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01:58 | <gnunux> bonjour
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01:58 | bonjour
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02:04 | <alkisg> Καλημέρα :)
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02:06 | <Mava> huomenta
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02:06 | :) oops
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02:12 | <alkisg> Yey! Teacher screen broadcasting works fine on 64Mb clients too! iTalc, RIP :)
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02:12 | <Appiah> which tool?
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02:13 | <alkisg> My own, sch-scripts...
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02:14 | Behind the gui it's just using x11vnc + xvnc4viewer, though, so it's possible to script it even without my tool...
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02:14 | (works 10 times faster than iTalc too - I'm not using encryption though as I don't want it)
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02:15 | http://wiki.ubuntu-gr.org/sch-scripts/screenshots
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02:17 | <Appiah> oh , easy to read too :D
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02:19 | <alkisg> :P
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02:19 | <Appiah> what's sch?
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02:24 | <alkisg> short for "school"
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02:24 | <ogra> damned, we all need to learn greek now !
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02:25 | <alkisg> :P nah just a developer with a little time in his hands is needed, to generalize it
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02:25 | <ogra> :)
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02:25 | <alkisg> Those reverse shell connections make a very good network backend (the server is in python/twisted)
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02:26 | There are notifications and reverse shell for every user or client that is connected to the server..
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02:27 | ..with just 1 mb of ram needed on each client, so that the minimum requirements are kept at 64MB ram
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02:28 | <Appiah> aah
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02:29 | did you get your hands on a 64MB client? or did you figure out the kernel parameters?
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02:29 | <alkisg> Appiah: what do you mean? I'm currently in a lab of 64mb clients...
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02:30 | <Appiah> ?
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02:31 | <Appiah> welcome back :)
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02:31 | <Appiah> >_>
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02:31 | <Appiah> alkisg: :)
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02:31 | <alkisg> sorry, had to change my ip
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02:32 | (i lost any answers)
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02:32 | <Appiah> well I remeber some days ago you were trying limit a client to 64mb
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02:32 | with kernel parameters
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02:32 | but you ended up with crashes?
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02:32 | <alkisg> Ah no, these are real clients
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02:33 | I couldn't make it work with mem=xxx and memmap=xxx
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02:33 | <Appiah> oh
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02:33 | well your solution looks neat, is it something we get to try out soon? :)
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02:34 | <alkisg> Nope, I've started my phd so I won't have time to make an upstream project out of it for the next 2 years
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02:34 | If some developer is interested though, I'm more than willing to help...
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02:35 | After 2 years, sure, I'll do it myself...
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02:36 | <Appiah> Oh ok
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02:36 | if I only knew how to write code...
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06:03 | <frantah> hello, know anyone current status of LTSP, and particularly its status in Fedora? I read sometime in february at stgraber.org about 5.2. But on Fedora sites it appears as in past 0.5 year there isnt any progres and month ago released Fedora 13 contain ltsp 5.1.95 (which furthermore isn't buildable on it).
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06:06 | * alkisg has never used Fedora but thinks that Warren stopped working on LTSP for quite some time now... so maybe a new Fedora LTSP maintainer should pick it up. | |
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06:18 | <frantah> it sounds likely. I found last Warrens contribution to mailing list last year in august.
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06:37 | <frantah> But, when www.lstp.org not contain ltsp 5x code, is there some source of actual stable or development code? I should like try it in Fedora 13...
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06:38 | <alkisg> !ltsp-source
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06:38 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "ltsp-source" :: at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files
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06:40 | <alkisg> If you have bazaar install, you can get the code by: bzr branch lp:ltsp-trunk
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07:15 | <rickogden> hi, can anyone here explain to me what the nbd-server is doing with the LTSP thin client?
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07:22 | <frantah> alkisg: I just install bzr-2.1.1. But cmd "bzr branch lp:ltsp-trunk" return error "bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:ltsp-trunk": No such project: ltsp-trunk". What i'm doing bad?
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07:22 | <alkisg> rickogden: it's providing the network disk from which the client boots
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07:22 | frantah: I'm not sure, maybe lp: is an ubuntu extension for bzr which isn't included by default on fedora? You'll have to google it a bit.
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07:23 | <rickogden> alkisg: I keep on getting the error Failed to connect to NBD server... should there be something running on the Ubuntu TS which I can check?
