IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 28 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:08 | <astroboy> vagrantc: I've had the same error msg from two different local mirrors : " Couldn't find these debs: locales
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| 00:08 | "
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| 00:10 | <vagrantc> do you have the "locales" packages in your mirrors?
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| 00:10 | <astroboy> .. with other msgs saying 'Packages.gz was corrupt' and " LTSP client installation ended abnormally"
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| 00:10 | <vagrantc> astroboy: you might need to rm -rf /opt/ltsp/* and start over ...
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| 00:10 | <astroboy> As far as I am aware .. yes .. but I don't know what is in them.
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| 00:11 | Ugh .. yes.
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| 00:11 | <vagrantc> apt-cache policy locales
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| 00:11 | will tell you which mirrors have the locales package, presuming you've got your local mirrors in your sources.list and such
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| 00:11 | <astroboy> yep
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| 00:13 | Ah, I didn't have 'etch' in them, I took them from /etc/apt/sources.list ..
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| 00:13 | So a different version from the same mirror should be OK
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| 00:14 | No, sorry, same problem.
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| 00:15 | <vagrantc> any proxy settings that might be interfering?
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| 00:16 | <astroboy> .. whether I use 'ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org etch/main Packages
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| 00:16 | ' or ' ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian
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| 00:16 | ' or 'http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/'
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| 00:16 | No proxies.
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| 00:16 | <vagrantc> hrm.
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| 00:16 | i've never really had a problem with that ....
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| 00:17 | <astroboy> I'm loath to start over having got ltspcfg in order .. just the small matter *I think* of not including the kernel ..
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| 00:17 | I think I have to sleep on it ..
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| 00:18 | Erm .. are Cascadians from Washington state or Quebec ?
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| 00:18 | <vagrantc> don't use ltspcfg with ltsp5
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| 00:18 | <astroboy> Oh ..
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| 00:18 | <vagrantc> it will break things.
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| 00:19 | at least, i think it will...
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| 00:19 | <astroboy> How to config, then ?
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> well, at the moment, by hand.
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| 00:20 | <astroboy> I'm getting there, methinks
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| 00:23 | <vagrantc> astroboy: there's a little documentation in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/ that might be helpful ...
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| 00:30 | <astroboy> I hear that Cascadia is a lot like NZ ..
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| 00:31 | found it, thanks
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| 00:32 | <vagrantc> yeah, i hear cascadia is a fair amount like NZ ...
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| 00:32 | though there's also the dry side of cascadia
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| 00:35 | <astroboy> Ah, I found you signature .. 'dry' as in wit ?
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> no, dry as in very little annual rainfall
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| 00:36 | <mistik1> vagrantc: sup buddy
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> the east side of the cascades is sort of high desert
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| 00:36 | mistik1: evenin
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| 00:37 | mistik1: struggling to keep up with my free software projects while spending most of my day commuting to/from work, and then all the time in between the commuting working :)
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| 00:39 | <chupacabra> just finished babel. hmmm
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| 00:43 | <astroboy> vagrantc: sounds familiar. I'm going to have to get up tomorrow and survey the damage .. :-)
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| 00:48 | vagrantc: How would you modify the dhcpd.conf example for etherboot ?
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| 00:49 | .. comment out the pxe* lines ?
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| 00:49 | <vagrantc> astroboy: the example dhcpd.conf in the doc directory should handle both pxe and etherboot
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| 00:52 | <astroboy> Good. I think it should solve my root, or kernel, problem.
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| 00:59 | Cheers ..
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| 02:06 | <lapinmalin> Hello everybody
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| 04:41 | <cbx33> hey guys, the ltsp-client-build script just ended with an error about the /self/proc/fd already existing
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| 04:41 | I'm using edubuntu edgy...
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| 04:41 | any ideas?
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| 04:44 | <ogra> cbx33, luckily the feisty version checks and refuses to start if it gets forced to install to an unclean target where the admin didnt clean up his mess first :P
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| 04:44 | <cbx33> well...actaully
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| 04:44 | the installer on the CD screwed up
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| 04:44 | and failed to finish building
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| 04:45 | what should I do to clean up
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| 04:45 | ogra: I don;t know why the install failed on the CD, but it did
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| 04:46 | <ogra> sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 04:46 | pretty simple
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| 04:46 | <cbx33> oh i did that
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| 04:46 | it was complaining about /proc/self
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| 04:46 | oh was that in the chroot
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| 04:46 | * cbx33 tries | |
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| 05:12 | <tuwaha> hi
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| 05:12 | I have a query regarding a problem that I am facing in running a GTK based desktop application on thin client under LTSP.
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| 05:12 | Actually this application needs to access one of the USB ports of the thin client, but /proc/bus/usb (which resides on server) is invisible to it.
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| 05:13 | Is it possible to run this application locally so that it could access the
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| 05:13 | usb port of the local machine. I am using libusb to communicate with the usb port.
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| 05:16 | <cliebow_> tuwaha:catch you later..when sbalneav is around
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| 05:19 | <root__> hallo
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| 05:20 | ich habe mir einen LTSP Server unter Suse 10.2 installiert
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| 05:21 | leider will es nicht so recht mit dem usb stick klappen
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| 05:21 | <envite> Hola a todos desde España
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| 05:23 | <root__> kann es daran liegen das es unter samba keinen smbmount mehr gibt ??
