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Channel log from 18 February 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:31 | <vishal> I have configured the ltsp
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| 03:31 | but client is not booting , asking for tftp faild
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| 03:32 | help me out
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| 03:34 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 03:34 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Error: "tftp" is not a valid command.
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| 03:35 | <alkisg> !learn tftp as here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 03:35 | <ltspbot> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 03:40 | <zamba> is it possible to set default printer per thin client machine?
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| 03:41 | <muppis> Sure, it's set in lts.conf
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| 03:46 | <elias_a> Is it possible to use group based default printers together with that?
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| 03:49 | <vishal> tftp 10.160.31.10 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,when I am typing this ......it is giving //////// error code found : fine not found
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| 03:49 | help me out
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| 03:49 | <zamba> muppis: oh, ok, interesting :)
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| 04:16 | <alkisg> vishal: it says to install the tftp client before issuing that command
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| 04:17 | sudo apt-get install tftp-hpa
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| 04:17 | vishal: what distribution are you using, and which version?
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| 04:18 | <vishal> ubuntu 10.04 , and i have already installed tftp-hpa
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| 04:18 | same error is comming
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| 04:19 | <alkisg> vishal: so you checked everything that is on that wiki page, and you couldn't find your problem?
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| 04:19 | I.e. you checked /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, and you checked that the file is there etc?
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| 04:20 | vishal: also, did you use your server IP there?
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| 04:20 | Or did you just blindly put 10.160.31.10, which is just an example?
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| 04:23 | <vishal> alkisg : that file is there (/etc/default/tftpd-hpa)
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| 04:23 | no i pur server ip
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| 04:23 | <alkisg> vishal: yes, I know, but in the wiki page it says to check if it is *correct*
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| 04:23 | Not just if it's there
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| 04:24 | And, also, to check if the file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 is *there*
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| 04:24 | vishal: I'm in the middle of something so I don't have much time for chat, would you like to share your screen remotely so that we can solve this in 1-2 minutes?
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| 04:24 | <vishal> k tell me how to check that file tftpd-hpa
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| 04:25 | k
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| 04:25 | <alkisg> It says how to check in the wiki
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| 04:25 | OK
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| 04:25 | Do you have a GUI?
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| 04:25 | Or just ssh access on the server?
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| 04:25 | <vishal> yes
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| 04:25 | <alkisg> Run: sudo apt-get install x11vnc
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| 04:25 | And then: x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 04:25 | This will share your screen with me
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| 04:27 | If you are on a thin client, you need -noshm. So instead run: x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 04:30 | <zamba> muppis: i don't find the option
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| 04:30 | for setting the default printer per thin client
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| 04:32 | <vishal> you got my desktop
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| 04:32 | <alkisg> vishal: no
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| 04:32 | x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 04:32 | And see if it displays any errors
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| 04:34 | <vishal> The VNC desktop is: ltsp:0 PORT=5900
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| 04:37 | <alkisg> vishal: no, I didn't receive a connection
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| 04:37 | <vishal> after that noting is comming /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/
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| 04:37 | <alkisg> Let's try without a GUI
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| 04:37 | <vishal> tell me what i do
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| 04:37 | k
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| 04:37 | <alkisg> sudo apt-get install screen socat
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| 04:38 | <vishal> k
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| 04:38 | then
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| 04:38 | <alkisg> socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1 && exec screen -x",pty,stderr tcp:alkisg.dyndns.org:5500 & exec xterm -e screen -l
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| 04:38 | <vishal> alkisg: then
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| 04:39 | my screen will gone
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| 04:39 | u got it
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| 04:39 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 04:39 | <vishal> k
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| 04:40 | tell me the solution
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| 04:40 | <alkisg> Let's try with a little different command: socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1 && exec screen -x",pty,stderr tcp:alkisg.dyndns.org:5500 & exec screen -l
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| 04:40 | This is without xterm, maybe you have X problems
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| 04:41 | <vishal> u got it
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> Nope, sorry
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| 04:41 | I don't know what's wrong
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| 04:41 | <vishal> it is like clean the screen
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| 04:41 | i don't know
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> But I don't have any time left, I need to leave
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| 04:41 | I'll be back later on if you don't find the solution
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| 04:42 | <vishal> tell me i could not found /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/
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| 04:42 | <alkisg> But read the wiki page carefully, and follow all the steps there
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| 04:42 | bb
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| 04:42 | <vishal> k
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| 04:55 | <muppis> zamba, LDM_PRINTER_DEFAULT is correct parameter.
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| 05:16 | <zamba> muppis: and that refers to the cups printers?
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| 05:17 | muppis: can you create a group of hosts in lts.conf?
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| 05:22 | <muppis> zamba, yes, that refers to cups. I think that setting must be created per client, but you create setting stanzas to act like a group. Look here for example: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/lts.conf.5.html#contenttoc14
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| 05:24 | <zamba> muppis: oki
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| 06:02 | <zamba> i have a strange problem with my thin clients.. the resolution is too low at the first boot up
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| 06:02 | but after a login and then logout, the resolution is correct
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| 06:09 | <zamba> i believe the problem can be amended just by restarting the xdm.. is it possible to issue one simple restart of it after boot-up?
