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Channel log from 12 January 2009 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <kc8pxy> I'm at the FG in Columbus Ohio
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| 00:01 | and i regularly annoy ryan with all the new features i want us to have in fgdb :)
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| 00:02 | new kernel ready to go, let's hope this works nice.
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| 00:02 | <Ryan52> pfft. you only did that once, and it was something sort of related to a feature that we sort of wanted...:)
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| 00:07 | <kc8pxy> brb.. trying to new kernel (panic?). bbiab
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| 00:08 | <johnny> you're in columbus?
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| 00:08 | i was born there
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| 00:09 | haven't been there in ages tho
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| 00:09 | <kc8pxy> i grew up here.
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| 00:09 | let me know when you get a chance to come back.
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| 00:22 | back
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| 00:22 | went smooth, forgot the tun module
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| 00:22 | i love building my own kernel from scratch :) it means i have the sources on had to compile modules i forgot :)
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| 00:32 | bye for a sec.
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| 00:36 | back
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| 00:36 | moment of truth.
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| 03:57 | <Appiah> Hello , Sometimes users have to wait 3-7mins to login. They enter user and pass , screen goes black and cursor shows.
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| 03:57 | Any idea on what can be the cause? How we can improve the login time?
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| 03:57 | I dont think it's bw problem , there's 1gbit between the server and client switch
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| 05:16 | <cyberorg> Appiah, try ssh -X to the server from normal PC to find out if it is ltsp client issue or something else
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| 05:33 | <eghie> hello
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| 05:34 | <Eghie> where can I find the protocol definition, which is used by, student-control-panel, scp-remote, and stuff?
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| 05:34 | because I want to write an application which does session management on LTSP servers
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| 06:04 | <Appiah> cyberorg yes but then check what?
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| 06:06 | <cyberorg> Appiah, if that takes as long?
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| 06:06 | <Appiah> oh
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| 06:07 | thats one thing
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| 06:07 | Eghie: by protocol definition , do you mean it uses these ports and these TCP protocols?
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| 06:08 | Session Management would be a nice
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| 06:08 | <ogra> Eghie, have a look at python-tcm iirc it uses that module to make scp-remote and scp-client talk
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| 06:09 | <Eghie> well, the hardcore RAW protocol I don't need, but the protocol it is using, which programs on the remote client it starts and ports and stuff like that
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| 06:10 | I shall take a look at that
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| 06:18 | <Appiah> Eghie: if you start writing such a application I'll be glad to test it!
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| 06:19 | <Eghie> it's a JAVA daemon
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| 06:19 | <Appiah> oooh
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| 06:19 | <Eghie> so no user interface
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| 06:20 | it's to control internet cafe's who are using LTSP
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| 06:20 | so to sell time and stuff
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| 06:21 | it already works for Nomachine NX, now to make an extension using LTSP
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| 06:24 | <Appiah> nice
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| 07:34 | <Eghie> ok, so scp-remote and scp-client is using DBUS as communication layer
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| 08:39 | <Gadi> stgraber: ping
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| 08:40 | stgraber: FYI: I just filed this bug with gnome's bugzilla: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567499
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| 08:41 | Hopefully, it will fix the bug preventing us from doing the localapps menu more properly
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| 08:42 | <ogra> hmm ?
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| 08:42 | works here
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| 08:43 | <Gadi> ogra: interpid?
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| 08:43 | *intrepid?
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| 08:44 | <ogra> all gnomes since hoary
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> heh, well I know that's not true
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| 08:45 | hence the bug reports
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| 08:45 | :)
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| 08:45 | <ogra> well, i tried it recently with stgraber and back then it worked
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> not *adding* a menu, but overriding the existing menu
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| 08:46 | it for sure fails on hardy and intrepid
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| 08:48 | <Q-FUNK> hm
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| 08:49 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:49 | <Q-FUNK> !s
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| 08:49 | <ltspbot`> Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:50 | <Appiah> Gooday
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| 08:50 | <alkisg> Good evening! :)
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| 08:51 | <jammcq> Good morning #ltsp
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| 08:54 | <Q-FUNK> !j
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| 08:54 | <ltspbot`> Q-FUNK: "j" is jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> Gadi: I just tried copying tsclient.desktop and modifying TryExec and Exec to gedit and it worked fine. Maybe you didn't modify TryExec?