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| 07:07 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi all
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| 07:24 | <lapinmalin> hello everybody
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| 07:25 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi
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| 07:33 | <cliebow> Ho!
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| 07:35 | <a5benwillis> yo
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| 07:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> morning!
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| 07:39 | <cliebow> HeeHee!
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| 07:49 | can you hear me now?
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| 07:51 | <str4nd> no
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| 07:53 | <cliebow> weird..network seems fine but iso d/l just stops
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| 08:14 | <Jenna> morning all
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| 08:16 | <envite> morning jenna
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| 08:20 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi
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| 08:21 | <cbx33> hey all
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| 08:21 | got a problem with some machines
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| 08:21 | tftp open timeout E32
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| 08:22 | i know that the tftp server is ok
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| 08:22 | as some other mahcines boot fine
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| 08:44 | <cliebow> Yippee!!
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| 08:48 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> is there too much diferences in the fuse installation? between 4.2 and 5?
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| 08:49 | debian
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:10 | Congrats to Ollie!
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| 09:12 | <cliebow> Scott!!..Ollie's birthday?
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| 09:12 | <Gadi> engagement?
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| 09:12 | feature freeze?
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| 09:12 | ;)
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| 09:12 | <sbalneav> Edubuntu made linux.com and newsforge!
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| 09:13 | <lapinmalin> Bonjour
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| 09:13 | <Gadi> bonjour, lapinmalin
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| 09:13 | <cliebow> Righto!!..guess i saw the refernce\
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| 09:14 | sbalneav: dont suppose youve used ubuntu on Sun?
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| 09:14 | <lapinmalin> Gadi : i make some test this morning (GMT +1), sometimes lbussd works, sometimes not. BUT i never see the content of my usb key
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| 09:14 | <sbalneav> No, I haven't
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| 09:15 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: what kernel are you pushing back to the thin client?
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| 09:15 | lapinmalin: you should make sure that you have ltsp-4.2u3
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| 09:15 | <jammcq> heh
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| 09:15 | <Gadi> or later
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| 09:15 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:15 | g'morning gents
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| 09:16 | <Gadi> because jammcq (ahem) hadnt rolled the fuse module into earlier ltsp kernels
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| 09:16 | oh, hi jammcq
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| 09:16 | didnt see you there
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| 09:16 | ;)
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| 09:16 | <jammcq> knucklehead
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| 09:16 | <Gadi> jammcq is most handsome this morning
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| 09:16 | did I ever tell you that, lapinmalin?
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| 09:16 | <jammcq> ah, respect, that's what I like :)
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| 09:17 | sbalneav: hey, I need your flight info for tomorrow
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| 09:17 | <lapinmalin> on the thin client i have 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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| 09:17 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: in other words, make sure the fuse module is loaded on the thin client
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| 09:17 | <sbalneav> jammcq: Sure, one sec.
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| 09:17 | <lapinmalin> i verify...
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| 09:17 | <Gadi> cat /proc/modules|grep fuse
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| 09:19 | <lapinmalin> yes fuse module is loaded
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| 09:20 | <lapinmalin> what does it means "most handsome" ?
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| 09:21 | <Gadi> it means he remembered to shave this morning :)
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| 09:22 | unlike me
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| 09:22 | sbalneav: what was that magic lts.conf param you had to disable ltspfsd security?
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| 09:22 | something like: LTSPFSD_OPTIONS = "-a"
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| 09:22 | or something?
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| 09:22 | <sbalneav> yup
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| 09:22 | you got it
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| 09:22 | <Gadi> was that it?
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| 09:22 | <lapinmalin> I remember to shave, but only this morning !!!
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| 09:22 | <Gadi> wow
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| 09:23 | lapinmalin: add that to lts.conf
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| 09:23 | <Gadi> and reboot the thin client
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| 09:23 | LTSPFSD_OPTIONS = "-a"
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| 09:23 | see if that makes it work
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| 09:29 | <lapinmalin> No i doesn't work. Always recognize but nothing in /tmp/drives/Removable. Do i need this line in ltsp : LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/sda1:usbkey
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| 09:29 | <Gadi> nope
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| 09:29 | shouldn't need that
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| 09:29 | <lapinmalin> i try without it
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| 09:29 | <sbalneav> lapinmalin: do you have udev working on FreeBSD?
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| 09:30 | <Gadi> yeah. then, also maybe pastebin your lts.conf
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| 09:30 | sbalneav: we're working out localdev+RDP
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> Yeah, I know.
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| 09:30 | <Gadi> the server is irrelevant for this exercise :)
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| 09:30 | <lapinmalin> No i dont have udev working in freebsd. For the moment, i just test with RDP
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| 09:32 | the same problem !
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| 09:33 | <Gadi> can you paste your lts.conf?
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| 09:33 | <lapinmalin> for the moment, idon't find any doc for udev under BSD. I've just installed fusefs-libs and fusefs-kmod. Fuse i loaded by the system.
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| 09:33 | <Gadi> to pastebin.com
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| 09:33 | <lapinmalin> what is pastebin.com ???
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| 09:34 | <Gadi> you do have LOCAL_STORAGE = Y
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| 09:34 | right?
