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Channel log from 27 November 2006 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:16 | <Capricorn^80> hi
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| 00:17 | i m following 12 steps for local support device doc
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| 00:18 | but i got error when i try to install LTSP localdev support package
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| 00:18 | root@mainframe /]# rpm -i ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1.i386.rpm
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| 00:18 | file /etc/init.d/ltspswapd from install of
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| 00:18 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1 conflicts with file from package
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| 00:18 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:18 | file /etc/sysconfig/ltspswapd from install of
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| 00:18 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1 -1 conflicts with file from package
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| 00:18 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:18 | file /usr/sbin/ltspswapd from install of
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| 00:18 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1 co nflicts with file from package
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| 00:18 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:18 | file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/lbus-start.sh from install of
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| 00:18 | ltsp-server- pkg-fedora-0.1-1 conflicts with file from package
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| 00:18 | ltsp_ltspfs-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5. 0.0
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| 00:18 | file /usr/sbin/ltspfs from install of ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1
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| 00:18 | confl icts with file from package ltsp_ltspfs-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:20 | any one tell me about this error ?
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| 00:54 | <Capricorn^80> i m following 12 steps for local support device doc
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| 00:57 | but i got error when i try to install LTSP localdev support package
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| 00:58 | root@mainframe /]# rpm -i ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1.i386.rpm
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| 00:58 | file /etc/init.d/ltspswapd from install of
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| 00:58 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1 conflicts with file from package
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| 00:58 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:58 | file /etc/sysconfig/ltspswapd from install of
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| 00:58 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1 -1 conflicts with file from package
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| 00:58 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:58 | file /usr/sbin/ltspswapd from install of
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| 00:58 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1 co nflicts with file from package
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| 00:58 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 00:58 | file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/lbus-start.sh from install of
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| 00:58 | ltsp-server- pkg-fedora-0.1-1 conflicts with file from package
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| 00:58 | ltsp_ltspfs-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5. 0.0
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| 00:58 | file /usr/sbin/ltspfs from install of ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1
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| 00:58 | confl icts with file from package ltsp_ltspfs-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 01:24 | <Capricorn^80> anyone there ?
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| 05:02 | <Capricorn^80> hi
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| 05:02 | anyone there ?
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| 05:06 | <MoL0ToV^> yep
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| 05:07 | <Capricorn^80> thx
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| 05:08 | i m following the doc ltsp local device suppport
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| 05:08 | as my users get some problem sometime
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| 05:11 | <cliebow> PMantis:use #edubuntu 8~)
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| 05:12 | <Capricorn^80> n when i was trying to install local dev support pakcage
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| 05:12 | i got error
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| 05:12 | root@mainframe /]# rpm -i ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1.i386.rpm
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| 05:12 | file /etc/init.d/ltspswapd from install of
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| 05:12 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1 conflicts with file from package
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| 05:12 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 05:12 | file /etc/sysconfig/ltspswapd from install of
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| 05:12 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1 -1 conflicts with file from package
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| 05:12 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 05:12 | file /usr/sbin/ltspswapd from install of
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| 05:12 | ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1 co nflicts with file from package
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| 05:12 | ltsp_ltspswapd-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 05:12 | file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/lbus-start.sh from install of
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| 05:12 | ltsp-server- pkg-fedora-0.1-1 conflicts with file from package
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| 05:12 | ltsp_ltspfs-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5. 0.0
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| 05:12 | file /usr/sbin/ltspfs from install of ltsp-server-pkg-fedora-0.1-1
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| 05:12 | confl icts with file from package ltsp_ltspfs-4.2.0-0.k12ltsp.5.0.0
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| 05:13 | sorry if tere will be any time mistake as my right hand is burn from heater . so cannot write properly
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| 05:14 | anyhow but when i added user to fuse group . its usb is working fine
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| 05:15 | is that ok ? y i m getting the above error
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| 05:26 | <cliebow> cap:if things work you are golden
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| 05:27 | <Capricorn^80> haha
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| 05:35 | <cliebow> seems like you have a working ltspfs either way..
