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Channel log from 7 June 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:23 | <allanix> hi
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| 04:03 | <generic> hi all i want to mount my thin client with local cdrom and local disk
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| 04:03 | what i have to do ?
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| 04:23 | helo
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| 04:23 | guys
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| 04:23 | any idea?
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| 04:56 | <laga> generic: cdrom should work out of the box on ubuntu..
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| 04:59 | <generic> well my is not working
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| 04:59 | and also usb
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| 04:59 | i just did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
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| 04:59 | sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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| 04:59 | udo ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 04:59 | udo aptitude install nfs-kernel-server
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| 04:59 | sudo aptitude install ltspfsd
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| 05:00 | sudo aptitude install dhcp3-server
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| 05:00 | and thats it
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| 05:00 | whats wrong in that
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| 05:00 | any idea
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| 05:00 | my usb and cdrom on thin client not working
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| 05:01 | <laga> i have no idea what's wrong, but you don't need ltspfsd on the server
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| 05:01 | nfs-kernel-server is also not needed on a standard setup
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| 05:02 | <generic> then
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| 05:02 | what i should need to check
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| 05:02 | also i am booting thin client gives me initramfs error
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| 05:02 | what this mean
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| 05:03 | plz help its urgent
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| 05:04 | <laga> no. nobody can help you if you don't provide the exact error message.
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| 05:08 | <generic> well see wehan i boot thin client it gets ip and load image then kubuntu screen comes and suddenly it becomes blank saying initamfs and a prompt
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| 05:09 | error connect : connection refuse
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| 05:09 | mount:mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed invalid argumnet
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| 05:10 | target file system doesn't have /sbin/init
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| 05:11 | file name :/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 error connect : connection refuse
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| 05:11 | what this mean
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| 05:14 | helo laga?
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| 05:15 | <laga> hum
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| 05:15 | if i had to wager a guess, i'd say that it can't connect to the nbd server.
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| 05:16 | does that happen on all thin clients?
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| 05:19 | <generic> yes
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| 05:19 | nbd why not
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| 05:20 | i just do default intsall
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| 05:20 | <laga> alright, so none of your thin clients are booting?
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| 06:56 | <laga> ogra-ume: thanks for maintaining libflashsupport. a friend of mine didnt have sound on youtube, installed the package and all is well now
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| 10:17 | <empiric> hi all
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| 10:17 | my nmbd is not working ny idea?
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| 10:18 | i got a blank screen when my thin clients boots after getting ip and loading image
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| 10:19 | any idea?
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| 10:20 | it says initrfms
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| 10:26 | helo
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| 10:26 | ?
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| 12:48 | <joebaker> Just Upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 of Edubuntu. I seem to not have TFTP running on the server. Do I need to install xinetd?
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| 12:49 | <laga> no, openbsd-inetd is what's used.
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| 12:49 | ltsp-server should have pulled that in
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| 12:49 | <joebaker> thanks. I'll check into that.
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| 12:50 | It is running.
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| 12:50 | Checking configuration
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| 12:51 | The inetd.conf file lists the port number for tftp as "tftp"
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| 12:52 | etc/services says it should be port 69. I'll try modifying that.
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| 12:53 | <laga> um
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| 12:53 | why?
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| 12:53 | <joebaker> I have also executed ufw disable just in case the firewall was stopping access.
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| 12:54 | Changing tftp to 69 in the inetd.conf config file didn't help.
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| 12:54 | I followed instructions here to do the upgrade of LTSP: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-updates.html
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| 12:55 | <laga> what exactly is the problem?
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| 12:56 | <joebaker> Client acquires dhcp, then indicates PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout... TFTP....
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| 12:58 | <laga> interesting..
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| 12:58 | maybe restart the ftp server?
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| 12:58 | <joebaker> Then it says PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM.
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| 12:58 | Boot Failure: System Halted
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| 12:59 | <laga> err, inetd
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| 12:59 | <joebaker> I tried that.
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| 12:59 | Trying again.
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| 13:00 | <laga> maybe there are some hints in /var/log/daemon.log
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| 13:00 | <joebaker> This is not a huge deployment.
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| 13:00 | I will check that log.
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| 13:01 | Only dhcpd messages there.
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| 13:03 | <laga> then i'm out of ideas :(
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| 13:03 | maybe someone else knows more
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| 13:03 | <joebaker> Thanks. I am checking if the tftpd command is actually installed.
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| 13:03 | It wasn't
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| 13:03 | <laga> it's in the tftpd-hpa package
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| 13:04 | <joebaker> Oops! Removing ltsp-server-standalone ...
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| 13:04 | Removing ltsp-server ...
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| 13:04 | Removing tftpd-hpa ...
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| 13:04 | <laga> umm.. yeah. :)
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| 13:04 | <joebaker> Thanks. I' ll put it back
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| 13:04 | what does 'hpa' stand for?
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| 13:05 | <laga> Description: HPA's tftp server
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| 13:05 | ;)
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| 13:05 | i think HPA is the guy who wrote pxelinux
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| 13:07 | <joebaker> My ps command shows this:
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| 13:07 | /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 13:09 | I'm killing off those processes and running it from the command line to see if I get any logging info to stdout.
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| 13:09 | Nothing reported.