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| 09:34 | <lapinmalin> yes i do !
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| 09:34 | <Gadi> you can cut/paste your file into pastebin.com and then share the link to it here
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| 09:41 | <lapinmalin> how can i paste my file in pastebin.com ?
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| 09:43 | <Gadi> just copy/paste into the textfield
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| 09:45 | <lapinmalin> i've done it. I didn't know this tool !
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| 09:45 | <Gadi> cool. after you submit the page, post the link here
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| 09:47 | <lapinmalin> OK, i'm waiting for pastebin.com
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| 09:49 | <lapinmalin> no response from pastebin.com
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| 09:52 | cna you see it in pastebin.com ? I see my name in recentpost but i don't receive any link...
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| 09:53 | I've to leave now. Are you here tomorow ?
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| 09:54 | ok, the link is : http://pastebin.com/890705
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| 09:55 | See you... Bonsoir everybody
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| 10:28 | <cliebow> Gadi:pingo
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| 10:28 | trying to gat a sun server running..things die trying to mount /proc..saying /proc already mounted..mean anything to you?
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| 10:29 | in Ubuntu that is
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| 10:29 | not solaris
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| 10:44 | <Gadi> cliebow: sounds like /proc is already mounted ;)
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| 10:46 | <cliebow> Gadi: i thought as much! ill get my crowbar and unmount it..near the dug hole
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| 10:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> jsut make univ boot dsk -> cat ebnet522.dsk > /dev/fd0 ? right?
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| 11:00 | <bricode> sh3mh4mf0r4sh that should work provided the .dsk file is a bootable floppy image.
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| 11:00 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh: or you can use dd if=ebnet522.dsk of=/dev/fd0 bs=512k
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| 11:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 11:01 | thanxs
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| 11:13 | <cliebow> mistik1: pingo
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| 11:14 | ogra?
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| 11:35 | <dan__t> %@!%@!#%^T#Q
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| 11:35 | yo
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| 11:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hi have question... what could be .. if i have test here fuse module and LOCAL_STORAGE=Y i can see flash and teste
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| 11:35 | <dan__t> what
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| 11:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> when i send server .. clients can mount pendrives
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| 11:36 | but can't see anything in there
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| 11:36 | and copy something from browser
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| 11:36 | and paste to flash
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| 11:36 | when i see at other pc windows example.. flash is empty
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| 11:36 | :|
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| 11:38 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: if this is on ubuntu, make sure the users are members of the "fuse" group
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| 11:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> need to make 'sync' when something is write to flash
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| 11:38 | how can i see that?
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| 11:38 | <Gadi> no need to sync with ltspfs
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| 11:38 | go to Users and Groups
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| 11:38 | or type: id <username> at the terminal
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| 11:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmm
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| 11:39 | check
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| 11:39 | biblioteca:~# id pc1
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| 11:39 | uid=1005(pc1) gid=1005(pc1) grupos=1005(pc1)
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| 11:39 | <Gadi> there ya go
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| 11:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> fuse:x:107:
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| 11:40 | need change then
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| 11:40 | <Gadi> try: sudo adduser pc1 fuse
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| 11:40 | then logout and login again as pc1
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| 11:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmm
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| 11:40 | <Gadi> and try the flash drive
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| 11:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> biblioteca:~# adduser pc1 fuse
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| 11:40 | Adding user `pc1' to group `fuse' ...
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| 11:40 | Hecho.
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| 11:40 | nice!
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| 11:41 | ok .. i call to center to can test
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| 11:41 | i'm 2 blocks away from there
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| 11:41 | ok.. i including the rest clients
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| 11:41 | <Gadi> dont forget to logout/login
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| 11:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thanxs
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| 11:41 | :)
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| 11:41 | <Gadi> np
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| 11:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yea yea :) thanxs
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| 11:41 | <One> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, Brazilian???
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| 11:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nop
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| 11:42 | i'm cuban
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| 11:42 | so is this fine then?
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| 11:42 | biblioteca:~# id pc1
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| 11:42 | uid=1005(pc1) gid=1005(pc1) grupos=1005(pc1),107(fuse)
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| 11:42 | <Gadi> yes
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| 11:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 11:42 | <cliebow> Gadi:so what holds scripts after init starts?rc.sysinit..in dapper?
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| 11:43 | <Gadi> cliebow: still same sysV init process
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| 11:43 | afaik
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| 11:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> One: ?
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| 11:45 | <One> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, hey
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| 11:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> 12:32 < One> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, Brazilian??? <- why ? :)
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| 11:45 | One: r u speak spanish?
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| 11:46 | <One> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, I thought you were Brazilian because the word "biblioteca" :)
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| 11:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hahaha
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| 11:46 | no.. i guess i'm only cuban person here
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| 11:46 | <One> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, It's the sabe work to call library in Brazilian Portuguese :)
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| 11:46 | ops......same
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| 11:46 | :)
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| 11:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> | |
| 11:47 | hopefully
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| 11:48 | * One has a poor English. Arghhhhh!!!!!!!!!1 | |
| 11:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> me 2!
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| 11:53 | <jammcq> http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/fudcon-boston-2007-k12ltsp.ogg
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| 11:53 | it seems that Warren is still very much interested in ltsp for fedora
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| 11:54 | <One> ow, 369.6MB
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| 12:44 | <a5benwillis> Whats the command to regenerate SSH keys?