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| 06:14 | <cliebow> lter..
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| 06:17 | <MRH2> hey has anyone tried those gnome 3d desktop effects with a remote terminal? do they work ok?
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| 06:19 | <cliebow> not i
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| 06:24 | seems like they are just pictures of the server though,..huh?
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| 06:25 | <MRH2> huh? ;)
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| 07:47 | <PMantis> Hi guys
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| 07:54 | <wspinto_> Hi! Please, any people install the ltsp in Ubuntu6.10?
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| 09:33 | <jernst> hi everyone
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| 09:33 | <jernst> I'm testing muekow using ubuntu edgy and I have speed problems
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| 09:34 | <vagrantc> jernst: what speed are your thin-clients ?
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| 09:34 | <jernst> I tried xdmcp, ssh with and without compression, 16 bits, 8 bits, it still takes ages until the desktop is loaded and then it takes one second to react for each clics
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| 09:34 | <vagrantc> hmmm...
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| 09:34 | <vagrantc> how fast is your server?
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| 09:34 | <jernst> for my tests I have used dual cores with 1GB ram, old P3 with 512 MB but they are all slow
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| 09:35 | my server is an intel dualcore#2.13 Ghz
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| 09:35 | with 2GB DDR
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| 09:35 | running Gnome locally on the server is very fast
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| 09:35 | <vagrantc> xdmcp shouldn't be slow at all...
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| 09:36 | <jernst> when using cdmcp even gdm is appearing very slowly, gdm is comming bloc by bloc on the screen
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| 09:36 | it feels like doing vnc over dial up
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| 09:36 | and I have gigabit lan here...
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| 09:37 | <vagrantc> strange.
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| 09:38 | <jernst> it takes like 6-7 second to maximize firefox from the tray, I guess it's not normal....
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| 09:40 | <vagrantc> how fast are the thin-clients ?
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| 09:40 | CPU/RAM
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| 09:40 | <jernst> text is fast (gnome-terminal, firefox status bar, etc.) but creating windows is slow
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| 09:42 | <jernst> I currently use a laptop: Intel core 2 @ 2.13 Ghz, 1GB Ram
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| 09:42 | <vagrantc> ok...
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| 09:42 | <jernst> I wonder how I can find the bottleneck
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| 09:42 | <vagrantc> at this point, my only guess is a buggy switch or buggy NIC somewhere on the network.
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| 09:43 | jernst: does that laptop have linux installed on the had drive?
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| 09:43 | jernst: you could test xdmcp from there to see if it behaves the same ...
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| 09:44 | <jernst> vagrantc: yes it has
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| 09:45 | <vagrantc> jernst: you could boot to the hard disk, stop X from running, and then at the commandline: sudo X -query your.server.ip.address
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| 09:45 | <jernst> ok will do
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| 09:45 | and I will try to connect to another linux machine
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| 09:45 | <vagrantc> have you tried with other thin-clients besides the laptop?
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| 09:45 | <jernst> this way I will be able to tell if the server's nic is faulty
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| 09:45 | vagrantc: yes
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| 09:46 | <vagrantc> yeah, that's about exhausted all my troubleshooting ideas :)
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| 09:46 | <jernst> the motherboard on the server is quite new
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| 09:46 | and the driver is provided by the vendor in source form
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| 09:46 | I guess it could be the problem
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| 09:50 | <tmjb> does rdesktop printers should have line PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0 and PRINTER_0_TYPE = U , must I setup something more to see it in session od RDP ?
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| 09:51 | <jernst> vagrantc: ok I'm trying xdmcp from the laptop to the server (from hard disk). It's slow too
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| 09:51 | vagrantc: gdm is comming in blocs
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| 09:52 | <vagrantc> jernst: ok, well, then it must not be ltsp-specific, then.
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| 09:53 | <tmjb> jernst,slow hmm maybe some resolv.conf problem
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| 09:55 | <jernst> tmjb: how ? I'm using ip adresse and no host name I think
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| 09:56 | <tmjb> jernst, what it your network card
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| 09:57 | jernst, try copy something via scp on our remote server to is if the bandwith is the problem ?