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| 08:57 | (intrepid)
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| 08:59 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 08:59 | worked for me, too now
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| 08:59 | weird
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| 09:00 | I *know* it didnt work before - otherwise, we would have implemented the LOCAL_APPS_MENU code the proper way to begin with
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| 09:00 | :P
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| 09:00 | <Q-FUNK> heh
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> Maybe some update fixed it... :)
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| 09:05 | <alkisg> About once per day, a couple of my TCs hang completely (no caps lock, reisub, nothing). Can bad cabling cause this? I have gigabit network with old, cat 5 utp cables...
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| 09:06 | <Gadi> ok, changed the bug report to fixed :P
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| 09:06 | <Appiah> Anyone tried LTSP-Cluster on 8.10 ?
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| 09:06 | is it safe/stable ?
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| 09:28 | <pscheie> sbalneav, I owe you a thanks and a beer
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| 09:28 | <sbalneav> Not sure what I did, but thanks! <drinks beer>
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| 09:29 | It's 12 noon *somewhere*!!!
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| 09:29 | <pscheie> When you were here in Mpls. in '06, you mentioned you had a bunch of LCD monitors that were blowing their capacitors
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| 09:29 | <Q-FUNK> 17:30 here. happy hour has started. that works :)
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| 09:29 | <pscheie> and how just replacing those fixed them
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> Perfect. I'm a man of the world.
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| 09:30 | Ahh, caps.
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| 09:30 | <jammcq> any day Scotty can get his soldering iron plugged in is a good day :)
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| 09:30 | <pscheie> my dad's 6 year old LCD went out over the weekend; I took it apart, and sure enough, it had two bulging caps
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| 09:30 | <pscheie> replaced 'em for about $4, and it's as good as new
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> It's a good day when I can break out the soldering iron, and save Legal Aid $200 bucks with a .30 cent cap.
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| 09:30 | Perfect.
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| 09:31 | And your dad figgurs you're a hero now.
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| 09:31 | <pscheie> yep!
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| 09:31 | <sbalneav> Bonus.
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| 09:31 | jammcq: Morning!
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| 09:31 | <pscheie> He'd already bought a new one, I took the old one, figured I had nothing to lose by tearing it apart
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| 09:31 | <sbalneav> Cold enough for you?
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| 09:32 | pscheie: You back to the deep freeze down there?
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| 09:32 | <jammcq> sbalneav: hey hey
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| 09:32 | <pscheie> sbalneav, not too bad, probalby abou 15 degress F, but it's snowing to beat the band ATM
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| 09:32 | good thing I rode the bus to work today
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| 09:34 | * pscheie should really learn to 'know' temps in Celsius | |
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| 09:35 | <sbalneav> it's -23 here, C
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| 09:36 | <jammcq> http://www.xkcd.com/526/
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| 09:40 | <Appiah> :D
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| 09:40 | See it's easy!
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| 09:44 | <jammcq> I love what that chart says about -20C and -30C
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| 09:47 | <cliebow> sbalneva 20 46-4.6 is 41.4 degrees below freezing...fahrenheit
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| 09:47 | <jammcq> huh?
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| 09:48 | -40C = -40F
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| 09:49 | <cliebow> -40c is 80 -8=72 degrees fahrenheit below freezing
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| 09:50 | so -40f
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| 09:50 | <jammcq> ah, you are saying "below freezing". I'm thining "below zero"
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| 09:50 | s/thining/thinking/
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| 09:50 | <Appiah> :D
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| 09:50 | confusing
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| 09:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: ping
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| 09:53 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "Does this look about right? Gadi seeks second set of eyes" (74 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/171
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| 09:54 | <Gadi> damn - mtg time...
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| 09:54 | <kc8pxy> johnny: without the right modules, it will fail just after tftp success?
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| 09:56 | tftp file-not-found
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| 10:37 | <ogra> jammcq, i'm still getting 450 errors from ltsp.org (daily)
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| 10:38 | server misconfiguration ...
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| 10:47 | <Daemonik> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 to host Ubuntu LTSP. I use Dvorak, my users don't. When I specify XKBLAYOUT = us in lts.conf the layout on the netbooted system is still Dvorak (for rdesktop). I'm going to attempt to change the layout by chrooting to the client image. Where does Ubuntu keep the default keyboard layout setting?
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> Daemonik: I think you should also specify CONFIGURE_X=True in lts.conf.
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| 10:52 | To modify the layout in the chroot, give dpkg-reconfigure console-setup in the chroot.
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| 10:55 | <Daemonik> alkisg, Thank you. I'll try that.
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| 10:55 | I see no mention of configure_x here http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html Is this documentation out of date?
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> Yes... :(
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| 10:55 | !lts.conf
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| 10:55 | <ltspbot`> alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> Is the current documentation, but I don't know if CONFIGURE_X is there
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| 10:56 | CONFIGURE_X only applied for some LTSP versions (including the one in 8.10).
