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Channel log from 8 May 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:44 | <Trendzetter> hi folks
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| 08:47 | <Trendzetter> when I use ltsp-pnp to boot my optiplex client and use autologin to start chromium from the .profile the resolution is not correct (only 3/4 of the screen are used, the right side of the screen stays blankà. When it just logs on to MATE the resolution is OK.
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> Trendzetter: that's because in the second case you're using a window manager (marco)
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| 09:02 | Either launch marco from your .profile too (or better yet create a session for that),
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| 09:02 | or check if chromium can correctly run full screen without a window manager
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| 09:15 | <Trendzetter> ok thanks, I'll look into those options now
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| 13:22 | <wim2> I use LTSP 5.5.9 (Debian Stretch). I would like to configure NTP for all FAT Clients. If I use NBD image it does not take the option TIMESERVER in lts.conf. lts.conf is located under /srv/tftp/ltsp/stretch/ Where do I have to configure NTP when I use NBD?
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> wim2: check your tftpd logs to see where it looks for the file
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| 13:23 | Possibly in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/
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| 13:23 | Or in /srv/tftp/ltsp/i386
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| 13:24 | (for the lts.conf file, that is)
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| 13:44 | <wim2> alkisg: txs, from the logs ltsp is looking under /ltsp/amd64/lts.conf (so probably /srv/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf). But I don't have a amd64 directory. I installed my chroot under /opt/ltsp/stretch.Where can i change this that ltsp should look under /srv/tftpboot/ltsp/stretch?
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> wim2: you either need to symlink it, or backport/apply the fix for that bug
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| 13:55 | I think I committed a fix around a year ago
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| 13:59 | wim2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/1594840
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| 14:15 | <question1000> alkisg: are you here?
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> question1000: yes
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| 14:32 | !ask
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| 14:32 | <ltsp> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> question1000: are you here? :)
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| 14:38 | <wim2> alkisg: txs, I symlink, it found now the file. But the it stillnot work.In lts.conf I have under [Default] TIMESERVER = x.x.x.x (the time server works because all our servers are using this server. Do I still need something to configure?
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| 14:39 | <question1000> ok. I'm here ... I checked the situation in our classroom again. and maybe I've got a hint now why the clients are shown as "Offline" when no user is logged in??
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> wim2: run this: ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 14:39 | Can you ping TIMESERVER from that xterm? (on a client)
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| 14:39 | !localxterm
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| 14:39 | <ltsp> localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> question1000: are you telling me that you have a hint, or are you asking for help?
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| 14:41 | <question1000> look here -- maybe you know what's wrong there: https://pastebin.com/Yj9U9D5L
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> question1000: sorry, but to help you, I ask for info and you provide the results; you've never done that...
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| 14:41 | You come here, say a few things that are unrelated to the issue, and leave
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| 14:42 | I can't help that way
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| 14:42 | <question1000> yes, it's not so simple as the rooms are offline in the evenings
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> Come in the morning then
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| 14:42 | Whatever
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| 14:44 | <question1000> maybe there's a chance tomorrow morning ... let's see
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| 14:46 | <wim2> alkisg: yes I can ping
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| 14:46 | <question1000> (btw: i always wondered why there's a redirect on your website from http://www.epoptes.org/screenshots ---> https://docs.google.com/comments/.... ). I've got Firefox 53.0 (64 bit) here ...
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| 14:51 | <alkisg> wim2: check the contents of /var/cache/ltsp/ltsp_client_env
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| 14:53 | (on that localxterm)
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| 15:03 | question1000: that's how google sites work
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| 15:07 | <wim2> alkisg: i only have ltsp_config_env, and the TIMESERVER is correct here (Iam using Fat Clients)
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| 15:11 | <question1000> alkisg: ... but here I get just text when the redirect starts ... it begins with : (function(){var aa=" dcs-a-dcs-w-dcs-af-dcs-bf",ca="+1 this comment",da="-dcs-be-dcs-gh",ea="-dcs-c",fa="-dc .... a whole page full of text-only! This cant be correct .... when I use another browser (lets say "konqueror") it works...
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> wim2: then it might be an issue with jessie; try with stretch to see if we fixed it in the meantime
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| 15:17 | question1000: I can't help you with that, I don't have access to fix google sites
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| 15:17 | (or the browser you're using)
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| 15:17 | Firefox works fine here
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| 15:18 | wim2: you can also put ltsp_config_env in pastebin, to see if there's something wrong with that
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| 15:18 | <wim2> alkisg: i am using stretch
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> wim2: strange, and you still have 1-year old bugs?
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| 15:19 | Did you update the chroot?
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| 15:20 | What's the output of `sudo ltsp-info`?
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| 15:20 | <wim2> alkisg: yes with ltsp-image-update
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| 15:20 | <alkisg> wim2: no, I mean with apt-get update in the chroot
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| 15:21 | <question1000> maybe I will reconnect tomorrow morning ... bye
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| 15:21 | <alkisg> Bye
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| 15:23 | <wim2> alkisg: ltsp-info - https://pastebin.com/kUqLZRF3
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| 15:24 | alkisg: what difference would it make to do apt-get update in the chroot?
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| 15:25 | <alkisg> Hmm something doesn't add up here; you have ltsp-client 5.5.9-2 which is supposed not to have that lts.conf location bug that you've mentioned
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| 15:25 | apt-get update in the chroot updates the chroot programs
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| 15:25 | ltsp-update-image then packages them in squashfs format
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| 15:26 | If you re-package without updating first, you don't update...
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| 15:26 | But in your case it's not a matter of updates
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| 15:26 | You have a fully updated chroot, yet you have bugs that shouldn't have been there
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| 15:27 | If you add x11vnc or epoptes to the chroot, I could help with remote support on the client...
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| 15:27 | !vnc-dide
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| 15:27 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> !epoptes
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| 15:27 | <ltsp> epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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| 15:30 | <wim2> alkisg: ltsp_config_env - https://pastebin.com/DpsEaXtB
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| 15:33 | <alkisg> It looks fine
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| 15:36 | <wim2> alkisg: for me too
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> wim2: right, so your problem needs debugging, hence I suggested vnc or epoptes
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| 15:38 | Hmm although if stretch is using systemd instead of ntpd directly, then it might be a general ltsp bug, not one specific to your setup
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| 15:38 | I.e. TIMESERVER with systemd might be broken
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| 15:39 | <wim2> alkisg: stretch is using systemd
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| 15:41 | <alkisg> Yes I know, I meant if systemd in stretch has its own way of calling ntp instead of the traditional way that ltsp supported
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| 15:42 | <wim2> ok
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| 15:45 | <alkisg> Yeah I think stretch is using systemd-timedated, and we don't have any timedatectl calls in the ltsp code, so I guess we haven't implement that yet
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| 15:45 | File a bug report in upstream LTSP
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| 15:45 | !ltsp-bug
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| 15:45 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 15:56 | <wim2> alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1689338
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> wim1: nice
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| 16:10 | <wim1> alkisg: txs for your help
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