IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 May 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:12 | <michiel_e> hello
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| 03:12 | <Appiah> \o
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| 03:13 | <michiel_e> where can I find the script (which application/daemon does that) which sets the rights on /dev/video0?
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| 03:13 | I want to hack that part, because I don't want to add each user to the video group
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| 03:13 | <Appiah> I dont belive that's a ltsp issue
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| 03:14 | <michiel_e> nah it is not
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| 03:14 | <Appiah> but something you would find in your dist
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| 03:14 | <michiel_e> i need it in the ltsp client (ubuntu)
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| 03:14 | client chroot
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| 03:15 | it is not a LTSP issue no, but I think here are people who have experience with that part
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| 03:15 | because I think there were more people asked for rights on the webcam on ltsp clients
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| 03:16 | in older versions of the ltsp client I changed the udev rules
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| 03:16 | but with karmic there are no udev rules anymore, at least not in /etc/udev/rules.d
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| 03:16 | <Appiah> why dont make it default for users to belong to the video group?
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| 03:17 | <michiel_e> because we LDAP and we use a webinterface to create/modify the users
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| 03:18 | and that interface doesn't support that
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| 03:18 | <Appiah> a webinterface worse then webmin? :)
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| 03:19 | <michiel_e> nah, it is custom made stuff, so no worse then webmin ;)
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| 03:19 | although it is not that good either :)
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| 03:22 | maybe it is however not a bad idea later to build a feature in that interface to be able to add users to default groups, like fuse, video, audio and stuff
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| 03:22 | because that requires less hacking and makes upgrades more painless
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| 04:13 | <alkisg> michiel_e: dpkg -L udev | grep rules.d
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| 04:27 | <michiel_e> alkisg: thanks, that command I did not know
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| 08:29 | <jimjimovich> anyone have any tips on making scanners work with LTSP on Ubuntu 10.04?
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| 08:35 | <elias_a> jimjimovich: If the scanner works in Lucid when plugged into the server, you should be able to install it to the chroot environment.
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| 08:37 | <Gadi> jimjimovich: try SCANNER=True in lts.conf
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| 08:38 | jimjimovich: also, you might want to have an Xsession.d script on the server that sets SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT}
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| 08:38 | <elias_a> Gadi: Right. I did not remember that.
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| 08:46 | <jimjimovich> anyone have any tips on making scanners work with LTSP on Ubuntu 10.04?
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| 08:47 | <netlama> Hi, I'm trying to set up a USB printer locally on a client, running Ubuntu 9.10. There seems to be a lot of contradictory info in the wikis, can anyone point me towards some current information?
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| 08:48 | Is ti still necessary to set up a static ip address and then edit /i386/etc/lts.conf?
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| 08:49 | <netlama> the lts.conf file seems to suggest this is not the way to do it!
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| 08:52 | <netlama> I can see that the usb printer gets seen by the client from dmesg as root in a console on the client, but I'm stuck as how to get it set up.
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| 08:52 | <Gadi> (09:34:30 AM) Gadi: jimjimovich: try SCANNER=True in lts.conf
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| 08:52 | (09:35:12 AM) Gadi: jimjimovich: also, you might want to have an Xsession.d script on the server that sets SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT}
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| 08:53 | netlama: you need to make a dhcp reservation for the client
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| 08:53 | <Gadi> netlama: so its IP or hostname is static
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| 08:53 | netlama: then, you set up the print queue on the server as a jetdirect printer with that IP (port 9100)
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| 08:54 | netlama: in lts.conf, you need only tell it what the device is: PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usblp0
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| 08:54 | or some such
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| 08:56 | <netlama> Gadi, thx. thats kinda what I read for Jaunty, but my lts.conf says not to edit it but to use /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instad. Is that right?
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> yup
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| 08:57 | <netlama> OK, thanks.
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| 08:58 | <jimjimovich> Gadi: I tried the lts.conf thing, do you have any further info or links for doing an Xsession.d script?
