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Channel log from 24 April 2015 (all times are UTC)

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09:37	<Gasp0de> Hi everyone. Anyone here to give me some tips with my ltsp installation?
09:38	Im trying to do the following:
09:40	I have set up an ltsp server on xubuntu, and i can boot into it, so far everything is great. Now, i want the users to be able to start a wine program. Wine and the program work fine, yet i need all of the users to work on the same directory. The suggested way to do this is to create a wine user, and then have all users start wine as the wine user using sudo -u
09:41	as far as i know, this will not be a good solution for running it on the clients, e.g. i don't know if it's possible, or advisable, to use sudo -u on a client?
09:42	<alkisg> Are you sure the program can handle multiple users?
09:42	If it's a portable program that doesn't need to write to its own directory, put it in /usr/share/app and create a launcher
09:44	<Gasp0de> It is portable, but it does have to write to it's own directory
09:44	<alkisg> To its own directory or to the current directory?
09:44	<Gasp0de> the program can handle multiple users, it is supposed to be opened by several users via a windows network share
09:45	It is a .exe file and it will write to the directory where the .exe is in
09:45	Will it be a possible solution to use a remote app with the sudo -u way?
09:45	<alkisg> Then you could probably put all those users in a group and make that directory group-writable
09:46	Thin or fat clients?
09:46	<Gasp0de> fat
09:46	<alkisg> Thin clients can use sudo -u
09:46	Fats, usually no, you should do it with a group instead
09:46	<Gasp0de> ok
09:47	but am i mistaken that with the "remote app" thing, the command will be run on the server itself?
09:47	i saw it here somewhere: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation/fat-clients
09:47	<alkisg> Why do you want to run it as a remoteapp?
09:48	<Gasp0de> The program is very slow when multiple clients run on the same single directory over network
09:48	<alkisg> Then you're essentially using thin clients, not fat, for that program
09:48	I.e. you can use sudo -u and the rest
09:48	<Gasp0de> thats the reason i wanted to use a terminalserver, so all the writing to the directory would be on one local machine
09:50	Ok thanks so far i will try that way and then come back here if i have more questions or to leave my success story =)
09:50	<alkisg> You're welcome
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11:30	<Gasp0de> Hi everyone
11:30	i have a question concerning lts.conf
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11:30	<Gasp0de> i have an lstp-server running on xubuntu
11:31	i am using fat clients as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
11:32	but when i generate an lts.conf file in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf, it will not get to the clients
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11:34	<Gasp0de> i shut down the services dnsmasq and nbd-server, then ran 'sudo /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels' and 'sudo ltsp-update-image --cleanup /', then booted the client
11:34	getltscfg -a tells me that there is no such file as /etc/lts.conf
11:34	did i do something wrong?
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11:35	<Gasp0de> i did restart the services before booting the client ofc
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11:39	<alkisg> Gasp0de: did you sent a mail to edubuntu-users ml?
11:40	<Gasp0de> No. Shall I?
11:40	<alkisg> No, I just replied there 2 minutes ago in a similar issue
11:41	Try this: sudo ln -s amd64 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
11:41	Then reboot the clients
11:41	<Gasp0de> ok. should i do this while in /var/lib/tftpboot?
11:41	<alkisg> Wherever
11:42	<Gasp0de> ok
11:43	is rebooting enough or do i have to run some update script or restart nbd-server?
11:43	<alkisg> just reboot clients
11:43	<Gasp0de> ok
11:45	ok the file seems to exist now, but i get a permission error when running getltscfg
11:45	<alkisg> it's normal
11:45	put screen_02=shell in lts.conf to get a root shell
11:45	!screen_02
11:45	<ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
11:46	<Gasp0de> alright, thank you
11:46	i can run remote apps now =)
11:47	<alkisg> Gasp0de: your clients are amd64, right?
11:48	I wonder why that bug exists
11:48	If you can, paste the contents of the files in /var/run/ltsp/* from your fat client
11:48	!pastebin
11:48	<ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
11:54	<Gasp0de> sry i was gone for a second
11:54	yes my client is amd64
11:54	i will paste the contents, give me a minute
11:56	the directory doesn't exist
12:08	<alkisg> Gasp0de: sorry, /var/cache/ltsp
12:12	<Gasp0de> I will have a look
12:12	in the meantime, i've already got another question
12:12	i managed to start apps remotely now
12:13	but sudo wont work yet, and i don't know why
12:13	ltsp-remoteapps mousepad will start mousepad as a remoteapp correctly
12:13	while ltsp-remoteapps mousepad wont
12:16	sry
12:17	ltsp-remoteapps 'sudo mousepad' is the one that doesnt work
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12:25	<Gasp0de> The content of the files can be found in http://pastebin.com/sw44Rp33
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13:18	<vsuojanen> alkisg: I couldn't get the xfreerdp -f -u '' graphical login prompt with Windows 7 + NLA.
13:19	if I understand it's said also in FreeRDP manual.
13:19	https://github.com/awakecoding/FreeRDP-Manuals/blob/master/User/FreeRDP-User-Manual.markdown
13:20	anyways I have a workaround for it when I use xterm and option --from-stdin
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13:25	<vsuojanen> nothing loads from remote server if i have SCREEN_07 = "xfreerdp -f -u '' server"
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14:51	<alkisg> Gasp0de: you need a terminal to enter the sudo password, make a script or use gksudo or pkexec etc
14:53	ROOTPATH='/opt/ltsp/amd64' and filename=''... hmm....
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15:03	<alkisg> vsuojanen: I don't remember how I tested, but what I was seeing in windows 2008 server, was the login screen mentioned in " Old Authentication" paragraph from the page you've linked
15:03	So I'm guessing you're correct and I never tried NLA
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17:09	<Judsonab> Good evening every body
17:10	How do I a HPC between applications servers?
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