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| 13:10 | It might be better to migrate to tinydns in the future to integrate dns, dhcp & tftpd all into one package.
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| 13:10 | <laga> dnsmasq can do that, too :)
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| 13:12 | <joebaker> That's the one I meant.
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| 13:14 | Even adding -v to the in.tftpd command yeilds nothing from the tftpd's verbose output. I wonder if dhcpd is directing tftp to the right server?
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| 13:15 | Is this line still necessary with LDM?
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| 13:15 | option root-path "192.168.1.63:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 13:16 | <laga> check your dhcpd.conf for the next-server directive then
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| 13:16 | not sure, i dont use those parts of LTSP
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| 13:16 | <joebaker> next-server 192.168.1.63;
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| 13:16 | This is the IP of the LTSP server.
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| 13:16 | <laga> hum
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| 13:16 | try commenting out that part?
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| 13:17 | <joebaker> I found it - maybe.
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| 13:18 | This box has two nic cards. They both have the same IP address after the upgrade.
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| 13:20 | laga: Thanks for your help. I think this will require me to reboot after I shut down the other NIC from automatically starting. I'll look at the route commands. I thought it was odd that I could not ping the gateway router, but I can get out to the Internet.
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| 13:20 | I can ping the router after performing ifdown eth1
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| 13:20 | <laga> sounds like an ugly problem :)
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| 14:23 | <jammcq> so, how's everybody?
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| 14:24 | <dberkholz> busy working on a saturday. =\
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| 14:38 | <jammcq> ogra: ping
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| 14:38 | yup
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| 14:38 | oops :)
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| 15:28 | <majikins> hello I'm tryin to find out about 'fat' clients and how they work
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| 15:29 | we wan to run flash intensive site with some movies
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| 15:29 | its been suggested that it maybe best to get thin clients that can run firefox locally with all the add-ons
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| 15:31 | can someone comment on this please?
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| 15:32 | <vagrantc> !question
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| 15:32 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "question" is if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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| 15:32 | <majikins> um sorry - we still in investigation
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| 15:33 | looking to use ubuntu 8.04 with ltsp5 in repositories
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| 15:33 | its actually for a school
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| 15:33 | the material they will access is lessons in flash and mpeg
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| 15:35 | <stgraber> do they need the standard desktop or only firefox+flash ?
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| 15:36 | <majikins> they will need to use openoffice and access the usual educational programs available in edubuntu
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| 15:36 | we looking to put this server side
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| 15:37 | but my question is about the 'fat' client running firefox with flash plugin etc
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| 15:37 | <stgraber> how powerful are your clients ? are they thin clients or standard workstations ? (just trying to see if fat clients are an option for you)
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| 15:37 | <majikins> we have not bought any equipment yet - still in investigation stage
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| 15:38 | how does this 'fat' client configuraton work?
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| 15:39 | <majikins> I have done some googling and have found some thin-clients that run firefox locally
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| 15:40 | is there a configuration option for the server tot recognise that it can send the compressed flash down to the client to decompress?
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| 15:41 | how does t
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| 15:42 | how does the firefox icon integrate onto the displayed screen on the terminal?
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| 15:43 | hello?
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| 15:47 | <warren> majikins: if you need flash and mpeg then you must run those as local applications
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| 15:47 | there's no way around that
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| 15:52 | <majikins> warren: what is the recommended thin clients for that and where can I read up to configure the server for that setup?
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| 15:52 | warren: we are looking at hp thin clients
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| 15:52 | <warren> that isn't an easy question, sorry.
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| 15:52 | I have no experience using HP thin clients
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| 15:56 | <majikins> um ok - what thin clients do you use that run firefox locally?
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> majikins: there's a proof of concept for running individual applications locally, but there is a lot of work left to do to make it viable.
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| 16:04 | majikins: it's easier, though not trivial, to run all applications locally, if your thin-client hardware is good enough. it would basically need to be just as good as a standalone desktop, except with more ram, probably.
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| 16:05 | <majikins> vagrantc : thank you for the information - thats why I was probably not getting much info while search google
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| 17:03 | <alkis1> Hi, if my ssh keys are wrong can I somehow fix it on the fly on a client by switching to the console, login as root and enter some commands?
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| 17:04 | (I mean temporarily, just to log on once or for diagnostic purposes, I know about ltsp-update-sshkeys)
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| 17:05 | <johnny> it would have to be done for every client, but i think it would work
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| 17:05 | <alkis1> johnny, just for 1 client, I have some problems with virtualbox with NAT networking
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| 17:06 | and I'm not sure if it uses 127.0.0.1 to communicate with the host. What commands should I give?
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| 17:09 | Symptoms: I try to login, I *don't* see any error messages in ldm (nor in /var/log/ldm.log), but after 2-3 seconds X is restarted and I see ldm again...
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| 17:10 | I can logon from the client console using "ssh -l username server" and saying "yes" to the ssh prompt about accepting the key
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| 17:11 | It worked OK yesterday, I installed firefox to the chroot and updated the image, and now I can't logon! :(
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| 18:27 | <alexfire> si
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| 19:28 | <alexfire> !ltsp
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| 19:28 | <ltspbot`> alexfire: "ltsp" is LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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