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| 08:58 | the scanner works great on the server, btw
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| 08:58 | I also tried running simple-scan as a local app on the thin client, but it didn't find the scanner
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> Xsession.d scripts are shell scripts that are sourced - so the only key thing is to make sure that the script returns true
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| 09:00 | so, in your case, simply make a script, say: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/00ltsp-scanner
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| 09:00 | and just put:
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| 09:01 | SANE_NET_HOSTS=${LTSP_CLIENT}
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| 09:01 | export SANE_NET_HOSTS
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| 09:01 | if it is not working properly, verify that youhave the scanner packages in your chroot
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| 09:01 | with: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -l |grep sane
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| 09:02 | (on ubuntu)
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| 09:02 | <stgraber> Gadi: we have that as part of X99 already ... it should work
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> stgraber: ah, we added that?
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| 09:02 | cool
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| 09:02 | <stgraber> Gadi: setting SCANNER=True in lts.conf should start saned + add SANE_NET_HOSTS to the environment
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> jimjimovich: so, you may not need the Xsession.d script at all
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| 09:02 | <jimjimovich> stgraber: I see you're here too :)
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| 09:03 | <stgraber> Gadi: (as in, the session's environment, so the huge ssh command line)
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| 09:03 | Gadi: X99-run-x-session is "supposed" to do it
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| 09:03 | *X95
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| 09:03 | <Gadi> stgraber: do you install sane packages in the chroot by default?
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| 09:04 | <stgraber> Gadi: in lucid I do (IIRC)
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| 09:04 | that feature is supported since r1194 of ldm
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| 09:04 | <jimjimovich> guys, I first installed Edubuntu like 4 years ago at our small university, then updated it to 8.04 two years ago. I have to say, there has been insane progress since I first started using it. I was shocked today to see sound, flash drives, dvd, video, compiz all working out of the box
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| 09:05 | <stgraber> Gadi: so, that's since: ldm ldm-2.0.48
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| 09:05 | <jimjimovich> now my boss wants me to not only upgrade the student computer lab (where 8.04 Edubuntu is running now) but to also move all our staff to ltsp ... so I might be needing a lot of help from this IRC channel in the next month :)
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> jimjimovich: that's always nice to hear!
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| 09:07 | glad we fix more than we break
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| 09:07 | :)
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| 09:07 | <jimjimovich> oh dude, it's SO NICE
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| 09:07 | thanks to everyone who works on this!
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| 09:08 | <Gadi> stgraber: quick question - is there any reason why we need to run pulseaudio in system mode rather than simply as user root?
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| 09:09 | is that a security concern?
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| 09:09 | <jimjimovich> my biggest problems i can foresee are printers, scanners, and cd-burners
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> jimjimovich: printers and scanners are same old same old, for cdburners look toward local apps
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| 09:10 | <jimjimovich> Gadi: cool. will running something like K3B as a local app allow it to see the burner?
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> and keep in mind that burning CDs over a network en-masse can have potential for sucking :)
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| 09:11 | yes, indeed
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| 09:11 | (provided the user is in the right group)
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| 09:11 | <jimjimovich> Gadi: I think people don't really burn cds ... it's just the idea that they "can't" which bothers them
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| 09:11 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 09:11 | much like reading from cds in general
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| 09:11 | :)
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| 09:12 | <jimjimovich> btw, I remember when installing Edubuntu 6.06, it took me like a week to get USB Flash drivers working ... so it was nice to see it working so well out-of-the-box in Lucid
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| 09:14 | Gadi: what's the best time to find help from people in this channel? It's 18:11 here right now ... are most people in America or all over?
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| 09:16 | <cliebow> jimjimovich, Gadi is in NewYork..ogra in Germany stgraber in like Quebec
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| 09:18 | <jimjimovich> okay guys, thanks for the tips. i'll be working on this all day tomorrow, made notes of your tips. thanks again for the great work!
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| 09:19 | <cliebow> i cook a mean lobster..
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| 10:02 | <stgraber> cliebow: currently in Brussels for UDS ;)
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| 10:11 | <cliebow> stgraber:cool!!
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> stgraber: tell shuttleworth that if he uses "nipply" when he gets up to "N", I quit
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| 10:18 | :)
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| 10:33 | <cliebow> weeeee!