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| 12:45 | <Gadi> ssh-keygen regenerates keys
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| 12:45 | if you just want to update the ltsp keys, do: ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 12:46 | <a5benwillis> ty
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| 12:46 | aboutto try xdmcp, again....
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| 12:46 | <Gadi> np: or, you can regenerate with dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server (I believe)
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| 12:53 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> jammcq: hey
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| 12:54 | <jammcq> hey
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| 12:55 | <a5benwillis> jammcq: Im working on xdmcp again.
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| 12:55 | jammcq: have time fora quickquestion?
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| 12:55 | <jammcq> a5benwillis: best way to find out, is to ask your question
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| 12:56 | <a5benwillis> just making sure you arent to busy.
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| 12:56 | Ithink I have it working
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| 12:56 | But shouldnt the login screen on my thin client be the same as the servers login? Im still seeing the white collered log in screen.
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| 12:57 | .
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| 12:57 | How can I tell for sure if Im using xdmcp for the connection?
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| 12:58 | <jammcq> check your "login manager" settings. by default, you get a very basic login for remote connections
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| 12:59 | <a5benwillis> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf??
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| 13:01 | gdm/conf-custom
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| 13:01 | remotegreeter=/usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter
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| 13:07 | <jammcq> a5benwillis: what distro?
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| 13:07 | on ubuntu, you can just configure this using the gui setup tool
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| 13:08 | <a5benwillis> ys, edubuntu
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| 13:08 | its all enabled. I just cant tell ifitsusing xdmcp or ldm.
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| 13:15 | <nick125-> hey ltspers!
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| 13:16 | <a5benwillis> anyone?
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| 13:17 | <cliebow> a5benwillis, so netstat -anp|grep ":177" shos it running?
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| 13:18 | <Lumiere> wow
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| 13:18 | UdontKnow is still staff
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| 13:19 | <cliebow> woo!
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| 13:19 | ?
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| 13:19 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: yes
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| 13:19 | <Lumiere> cliebow: I was previousally a fn staff member
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| 13:20 | <cliebow> ok
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| 13:20 | <Lumiere> well
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| 13:20 | I was an Open Projects Network staff member
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| 13:20 | and then an fn staff member XD
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| 13:21 | <cliebow> i dont know fn i guess
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| 13:21 | <UdontKnow> Lumiere: yes, I am
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| 13:22 | Lumiere: how goes?
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| 13:22 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> fn?
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| 13:22 | <nick125-> fun network!
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| 13:22 | <UdontKnow> freenode...
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| 13:23 | <nick125-> food network
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| 13:23 | <cliebow> Ahhhh
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| 13:23 | <nick125-> :-)
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| 13:23 | <cliebow> it wasnt freaking newbie like me 8~)
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| 13:29 | reboot..brb
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| 13:30 | <Lumiere> you'd think people'd figure out what fn was by now...
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| 13:30 | <nick125-> it stands for food network, right?
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| 13:32 | <Lumiere> what network are you on right now
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| 13:32 | and what are the first and fifth letters in its name
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| 13:32 | <nick125-> :)
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| 13:32 | I know
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| 13:50 | kaminski-ltsp-br is now known as kaminski-away | |
| 13:50 | * kaminski-away is back | |
| 13:50 | * kaminski-away is back | |
| 13:50 | * kaminski-away is back | |
| 13:50 | * kaminski-away is away: home | |
| 13:51 | <cliebow> ogra:so far nothing is borked using edubuntu-desktop on sun..
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| 13:51 | * nick125- doesn't care | |
| 13:51 | <zald> hi i already put the PRINTER_0_TYPE = U and PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usb/lp0 under /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc/ltsp.conf , but still when i install the printer on the workstation it does not detect by the system?
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| 13:52 | <nick125-> I know you guys get this question about 50 times a day, but, what distribution has the best ltsp support?
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| 13:52 | <zald> was there any other workaround with this problem?
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| 13:52 | <One> nick125-, IMHO Ubuntu and Debian
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| 13:53 | * One loves Debian :) | |
| 13:53 | <nick125-> I'm used to gentoo, but, since I'm setting up a dedicated xen VM for ltsp, might as well use what's most supported
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| 13:54 | I know gentoo's ltsp support is a bit iffy
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| 13:54 | <cliebow> not for long..mistik1 is on the case
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| 13:55 | <nick125-> I know there's a lot of work on ltsp in gentoo...
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| 13:58 | I might talk to whoever is in charge of gentoo ltsp development and see how I could help
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| 13:59 | <cliebow> sure:dberkholz is hot on the trail as well
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| 13:59 | <nick125-> I know there was a request for help on the gentoo-dev ml
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| 14:02 | * Gadi looks around for mistik1 | |
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| 14:03 | * nick125- pokes mistik1 / dberkholz | |
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| 14:20 | <mistik1> nick125-: dberkholz starting a layout of what the gentoo plugin for the ltsp-common-buildsystem would work I started working on the init scripts for the ltsp client but not much more as yet
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| 14:21 | Been a little busy lately as is dberkholz
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| 14:21 | Another set of eyes would be most welcome though
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| 14:22 | <mistik1> nick125-: You can take a look at what dberkholz was working on here, http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/ltsp
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| 14:23 | <Lumiere> hi mistik1
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| 14:23 | <mistik1> Hey man
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| 14:23 | ltns
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| 14:24 | <Lumiere> yea
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| 14:25 | <mistik1> Lumiere: You should be graduating soon, no?