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| 09:57 | <jernst> tmjb: the driver is atl1
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| 09:58 | <jernst> the chip is attensic L1
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| 10:00 | <tmjb> hmm
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| 10:00 | <jernst> I'm trying scp
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| 10:00 | <tmjb> and
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| 10:01 | scp is limited but that would give enogh info that your bandw is ok
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| 10:02 | <jernst> tmjb: I'm taring some files to have a big enough file
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| 10:04 | <tmjb> oh
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| 10:08 | <jernst> hmm it's currently ~20KB/s, not so good
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| 10:08 | I guess I will replace the nic and see if everything is ok then
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| 10:08 | brb
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| 10:11 | <tmjb> that is the problem
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| 10:12 | anyway could some one help me with my RDP printing via LTSP
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| 10:13 | <jernst> I just logged in from the same laptop to another X server on a very old machine. It's lightning fast compared to my other tests, I will now replace the nic on the server. Thanks everyone for helping me find the problem
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| 10:13 | <tmjb> shoud I have cups on my LTSP to see my printers in rdp session
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| 10:13 | jernst,np
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| 10:14 | * vagrantc knows very little about RDP | |
| 10:15 | <tmjb> must go
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| 10:15 | I will solved it tomorow anyway tnx seya
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| 10:25 | <efra> Hi everibody
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| 11:23 | <jernst> hi I'm back ;-) now that I fixed my networking slowness problems by replacing the nic, remote sessions work well. However I rarely can finish the boot prrocess because nfs time's out
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| 11:25 | I found something about nfs server not responding in the wiki but it doesn't seem to fix it
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| 11:58 | <PMantis> Hi guys
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| 12:05 | <jerns1> hi
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| 12:06 | my nfs server is timing out nearly every time now... I tried the solutions on the wiki but it didn't help
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| 12:32 | <max1975> Hello, I'm new to LTSP. I've cofigured a server with k12ltsp ver. 5 and I can start and use my clients normally. Now I'm trying to print to a client local parallel printer (HP LaserJet 6L), but the client is missing the /dev/lp0 entry. I also tried to load the kernel modules parport, parport_pc and ppdev, and with these loaded I've a device named /dev/parports/0 but I'm still missing the /dev/lp0 device. Obviously, when I
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| 12:45 | <rjent> Greetings, I have an ltsp setup on the suse9.3 system and nfs. For some reason after the holiday break is acting funny in that the clients fail to mount with bad mount point error. If I change the export from /opt/ltsp to /opt/ltsp/i386 it will work for a while. Once it acts up again, I can switch back to /opt/ltsp to work for a while longer. Any ideas.
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| 13:20 | <TurtleBoots> hello all
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| 13:21 | <jernst> hello
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| 13:21 | <TurtleBoots> can anyone please advise on how to connect TV to Ubuntu box?
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| 13:21 | PLEASE :-)
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| 13:22 | <jernst> using ltsp ?
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| 13:24 | <TurtleBoots> ermm no I don't think so. I completely new to this so please be patient :-)
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| 13:24 | I was advise to join this channel
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| 13:24 | and ask if anyone knew how to connect Ubuntu box to external output such as TV ?
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| 13:26 | <jernst> this channel is to discuss ltsp, a way to use thinclients in a networked environement
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| 13:26 | I guess you should go to #ubuntu
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| 13:26 | <TurtleBoots> ohh... wrong place completely then I guess
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| 13:26 | <jernst> however you can just connect the TV Out of your video card to your TV and it should work (maybe you'll have to change something
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| 13:27 | <TurtleBoots> jernst: yes it's the maybe having to change something part I'm stuck at... I was advised that the xorg.conf needs to be changed?
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| 13:27 | Can you please advise?
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| 13:29 | <jernst> it depends of your video card
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| 13:31 | <TurtleBoots> jernst: I've got the name of my video card, so is there anywhere you can recommend I should start looking please?
