IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 June 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:21 | <komunista> hi all
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| 05:22 | alkisg: some progress now
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| 05:22 | the oldest clients complains about missing PAE
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| 05:22 | the new one complains about NFS
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| 05:28 | when I switch to kernel without PAE, the old one tells /sbin/init not found and then kernel panic
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| 07:42 | <vagrantc> ugh.
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| 07:43 | i had word that my overlay fs issues with NFS are over... turns out overlay fs isn't working for NFS or even NBD+squashfs in debian at the moment
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| 08:50 | <alkisg> ...where *is* it working?!!!
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| 13:19 | <vagrantc> ok, the fundamental problem is a lack of /sbin/init ...
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| 13:19 | that was one assumption we made that i would have never imagined to cease to be
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| 13:37 | <vagrantc> systemd-sysv or sysvinit-core need to be installed
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| 13:42 | of course, ldm doesn't start...
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| 14:11 | <vagrantc> ok, ldm didn't start because the it doesn't appear to support qxl video... but with a more conventional video setting, it worked.
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> "the it"?
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| 14:28 | <vagrantc> alkisg: ldm
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| 14:28 | or rather, xserver-xorg-video-qxl didn't work with ldm
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> In kvm?
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| 14:28 | <vagrantc> changed the video used by virt-manager to cirrus and everything was fine.
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> Cool... btw I think some backports would also be nice
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| 14:29 | <vagrantc> proxydhcp is working with virt-manager's default networking ... but not very well.
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> Maybe some little fixes, one release + backports, and then on to adding new features like multiseat
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| 14:29 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, i was planning on doing some backports, or possibly getting a new DM to help with them. :)
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> I think that'd be a great start for my DM career :D
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| 14:30 | We'll probably switch a school to Debian/LTSP this year, as a test drive
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| 14:39 | <vagrantc> alkisg: so, i've got ltsp working with NFS+overlay fs again ...
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Yey!
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| 14:39 | Any issues left?
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| 14:42 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it requires adding an option that wasn't introduced in the kernel till january of 2016
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| 14:42 | no sure if that will cause problems with older versions of ubuntu
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> Which option?
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| 14:43 | <vagrantc> wait a minute
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| 14:43 | i think it doesn't require the option at all.
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| 14:43 | ah, qxl fails with 16-bit color depth
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| 14:43 | separate isseu
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| 14:44 | * vagrantc checks the overlay issue | |
| 14:45 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'm tempted to switch back to nfs only...
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| 14:45 | well, nfs by default
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| 14:45 | alkisg: i suspect it will be your job to convince me not to :)
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| 14:45 | <alkisg> vagrantc: with fat clients, the "5 times faster" is a big deal...
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| 14:45 | <vagrantc> true true
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| 14:45 | <alkisg> Haha, sure
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| 14:48 | <||cw> nfs++
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| 14:49 | be nice if someone could make kernel server perform better without using async
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| 14:49 | <alkisg> vagrantc: also, ltsp-pnp will probably be unsafe with nfs
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| 14:49 | But it would make a good default for ltsp in general
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| 14:49 | (can't run the cleanup.d phase with nfs, at least not without snapshots...)
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| 19:16 | <professor_> oi
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| 19:51 | <vagrantc> ok, so ltsp-client-core just needs to depend on "init" hah.
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> To chain to /sbin/init?
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| 19:52 | What does the kernel do, check for multiple files there?
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| 19:52 | <vagrantc> it ensures that /sbin/init exists
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| 19:52 | it's just a chain of dependency packages
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| 19:52 | <maldridge> one of the very few checks that will lead to an automatic panic if it fails
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| 19:52 | <vagrantc> which ensures that /sbin/init points to something
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| 19:53 | the short of it is that "init" was removed from the "essential" set of packages
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| 19:54 | and so debootstrap --variant=minbase didn't install it
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| 19:56 | <alkisg> Ah so no systemd at all there, ok got it
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| 19:57 | * vagrantc was pretty happy to see that proxydhcp worked with libvirt's default network | |
| 19:57 | <vagrantc> well, 2 out of 3 times
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