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| 14:26 | <astroboy> Is 192.168.0.0 a standard IP for eth1 (WS01) ?
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| 14:26 | <jammcq> mistik1: yeah, like last year already :)
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| 14:26 | <Lumiere> lol
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| 14:27 | astroboy: that is an invalid IP address
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| 14:27 | <mistik1> my goodness time flies
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| 14:27 | <UdontKnow> mistik1: are you the mr. cOne?
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| 14:28 | mistik1: or am I mixing you up with another?
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| 14:28 | <mistik1> no i'm mistik1
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| 14:28 | <astroboy> OK, I'm using 169.254.65.14 ..
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| 14:28 | <UdontKnow> mistik1: saw you talking to Lumiere, and thought you'd be the same
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| 14:28 | <astroboy> Lumiere: don't know where that came from but it appeared first time I ran ltspcfg ..
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| 14:29 | <a5benwillis> mistik1: Good afternoon
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| 14:29 | <Lumiere> 169.254 is zeroconf
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| 14:29 | <Lumiere> UdontKnow: that is not mysticone
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| 14:29 | <mistik1> a5benwillis: good afternoon sir
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| 14:29 | <a5benwillis> Im a sick sick individual. I'm still trying to make SSH authentication work. Please shoot me.
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| 14:30 | <UdontKnow> Lumiere: yeah, just found him on whois
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| 14:30 | * Lumiere shoots a5benwillis | |
| 14:30 | <mistik1> hehe
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| 14:30 | * UdontKnow grabs a bazooka | |
| 14:30 | <UdontKnow> a5benwillis: still want a shot?
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| 14:30 | <astroboy> Lumiere: zeroconf ?
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| 14:31 | <a5benwillis> please, put me out of my misery
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| 14:31 | <jammcq> astroboy: 192.168.0.0 refers to the 'Network address', where the "host addresses" could be 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254
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| 14:31 | <a5benwillis> I just posted this in edubuntu, thought Ide ask here as well:
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| 14:32 | Can someone point me to some info on how to apply a patch to source via apt-get????
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| 14:32 | <astroboy> jammcq: Yes, those are the values I used last time for eth1/WS01 .. I don't know where the 169.254 came from. I'll use whatever works .. :-)
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| 14:34 | <jammcq> 169.254 is a "zero conf" address, probably setup for you by avahi or network-manager
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| 14:47 | <msaul> Hi is Jim there?
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| 14:47 | <jammcq> umm, lemme check
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| 14:47 | <msaul> Hi
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| 14:48 | I got the system running quite well!
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| 14:48 | <cliebow> nope guess not 8~)
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| 14:48 | <jammcq> cool
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| 14:48 | <msaul> The media works really well - and installing to church tomorrow
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| 14:48 | One thing
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| 14:48 | Sound for games on thin clients
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| 14:48 | <jammcq> there's always one thing :)
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| 14:49 | umm, there's *some* support for sound
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| 14:49 | Gadi: you care to help out here?
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| 14:49 | * jammcq sees Gadi run and hide | |
| 14:49 | * Lumiere sends in the sheep dogs | |
| 14:49 | <msaul> I'm running KDE 3.5
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| 14:50 | <mistik1> I'll be so glad when we no longer have to guess on sound support
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| 14:50 | <Gadi> heh, amen
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| 14:50 | is pulseaudio in feisty?
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| 14:50 | or is that +1+1+1?
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| 14:50 | <mistik1> yes
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| 14:50 | <Gadi> excellent
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| 14:50 | <mistik1> I for sure will use pulse in the gentoo model
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> what was the question?
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| 14:51 | ;)
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| 14:51 | <msaul> I get sound for
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| 14:52 | desktop notifications
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| 14:52 | and
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| 14:52 | Playing oggs
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| 14:52 | But the only sound when
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| 14:52 | <Gadi> sweet
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| 14:52 | <msaul> playing games
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| 14:52 | is "Kgolf"
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| 14:52 | <Gadi> which games?
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| 14:52 | <msaul> only kgolf
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| 14:52 | <mistik1> msaul: try to make a sentence ok
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| 14:52 | <Gadi> oh, ur running kde?
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| 14:52 | <msaul> yes
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| 14:53 | <Gadi> are you using esd?
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| 14:53 | <msaul> arts daemon is running
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| 14:53 | yes set to esd network
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| 14:53 | <Gadi> hmm... well, if the games bypass arts (which is using esd) then that sux
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| 14:54 | you can try launching them with either "esddsp" or "artsdsp"
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| 14:54 | but, silly that they should bypass arts if they are kde apps
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| 14:54 | <msaul> is that an option for the command?
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| 14:54 | ie. -- esddsp ?
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| 14:54 | <Gadi> if they are not kde apps, you may need to set up gstreamer as well
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| 14:55 | (to use esddsp, open terminal window and type: esddsp <command>)
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| 14:55 | <msaul> Let me try that now
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| 14:55 | <Gadi> to configure gstreamer, try running "gstreamer-porperties"
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| 14:55 | er, gstreamer-properties
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| 14:56 | <astroboy> jammcq: .. so the fixed address for WS01 should be 192.168.0.2 .. ?