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| 13:32 | <jernst> TurtleBoots: what video card do you have (chip)
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| 13:33 | <TurtleBoots> jernst: this is what I took from lspci: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200]
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| 13:33 | I hope this is what you mean. Like I say I'm very new to all this and am still finding my way
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| 13:34 | jernst: is this what you meant by video card chip?
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| 13:35 | <jernst> yes
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| 13:37 | TurtleBoots: are you using edgy or dapper
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| 13:37 | TurtleBoots: did you install the proprietary nvidia drive ("nvidia") or the free one ("nv")
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| 13:38 | bon tant mieux alors si je t'ai pas trop fait ch...
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| 13:38 | <TurtleBoots> jernst: in xorg.conf it reads "nv" so I assume this is the free one
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| 13:39 | <jernst> oups wrong channel
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| 13:39 | TurtleBoots: what version of Ubuntu do you have ?
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| 13:40 | TurtleBoots: I'll continue this discussion in private because it's not ltsp related
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| 13:40 | <TurtleBoots> that'd be great! :-)
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| 13:42 | jernst: I've left you a note in private chat.
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| 13:44 | <g333k_work> Hi, I have a problem with firefox, when my clients have a unexpected reboot and then try to load firefox it says that its already running and have to kill the old process before run it. I want to add a line to the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.sysinit that kills all the firefox process for each user every boot, but I 'm not sure if I will kill all the firefox process of my clients, any clue?
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| 13:44 | <jernst> TurtleBoots: it doesn't seem to work
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| 13:44 | TurtleBoots: you can follow the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
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| 13:45 | <TurtleBoots> that was really helpful of you jernst. Thank you for the help and I'll go take a look at this. :0(
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| 13:45 | <jernst> TurtleBoots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
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| 13:45 | <TurtleBoots> opps I mean :-)
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| 13:46 | <jernst> TurtleBoots: but first before to follow one or the other guide, you'll have to follow this one to install the correct drivers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
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| 13:46 | <TurtleBoots> jernst: thank you very much!
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| 13:47 | <jernst> TurtleBoots: you're welcome
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| 13:51 | <g333k_work> any clue for me?
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| 13:55 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 13:55 | Gadi: ping
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| 13:55 | <g333k_work> hey jammcq I need your help
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| 13:55 | <jammcq> g333k_work: umm, ok, what's up?
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| 13:55 | <g333k_work> Hi, I have a problem with firefox, when my clients have a unexpected reboot and then try to load firefox it says that its already running and have to kill the old process before run it. I want to add a line to the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.sysinit that kills all the firefox process for each user every boot, but I 'm not sure if I will kill all the firefox process of my clients, any clue?
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| 13:56 | "that's what I said a few minutes ago"
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| 13:56 | <jammcq> g333k_work: you can't do that. at least not that way
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| 13:56 | rc.sysinit runs on the client, firefox is running on the server
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| 13:57 | g333k_work: what distro are you using?
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| 13:57 | <g333k_work> jammcq, so how can I kill the "dead" process of firefox before login as a user?
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| 13:57 | <jernst> g333k_work: you can kill the process in a script executed when the client is logging in, it will only kill his own processes
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| 13:57 | <g333k_work> jammcq, ubuntu
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| 13:57 | <g333k_work> jernst, Yeah.. this is what I want to do
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| 13:57 | <jammcq> the display manager is suposed to detect that you've dropped your session, and its *supposed* to kill all child processes
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| 13:58 | <g333k_work> jammcq, as you said.... "its supposed", but it is not doing it's duties
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| 13:59 | <g333k_work> So where should I put that script? and can you help me to write it?
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| 14:00 | <jernst> g333k_work: I mean if you use gnome on the clients you can use gnome-session-properties
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| 14:00 | <g333k_work> jernst, I'm using xfce btw
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| 14:02 | jammcq, any other clue?