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07:23 | <alkisg> rickogden: either the nbd server isn't running, or your dhcp server is pointing your client to the wrong server
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07:24 | Is that ubuntu? Which version?
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07:24 | <rickogden> 10.04
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07:24 | <alkisg> Ok, run some checks:
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07:24 | grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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07:24 | <rickogden> I've specified it in the pxelinux.cfg/default
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07:25 | <alkisg> Let's take all the routine checks, it'll be faster. Give the command above on your server, then paste the output here.
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07:25 | <rickogden> 9572 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/
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07:25 | wapd
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07:25 | 2002 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd
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07:25 | /ltsp/images/i386.img
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07:26 | I should tell you at this point, I'm not using standard LTSP setup... I'm using gpxe
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07:26 | <alkisg> Ah, 2002. Weird port. OK, next: sudo netstat -nap | grep :2002
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07:26 | It doesn't matter, gpxe is the same as pxe.
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07:27 | <rickogden> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2002 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
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07:27 | /inetd
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07:27 | and it has a few established from localhost
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07:27 | <alkisg> OK, next: grep nbd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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07:28 | <rickogden> nbdport=2002
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07:28 | I've also specified the nbdroot as well
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07:28 | <alkisg> Wait, is that the whole line?
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07:28 | nbdport=2002?
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07:29 | <rickogden> append ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash nbdport=2002 nbdroot=146.87.119.32
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07:29 | <alkisg> OK. Next, ls -l /ltsp/images/i386.img
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07:29 | (I guess that's "file not found")
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07:30 | <rickogden> correct
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07:30 | the dir /ltsp doesn't exist
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07:30 | <alkisg> Did you paste the line above or did you mistype it? This one:
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07:30 | (03:30:26 μμ) rickogden: 2002 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd
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07:30 | (03:30:26 μμ) rickogden: /ltsp/images/i386.img
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07:30 | There's an "/opt" missing there.
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07:31 | <rickogden> yes it's in /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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07:32 | <alkisg> But is /etc/inetd.conf correct? Or is it pointing to the wrong file?
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07:32 | <rickogden> ahh, I see
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07:33 | yes, it's pointing to the right directory in inetd.conf
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07:33 | <dobber_> i think his irc client cuts some letters
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07:33 | <rickogden> I just don't think IRC liked the fact the line started with /
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07:34 | * alkisg thinks it was a copy/paste error :) | |
07:34 | <alkisg> Ah, maybe that too
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07:34 | OK, moving on. In the client, do you get a busybox shell?
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07:34 | <rickogden> alkisg: yes
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07:35 | <alkisg> Try this in that shell: nbd-client 146.87.119.32 2002 /dev/nbd0
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07:36 | <rickogden> it connects, then comes up with "unknwon partition table"
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07:36 | <alkisg> Is your client too fast? E.g. core 2 duo or something?
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07:36 | <rickogden> haha... yes
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07:36 | 3ghz core2duo, 4gb RAM
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07:36 | <alkisg> Right... ok, a last check. In pxelinux.cfg/default, put a break=mount right next to "quiet splash"
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07:36 | Reboot the client. You'll get a busybox shell again.
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07:37 | Wait 5 seconds. Then press ctrl+d (=exit from the shell). If I'm right, the client should boot normally.
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07:41 | <rickogden> it goes to running scripts/nfs-top
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07:41 | <rickogden> then it says server closed connection
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07:42 | alkisg: should I monitor netstat while it's booting?
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07:42 | <alkisg> Can you paste your pxelinux.cfg/default file to pastebin?
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07:42 | !pastebot
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07:42 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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07:42 | * alkisg has to leave in 2 minutes... | |
07:42 | <rickogden> ok, np
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07:43 | thanks for your help anyway
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07:43 | <frantah> i found form with slashes: "bzr branch lp:///ltsp-trunk". But it give other error: "bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:///ltsp-trunk": No such project: ltsp-trunk". And cmd "bzr branch lp:///ltsp" return: "bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:///ltsp": LTSP has no default branch.". Any idea?
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07:43 | <alkisg> rickogden: did you paste that file?
