IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 19 July 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:56 | <maldridge> which do you guys think will work first, uefi pxe, or ipv6 pxe
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| 04:22 | <gehidore> yes
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| 04:52 | <maldridge> taking the safe bet gehidore
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| 05:02 | <gehidore> maldridge: always :D
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| 05:44 | <Csernay> Thanks for your answer ! But sadly i cannot use legacy, my hardware doesn't allow it (Zotac pico mini). But i'm not far to find the solution (I Think...). I've configured tftp to serve an efi-bootloader and my Zotac see it :-D Surely the Problem is to giv the right file (32 or 64 bits efi), because the Zotac has a 32 bits efi and i tried with the 64bits....
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| 05:49 | I'm not really sure that i cannotuse legagacy but i've tried every possibility in the "BIOS" settings and i cannot disable the UEFI. Have I miss something ? Or are there Haddware only UEFI ? Are the new Hardware so ?
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| 05:50 | for example, on a Mac.. Can we use legacy BIOS on a mac ?
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| 06:08 | <maldridge> Csernay: sort of, macs have thier own special flavor of pxe that can be used to install the os. I'm not aware of any FOSS projects using it though
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| 06:08 | ofc, newer macs use uefi
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| 06:12 | <Csernay> Mac was only an example (for me) of Hardware that cannot use legacy (I suppose).. I don't have a Mac, but People tell me to disable the UEFI and use the legacy Mode, but it is not possible on my Hardware (Zotac pico mini). I have to understand how to serve via TFT an UEFI-PC. At this point, I think I could connect the server and the UEFI-diskless but my Problem is to give the right 32 bits bootloader in the TFT server..
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| 06:15 | With my new configuration of dhcpd.conf, my UEFI now recognize that there is a connection. Before the configuration of dhcpd.conf my UEFI was looking without finding a connection. Now the connection is made but my diskless says Unable to fetch the TFTP Image. I think the image is innapropriate and i?m lokking how to create a 32 bits bootloader that my UEFI-PC would accept...
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| 07:24 | <maldridge> Csernay: you could compile grub2 for 32bits, but I don't think there are built versions that target that architecture
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| 07:32 | <Csernay> Oh... That's what I wanted to try.. Try tomorrow... Thanks for your Advice and your attention !
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| 08:50 | <work_alkisg> http://liliputing.com/2014/10/run-ubuntu-zotac-zbox-pico-mini-pc-kinda.html
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| 08:51 | <work_alkisg> There's a 32-bit grub build there
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| 08:52 | But for netbooting, distros do ship 32bit versions of efi grub
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| 08:55 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/i386/grub-efi-ia32-bin/filelist
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| 08:58 | <work_alkisg> My notes for uefi/ltsp: http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2015-05-14
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| 08:59 | <work_alkisg> http://mg.debian.net/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ has bootnetia32.efi
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| 08:59 | That should be enough to load an 32 or 64 bit kernel over the network under a 32bit uefi environment
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| 15:14 | <nahoskins> seems like ive been in here quite a lot the last week
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| 15:14 | i just took stock of 15 rasberry pis
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| 15:14 | checked out pi net
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| 15:15 | and low and behold im told to check out this channel again!
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| 15:15 | i've had issues with some computers in my network
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| 15:15 | and was looking to replace them with pis
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| 15:16 | my biggest limitation is I really use minecraftedu quite extensively
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| 15:16 | and i know it needs 2GB minimum
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| 15:16 | is it possible to virutalise memory over a network?
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| 15:17 | something like a thin/fat client
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| 15:17 | chubby client?
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| 15:18 | a lot of my current stations are using less than 2 GB as is
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| 15:18 | (very old donationware)
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| 15:18 | so if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it
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| 15:18 | I'm currently seriously considering harvesting memory from the server for some of the clients
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| 15:19 | but for those who have seen me here in the last couple weeks, you may understand my reluctance to mess with it now that it "works"
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| 15:19 | (minus some odd cases where running applications causes reboots...)
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| 15:20 | (I think this has to do with the switch I am using
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> hah. even an rpi2 only has 1GB of ram... can't imagine network swap would e anything but painful
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| 17:06 | <gehidore> 'well yeah
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| 17:06 | swap on Loopback is bad enough
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| 17:07 | you'd be better to put swap on each machine on a sd card imho... then setup the fatclient to use that...
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| 17:07 | even if you burn thru sd cards like mad... probably still run better than over network
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| 23:24 | <talntid> is the ltsp project mostly dead? i don't ever see any real updates on it.. ?
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| 23:39 | <vagrantc> it isn't tremendously active, no.
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| 23:40 | there are bugfixes here and there, as people scratch what itches they want fixed
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| 23:40 | there are grandiose plans to move towards some ideas we'd call LTSP6
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| 23:45 | <talntid> hmm I see
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