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| 06:13 | nevermind.. it's called ldm :)
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| 06:18 | that's the only thing i need to figure out before i can set these up in production
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| 06:24 | <alkisg> zamba: try putting "nomodeset" in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 07:06 | <zamba> alkisg: ok
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| 07:07 | alkisg: as a single line?
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| 07:07 | alkisg: or as a kernel mode
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| 07:07 | after the append?
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| 07:11 | <alkisg> zamba: replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"
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| 07:11 | <zamba> alkisg: ok, will give that a try
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| 07:16 | <Masdjo> I install LTSP in Debian 6, client can get IP but can't boot to server
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| 07:17 | <alkisg> Masdjo: last messages on screen?
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| 07:18 | <Masdjo> no network device
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| 07:21 | <alkisg> Masdjo: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
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| 07:22 | <Masdjo> i have ubuntu LTSP and work well
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> Masdjo: no, I mean to read what it says and do it on the debian server
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| 07:23 | <Masdjo> OK, i wil try, thank you
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> Ubuntu and Debian are very similar, I bet the problem you have is a missing network module and you can fix it with that page
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| 07:29 | <zamba> alkisg: well.. that didn't work at all.. now all i get is a blank screen
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| 07:29 | <alkisg> zamba: what network card does the client have?
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| 07:29 | ***graphics card
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| 07:30 | Restore the nomodeset change, and run `lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA` in a localxterm to find out the model
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| 07:30 | !localxterm
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| 07:30 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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| 07:30 | <zamba> alkisg: nvidia nv5m64 riva tnt2
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| 07:31 | <alkisg> So it uses the nouveau driver?
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| 07:31 | Or it's too old and it uses nv?
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| 07:32 | <zamba> alkisg: have no idea.. how do i check?
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| 07:32 | <alkisg> zamba: see the command I wrote 5 lines above
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| 07:35 | <zamba> i'll check.. just have to wait for the upgrade of the server to complete
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| 07:35 | <alkisg> I don't know if it's related, but you don't need to upgrade every time you change lts.conf or pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 07:36 | <zamba> nope, not related.. doing a karmic -> lucid upgrade
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| 07:37 | <alkisg> OK. You need to rebuild the chroot after upgrades, i.e. delete /opt/ltsp and run ltsp-build-client.
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| 07:44 | <zamba> yup
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| 07:45 | what about flash? has there been any developments there recently?
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| 07:45 | <zamba> the only solution is to run firefox locally?
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| 07:46 | and another question.. i want to enable auto login as the guest user
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| 07:46 | the guest user that basically just logs on with username/password set to the hostname
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| 07:46 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 07:46 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 07:47 | <alkisg> See the man page, it mentions LDM_AUTOLOGIN
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| 07:47 | <muppis> zamba, you can run it at server if you use LDM_DIRECTX
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| 07:47 | <zamba> muppis: run what at a server?
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| 07:48 | <muppis> zamba, FF/Flash
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| 07:48 | <zamba> muppis: i've set it, but it's impossible to play back flash videos
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| 07:48 | muppis: like youtube and so on
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| 07:48 | <muppis> I did so and 480p played almost smoothly.
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| 07:48 | <alkisg> With LDM_DIRECTX=True you can playback youtube video, but not fullscreen
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| 07:48 | <zamba> yeah, the problem is fullscreen
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| 07:49 | and it's also laggy when not in fullscreen
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| 07:49 | <alkisg> Full screen video can be played by any app that supports XVideo acceleration (i.e. totem, vlc etc)
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| 07:49 | <muppis> But gotta go.
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| 07:49 | <alkisg> The nv drivers in Karmic are really bad, they don't support XV. In Lucid, nouveau is better.
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| 07:50 | <zamba> we'll see what happens after the upgrade to lucid is completed
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| 07:50 | maybe that'll fix a lot of things
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| 07:50 | <alkisg> Not full screen flash though :)
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| 07:50 | You need either localapps or fat clients for that
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| 07:51 | <zamba> k
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| 07:51 | will try a restart here now..
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| 07:51 | <alkisg> !flash
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| 07:51 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "flash" :: Yes, flash sucks. Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try some flash replacing plugin like https://addons.mozilla.org/el/firefox/addon/161869/ (per user installation, gecko-mediaplayer is also needed).
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| 08:31 | <Masdjo> still no succes on Debian 6 LTSP :(
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| 08:40 | <alkisg> Masdjo: does the kernel load?
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| 08:41 | <Masdjo> i have add network module (8139too) but still cant boot
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| 08:42 | <alkisg> (04:42:08 PM) alkisg: Masdjo: does the kernel load?
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| 08:42 | I mean, do you see "loading..." when the kernel starts?
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| 08:42 | <Masdjo> tftp://0.0.0.0//ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 ......
