IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 27 September 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:01 | <AustriaBound> Hello all LTSP admins. I've got a successful user creation on NFS /home with remote LDAP. I'll be publishing the setup on the ltsp.org site. Just as a preview, this is a new linux user who was able to setup a virtual headless ltsp with remote home connectivity that is all passed through a remote ldap server.
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| 00:02 | Now I have an awesome lab with 50 clients. They have crossover installed on the clients so they run windows programs as well.
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| 06:13 | <AustriaBound> Would there be a way to offer a multiboot menu that could allow for a selection of images?
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| 06:17 | What would be ideal, would be a screen option that would: 1. allow for ldm session 2. for rdp session
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| 10:09 | <novin> Hi, what sort of softwares can be run on ltsp? If I use ltsp then the architecture of the ltsp server matters for the Softwares going to run on thin clients?
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| 10:18 | <novin> Hey everyone, I wanted to know the limitations of LTSP over a PC?
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| 11:02 | <Hyperbyte> eh
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| 11:03 | Hi guys. I'd like to know the disadvantages of eating grapes instead of fruit.
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| 11:54 | <markit> hi, trying ltsp on kubuntu 14.04. NBD does not start since "Message: No configured exports; quitting." What and where should be configured?
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| 11:57 | <markit> solved running ltsp-config nbd-server
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| 12:02 | <wvsfxr> i installed ubuntu 12.04 server, xfce4, ltsp-server, language-pack-de. Using a raspi as thin-client, booting with berryboot/berryterminal. Everything works fine except the language environment. Where do I set the system wide language?
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| 12:23 | <markit> wvsfxr: I don't know the answer but I'm interested in your solution :) is there a site with the howto, and did you had to change anything from that?
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| 12:43 | <markit> i've to go, sigh, bye
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| 12:44 | <wvsfxr> markit: i just installed ubuntu 12.04 server minimal, added lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter, the language packages for german.
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| 12:44 | markit: ... ok, bye
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| 13:05 | <wvsfxr> in which package ist ltsp-config?
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| 13:29 | <Hyperbyte> wvsfxr, hi
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| 13:29 | Are you using fat or thin clients?
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| 13:30 | Oh sorry, didn't read enough
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| 13:30 | Thin clients.
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| 13:30 | Do you want to configure the language for the login prompt (LTSP's login manager) or the desktop that appears after the login manager?
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| 13:31 | The first, I believe, can be set with the "LANG" parameter in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 13:31 | For example, LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8
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| 13:31 | Or your case, de_DE
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| 13:32 | Secondly, regarding the desktop environment - with thin clients, this depends entirely on your distribution.
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| 13:33 | So for that one, you need #ubuntu help and not LTSP. LTSP doesn't influence your distro's language.
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| 13:34 | I can give you the hint that there's some tool that lets you configure system-wide language from the command line, as well as install the needed packages, but I can't remember the name. I'm sure Google or the gentle folks in #ubuntu will be able to tell more.
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| 13:38 | <wvsfxr> Hyperbyte: I want to configure the standard language for both. I can change the language at the login screen and then it works, but I dont want the users to change the language all the time.
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| 13:39 | My problem is, that lts.conf settings doesnt take effect. I'm doing something wrong.
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| 13:41 | In /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf I set: LDM_LANGUAGE="de_AT.UTF-8"
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| 13:46 | Do I have to restart nbd-server or something else if I change lts.conf?
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| 13:55 | <Hyperbyte> 15:31 <Hyperbyte> For example, LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8
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| 13:56 | Try that.
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| 13:56 | but then de_DE
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| 13:57 | <wvsfxr> I tried, but it didnt work.
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| 13:57 | <Hyperbyte> You said you tried LDM_LANGUAGE
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| 13:57 | I said you should try LANG
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| 13:58 | <wvsfxr> Yes, but then I realized the mistake and tried it with LANG
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| 13:58 | <Hyperbyte> Maybe the correct locale isn't installed in the client chroot.
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| 13:58 | Either way, forget login screen for now. Focus on getting your entire system to one language. And for that, check Google or ask in #ubuntu.
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| 13:59 | When you have that working, we can consult alkisg about the login screen. alkisg is the LTSP oracle.
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| 14:02 | <wvsfxr> OK, thanks for now.
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| 14:46 | <wvsfxr> Hyperbyte: Ok, I'm sure my system is configured for de_AT.utf-8
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| 14:51 | locale -a said de_AT.uft-8 is available so i set LANG and LC_ALL in /etc/default/locale to de_AT.utf-8 (lower case).
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| 15:40 | <wvsfxr> markit: hi
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| 15:41 | You wanted to know how I installed ltsp?
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| 15:44 | <markit> wvsfxr: no, how you were able to use raspberry as a thin client
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| 15:45 | btw, where is ltsp updated documentation? I'm no more able to mount homes as nfs and not sshfs
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| 15:46 | <wvsfxr> markit: I just took the zip file from http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot and unpacked it onto a fat16 formated sd-card.
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| 15:48 | Then booted the raspi and selected to install BerryTerminal.
