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Channel log from 14 June 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:23 | <gymeleou> !buttons_location
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| 02:23 | <ltspbot> gymeleou: Error: "buttons_location" is not a valid command.
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| 02:24 | <gymeleou> !buttons_layout
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| 02:24 | <ltspbot> gymeleou: Error: "buttons_layout" is not a valid command.
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| 02:24 | <gymeleou> !button_layout
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| 02:24 | <ltspbot> gymeleou: "button_layout" :: To revert the Ubuntu button position and ordering to their old values, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout menu:minimize,maximize,close
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| 03:12 | <abeehc> !ltsp.conf
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| 03:12 | <ltspbot> abeehc: Error: "ltsp.conf" is not a valid command.
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| 03:12 | <abeehc> !parameters
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| 03:12 | <ltspbot> abeehc: Error: "parameters" is not a valid command.
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| 03:13 | <dobber> !lts.conf
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| 03:13 | <ltspbot> dobber: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 03:13 | <rickogden> hi all, what do I put in lts.conf to make gnome the default session?
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| 03:15 | <abeehc> ty
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| 03:56 | <rickogden> does anyone know why I would get the error "failed to connect to NBD server" when I set NBD_SWAP to false in the lts.conf?
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| 04:13 | <alkisg> NBD_SWAP is false by default
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| 04:13 | So it shouldn't matter if you set it to false..
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| 04:21 | <rickogden> alkisg: hi, I'm trying to get round the problem of needing to break on boot
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| 04:21 | <alkisg> Ah. This does have nothing to do with swapping
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| 04:21 | NBD serves the virtual client hard disk, /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 04:22 | <rickogden> ah right
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| 04:22 | <alkisg> Here's a bug that I filed for nbd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/420587
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| 04:23 | This is _not_ your problem, but it's the same problem on another script (ltsp_nbd instead of just nbd)
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| 04:23 | <rickogden> ah right
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| 04:23 | <alkisg> So file a bug in launchpad about this. To work around it, insert a delay in ltsp_nbd
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| 04:23 | <rickogden> is there any work-around that you suggest (such as sleep for a few seconds)?
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| 04:24 | where's ltsp_nbd, in the client chroot or on the server?
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| 04:24 | <alkisg> The client chroot
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| 04:24 | you need to update the kernel afterwards - not the image
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| 04:24 | (chroot update-initramfs -u && ltsp-update-kernels)
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| 04:24 | <rickogden> thanks
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| 04:25 | <alkisg> File the bug there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
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| 04:25 | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd
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| 04:26 | <rickogden> where should I put the delay?
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| 04:26 | <alkisg> After this line: ip link set lo up
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| 04:26 | put `sleep 5 ` there...
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| 04:27 | What are your client specs? So that I try to get my hands on a similar client to reproduce this...
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| 04:27 | <rickogden> erm... one sec, they're new computers, I'll get the details
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| 04:28 | 3ghz core2duo, 4gb RAM
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| 04:32 | <garymc> hi guys im trying to add a new user account in the terminal window. I have forgot the command
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| 04:32 | sudo add user?
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| 04:32 | doesnt work
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| 04:33 | <rickogden> sudo adduser
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| 04:33 | <garymc> that dont work either
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| 04:33 | <rickogden> does useradd work?
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| 04:33 | <garymc> no
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| 04:34 | :(
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| 04:34 | <alkisg> garymc: distro/version?
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| 04:34 | <garymc> i know its a simple command. just forgot
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| 04:34 | Im ubunto
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| 04:34 | <rickogden> how is it authenticating? Using /etc/passwd?
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| 04:34 | or an external system (eg. LDAP)?
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| 04:34 | <garymc> i know its just add user or something like that
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| 04:34 | <alkisg> garymc: try `sudo adduser`. It should work.
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| 04:34 | <klausade> garymc: what is the error message when you try adduser?
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| 04:34 | <alkisg> If not, paste the error message on pastebin.
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| 04:35 | (sudo adduser username - don't forget the username)
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| 04:35 | <rickogden> garymc: adduser is the interactive way of adding users in ubuntu
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| 04:35 | <garymc> damn i forgot to add the name after sudo adduser JOHN
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| 04:35 | whoops.... thanks guys
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| 04:35 | <rickogden> :)
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| 05:05 | <rickogden> is this guide valid for Lucid? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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| 05:07 | <alkisg> Localdev should work out of the box on any recent ubuntu versions
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| 05:07 | <rickogden> ah ok... doesn't seem to be with my weird setup :/
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| 05:08 | I'm working through the debug
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| 05:08 | <alkisg> LOCALDEV is true by default, and all the ltspfs* software is preinstalled
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| 05:08 | I think also in lucid it isn't even necessary to add the clients to the fuse group
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| 05:09 | What are you trying with? A usb stick? An internal disk?