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| 14:02 | <jammcq> g333k_work: jernst seems to be leading you down the right path, i'd follow him
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| 14:03 | <g333k_work> ok let me try
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| 14:04 | <jernst> g333k_work: just find a way to make xfce run a script on startup and put killall process_name in this script
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| 14:05 | <g333k_work> jernst, yeah,,, it has something like gnome-session
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| 14:21 | <PMantis> jammcq, ping
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| 14:28 | <mrlinux> help
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| 14:28 | anyone here
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| 14:29 | <Gadi> jammcq: pong
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| 14:30 | <mrlinux> i need help setting up the dchp
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| 14:31 | <Gadi> mrlinux: clairvoyance is not our forte
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| 14:32 | what seems to be the problem?
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| 14:33 | <mrlinux> the problem is that i have 2 nic's one is for internet the other is going to go to the clients
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| 14:34 | <mrlinux> the dhcp config says 192.168.0.1 but i have to use 172.31.4.02
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| 14:36 | i need help configuring it
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| 14:38 | gadi, so can you help me
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| 14:38 | <Gadi> um, sure
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| 14:38 | <mrlinux> i am just unfammiler with edubuntu
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| 14:38 | 6.10
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| 14:38 | <Gadi> you have a sample that you are working from?
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| 14:39 | oh, and just out of curiosity, if you have 2 nics, why do you need to use a particular subnet?
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| 14:39 | <mrlinux> sample?
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| 14:40 | ok how i want it so that this server has the 172 addy but i want it to send the others a 192 or different ip addy
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| 14:41 | <Gadi> just plug the 172 side into the network switch that connects to the existing network, and the 192 side to another switch that only connects to the thin clients
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| 14:42 | <mrlinux> ok good execpt i want this machine to give the other computers the 192 address
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| 14:42 | via a lan not a switch
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| 14:43 | <Gadi> ok, lets take a step back, cause Im a bit confused:
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| 14:43 | <mrlinux> ok
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| 14:44 | right now i need help setting up the dhcp config
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| 14:44 | <Gadi> you have both fat clients (PCs) and thin clients connected to the thin client switch and the server connected to the switch of the existing network
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| 14:44 | is that right?
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| 14:44 | <mrlinux> ok here is how it is
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| 14:45 | server to this machine (thin server) then from this machine to the clients
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| 14:46 | <Gadi> "server"?
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| 14:46 | <mrlinux> this is a school project
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| 14:46 | <Gadi> you have 2 servers?
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| 14:48 | <mrlinux> the schools server which is on a super net connected to a bunch of routers then from those routers to our computers
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| 14:48 | brb 1 sec
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| 14:51 | <mrlinux> talking to the school tech guy
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| 14:54 | ok my eth0 is connected to the internet but i want my eth1 to connect to the client
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| 14:56 | <Gadi> have you taken a look at: http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
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| 14:57 | once you figure out how it is you want things to connect, you should find everything you need there
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| 14:58 | <mrlinux> ok i am trying the ltsp.org aswell thx anyway
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| 15:05 | <cliebow_> a whole day with no spelling mistakes
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| 15:56 | <mrlinux> exit
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| 19:02 | <rangerpb_shop> ahh the dreaded grey screen of frustration ;)
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| 19:05 | <vagrantc> !greyscreen
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| 19:05 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "greyscreen" is (#1) No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM, or (#2) No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
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| 19:05 | <rangerpb_shop> yep, been reading that
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| 19:05 | past that now and workstation seems to bomb out, X related
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| 19:11 | <otavio> Please, where can I find a document about LTSP history?
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| 19:11 | All references that I found currently doesn't exists anymore since ltsp.org was remanaged.
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| 19:11 | <vagrantc> otavio: debconf talk? :)
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| 19:11 | <rangerpb_shop> any tricks to when a workstation cant seem to find a resolution?
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| 19:12 | <otavio> vagrantc: do you have a pointer for it?
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| 19:12 | vagrantc: how are you doing?