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| 11:23 | <nosedrum> hi everybody
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| 11:23 | i have a issue who make me crazy
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| 11:24 | <nosedrum> i have a different display of a html table on my ltsp clients in comparaion of ltsp server or laptop...
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| 11:25 | anyone have experience of internet browser rendering issues on ltsp clients?
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| 11:32 | anybody to test with me if your configuration make the same issue ?
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| 11:36 | <nosedrum> I experiment a Firefox issue running on a ltsp client
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| 11:36 | On a buisness jsp site the result of a form normally appear on local firefox but not on the ltsp client
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| 11:37 | I have no idea why
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| 11:37 | nobody have some experience with that ?
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| 11:38 | <johnny> i've heard of similiar things
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| 11:39 | <nosedrum> really ?
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| 11:39 | <johnny> not sure if it's fixed or not since i killed the ~
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| 11:39 | i switched hardware but forgot to clean up the client ~
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| 11:39 | i'll find out on thursday if it's still happening
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| 11:39 | with intel gma 950 graphics
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| 11:40 | nosedrum, really what you need to do then.. is try to boot a livecd/liveusb on that client hardware if possible
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| 11:41 | i'm not using standard ltsp, but the fat client support.. so nothing is really going over the network or anything as in a standard ltsp setup
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| 11:41 | so.. it's probably not related to ltsp at all, just the specific hardware of the client
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| 12:53 | <grspence__> is it possible to share a usb disk connected to a ltsp client via samba?
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| 12:57 | <jammcq> hello friends
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| 13:24 | <thunsucker> good afternoon
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| 13:38 | <grspence__> afternoon
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| 13:38 | any idea if i can share a usb disk connected to a ltsp client via samba?
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| 13:39 | <Gadi> grspence__: it should appear under /media/$USER on the server
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| 13:39 | just share out that dir
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| 13:50 | <grspence__> ah ok fab
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| 13:51 | <Lns> grspence__: sounds like an interesting request..why do you need to do that specifically?
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| 13:53 | <grspence__> for my home theathre PC....
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| 13:53 | i've got a small acer aspire revo behind the TV
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| 13:54 | and a thin client gathering dust in a cupboard
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| 13:54 | so my thinking is use the thin client to serve all my external hard drives over the network
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| 13:55 | that way I got all my movies available on myth but none of the wires etc gluttering my TV area....all neatly tucked away in a cupboard
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| 13:55 | am loving mythtv
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| 13:56 | <Lns> grspence__: awesome, I just did that as well with a little atom thin client box i have, have a 1Gbit cable running upstairs to my PC serving everything out via ltsp =)
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| 13:57 | * Lns can't believe how well xvid/divx/etc movies stream over the network, and how crappily flash *still* is with the same setup, even non-fullscreen | |
| 13:57 | <grspence__> flash always has been a bug bear
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| 13:57 | <Lns> tell me about it ;)
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| 13:58 | <grspence__> just wish there was a plugin to integrate bbc iPlayer and 4od into myth easily
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| 13:59 | <Lns> I was thinking about using myth, but 1) I don't have cable, and 2) Everything just seems easier with a full desktop to me
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| 13:59 | <grspence__> wherebouts u live?
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| 13:59 | <Lns> Bout an hour north of San Francisco
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| 13:59 | <grspence__> ah ok
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| 13:59 | <Lns> you?
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| 13:59 | <grspence__> i'm in the UK
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| 13:59 | <Lns> right on
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| 13:59 | Anarchy in the UK!!! =)
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| 13:59 | <grspence__> lol
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| 14:00 | <Lns> UK = PAL, not ntsc right?