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| 14:57 | <msaul> esddsp before command didn't work - trying gstreamer
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| 14:57 | <Gadi> bbiab
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| 14:57 | <jammcq> that's a reasonable address for a workstation, assuming nothing else on the network already has that address
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| 14:58 | <msaul> I got the Multimedia
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| 14:58 | sorry
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| 14:58 | I got the multimedia systems selector dialog box
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| 14:58 | <Gadi> change audio sink to esd
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| 14:58 | and hit the test button
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| 14:59 | <astroboy> jammcq: Thx
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| 14:59 | <msaul> I generates a pulpe
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| 14:59 | <Gadi> i love pulpe
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| 14:59 | extra pulpe
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| 14:59 | :)
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| 14:59 | <msaul> I mean a pulse (and its not even 4 pm yet)
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> great
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| 15:00 | now try playing a game
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| 15:00 | <KeepWalking_> hi all
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| 15:00 | <msaul> The default input plugin is ALSA
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| 15:00 | <KeepWalking_> is there any way to boot with RTL 8029 _
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| 15:00 | ?
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> msaul: thats fine
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| 15:00 | we only care about output
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| 15:00 | <msaul> OK - testing now
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| 15:01 | Frozen bubble doesn't work - but someone mentioned it might not..
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| 15:01 | Trying another game...
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| 15:03 | <KeepWalking_> is there any way to boot with RTL 8029 ?
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| 15:03 | help please
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| 15:03 | <Gadi> KeepWalking_: does the universal boot floppy pick it up?
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| 15:03 | <msaul> Doesn't play with supertux (I recall that had sound)
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| 15:04 | <KeepWalking_> Gadi: universal boot floppy disk?? where can i get it?? LoL
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| 15:04 | <msaul> I'm going to logout and reboot thin client
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| 15:05 | <Gadi> KeepWalking_: I have to look it up
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| 15:05 | its a k12ltsp thingie
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| 15:05 | floating around
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| 15:05 | <astroboy> msaul: likewise ..
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| 15:05 | <msaul> :)
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| 15:06 | <Gadi> KeepWalking_: ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy
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| 15:09 | <msaul> thin client is coming up
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| 15:11 | <msaul> I tested out several games, but no sound unfortunately
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| 15:11 | oggs still play, etc. but no sound on games
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| 15:12 | I checked gstreamer-properties and set to esdsnk
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| 15:13 | <Gadi> try: artsdsp <command>
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| 15:14 | <msaul> That will only work on executable files right?
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| 15:14 | <Gadi> the games should be executable :)
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| 15:17 | <msaul> doesn't work with supertux
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| 15:17 | <mistik1> Wow, udev rocks so hard
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| 15:17 | <KeepWalking_> if ubd found my card, giveme the mac, its possible that pxelinux.0 be not valid for my nic?
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| 15:17 | <msaul> On the server (not the thin client) the sound works for supertux
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| 15:17 | No sound for supertux on thin client though
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| 15:18 | <Gadi> KeepWalking_: if you use that boot floppy, ur using etherboot not PXE
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| 15:18 | <msaul> after running artsdsp gamename
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| 15:18 | <KeepWalking_> so i have to boot with vmlinuz right?
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| 15:18 | <Gadi> yup
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| 15:18 | <KeepWalking_> ok, i try
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| 15:19 | <Gadi> msaul: hmm...
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| 15:19 | <msaul> did you want me to show ps -ef | grep artsd
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| 15:20 | <Gadi> nah, I believe its there
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| 15:20 | :)
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| 15:21 | <Gadi> msaul: try this: strings <gamename> |grep -i esd
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| 15:22 | sorry <gamename> = full path to game executable
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| 15:22 | most likely /usr/bin/gamename
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| 15:23 | <mistik1> or /usr/games/bin/gamename in gentoo ;-)
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| 15:23 | <Gadi> someone's had his wheaties
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| 15:23 | <msaul> I did full pathname for game when issuing your command , no stdout
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| 15:24 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 15:24 | if the game write straight to /dev/dsp, you could be out of luck
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| 15:25 | do you know if these are games that the k12ltsp'ers use?
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| 15:25 | * Gadi is not in lower education except for when I teach myself :) | |
| 15:25 | <msaul> frozen-bubble, but I think that game writes to /dev/dsp
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| 15:26 | <Gadi> the other thing you can try is using NAS instead of esd
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| 15:26 | <msaul> I'm trying Tux Math
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| 15:26 | <Gadi> sometimes NAS will capture even the /dev/dsp calls
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| 15:27 | i believe
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| 15:27 | <msaul> OK - I'm using Edubuntu 6.10
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| 15:27 | <Gadi> with KDE?
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| 15:27 | <msaul> Yes
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| 15:27 | <Gadi> isnt there some blasphemy there?
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| 15:27 | * Gadi guesses there's no kedubuntu | |
| 15:28 | <msaul> Hey, give the people at the organization what they want
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| 15:28 | I'm having enough fun trying to convince them that open source
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| 15:28 | isn't communism
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| 15:28 | <Gadi> oh, but it is
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| 15:28 | :)
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| 15:28 | <msaul> I live in a small town - long live the revolution
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| 15:29 | <Gadi> communism and a meritocracy
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| 15:29 | <msaul> Anyways, do I also change the lts.conf file to indicate NAS?
