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| 03:37 | <fuzzmew> attempting install on mint linux 17.3 sonya
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| 03:37 | attempted using the pnp method
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| 06:06 | <fiesh> I thought there were some issues with linux mint, but don't quote me on that
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| 06:17 | <alkisg> I don't know of any ltsp issues specific to linux mint. But I do know that mint is broken because it tries to be a distro and not a flavor, and fails.
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| 06:17 | fuzzmew: ping me if you are ever around and able to chat (meaning, not one response per day :))
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| 06:20 | <fuzzmew> I should be up for a few hourse now, if your still there I am here
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| 06:24 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: yup; also use "alkisg" when not having a conversation already, because it produces sound and people can be notified that you're talking to them
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| 06:24 | fuzzmew: what's the output of `sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
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| 06:25 | <fuzzmew> like this? "alkisg"
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> Right
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| 06:27 | You can also use <tab> to autocomplete, e.g. I type "fu" and <tab> and it autocompletes your username
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| 06:27 | <fuzzmew> "alkisg" sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 06:27 | No LSB modules are available.
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| 06:27 | http://termbin.com/6eiu
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| 06:28 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: eh, ltsp-cluster isn't maintained anymore, did you really want that?
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| 06:28 | Finally, you seem to use two chroots, and not ltsp-pnp
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| 06:28 | ltsp-pnp doesn't use chroots at all
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| 06:32 | <fuzzmew> OH poop
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| 06:32 | I wondered why it did not drop an image
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| 06:33 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: so, if you want to use ltsp-pnp, try these: sudo -i; mkdir /opt/ltsp.bak; mv /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp.bak; mv /opt/ltsp/amd64 /opt/ltsp.bak; ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 06:33 | (or delete them completely instead of moving them elsewhere)
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| 06:34 | <fuzzmew> ok so delete /opt/ltsp all together?
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| 06:35 | alkisg: or just delete the i386 and amd64 directories?
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| 06:35 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: OK, just delete all of /opt/ltsp
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| 06:36 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: ok
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| 06:36 | <alkisg> And delete /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp as well (keep lts.conf if you need it)
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| 06:36 | After deletion, run: sudo ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 06:36 | This will produce them correctly
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| 06:39 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: uh on, what does this mean?
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| 06:39 | alkisg: ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 06:39 | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on overlay,
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| 06:39 | missing codepage or helper program, or other error
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| 06:39 | In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
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| 06:39 | dmesg | tail or so.
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| 06:39 | Could not mount /tmp/tmp.lBLwdf4kNT/root/etc/group.
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: what's the output of `cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
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| 06:42 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 06:42 | http://termbin.com/erso
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| 06:42 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: are you in docker or something?
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| 06:43 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: docker? no just a terminal on the localhost
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| 06:43 | <alkisg> How can you mount a partition in a file? /dev/sda2 /etc/passwd ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
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| 06:44 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: I was not aware of that.
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| 06:44 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: can you try a reboot? This doesn't sound good...
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| 06:44 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: ok will do a restart
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| 06:44 | <alkisg> OK, pastebin the cat /proc/mounts after a restart
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| 06:55 | <fuzzmew> https://pastebin.com/xpD1k3pC
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| 07:00 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: can you think what weird software you have that would mount /dev/sda2 in /etc/passwd?
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| 07:00 | E.g. some kind of custom authentication?
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| 07:00 | Some kind of virtualization?
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| 07:00 | A weird file system?
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| 07:01 | Also, whats is "fts"? fts /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg
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| 07:02 | fuzzmew: I'm reluctant to propose things in such a weird setup. Can I have a look with VNC?
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| 07:02 | !vnc-edide
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| 07:02 | <ltsp> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 07:03 | <alkisg> !vnc-dide
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| 07:03 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 07:07 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: I'm suspecting it might be related to ltsp-cluster
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| 07:07 | This is not maintained anymore, noone uses it. Can I remove it to see?
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| 07:08 | <fuzzmew> yes
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| 07:10 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: ok, can you reboot now and see if the weird mounts are gone?
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| 07:11 | <fuzzmew> Ok will do I be back
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| 07:19 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: whups wrong window. I'm back
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| 07:19 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: nice, upload the mount output again
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| 07:21 | <fuzzmew> https://pastebin.com/UZaZfdwj
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: that's still broken :(
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| 07:24 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: boy this is so weird
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| 07:24 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: anyways this isn't an ltsp issue, if you solve those issues then ltsp will work too
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| 07:25 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: Yeah I thought there was something screwy with this server. I don't know what I did to bunge it up, maybe remove any and all ltsp stuff from repository
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| 07:26 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: I don't think it's related to ltsp
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| 07:26 | <fuzzmew> alkisg: Ok
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| 07:33 | alkisg: I wonder if there is a way to run cinnamon in ubuntu like mint does?
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| 07:33 | <alkisg> fuzzmew: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cinnamon
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| 07:34 | I see it as a package, so I assume you can install it
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| 10:36 | <SYS64738> oddio quanto mi era mancato xchat
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> SYS64738: english?
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| 10:59 | <SYS64738> wrong chat :)
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| 12:14 | <danboid> alkisg, Hi
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> Hello danboid
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| 12:18 | <danboid> alkisg, Hi!
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| 12:19 | <danboid> I'm just about to try booting 16.04 over LTSP on a different machine but on the first machine I tried it didn't restart or shutdown properly - known issue?
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| 12:20 | It would get to the final stage of shutdown/reboot then I'd have to power cycle it
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> It's a known issue in 18.04. Not a known issue in 16.04.
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| 12:21 | <danboid> Its happened with 16.04 here
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| 12:21 | <alkisg> OK, it would need troubleshooting then, maybe a backport of the 18.04 fix etc
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| 12:21 | <danboid> I've got a few small suggestions relating to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> What suggestions?
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| 12:22 | Btw, I'll probably delete that page in september and upload a new one in ltsp.org
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| 12:22 | Along with the ltsp-config modifications I'll implement till then
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| 12:23 | <danboid> Oh OK. What I was going to suggest is that page should be linked on http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation
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| 12:23 | and
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| 12:26 | I can't find the page now but an extra section needs to be added to 'Relevant bug reports' that links to that ltsp-manager bug report that covers the fix for if /dev/nbd0 is missing
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| 12:27 | You sent me a link to it when I had that problem
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| 12:32 | <alkisg> That's only an issue in 16.04 as it's fixed since then
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