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| 14:00 | <grspence__> yup
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| 14:02 | terrestrial TV consists of a DVB-t "freeview" signal - probs about 26 channels
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| 14:02 | that's all that i really need -
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| 14:02 | it's great sitting at work though and being able to line up recording from my iphone
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| 14:02 | <Lns> European programming just seems so much more quality (specially BBC) than american
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| 14:03 | hehe
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| 14:03 | nice
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| 14:03 | <grspence__> yeah well we got less channels but more quality i would say
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| 14:04 | <Lns> for sure
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| 14:04 | <grspence__> but then there is always the digital satellite incumbant...Sky as it is known here
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| 14:04 | owned by rupert murdoch
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| 14:04 | <Lns> i'd say around here with comcast if you flip through the 150 channels, 80% will be on a commercial
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| 14:04 | <grspence__> mostly channels showing american shows etc
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| 14:04 | oh god yeah i couldn't put up with ur ad breaks
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| 14:04 | <Lns> it's horrible, that's why i cut my cable
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| 14:05 | <3 youtube and hulu
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| 14:05 | <grspence__> :D
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| 14:05 | seriously try iplayer
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| 14:05 | get a VPN connection to the UK and give it a go
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| 14:05 | <Lns> but can't wait until ogg becomes more popular for audio/video
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| 14:05 | isn't iplayer just a flash based player, or a network?
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| 14:06 | <grspence__> yeah but there is a "get iplayer" script that transcodes the flash in the background
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| 14:06 | <Lns> transcodes to what, ogg?
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| 14:07 | <grspence__> think just an mpeg not sure
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| 14:07 | never used it
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| 14:07 | mostly watch iplayer on my mac laptop
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| 14:07 | <Lns> ah
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| 14:08 | i watched an ogg video on my ltsp terminal in firefox..quality was SO good, and streaming was perfect fullscreen
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| 14:08 | <thunsucker> Lns: do you work with diskless workstations?
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| 14:08 | <Lns> thunsucker: i work *with* them, not for them
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| 14:08 | * Lns is typing on his ltsp term 1220 | |
| 14:08 | <thunsucker> Lns: gotcha, just haven't seen can-o-spam in here for a while
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| 14:08 | <Lns> ah, yeah me neither
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| 14:09 | probably out snowboarding or something ;)
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| 14:09 | <thunsucker> lol
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| 14:09 | <abeehc> ogg/h264?
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| 14:10 | <abeehc> i think you still need some horsepower
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| 14:11 | <Lns> abeehc: ogg != h264
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| 14:11 | <abeehc> ogg != video codec
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| 14:11 | <Lns> it's not?
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| 14:11 | <abeehc> ogg can certainly contain x264 as i recall
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| 14:12 | <Lns> well, vorbis
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| 14:12 | <abeehc> it's just a container
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| 14:12 | <Lns> really...that's weird.
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| 14:12 | <abeehc> they have vorbis for audio
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| 14:12 | <Lns> oh, theora is video?
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| 14:12 | <abeehc> but i don't htink there's a legit ogg video codec per say
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| 14:12 | yeah
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| 14:12 | <Lns> so ogg=container, vorbis/theora is codec?
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| 14:12 | <abeehc> it's a general purpose container but theora is the way to go
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| 14:12 | yeah
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| 14:12 | <Lns> gotcha, thx for that
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| 14:13 | <alkisg> Isn't v8 from google going to replace both theora & x264?
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| 14:13 | <abeehc> just pretty sure my clients would melt trying to play ogg via html5
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| 14:13 | i think if it were using the gstreamer plugin it would be smooth though
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| 14:13 | alkisg: here's hoping
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| 14:13 | but all thus fud about patents even in regard to theora
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| 14:13 | i'm not sure vp8 or whatever will clear it out that well
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| 14:14 | but google may just go to bat for us and fight the good fight
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> Let's hope so... open & better than both of them, they do have some strong cards
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| 14:15 | <abeehc> for sure I don't imagine too many people really wanna tangle with them
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| 14:15 | <Lns> i just know youtube needs to switch off of flash..ugh
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| 14:15 | <abeehc> mind you mpegla is not predictable
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| 14:15 | you can switch it for some videos or a lot of them, lns
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| 14:15 | <Lns> abeehc: how?