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| 05:09 | <rickogden> both
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| 05:09 | and neither are mounted
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| 05:09 | <alkisg> Internal disks need another parameter which isn't enabled by default
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| 05:10 | LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=False
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| 05:11 | <rickogden> the entry is in the ltspfs_fstab
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| 05:11 | I'm not too bothered about the local disk (for the moment)
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| 05:11 | just pen drive
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| 05:11 | <alkisg> What file system does it have?
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| 05:11 | <rickogden> fat32
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| 05:12 | and it's correct in the ltspfs_fstab file
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| 05:16 | alkisg: where does it mount to by default?
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| 05:29 | <alkisg> There are some (a little oudated) localdev debugging steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev - but I don't know about any details as I don't usually use localdevs...
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| 05:33 | <rickogden> alkisg, yeah I've worked my way through them
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| 05:33 | I'm just about to do step 4
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| 05:33 | but the others are all perfect
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| 05:34 | however /var/run/drives/usbdsik-sdb1/ (which is where it says the mountpoint is), is empty... so I'm not sure what's happening there
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| 05:37 | <klausade> rickogden: I recently had a fight with ltspfs (mounting usb-drives), turned out that my users wasn't properly added to the fuse group when they logged on. Make sure that "id username" mentions group membership in fuse. Worth a try.
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| 05:38 | <rickogden> klausade: yeah, they are
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| 05:39 | however, doing step 4 it has come up with NXFOLDER is (null) and NX_ROOT is (null)
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| 05:39 | not sure why it's coming up with the NX stuff
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| 08:29 | <leifnel> Hi. I have a "normal" ltsp, where pxelinux.cfg/default is kernel ltsp/i386/vmlinuz ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img quiet root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp boot=nfs
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| 08:30 | This gets its root from /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 08:30 | Then I have made a kiosk, which is in /opt/ltsp/kiosk/i386
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| 08:31 | <leifnel> How Do I add this to the option line in pxelinux.cfg/default?
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| 08:31 | <Appiah> what option?
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| 08:31 | just edit the current one?
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| 08:32 | <leifnel> to get root from /opt/ltsp/kiosk/i386 instead of /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 08:33 | <Appiah> thats in the dhcp option
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| 08:33 | <leifnel> root=/dev/nfs doesn't tell that it's /opt/ltsp/i386, but that what it gets root from.
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| 08:33 | <leifnel> so it must be default
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| 08:33 | <Appiah> "next-server" if you are using a *nix dhcp server
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| 08:33 | dhcpd.conf
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| 08:34 | ops wait
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| 08:34 | not next server
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| 08:34 | <Appiah> option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 08:34 | thats what the line looks like
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| 08:34 | edit that one
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| 08:35 | <leifnel> But I like it in pxelinux.cfg/options, so I can select different ways, kiosk, normal, install etc
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| 08:35 | <Appiah> so you want a boot menu? :)
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| 08:35 | <leifnel> I have one, yes.
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| 08:37 | http://pastebin.com/qvA4Hwkr
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| 08:38 | It must be possible to put root-path in boot menu
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| 08:39 | <Appiah> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
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| 08:39 | nfsroot= [NFS] nfs root filesystem for disk-less boxes. See Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt.
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| 08:40 | http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt
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| 08:42 | <leifnel> Trying that now. (Love vmware emulation)
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| 08:44 | Kiosk got started now, but I also edited dhcpd.conf. Trying to put it back
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| 08:47 | Yup. Works perfectly now. Thanx :-)
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| 08:57 | <leifnel> I'm back :-) If I want different startpages for different kiosks, how do I do that without having a complete root for each kiosk?
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| 08:58 | Oh well, like Scarlet O'Hara: I'll think about that tomorrow :-)
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| 08:58 | bye
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| 14:48 | <bieb> hello ltsp'ers
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| 18:55 | <Guest70438> hi could someone point me in the right direction, what i want to do is be able to vnc onto a diskless client
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| 19:03 | hello
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| 19:16 | <johnny> this isn't a good time for this channel
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| 19:16 | best times are during business hours of western europe /usa
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| 19:16 | i'm here, but i don't feel like googling the answer
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| 19:16 | i don't know it myself
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| 20:55 | <Guest70438> k thanks, by the way i have tried googling it and havent been successfully obviously :) this is y I am here asking the question.
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| 21:36 | <johnny> Guest70438, then either come back in 12 hours, or post to the discuss list
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| 22:01 | <Guest70438> k thanks Johnny will do
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| 22:01 | appreciate your help
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| 23:51 | <cyberorg> Guest70438, italc is what you need
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