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| 08:42 | <alkisg> 0.0.0.0? That doesn't look right
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| 08:42 | What is your server IP?
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| 08:43 | <Masdjo> 192.168.0.17
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| 08:43 | <alkisg> Can you post your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to pastebin?
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| 08:43 | !pastebin
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| 08:43 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 08:46 | <Masdjo> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/vRr66Lj9
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| 08:47 | i stil use default dhcpd with little modification of IP
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| 08:49 | <alkisg> Masdjo: ltsp overrides the default dhcpd file with /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 08:49 | Which file did you post? From what path?
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| 08:50 | <Masdjo> /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 08:51 | <alkisg> OK. Do you have another dhcp server running?
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| 08:51 | E.g. in your router?
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| 08:51 | (in the same subnet)
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| 08:51 | <Masdjo> i use adsl modem wih dhcp (192.168.1.1)
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| 08:51 | <alkisg> You can't have 2 dhcp servers in one subnet
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| 08:52 | <Masdjo> i also have proxy server at 192.168.0.19
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> Choose which one you want to keep
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| 08:52 | Are they on the same subnet? Or you have 2 network cards in your LTSP server and they are on separate subnets?
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| 08:53 | <Masdjo> modem use different subnet (192.168.1.0), ltsp = 192.168.0.0
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> No, I mean physical subnet
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| 08:53 | <Masdjo> its works well on ubuntu ltsp
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> Do you have 1 switch, where all the cables get connected?
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| 08:54 | It's a broken setup. First step is to fix it :)
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| 08:54 | <Masdjo> modem--->proxy server---switch---LTSP server & client
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| 08:54 | <alkisg> So the proxy server has 2 network cards?
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| 08:54 | <Masdjo> yes
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> OK, if it doesn't do NATting then they are separate subnets
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| 08:55 | From your server, try this as root: /usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig -n eth0
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| 08:55 | And check that it *doesn't* return an IP assigned by your router
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| 08:57 | If you got an IP there, paste the result to pastebin
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| 08:58 | <Masdjo> only one line : IP-Config: eth0 hardware address 00:1d:0f:20:1b:c4 mtu 1500 DHCP RARP
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| 08:58 | <alkisg> OK, nice
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| 08:58 | Now, please write as many lines from the client as you can
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| 08:58 | <alkisg> Like the one you wrote above with tftp://0.0.0.0//ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 ......
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| 08:59 | I.e. what IP it gets, what subnet, whatever it reports there
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| 08:59 | <Masdjo> ok, wait a minute :)
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| 09:10 | <Masdjo> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/MUfzd2au
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| 09:11 | i'm so sorry for wait along time :)
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| 09:12 | <alkisg> Masdjo: is your tftp server running?
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| 09:12 | netstat -nap | grep :69
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| 09:12 | <Masdjo> yes
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| 09:13 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
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| 09:13 | 1633/in.tftpd
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| 09:14 | <alkisg> Try to uncomment line #13 in your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, and to put your ltsp server IP there:
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| 09:14 | next-server 192.168.0.17;
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| 09:14 | Then restart your dhcp server: invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
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| 09:14 | And reboot client
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| 09:14 | <Masdjo> ok
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| 09:16 | debian squeeze use isc-dhcpd
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| 09:16 | <alkisg> Yes, that's dhcp3-server
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| 09:17 | <Masdjo> Wooow...you are amazing...its works now :D
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| 09:17 | <alkisg> Nice, it looks like a broken boot rom
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| 09:17 | It should use the boot server if next-server isn't defined
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| 09:17 | <Masdjo> i use CDROM to boot
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| 09:17 | <alkisg> But anyway
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| 09:17 | Ah, what cdrom? etherboot?
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| 09:17 | !gpxe
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| 09:17 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "gpxe" :: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
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| 09:17 | <Masdjo> gpxe
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| 09:17 | <alkisg> Which version?
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| 09:18 | <Masdjo> mix, from 0.96 to 1.00
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| 09:18 | its works well before, on ubuntu ltsp
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| 09:18 | <alkisg> Hm... weird
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| 09:18 | <Masdjo> I can't say anything, but thank you very much :D
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| 09:19 | <alkisg> If you want, you can remove that #next-server line again, and run `config` in the command line of gpxe
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| 09:19 | This way you'll see what dhcp3-server sends
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| 09:19 | But since it works, I don't think it's worth it to troubleshoot it more :D
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| 09:19 | OK
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| 09:20 | <Masdjo> alkisg : now i want try it, and may God bless you, thanks :D
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| 10:20 | <tompis> hi, im having trouble with ltsp-build-client, it returns the error: /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/common/010-chroot-tagging: line 3: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp_chroot: No such file or directory
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| 10:20 | im running Linux Mint debian edition
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| 10:21 | prior to ltsp-build-client I did install ltsp-standalone via synaptic pm
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| 10:22 | sources.list is as it came after install:
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| 10:23 | deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
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| 10:23 | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
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| 10:23 | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
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| 10:23 | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
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