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| 14:15 | <abeehc> doesn't work perfect but i've been playing with it
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| 14:15 | http://www.youtube.com/testtube
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| 14:15 | * Lns gets REALLY excited | |
| 14:15 | <abeehc> i suspect it's still h264 but html5 nonetheless
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| 14:16 | <Lns> anything is better than flash
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| 14:16 | i'd even go for wmv =p
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| 14:16 | <abeehc> haha i'd mostly agree
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| 14:16 | but in it's current state; at least for chrome; the cpu usage is comparable
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| 14:17 | :(
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| 14:17 | <Lns> and firefox/iceweasel not compatible as of yet according to yt :(
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| 14:19 | <grspence__> right got ltsp building a client :)
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| 14:19 | gorra love ubuntu
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| 14:19 | so on my server any drive connected will just appear under my /media/(user) directory?
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> Lns: I wonder if firefox can use the `chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra` codecs to play that youtube videos..
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| 14:20 | <Lns> alkisg: dunno..was going to test out chrome on lenny right now and give it a shot w/that
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| 14:20 | <abeehc> right the ff incompatibility comes down to them not bundling h264
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| 14:20 | which you have to respect
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| 14:21 | <abeehc> at least i think
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| 14:24 | * Lns wonders what would happen if somehow money completely disappeared from the face of the earth...would we be better off? :) | |
| 14:30 | <johnny> Lns, sorry dude.. theora ain't gonna happen
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| 14:30 | more likely... google is just gonna continue working on opening their on2 tech
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| 14:31 | Lns, until there is more or less free access to energy by the global population.. there will be money
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| 14:34 | it's probably recommended to use a browser that handles video via gstreamer if you want things to "just work"
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| 14:34 | too bad chrome doesn't use gstreamer
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| 14:35 | <abeehc> hmm
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| 14:35 | i'm not sure about 'just work'.. how many times do you find the gstreamer plugin loading in firefox?
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| 14:35 | given most content is flashed or whatever i hardly ever use it
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| 14:35 | nasa tv being one exception
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| 14:39 | <Lns> johnny: free energy is closer than you think =)
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| 14:39 | <johnny> which kinda free?
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| 14:39 | <Lns> look up in the sky ;)
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| 14:39 | <johnny> abeehc, huh?
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| 14:40 | Lns, hmm? not really .. we still have to build lots of things to collect it all
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| 14:40 | <Lns> solar is going to be so cheap to convert to real energy soon it's going to be used for everything
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| 14:40 | johnny: look at organics (plants/etc)..
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| 14:40 | pretty cheap to grow a tree, trees consume solar and convert it for themselves
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| 14:40 | <johnny> at low efficiency
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| 14:40 | nobody has achieved super high efficiency with solar yet
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| 14:40 | <Lns> until we figure out how to manipulate it ;)
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| 14:41 | <johnny> believe me.. i watch that space..
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| 14:41 | as well as fusion
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| 14:41 | fusion seems to be catching hold again
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| 14:41 | lots of folks are trying lots of things with both
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| 14:41 | <abeehc> i never use the gstreamer plugin in ff; in fact i avoid it; seems just as likely to crash as a flash video playert
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| 14:42 | <johnny> wfm
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| 14:42 | as far as i can tell,.. it's not actually using gstreamer directly.. but using some external plugin infra to call totem that happens to use gstreamer
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| 14:42 | <abeehc> right right my mistake
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| 14:42 | <Lns> johnny: that's cool. don't know about fusion besides what i saw in 'chain reaction' ;)
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| 14:43 | <johnny> lots of folks are working on stuff like neighborhood reactors
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| 14:43 | <Lns> i'm just a dreamer but I think the sun along with our motivation to create lower energy/efficient products will harmonize in the future
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| 14:43 | <johnny> the sun .. as we get it so far.. isn't really enough
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| 14:43 | <Lns> johnny: right
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| 14:43 | <johnny> that's why japan spent $50B to put up a space based solar power station
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| 14:43 | <Lns> which is why we need to not waste so much energy with our current stuff
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| 14:43 | we're very sloppy as it is
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| 14:44 | <johnny> sure.. that's a better place to focus
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| 14:44 | <Lns> 70-80% efficiency with MODERN power supplies for PCs? bah
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| 14:44 | <johnny> we just bought 3 new terminals for our store..
