IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 26 July 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:09 | <collecram> good morning
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| 06:10 | <collecram> I have a question, is it possible to add LTSP using distro Linux Mint
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| 06:11 | how hard is it?
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| 06:25 | anyone here
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| 06:30 | <alkisg> collecram: yes, it is possible to install ltsp on mint
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| 06:30 | !ubuntu-mate
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| 06:30 | <ltsp> ubuntu-mate: Ubuntu-mate works very well with LTSP, even with older clients. Download the 64-bit version if *all* your clients have >= 2GB RAM, otherwise download the 32-bit version. http://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
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| 06:31 | <alkisg> Mate is better :D but if you want mint, ltsp should work there as well
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| 06:32 | * collecram ubuntu mate? | |
| 06:32 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:32 | * collecram how do I add the LTSP files to a distro? | |
| 06:32 | <alkisg> If you write /me in front of a line, it means that you're talking to yourself
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| 06:33 | Don't write /me
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| 06:33 | Linux mint already has ltsp
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| 06:33 | You just need to run apt install ltsp-server etc
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| 06:33 | <collecram> kkkkkkk it's been awhile
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 06:33 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> This is a good guide to help you setup ltsp
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| 06:33 | It should work in mint as well
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| 06:33 | <collecram> sudo apt-get ltsp-server
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| 06:34 | <alkisg> "etc"
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| 06:34 | That means that more steps are needed
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| 06:34 | Installing ltsp-server is not enough
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| 06:34 | Read the page that I linked, ltsp-pn
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| 06:34 | p
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| 06:34 | <collecram> all right, this irc chat room took me back to my teens
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| 06:35 | <alkisg> How many clients do you want to boot with ltsp?
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| 06:35 | <collecram> about 10
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| 06:36 | <alkisg> How much ram do they have, and what cpu?
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| 06:36 | <collecram> 512mb
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| 06:36 | pentium 4
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| 06:36 | <alkisg> Hmm it's in the threshold... do you know which pentium 4? E.g. at 1.7 GHz or at 3.0 GHz?
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| 06:37 | <collecram> I have a server with 8gb of RAM and HD with 500gb
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| 06:37 | <alkisg> (in order to propose a different method of installing ltsp)
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| 06:37 | <collecram> 2.5Ghz hiperthred
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| 06:37 | <alkisg> Cool
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| 06:38 | So, I propose that you try ubuntu-mate, not mint, because cinnamon is slow and doesn't work with thin clients
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| 06:38 | And, I propose that you buy more RAM so that each client has e.g. 1 GB RAM, so that they run the apps with their own cpu/ram, it'll go better that way
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| 06:39 | <collecram> all right, I'll look into ubuntu mate, my staff is used to linux mint
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> If you can't buy ram, I propose that you split the ram so that half of the clients have 768 ram and run the os with their own cpu (which is called ltsp fat client) and the others 256 and run it on the server (which is called thin clients)
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| 06:39 | <collecram> using the mate version
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> Do you already have mint installed on the server?
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| 06:40 | <collecram> Yes i have
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> OK then just follow the ltsp-pnp steps, don't try mate yet
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| 06:40 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 06:40 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 06:40 | <collecram> I can add 1gb of RAM
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| 06:40 | on the clients
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> That'll be the best.
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| 06:41 | <collecram> this way it will be diskless?
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| 06:41 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:42 | <collecram> PXE boot via cable
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| 06:42 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 06:42 | Is it mint that corresponds to ubuntu 16.04, or older?
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| 06:42 | <collecram> there's no way to do over wireless?
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| 06:42 | it's the last distro Sarah
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| 06:43 | <alkisg> It's possible to do it over wireless, but wireless will be so slow that you'll wish that you wouldn't have done it
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| 06:43 | <collecram> Yeah, lets break the cables
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| 06:44 | but it will be all right I hope
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| 08:32 | <dimss> i use guidelines https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp. pxe does not work for my client
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| 08:35 | <alkisg> dimss: what's the error message?
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| 08:35 | And which Ubuntu version are you using?
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| 08:36 | <dim--> hi alkis i use ubuntu 16.04
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| 08:37 | <alkisg> dim--: and what's the error message that you see on the client?
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| 08:38 | <dim--> just a moment please to plug everything again
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| 08:45 | var/log/syslog on the server says dnsmasq-dhcp PXE laptop mac address proxy
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| 08:46 | <dim--> laptop says client mac addr guid DHCP ......
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| 08:49 | <alkisg> dim--: and then? I assume it doesn't hang there...
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| 08:50 | <dim--> laptop hangs there alkisg
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| 08:50 | it restarts actually alkisg
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> Doesn't it write another line before restarting?
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| 08:52 | Like, "no dhcp or proxydhcp offers"?
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| 08:53 | dim--: and, what's the output of this line? grep -r interfaces /etc/dnsmasq.d
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| 08:55 | <dim--> tell any system-wide dnsmasq instance to make sure to bind interfaces
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| 08:55 | bind interfaces
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| 08:56 | <alkisg> dim--: comment it out with a # in front of #bind-interfaces, and run sudo service dnsmasq restart
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| 08:56 | See if that helps
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| 08:56 | <dim--> from network manager and ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf
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| 09:03 | <dim--> alkisg it has the same behavior
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| 09:04 | <alkisg> dim--: sorry I don't have much time to check via irc whatever possibly is wrong, do you want me to help via vnc?
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| 09:04 | !vnc-dide
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| 09:04 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> dim--: do you have a dhcp server, e.g. a router?
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| 09:09 | <dim--> no
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| 09:09 | alkisg
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| 09:09 | <alkisg> dim--: then proxydhcp is not appropriate for you, you should use a real dhcp
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| 09:10 | Describe your network please
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| 09:10 | Do you have many clients with static ip addresses etc?
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| 09:10 | E.g. how come you're not just using a router as the dhcp server?
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| 09:10 | <dim--> alkisg yes we use static ip addresses
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| 09:10 | <alkisg> dim--: are you greek?
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| 09:11 | <dim--> alkisg yes
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| 09:11 | <alkisg> Then type this to join the greek channel: /join #ts.sch.gr
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