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| 15:29 | <Gadi> you would need to change lts.conf to NAS and the arts backend
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| 15:29 | also, turn the buffering in arts down to the lowest setting
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| 15:30 | <msaul> Soundserver crashing when set to NAS
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| 15:30 | <Gadi> yeah, kde is buggy
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| 15:30 | :)
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| 15:30 | <ogra> Gadi, edubuntu ships gnome with KDE apps, why should it be blasphemic ? ;)
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| 15:30 | * Gadi never understood kde's quirks | |
| 15:31 | <Gadi> ogra: just checking. gotta tow the party line in this communist regime
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| 15:31 | ;)
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| 15:31 | <ogra> heh
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| 15:31 | <msaul> Gotta go, but I will check out a few hints you gave me.
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| 15:31 | <Gadi> brb
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| 15:31 | <msaul> Thanks for the info todate and the political support ;)
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| 15:32 | <ogra> luckily pulse will solve most of these sound problems ....
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| 15:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ermm
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| 15:37 | have a question again
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| 15:37 | when i mount a floppy example
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| 15:37 | ltsp show me a carpet with this
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| 15:37 | i work with floppy
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| 15:37 | and extract
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| 15:37 | when i insert other to can work
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| 15:37 | ltsp add OTHER carpet floppy
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| 15:37 | and not remove before
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| 15:38 | so NOW
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| 15:38 | have like 15 carpet floppy
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| 15:38 | where can i delete all that files?
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| 15:38 | i see into $USER/Desktop
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| 15:38 | and only have
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| 15:38 | floppy.desktop iceweasel.desktop
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| 15:40 | and manually can't delete by clients
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| 15:40 | any idea?
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| 16:07 | <msaul> Hi ogra, is pulse a reference to Edubuntu 7.04 ?
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| 16:08 | <ogra> msaul, 7.04 will have pulseaudio for ltsp, yes
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| 16:09 | <msaul> So I can upgrade in the very near future and probably will solve problem - right?
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| 16:10 | <ogra> yep
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| 16:11 | <msaul> OK, I'll do that - I'll play around for a while on my own, but upgrade to fix problem.
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| 16:11 | <ogra> only apps that access libesd or /dev/dsp directly wont work ... all other stuff is covered by pulse, it emulates and alsa card and esd
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| 16:11 | <msaul> Thanks for the help,
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| 16:11 | We are installing Edubuntu into a lot of high schools up in Toronto, Ontario Canada
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| 16:12 | If ever you want to come up to Seneca College to attend an Open Source Symposium (Jim M. did a few year ago), just let me know
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| 16:12 | My e-mail address is murray.saul@senecac.on.ca
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| 16:12 | <ogra> how far from winnipeg is that ?
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| 16:13 | <jammcq> heh
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| 16:13 | 2 hours by plane
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| 16:13 | <msaul> Closer than Jim has to travel
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| 16:13 | <ogra> heh
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| 16:13 | <msaul> just kidding
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| 16:13 | all the best, and keep up the great work
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| 16:13 | <jammcq> I can drive there, door-to-door in about the same time it takes scotty to fly there
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| 16:14 | <msaul> WIth the cost of gas - which method is cheaper :)
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| 16:14 | l8r
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| 18:08 | <a5benwillis> bah
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| 18:34 | <cliebow> a5benwillis guess you dont want to talk about it..
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| 18:50 | <a5benwillis> man, Im just soooo close
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| 18:51 | I started messing with the ssh auth again. tried a different approach but still not working exactly right.
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| 18:56 | ping ogra
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| 19:04 | .
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| 19:05 | Well, if anyones around and wants to take a look at my auth.log snipit of a login heres the link:
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| 19:05 | .
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| 19:05 | http://pastebin.com/891058
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| 19:05 | .
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| 19:09 | <cliebow> looking
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| 19:10 | for what giood it will do
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| 19:13 | <a5benwillis> thanks for trying
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| 19:15 | it looks like it should work eh?
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| 19:18 | <cliebow> having trouble with pastebin
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| 19:19 | <a5benwillis> its always slow
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| 19:21 | <cliebow> this home machine has only 128 meg of ram..on a wireless connection from god knows where anyway
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| 19:22 | <a5benwillis> the pastbin machine or yours?
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| 19:22 | <cliebow> mine
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| 19:22 | <a5benwillis> oh lol
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| 19:24 | <mistik1> a5benwillis: can you paste that to rafb.net/paste
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| 19:24 | pastebin is just too bloody slow for usage
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| 19:24 | <a5benwillis> no doubt, brb
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| 19:26 | <mistik1> Wow, it finally loaded
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| 19:26 | <a5benwillis> rafb.net/p/oKiIQL82.html
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| 19:28 | <mistik1> not found
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| 19:28 | <cliebow> me too
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| 19:29 | <a5benwillis> WAIT
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| 19:29 | guys!
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| 19:29 | its working!!!!
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| 19:29 | <cliebow> with ldm?