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| 19:12 | * vagrantc looks | |
| 19:12 | <otavio> vagrantc: does it has something about its history? I don't remember
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| 19:13 | <vagrantc> otavio: this is kind of the starting point: http://ltsp.org/longstory.php
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| 19:13 | <otavio> vagrantc: Ah! Nice
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| 19:13 | That works to me
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| 19:13 | vagrantc: thanks a lot ;-)
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| 19:13 | vagrantc: I'm looking for to another long hacking section together with you ;-)
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| 19:13 | <vagrantc> otavio: it was crazy to actually visit the place
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| 19:13 | otavio: i'm hoping i can make it.
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| 19:14 | <otavio> vagrantc: I'm missing your usual fights about project design decisions ;-)
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| 19:14 | vagrantc: and tequila, of course ;-) or even better, cachaca ;-)
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| 19:14 | <vagrantc> otavio: as soon as etch releases, i'll surely be stirring up a lot of crazy new ideas.
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| 19:14 | <otavio> vagrantc: Me too
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| 19:15 | vagrantc: i'm finishing one product here and the next will use most of ltsp on it
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| 19:15 | vagrantc: so I'll be on it with you ;-)
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| 19:15 | <vagrantc> otavio: we got a spanish translation for ltsp, but the review process seems to suffer from the "manyana" syndrome.
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| 19:18 | <otavio> vagrantc: hahah
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| 19:18 | vagrantc: i see
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| 19:18 | <vagrantc> hopefully it will make it into etch.
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| 19:18 | <otavio> vagrantc: will you try to make debconf7?
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| 19:19 | <vagrantc> otavio: i want to. though it's probably only feasible if i get full sponsorship
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| 19:19 | otavio: and even then, i might not be able to.
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| 19:19 | <otavio> vagrantc: really? why?
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| 19:20 | vagrantc: I'll also making it only if I have sponsorship. It won't be possible to me to expend money for it :(
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| 19:20 | <vagrantc> otavio: well, i'm not going to fly half-way around the world only to spend two weeks there. i'd like to go to spain and practice my spanish more :)
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| 19:21 | otavio: if we both make it, we should do a better ltsp talk :)
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| 19:21 | otavio: maybe even sleep the night before and prepare for it :)
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| 19:25 | <otavio> vagrantc: ahah sleep isn't too useful
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| 19:25 | vagrantc: why do you think that sleep is need? ;-)
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| 19:26 | vagrantc: I would like to make a round-table to bring new ideas to ltsp and then improve it during debconf
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| 19:26 | vagrantc: that would be nice
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| 19:26 | <vagrantc> otavio: definitely.
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| 19:27 | otavio: ogra said he'll go.
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| 19:27 | otavio: and i imagine petter will be there.
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| 19:28 | <otavio> vagrantc: oh! great!
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| 19:28 | vagrantc: that would be awesome if you can make it
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| 19:28 | * vagrantc wonders if we'd be able to get some people from the other distro's for 1-2 days. | |
| 19:29 | <otavio> vagrantc: It would be great, indeed.
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| 19:29 | vagrantc: Since you're more active then me, latelly, on LTSP... what's the improvements that you're planing to push after Etch goes out?
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| 19:30 | <vagrantc> otavio: i want to make it possible to install a bare-bones install- no X, no sound, no nothing.
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| 19:31 | otavio: probably also want to get pulseaudio support. seems to be the latest sound fad.
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| 19:31 | otavio: so, basically, we need to implement plugins for the client-side scripts.
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| 19:31 | otavio: split ldm into it's own source package ...
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| 19:31 | <otavio> vagrantc: indeed
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| 19:32 | vagrantc: i would like to try to implement support to work without NFS
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| 19:32 | <vagrantc> otavio: i want to make a cross-architecture debian-installer .udeb
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| 19:32 | <otavio> vagrantc: using a single image file, too
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| 19:32 | <vagrantc> otavio: so that you can network-boot a machine of the appropriate architecture using d-i and then install another arcitecture on the server.
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| 19:32 | otavio: root on NBD ?