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| 14:44 | they use 35W max
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| 14:44 | dual core atoms
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| 14:44 | of course.. i wish we could use some arm stuff.. but not quite feasible yet
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| 14:44 | <Lns> nice
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| 14:45 | <johnny> arm would be even more efficient
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| 14:45 | that's the kind of thing you can build into appliances
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| 14:45 | <Lns> i've tried a couple of atoms, i'd definitely stay away from the N270 line but their newer dualcore stuff (not just ht) seems to work pretty well
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| 15:08 | <reynolds> alkisg: are you up for tring to help me out again?
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| 15:08 | <alkisg> reynolds: hi, I'm a little deep into python atm, if noone else can help you, could you wait for 30'?
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| 15:09 | <Lns> reynolds: what's the prob?
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| 15:10 | <reynolds> sounds good. Anyone else familiar with problems relating to lts.conf not working in Lucid?
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| 15:12 | Several variables from lts.conf do not reflect in my clients. For instance local apps are not reflecting menu items.
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| 15:13 | <Lns> reynolds: hrm, they work fine for me..you're going through the actual gnome menus (applications -> etc) ? or a gnome panel/desktop launcher?
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| 15:13 | <reynolds> also ssh is turned on despite, including LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 15:14 | <Lns> sounds lke your lts.conf just isn't being read at all
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| 15:14 | i386 or amd64 chroot?
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| 15:14 | there are separate lts.conf for each if you have both
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| 15:15 | <reynolds> my server is amd64, my chroot is i386
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| 15:15 | <Lns> so you're modifying /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf ?
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| 15:15 | <reynolds> yes
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| 15:15 | <Lns> perms are correct?
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| 15:16 | <reynolds> Perms?
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| 15:16 | <Lns> permissions
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| 15:16 | <reynolds> im not sure.. is there away that I can check
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| 15:16 | <Lns> ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf
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| 15:17 | <reynolds> amd64?
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| 15:17 | <Lns> while you're at it why not pastebin the entire contents of your lts.conf
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| 15:17 | sorry, i386
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| 15:17 | (pasted my own ;) )
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| 15:17 | !pastebin
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| 15:17 | <ltspbot> Lns: "pastebin" :: try !pastebot
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| 15:17 | <Lns> !pastebot
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| 15:17 | <ltspbot> Lns: "pastebot" :: The LTSP pastebot is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 15:18 | <Lns> reynolds: you have a [Default] at the very top of your lts.conf right?
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| 15:18 | <reynolds> out put " -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268 2010-05-10 17:05 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 15:18 | "
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| 15:18 | <vagrantc> maybe paste the whole lts.conf...
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| 15:18 | <Lns> k perms are good
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| 15:18 | * Lns waves to vagrantc | |
| 15:18 | * vagrantc waves and hides | |
| 15:19 | <Lns> =p
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| 15:19 | <reynolds> http://pastebin.com/LsemHzgK
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| 15:20 | <Lns> not sure if you need it but maybe a space between = and stuff? (as in ldm_directx = true )
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| 15:21 | i always tab vars and values out to line them up for neatness sake..just me though
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| 15:22 | reynolds: also no spaces between local_apps_menu_items commas and values
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| 15:24 | <reynolds> so "LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = firefox,glchess,gcompris"
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| 15:24 | <Lns> yes
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| 15:24 | that's how i do it anyway and it works
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| 15:25 | <reynolds> also can I logout client to test changes, or do I have to do a full reboot
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| 15:25 | <Lns> reboot
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| 15:25 | <reynolds> thats what I have been doing, just wanted to clarify
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| 15:26 | <Lns> i mean you probably could import the vars (they are simply environment variables set at boot) but i'm not sure how to do that
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| 15:26 | <reynolds> BINGO, it works
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| 15:28 | now however firefox is not connecting to the internet.
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| 15:29 | <Lns> had same issue
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| 15:29 | have you gone through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/ ?
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| 15:31 | <reynolds> not since I upgraded. Would the upgrade have effected that?