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07:44 | <rickogden> alkisg: not yet, just ssh'ing into the server
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07:46 | http://ltsp.pastebin.com/tFDC51Vu
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07:46 | oops, nbdport is there twice
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07:47 | <alkisg> And also there's something missing 146.87.:255.255.255.0
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07:48 | Anyway, be back in 2 hours. Bye.
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07:48 | <rickogden> that's less messing up, it's there in the file
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07:48 | thanks alkisg!
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09:07 | <rad4Christ> Good morning! I know most of you guys idle in ed/ubuntu, but I'm not getting any assistance there. Does anyone know why a user setup with sabayon (User Profile Editor) works as a client, then quits working and returns to the fully default gnome? Seems to happen if I change the session at login, but also does it on its own.
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09:20 | <alkisg> rickogden: did you fix it?
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09:21 | <rickogden> alkisg: unfortunately not, I feel that I'm closer to diagnosing the problem
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09:22 | <alkisg> Can you post your current pxelinux.cfg/default?
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09:22 | <rickogden> the problem is I have a very non-standard set up
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09:22 | <alkisg> Nah, it's what I use every day :)
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09:23 | <rickogden> alkisg: I've stopped using the pxelinux.cfg file for now, and I'm trying to load the kermel/ramdisk manually using gpxe
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09:23 | but it's coming up with the same error
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09:23 | <alkisg> OK, that will just take much more typing.
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09:24 | rickogden: it's probably the error with the recent CPU, so don't waste too much time trying kernel parameters
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09:24 | <rickogden> http://demeter.cs.salford.ac.uk/boot/boot.php <-- that's my current boot file
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09:24 | I do a dhcp net0, then chain to that
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09:25 | <alkisg> You can also put dhcp net0 into that script
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09:25 | Try joining nbdroot and port to: nbdroot=146.87.119.32:2002
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09:25 | <rickogden> it needs an IP/default gateway before it can obtain that over HTTP
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09:25 | <alkisg> #!gpxe
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09:25 | dhcp net0
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09:25 | set next-server 1.2.3.4
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09:25 | kernel ...
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09:26 | Anyway, no problem there - try joining the nbdroot/port
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09:26 | <rickogden> will do
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09:29 | <alkisg> (remember that with break=mount, it *won't* boot - it'll give you a busybox shell before trying to mount nbd...)
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09:29 | (so if you wait 5 seconds there, and then press ctrl+d, then it should boot)
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09:30 | <rickogden> alkisg: you're a genius! I can't login for some reason, but I have a gui boot screen
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09:30 | <alkisg> Try ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image
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09:31 | <alkisg> (what fixed it? the ctrl+d or the nbdroot joining?)
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09:31 | <rickogden> nbdroot
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09:32 | <alkisg> Hrm you should file a bug about that
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09:33 | <rickogden> alkisg: good point, also I might respond to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473451
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09:34 | <alkisg> Most developers don't watch the forums, though, so that (even if it helps some people) won't solve the problem upstream.
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09:35 | Btw tell them that "dpkg-reconfigure nbd-server" is *not needed* :D
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09:36 | <rickogden> alkisg: I've already been through
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09:36 | that
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09:36 | also, if I take out the break, it stops working again
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09:36 | is there a way of getting it to wait?
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09:36 | <alkisg> That's a second bug you should file :)
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09:37 | File it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp: "udhcp is in init-premount while it should be in nfs-premount". For details, see `man initramfs-tools`.
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09:38 | If you're willing to test some stuff, I may try to come up with some solutions. But I can't test myself because I don't have a client fast enough to reproduce the problem/.
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09:39 | <rickogden> alkisg: sure!
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09:39 | * Gadi find himself adding lots of "while foo does not work, try again bec bar is not ready yet" loops these days | |
09:39 | <Gadi> :)
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09:39 | <alkisg> Heh
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09:42 | <rickogden> hmm... still can't login
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09:42 | I presume it should just use the same logins you can locally?
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09:42 | <alkisg> Did you update the ssh keys and the image? Yes, use the same usernames/passwords that you use for server logins
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09:42 | <rickogden> (I've never gotten this far before)
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09:42 | I did update the ssh keys and image
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09:43 | <alkisg> Is your server on the same subnet?
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09:43 | <rickogden> alkisg: no
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09:43 | <alkisg> Can you post your current lts.conf, if you have one?
