlez-vous Francais?
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| 05:20 | <alkisg> | |
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| 05:20 | <Hyperbyte> Haha, my terminal doesn't like that. :P
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| 05:20 | <alkisg> Haha
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| 05:26 | <Hyperbyte> I used to hang out in the Amiga channel on EFnet, it's about the Commodore computer system
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| 05:27 | There were quite often Spanish people there, writing all kinds of things. :P
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| 06:18 | <TheMatrix3000> test
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| 06:21 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 06:30 | <dead_root> morning mgariepy
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| 07:27 | <Hyperbyte> Running VirtualBox on an LTSP thin client, good idea or bad idea?
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| 07:27 | (not as a localapp, so running on the server, via the client)
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| 07:44 | <mgariepy> Hyperbyte, it's an idea :)
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| 07:44 | you need this to run windows apps i guess ?
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| 08:07 | <alkisg> Why not as a localapp, to have graphics acceleration, lower network bandwidth etc etc? Not enough RAM?
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| 08:17 | Gadi: Here's an idea to allow "--" to be passed from screen scripts to our xinitrc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635853/
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| 08:17 | Read the explanation at line 59+ first.
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> Gadi: never mind - I think that the evil eval is needed after all, we just need to clarify when it should be used so that e.g. " -u ''" doesn't turn into just "-u". Will look more into it later.
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| 09:59 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, I want to run Windows 7 in VirtualBox
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| 09:59 | <Hyperbyte> I wouldn't feel comfortable running it on a thin client with 1.8ghz processor and 1GB ram
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| 10:00 | In fact, I wouldn't feel comfortable running it as host OS on a machine like that
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| 10:00 | I'm more curious if it'll work performance-wise, with remote X
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: Even with those specs, I'd still prefer a local installation, either vbox or even AoE.
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| 12:21 | vagrantc: yeah it looks like you were right about eval in xinitrc. getltscfg indeed requires either sourcing the output, or eval'ing it. The problem was/is in the xinitrc parameters, those didn't use quotes so that resulted in eval breaking the parameters with spaces or ''.
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| 12:21 | I'll put it back and make a note to always quote all the command line in xinitrc
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| 12:21 | <vagrantc> alkisg: glad to be right :)
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| 12:24 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, do you think LTSP + X + VirtualBox + Windows 7 can run on a thin client with 1GB ram?
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: I think it'll suffer a bit, but it'll go much, much better on youtube than with any remote graphics technology
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| 12:25 | <Hyperbyte> Actually, I only plan to use the Windows 7 to test the websites I develop.
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| 12:25 | <Gadi> Hyperbyte: you may want to look into using freerdp as a local app
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| 12:25 | they have recently added support for RemoteFX and multimedia redirection
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| 12:26 | <Hyperbyte> mhm
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| 12:26 | <Gadi> in the case of Youtube, remotefx should increase the performance dramatically
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| 12:26 | <mgariepy> Gadi, did you tests it ?
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| 12:26 | <Gadi> remotefx only works with VDI (not terminal services)
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| 12:26 | mgariepy: I have tested multimedia redirection
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| 12:27 | many others have tested remotefx
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| 12:27 | and there are youtube videos showing some live tests
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| 12:27 | <mgariepy> kk
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> (also, now there is a #freerdp on freenode)
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| 12:27 | :)
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| 12:27 | alkisg: hi
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| 12:27 | sorry - crazy days
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| 12:27 | <alkisg> Hey Gadi
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| 12:28 | <Gadi> I havent had a chance to test/follow the xinit changes
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| 12:28 | did you sort it all out?
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| 12:28 | <alkisg> I think so
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| 12:28 | At first, I thought of the correct way, i.e. to pass real command line parameters
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| 12:28 | That's what I committed
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| 12:29 | Then, you brought up the -- problem and I started thinking about it again
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| 12:29 | <alkisg> So to allow for "--" as a xinit parameter, we need to use "getltscfg-style" parameters again
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| 12:29 | So eval will be required in xinitrc,
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| 12:29 | but the problem up until now, which broke e.g. -u '', was that the xinitrc command line was unquoted
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| 12:30 | So I think that by putting: xinitrc "$all $params $here",
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| 12:30 | and then eval inside xinitrc, we'll have '' not break, spaces in parameters etc
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| 12:30 | And -- too
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| 12:32 | <Gadi> hmm... sounds like a theory
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| 12:32 | :)
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> It's close to what we had so far, but quoting the parameters should also fix most of the problems we had
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| 12:33 | I'll test it a bit tonight or tomorrow, and if it goes well I'll put it up
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| 12:33 | <Gadi> cool
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| 12:33 | gonna do it in between protests ? ;)
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> Haha we're on the news? :D
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| 12:34 | <Gadi> sure, next time smile for the camera, would ya?
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| 18:47 | <Gnoze5> yellow
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