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| 19:29 | dont know where you are with it
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| 19:30 | <a5benwillis> well, no. Just testing an ssh session since Im at home
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| 19:30 | <cliebow> alpha blondie
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| 19:30 | !
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| 19:30 | <a5benwillis> I need to change to a different context to be really sure though
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| 19:31 | if ssh works, and creates the home directory then ldm should work
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| 19:31 | <cliebow> gotta Give you credit..for sticking to it...
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| 19:31 | pam_mkhomedir?
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| 19:32 | <a5benwillis> no, the ncp module handles it all. But I think it makes its own call to that pam module
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| 19:32 | <cliebow> k
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| 19:33 | <a5benwillis> man, if its true this is AWESOME!
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| 19:33 | * cliebow cliebow waits for a5 to scream.NOOO | |
| 19:35 | <cliebow> ive been WOOt to BALLS today
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| 19:35 | <jammcq> heh, new language ?
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| 19:35 | <cliebow> yep
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| 19:36 | i got assigned a sun server to incorporate..
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| 19:36 | <daniQ> cliebow?
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| 19:36 | <cliebow> daniQ:!!
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| 19:36 | <daniQ> is leigh still awake?
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| 19:37 | <cliebow> she is at dog class til 930
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| 19:37 | <daniQ> ohhhhh
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| 19:37 | <cliebow> can i pass a msg?
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| 19:37 | <daniQ> dog class...
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| 19:37 | <cliebow> gd poodle
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| 19:37 | <daniQ> i need advice on colors for our house
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| 19:37 | interior stuff
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| 19:38 | yellow kitchen, green sleeping rooms, blue livingroom....
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| 19:38 | <cliebow> weelll i am SURE i cant help..there..linen white head to toe
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| 19:38 | <daniQ> i don't want it to look like a zoo
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| 19:38 | <cliebow> HAAAA
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| 19:38 | <daniQ> ha!
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| 19:39 | <cliebow> as i say..Leigh is the one to talk to you..i am more the antique grease stain motif..
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| 19:39 | <a5benwillis> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!
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| 19:39 | <daniQ> so is my man....i could borrow turlough to get greasy face stains on the furnature
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| 19:39 | <cliebow> Hot Damn! you did it
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| 19:40 | <a5benwillis> you better believe it!
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| 19:40 | <jammcq> a5benwillis: it workie ?
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| 19:40 | <a5benwillis> yes sir!
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| 19:40 | <cliebow> anytime..you can have a twosome
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| 19:40 | <jammcq> coool
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| 19:40 | <cliebow> write your notes down..if you have ANY idea what the hell you did
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| 19:40 | <a5benwillis> now to make sure I can duplicate it.
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| 19:41 | I built a new server today, I can test it there tomorrow and make some documentation.
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| 19:41 | <Gadi> use ubuntu's built in logging system: sudo rm -rf /*
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| 19:41 | (jk)
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| 19:41 | good work, a5benwillis
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| 19:41 | <cliebow> this fro,m a new install.then..shouldnt have to think back more than oonhh 6 or 7 hundred commands
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| 19:42 | <a5benwillis> I still need to make sure LDM will work but as clean as the logs look you cant tell that it isnt a normal log in now.
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| 19:42 | <cliebow> Gadi: dont even think it!!
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| 19:42 | <a5benwillis> Gadi: Thanks! I almost gave up today to.
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| 19:43 | <cliebow> i give up every day at least twice..
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| 19:43 | blame it on Gadi mostly
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| 19:43 | <Gadi> lol
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| 19:44 | <cliebow> Gadi: you are working late..
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| 19:44 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 19:45 | but, glad i was around to hear the WOOOT
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| 19:45 | <cliebow> your family Needs you 8~)
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| 19:45 | <mistik1> a5benwillis: congrats man, way to stick to it
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| 19:46 | <a5benwillis> thanks
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| 19:46 | I just hope that it can help someone else one day.
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| 19:46 | I would like to thank the academy, my wife and......
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| 19:46 | :-)
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| 19:46 | <cliebow> we'll need an epilogue..after all the heartache..
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| 19:46 | and some serious documentation
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| 19:47 | <a5benwillis> Now to talk the guys at OpenSSH to include the code in the next release!
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| 19:48 | <cliebow> open source at its best!!!!
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| 19:50 | <jammcq> a5benwillis: good luck with that
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| 19:50 | the openssh guys are pretty tough about accepting anything new
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| 19:50 | <Gadi> specially when it sidesteps their own code ;)
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| 19:51 | <mistik1> that's for sure
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| 19:53 | <a5benwillis> the patch is their own code.
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| 19:53 | Its from them, just not included in the current release nor really tested until now.
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| 20:20 | <daniQ> night
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| 20:30 | <a5benwillis> Guys, can you think of anyway for me to test LDM remotely?
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| 20:30 | would ssh -X work?
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| 20:34 | <cliebow> hmmm
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| 20:37 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: come to edubuntu
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| 20:37 | <cliebow> there
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| 23:02 | <mathesis> hi
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| 23:02 | se vagrantc
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| 23:05 | <mistik1> vagrantc: hey
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| 23:06 | I've got a working script for you
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| 23:31 | Well good night folks
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| 23:47 | <vagrantc> mistik1: script for what?
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| 23:49 | mathesis: hi
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| 23:49 | <mathesis> its over there
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