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09:44 | <rickogden> if I have one, where will it be? It doesn't seem to be in /etc or /etc/ltsp?
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09:44 | <alkisg> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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09:44 | <rickogden> I don't seem to have one
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09:44 | <alkisg> OK, create one, with the following contents:
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09:44 | [Default]
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09:44 | SCREEN_02=shell
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09:44 | SCREEN_07=ldm
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09:45 | Reboot the client. Switch to vt2 with alt+ctrl+f2
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09:45 | Then type the following command: ssh user@server
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09:45 | Replace "user" with an existing username. *Don't* replace the word "server".
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09:45 | See if you can login, and if you're prompted for invalid keys or anything.
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09:49 | <rickogden> vt2 is a blank screen with a flashing cursor that doesn't move when I type
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09:50 | <alkisg> Do you have an i386 chroot?
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09:50 | <rickogden> vt1 is there
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09:50 | <alkisg> Or an an amd64?
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09:50 | <rickogden> but it requires a login (which isn't working)
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09:50 | I'm using i386
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09:50 | <alkisg> On the server too?
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09:51 | <rickogden> the server is arch64
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09:51 | but when I built the image I did --arch i386
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09:51 | for this reason
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09:51 | <alkisg> And you booted with that gpxe script, right?
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09:51 | <rickogden> yes
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09:52 | <alkisg> Can you paste your lts.conf?
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09:52 | (maybe some typo...)
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09:52 | <rickogden> [Default]
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09:52 | SCREEN_02=shell
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09:52 | SCREEN_07=ldm
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09:53 | I don't need to rebuild the image do I?
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09:56 | <alkisg> Νοπε
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09:56 | <rickogden> alkisg: any ideas?
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09:56 | <alkisg> Nope
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09:57 | It seems that it isn't reading lts.conf, while it should.
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09:57 | <rickogden> do I need to specify in my gpxe script?
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09:57 | <alkisg> First, try creating a symlink to lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf
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09:57 | If that doesn't work, unlock the chroot root account to get a shell in vt1
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09:58 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UnlockChrootRootAcct
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09:59 | <rickogden> ahh! There is already a symlink called lts.conf in tftpboot
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10:00 | <rickogden> it would probably help if users other than root could read the lts.conf wouldn't it... *woops*
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10:02 | <alkisg> Heh - how did that happen?
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10:04 | <rickogden> with this machine being a terminal server, it's very locked down
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10:05 | now I'm getting an error on the screen: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)
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10:08 | <rickogden> alkisg: are you sure it's getting the file, since I've not specified for it to be retrieved
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10:08 | <alkisg> rickogden: the clients automatically try to download lts.conf with tftp from that location
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10:09 | (verify that the client do have tftp access, if you're using any weird tftp setup)
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10:09 | <rickogden> even when I'm specifying the kernel and initrd manually
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10:09 | <alkisg> Yes, if no "boot filename" dhcp directive is used, then the default path "/ltsp/i386/lts.conf" is used instead.
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10:09 | *is received..
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10:09 | <rickogden> they do as they've already downloaded the vmlinuz and initrd
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10:10 | <alkisg> OK, but you could e.g. use a different server for vmlinuz.
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10:10 | (you do have a weird setup, don't deny it :P :D)
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10:10 | <rickogden> I do!
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10:10 | the problem is I don't run the network, that's run by the central IT department
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10:11 | and they won't alter their DHCP
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10:11 | we've just been using thinstation+NX for linux so far
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10:12 | <alkisg> You can use a proxydhcp server for that
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10:12 | That's what I use in my schools
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10:12 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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10:12 | It works with gpxe, but it even works without it as well.
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10:13 | <rickogden> that would require some dhcp servers to be physically on those VLANs won't it?
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10:13 | <alkisg> But anyway the problem isn't there, you passed that stage
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10:13 | Yes, any dhcp server would do though.
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10:13 | Do all clients there have static ips?
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10:13 | <rickogden> there aren't any on the vlan... it's all routed through the switches
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10:14 | no, the IPs are dynamic
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10:14 | <alkisg> I don't get it
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10:14 | You have dhcp relays?