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| 15:32 | <Lns> *shrug* probably ;) good to verify stuff at least since it's borked
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| 15:58 | <Lns> reynolds: how's it going?
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| 16:00 | <reynolds> got it, Need to "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 " in /etc/sysctl.conf
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| 16:02 | Now, do you know anyway so that I can install firefox addons to be applied to all users using localapp firefox?
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| 16:04 | <Lns> reynolds: probably depends on the addon
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| 16:05 | not really sure though, haven't delved into that at all (besides flash plugin)
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| 16:06 | <reynolds> ok thanks anyway. I just happy I got back control of lts.conf. Thanks
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| 16:08 | <Lns> np glad it worked
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| 16:14 | <Lns> !compiz
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| 16:14 | <ltspbot> Lns: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 16:16 | <reynolds> ok, now I have a couple of machines that are showing a blank login screen, all blue. Anyone else run into this?
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| 16:18 | <Lns> i see blank light blue when rebooting / shutting down some atom based clients
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| 16:18 | and it doesn't fully turn off
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| 16:19 | <reynolds> I am tring diffrent xserver variables, but am having no success. Color depth, resolution, driver, etc
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| 16:22 | <Lns> they don't work by default?
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| 16:26 | <reynolds> Lns: what are you refering to
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| 16:26 | <Lns> without any variables
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| 16:27 | <Lns> reynolds: maybe try removing quiet & splash from tftp kernel parms default file
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| 16:28 | i had a problem with that with 9.10 but not 10.04..
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| 16:28 | sometimes the framebuffer splash messes things up
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| 16:28 | <reynolds> with or without variables. I cant log in. when the machine boots up I am lefty with a blanck light blue screen
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| 16:29 | I thought that perhaps specifing a diffrent XSERVER varable ie XSERVER = vesa, that would aloow me to see the login.
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| 16:29 | <Lns> i'd try disabling boot splash first
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| 16:29 | brb
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| 16:31 | <reynolds> How do you do that?
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| 16:32 | <Lns> reynolds: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting
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| 16:34 | <johnny> why doesn't ubuntu ship pxelinux.cfg/default file that has a debugging option
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| 16:34 | that doesn't include quiet/splash
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| 16:35 | <Lns> ubuntu loves pretty pictures
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| 16:35 | they will sacrifice debugging for pretty pictures ;)
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| 16:57 | <reynolds> Ok I tried editing "sudo vim /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default" removing quite and splash. now my clients say error: failed to connect to NBD Server
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| 16:58 | initramfs
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| 17:04 | <reynolds> I just edited it to inclue quite and splash and am still getting same message. HELP
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| 17:08 | <reynolds> my /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default is this is there an error? http://pastebin.com/VSfHvQmj
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| 17:09 | <Lns> reynolds: nbd port is 2000
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| 17:09 | careful with your edits :)
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> quite =>quiet
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| 17:14 | <reynolds> I made the "quiet" adjustment and I am still getting the error.
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| 17:14 | <alkisg> What about the 200 => 2000 adjustment?
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| 17:15 | <reynolds> sorry just saw that.
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| 17:17 | <reynolds> changed "2000" still getting error
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| 17:22 | anyone see what is causing the error? http://pastebin.com/6cf2vhKH
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| 17:24 | <Lns> reynolds: that's exactly what i have
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| 17:26 | <reynolds> maybe a server reboot?
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| 17:31 | <reynolds> nope? anyone know why I would get an error. Failed to connect to NBD server
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| 17:35 | <Lns> reynolds: is your nbd server up and running? have you verified the configuration?
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| 17:37 | <reynolds> I tried resetting using dpkg-reconfigure nbd-server, now updating the image to see if that changes anything
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| 17:38 | <Lns> it was working before, no?
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| 17:38 | <reynolds> THAT DID IT!!! I was getting worried there
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| 17:39 | <Lns> nice
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| 18:04 | <rmainard> does anyone know how to diable the information screen that comes up when a thin client boots to an ltsp cluster?
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| 18:05 | The problem I have with it is when the mouse is moved it de-selects the OK box and is kind of difficult to get it to re-select so I can hit enter to clear it
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