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| 19:33 | <otavio> vagrantc: no. Plain initramfs system
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| 19:33 | vagrantc: so we would need to reduce even more the chroot
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| 19:33 | <vagrantc> otavio: that'll be challenging.
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| 19:33 | <otavio> vagrantc: for a bare minimum system
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| 19:33 | vagrantc: yes, it'll
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| 19:33 | vagrantc: but also add a big plus to us
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| 19:33 | <vagrantc> otavio: i'm probably not too interested in that :P
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| 19:33 | <otavio> vagrantc: that's more or less what thinstation support now
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| 19:34 | <vagrantc> right.
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| 19:34 | <otavio> vagrantc: no? why
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| 19:34 | <vagrantc> otavio: i think the only way to make that work is custom-built binaries.
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| 19:34 | <otavio> vagrantc: no. Expecially on Debian where we have a very granullar system
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| 19:35 | vagrantc: we can add just a minimun set of applications on X for example
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| 19:35 | <vagrantc> otavio: it will still be very difficult to get it small enough, i think. but feel free to prove me wrong :)
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| 19:35 | <otavio> vagrantc: let's see
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| 19:35 | vagrantc: but before it I wish to use qemu for cross-arch building
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| 19:36 | vagrantc: chroot building
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| 19:36 | <vagrantc> otavio: i was playing with that just the other day.
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| 19:36 | otavio: i think qemu is a long ways off.
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| 19:37 | otavio: i'm going to dinner... talk more later :)
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| 19:45 | <otavio> ok
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| 19:45 | bye
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| 20:11 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 20:13 | <rjune> hey jim
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| 20:14 | <jammcq> hey rjune
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| 20:14 | <cliebow> hey and Hey
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| 20:14 | <rjune> howdy cliebow_
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| 20:14 | howdy cliebow
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| 20:16 | <cliebow> i leave a amachine on at school so i donr miss a word
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| 20:16 | and one qaat home so i dont miss a word
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| 20:18 | <rjune> LOL
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| 20:21 | <cliebow> this is my social lifwe
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| 20:21 | <rjune> heh
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| 20:21 | line forms tot he left
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| 20:24 | <cliebow> 8~)
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| 20:25 | you buildinng anything exciting?
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| 20:28 | <rjune> only a DB to generate documentation
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| 20:29 | <LeTaL> alguem me ajuda como gravar eprom para boot em rtl8139
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| 20:29 | ?
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| 20:30 | <cliebow> have any english? trying to build a bootrom for etherboot?
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| 20:37 | get the pci id..
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| 20:37 | there are diiferent images based on pci id
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| 20:43 | <LeTaL> o gravador so consegue gravar em formato .bin
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| 20:43 | nao grava em formato .zrom
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| 20:43 | :/
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| 20:44 | como mudar de .zrom p/ .bin?
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| 20:50 | <cliebow> if you are using a prom you want a .zrom image
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| 20:51 | brazil?
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| 21:10 | <LeTaL> yes
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| 21:10 | cliebow, o gravador so grava em formato .bin
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| 21:10 | vo traduzir no google
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| 21:11 | <cliebow> perhaps one of our Brazilian speakers will chime in
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| 21:11 | <LeTaL> cliebow, the Recorder of eprom so records in the format .bin, as makes pra to move of zrom for bin?
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| 21:13 | <cliebow> sorry..i cant understand...i must sleep
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| 21:14 | <LeTaL> cliebow, ok
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| 21:46 | <PMantis> Anyone have a script to get the *current* leases of a DHCP server?
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| 21:47 | dhcp.leases seems to list every client that ever connected. Some show expirations 2-3 years ago.
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| 21:51 | <rjune> nice
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| 21:53 | <PMantis> no, inconvenient
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| 21:54 | oh well...
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| 21:54 | Maybe a bash script can help
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| 22:11 | <chupacabra> delete it and let it fill back up
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| 22:11 | * chupacabra does it "his" way. | |
| 22:12 | * chupacabra goes back to RTFM about wine | |
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| 22:56 | <chupacabra> lol
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