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10:14 | Anyway that's not the problem
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10:15 | <rickogden> unfortunately, networking isn't my area, so I don't know how they do it exactly
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10:15 | <rickogden> I just know they have central DHCP servers somewhere in another building
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10:18 | unlocked the root user, now updating the image
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10:19 | <Gadi> rickogden: is the symlink to lts.conf a relative symlink?
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10:21 | <rickogden> Gadi: yes
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10:22 | <Gadi> (it should look like: lts.conf -> i386/lts.conf and NOT like: lts.conf -> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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10:22 | <rickogden> Gadi: it does
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10:22 | <Gadi> ok
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10:22 | * Gadi crawls back into corner | |
10:22 | <rickogden> lts.conf -> ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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10:22 | hehe, worth checking!
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10:26 | hmm... when I try to login, it comes up briefly with a black screen before going back to the ldm
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10:26 | <rickogden> on that screen it said ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP):eth0: link is not ready
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10:31 | <alkisg> Did you manage to login as root on vt1?
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10:32 | <rickogden> for some reason, no
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10:34 | <alkisg> sudo mount -o loop /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img /mnt
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10:34 | <rickogden> still keeps coming up as login incorrect
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10:34 | <alkisg> sudo chroot /mnt
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10:34 | passwd
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10:35 | See if the existing password there is the one you provided.
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10:35 | (and then exit and unmount)
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10:36 | <rickogden> it doesn't have a password it seems
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10:38 | <alkisg> Ah root isn't asked for an existing password... my bad
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10:39 | `getent shadow root` then
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10:39 | If you get something like "root:!*:14711:0:99999:7:::", then no password is set
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10:40 | <rickogden> got it... I just rebuilt the image (again) and worked this time
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10:45 | <alkisg> Try that "ssh user@server" line I wrote above...
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10:46 | <rickogden> alkisg: that works
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10:46 | <alkisg> Without *any* warnings at all?
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10:46 | <rickogden> none as far as I noticed
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10:46 | <alkisg> OK, switch to vt7 and try from ldm
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10:47 | With the same user/pass
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10:47 | <rickogden> nope
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10:48 | if I type in a user that doesn't exist it says "No response from server, restarting"
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10:48 | if I type in something correct, it just restarts the ldm
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10:50 | <alkisg> Ah, different matter then
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10:50 | It might be a compiz problem
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10:50 | !compiz
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10:50 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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10:50 | <alkisg> If it isn't compiz, check that user's ~/.xsession-errors on the server.
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10:51 | (that compiz disabling line is ran on the server)
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10:53 | <rickogden> there are errors in xsession-errors
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10:53 | /usr/bin/xmodmap: unable to open file '/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' for
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10:53 | ding
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10:53 | /usr/bin/xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting.
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10:55 | <alkisg> You do have a DE installed on the server, right?
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10:55 | <rickogden> DE?
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10:55 | oh, desktop environment
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10:55 | yes
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10:55 | works perfectly with NX
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10:56 | <alkisg> Which one? gnome? kde?
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10:57 | <rickogden> gnome
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10:57 | it's Ubuntu Desktop x64, but using a mixture of /etc/passwd and ldap authentication
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11:02 | <alkisg> Mixture? Hmm... I wonder if that could affect the /etc/passwd reading for localapps.
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11:07 | <rickogden> hmm... not sure
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11:07 | not had any problems until now
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11:08 | <alkisg> With previous ltsp versions?
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11:09 | <abeehc_> channel log page seems behind
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11:12 | <alkisg> Yeah nubae's bot is down
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11:13 | <rickogden> alkisg: with NX
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11:13 | and local
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11:14 | eugh. anyway, my brain has officially given up
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11:14 | home time me thinks
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11:14 | <alkisg> rickogden: did that lts.conf get transferred finally?
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11:14 | <rickogden> alkisg: thanks for all your help, and I'll definitely be up for doing testing for you
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11:14 | I'm not sure, I'll have a look when I boot it up tomorrow
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11:14 | <alkisg> OK, bye bye
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11:15 | <rickogden> later!
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11:50 | <alkisg> ogra_cmpc: I don't have access to read this blueprint - was that ever implemented? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ltsp/+spec/ltsp-client-install
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13:25 | <LedHed> I have setup fat clients, and most everything works well, but about 30% of the time, the fat client wont fully boot, it gets to the ubuntu splash screen then just stalls out. Any ideas on where I should start troubleshooting?