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| 15:49 | <Hyperbyte> markit, wiki.ltsp.org
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| 15:50 | <markit> wvsfxr: does after reboot login in ltsp LDM or is a stand alone installation and you have to start a separate session then to log into ltsp?
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| 15:50 | <Hyperbyte> markit, have you rebuilt your client? Could it be you're missing the nfs-common package in your chroot?
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| 15:50 | <markit> Hyperbyte: hi, I've the feeling that hostname needs to be "server" to have things go smootly
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| 15:50 | Hyperbyte: good shot!
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| 15:51 | Hyperbyte: I've rebuild the chroot but I'm not sure there is a nfs-client there
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| 15:51 | <Hyperbyte> markit, there probably isn't.
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| 15:51 | !screen_02
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| 15:51 | <ltsp`> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 15:51 | <Hyperbyte> Do that, then try mounting manually. See if that works.
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| 15:51 | Probably says it doesn't recognize filesystem type nfs
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| 15:51 | <markit> Hyperbyte: in fact, there is not (ltsp-chroot, then dpkg -l | grep nfs)
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| 15:52 | Hyperbyte: was in a hurry and cut too many corners ;P
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| 15:52 | Hyperbyte: thanks a lot
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| 15:53 | <wvsfxr> markit: it comes directly to login because my dhcp server tells to boot with the image from ltsp-server.
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| 15:55 | <markit> wvsfxr: ah, so you have a image for arm cpu in ltsp server? (a thin one, I suppose), how did you created it and how your dhcp server is configure to work both with i386 and raspbery (if this is the case)
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| 15:55 | ?
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| 15:57 | <wvsfxr> Hyperbyte: You said that ldm doesnt influence the language settings of xfce4. Is this correct?
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| 15:58 | <Hyperbyte> wvsfxr, not entirely sure now I think about it. It probably can, but by default it picks the system language.
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| 15:58 | <wvsfxr> markit: no, I just use the i386 image.
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| 15:59 | * markit confused with wvsfxr | |
| 16:00 | <Hyperbyte> wvsfxr, I think what markit is trying to say: how are you using an i386 image on an arm processor?
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| 16:00 | <markit> Hyperbyte: well, I would say: you CAN'T ever never do that ;P
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| 16:01 | <wvsfxr> Hyperbyte: I wonder, because if I set the language on login screen, the language setting is correctly german in my xfce4 session.
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| 16:01 | <markit> Hyperbyte: you have been more diplomatic
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| 16:03 | <Hyperbyte> wvsfxr, and you're logging in via a raspberry pi?
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| 16:04 | <wvsfxr> I think :)
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| 16:04 | yes I am
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| 16:06 | Now I'm confused. I think I have the wrong view.
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| 16:06 | <Hyperbyte> Raspberry Pi has an ARM CPU. It doesn't work with an i386 chroot.
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| 16:08 | <wvsfxr> Ok, then the arm image comes from berryterminal.
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| 16:09 | And I have to configure the language on berryterminal image.
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| 16:09 | <markit> Hyperbyte: any chance to change the expected hostname of ltsp server from "server" to something more peculiar, like "ltspserver"? The probability to have a "server" already in the lan is quite high
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| 16:26 | <Hyperbyte> markit, in fact, in my lan I have a "server" already
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| 16:26 | But it doesn't matter.
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| 16:26 | Not really, anyways. "server" isn't the hostname of the LTSP server, it's just an alias LTSP clients use.
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| 16:27 | It doesn't conflict with existing servers in the network, as it's not a DNS name.
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| 16:40 | <wvsfxr> Guys, thanks.
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| 16:40 | Lets go for a beer. I pay.
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| 17:25 | <Hyperbyte> Where in Austria are you? :-)
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| 17:34 | <wvsfxr> Between Salzburg and Linz
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| 17:35 | Hyperbyte: Between Salzburg and Linz.
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| 17:36 | <markit> Hyperbyte: mmm not really, AFAIR, I had to add in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf the parameter ServerAlias * otherwise I had "invalid host"
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| 17:37 | Hyperbyte: and AFAIR Alkisg said that was because my "server" had not hostname "server"
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| 17:37 | (had gnultsp1204)
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| 17:37 | <Hyperbyte> markit, mhm
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| 17:37 | I'm still not sure if that's DNS related.
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| 17:38 | <markit> wvsfxr: oh, next week we will have a karate teacher here for a stage, coming from Linz :)
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| 17:40 | <wvsfxr> :) where are you from?
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| 17:40 | <markit> Hyperbyte: looking at my old notes in /var/log/cups/error_log of the server I had
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| 17:40 | E [06/Jan/2013:13:09:44 +0100] Request from "192.168.20.104" using invalid Host: field "server"
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| 17:41 | where 192.168.20.104 is the IP of the client (I suppose a fat one)
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| 17:46 | <markit> mmm apt-get update in the "server" works fine, in the chroot I've NO_PUBKEY 0BB4C0D56AE1EE0F and other 2 more
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| 17:46 | maybe I know why, sorry for the noise
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