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13:43 | <johnny> LedHed, disable quiet and splash in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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13:44 | as in.. remove them from that file
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13:44 | then you'll be able to see the error messages
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13:53 | <Gadi> seems a lot of folks are having that issue with nbd-proxy
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13:53 | might be a place to start
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14:17 | <sharles> have ltsp server and client in Virtualbox 3.2; client starts, get gnome logon screen, but cannot logon with a user that has ssh access. Ideas?
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14:18 | <johnny> you're not already logged into that user already are you?
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14:20 | <Appiah> and check .xsessions
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14:24 | <sharles> no -- get message "Verifying password", nothing happens, and then client restarts
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14:24 | <johnny> !compiz
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14:24 | <ltspbot> johnny: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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14:24 | <johnny> maybe you need to do that
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14:25 | but yes.. check .xsession-errors
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14:25 | Appiah, not .xessions.
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14:28 | <Appiah> ye .xession-error :)
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14:35 | <sharles> nothing in .xsessionserrors
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14:35 | no file .xsessions-errors
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14:46 | <johnny> sharles, /home/USER/.xsession-errors
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14:48 | <sharles> johnny:that's what I thought. Get message, "no such file or directoy"
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14:49 | <alkisg> sharles, if you have ubuntu, try "sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image"
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14:50 | <sharles> johnny: yup, did both. Can now logon to server, but no GUI
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14:51 | <alkisg> Do you have a desktop environment installed on the server?
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14:53 | <sharles> alkisg: hmm - did not do that as a separate step, First install
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14:53 | <johnny> of ubuntu server distro?
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14:53 | or regular ubuntu?
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14:54 | <sharles> johnny: ubuntu server 10.04 LTS
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14:56 | <johnny> then yes
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14:57 | apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
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14:57 | <sharles> i have a wickedly slow, wireless connection -- live in the sticks. It'll take a while. Thanks!!
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15:00 | while I have you --- other than adduser, anything else I need to do to ennable users?
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15:02 | <vagrantc> make sure they're in the fuse group, if you want to use usb sticks and the likes
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16:29 | <alkisg> Έχει κανένας παλιό Ubuntu; Π.χ. hardy; Τι μήνυμα του βγάζει η εντολή mv -n 1 2
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16:29 | ;
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16:30 | Sorry wrong channel
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16:37 | <sharles> so, for a dedicated ltsp server serving up gnome to clients, it makes sense to install the desktop?
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16:38 | <alkisg> It won't work at all without a desktop environment on the server
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16:38 | That's why the alternate CD is proposed, not the server CD.
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16:41 | <johnny> alkisg, except in the case of fat clients
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16:41 | ?
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16:41 | <LedHed> when doing ltsp-update-kernels do I have to specify the architecture (I have i386 clients and server is amd64)
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16:42 | <alkisg> Well one could also use the alternate cd for fat clients, but it won't make any sense to press "f4 - install an ltsp server". He'd better just install normally - either with the desktop iso, or even with the alternate iso
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16:42 | LedHed, no, all kernels are updated.
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16:42 | <LedHed> k thanks
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16:43 | hopefully disabling nbd-proxy will work.
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20:38 | <pids> Anyone have any idea why I cant start a second ltsp client? I used Ubuntu LTSP install and the first client boots fine. However the second client stops at loading vmlinuz. If I shut down the first client the second client boots fine.
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20:39 | <johnny> that's weird.. never heard of it
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20:39 | this is not a goood time for support in this channel btw
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20:40 | it's not active very active until about 8-12 hours from now
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20:41 | <pids> Yea its odd. The server has a gig card and all the clients are on the same switch. Thanks for the heads up on the times. I'll check back later.
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20:41 | <johnny> pids, there's also the discussion list
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20:41 | !ltsp-discuss
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20:42 | <ltspbot> johnny: "ltsp-discuss" :: at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
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20:42 | <johnny> usually i can help with issues .. just not this one atm
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20:43 | <pids> Thanks for the info.
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20:44 | I have a feeling its a timeout issue mounting the image. But I'm not getting any errors. Going to take a capture and see whats happing with the traffic.
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