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| 10:56 | For older or newer versions it's not needed
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| 10:58 | <Daemonik> No, configure_x is not there
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| 10:58 | hm
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| 10:58 | There's a newer version than 8.10?
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> Not newer Ubuntu version, but newer ltsp version, sure! :)
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| 11:14 | <alkisg> About once per day, a couple of my TCs hang completely (no caps lock, reisub, nothing). Can bad cabling cause this? I have gigabit network with old, cat 5 utp cables...
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| 11:33 | <sbalneav> alkisg: seems more like ram issues.
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> sbalneav: I ran memtest for hours without problems... :(
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| 11:36 | <sbalneav> No idea then.
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> Hmmm..... I guess I'll have to try with different cables, to see if it solves the problem. Thanks!
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| 11:36 | <sbalneav> Wires are cheap: if you think it might be networking, just replace ;'em
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| 11:37 | also, see if there's any BIOS updates for the mobos
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| 11:37 | <sbalneav> I've seen ACPI issues, or bios issues hang mobos solid.
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> It's the whole wiring; the guy that put them into the rack didn't do a good job, neither in the plugs, and the wires are cat5...
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| 11:38 | They're rather old, so I guess there are ACPI problems; e.g. they don't shutoff (I guess it can be solved with some kernel parameters, but I didn't have time to look into it)
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| 11:55 | <moldy> hi
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| 12:03 | <moldy> my thin clients do not shutdown when i press the power-off button. shutting down from ldm seems to cause them to hand. any hints on where to start debugging? acpi?
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| 13:03 | <Blinny> Running Hardy Heron - I'd like to set up a guest account for students, but not have that account be accessible from the outside world via SSH. How do you disable this one account's external ssh access without affecting LTSP ?
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| 13:04 | <Lns> Blinny: you need SSH access from outside for other accounts?
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| 13:04 | <johnny> ssh has AllowGroups and AllowUsers options
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| 13:04 | <Lns> johnny: oooo
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| 13:04 | <johnny> oh..
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| 13:05 | but you need that for ltsp itself
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| 13:05 | hmm..
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| 13:05 | <Blinny> Lns: Yes.
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| 13:05 | johnny: Bingo
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| 13:05 | <johnny> firewall port 22 except from group
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| 13:05 | on the external interface
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| 13:05 | oh.. wait.. incoming..
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| 13:05 | :(
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| 13:05 | use ssh keys?
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| 13:06 | <Blinny> I recall a discussing about this on ltsp-discuss but I can't find it in the archives.
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| 13:06 | <johnny> that's what i do.. no login from any accounts possible
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| 13:06 | except with the ssh key
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| 13:06 | that is autogenerated
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| 13:07 | <Blinny> Yuck
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| 13:08 | <johnny> hmm?
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| 13:08 | how is that yuck :)
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| 13:08 | then again
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| 13:08 | my use case is anonymous logins
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| 13:08 | i actually tried the default user/pass == host.. but got remote logged within a few days
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| 13:09 | with an irc bouncer running
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| 13:09 | so i just setup the ssh keys for login.. made things easier.. and secure
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| 13:14 | <Blinny> Here it is: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg35264.html
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> Blinny: I think you may use iptables to cut all ssh traffic for the specific users with target ip <> local network
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| 13:24 | Don't ask me about the syntax, though! :)
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| 13:26 | <Blinny> iptables is packet-level not user level though
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| 13:27 | <johnny> you can check user on the way out.. just not the way in
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| 13:27 | iirc
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| 13:36 | <Blinny> Thanks guys. I'll sort something out. Cheers.
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| 14:31 | <Guevara> hello
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| 14:31 | =)
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| 14:32 | hello sbalneav and Gadi this is the result of the command id of two students enrolled in the terminal, how can I make pendrives plugged the server does not appear in the 18 terminal? http://pastebin.com/m72c2594e
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| 14:41 | <Guevara> hello this is the result of the command id of two students enrolled in the terminal, how can I make pendrives plugged the server does not appear in the 18 terminal? http://pastebin.com/m72c2594e
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| 14:47 | <kc8pxy> johnny/ryan: pxe seems to be trying, but fails at bad tftp: file not found. what should my dhcp be feeding it?
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| 14:48 | <johnny> well.. what is your tftp setup like
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| 14:48 | and what is your dhcp setup like
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| 14:49 | <Guevara> hello this is the result of the command id of two students enrolled in the terminal, how can I make pendrives plugged the server does not appear in the 18 terminal? http://pastebin.com/m72c2594e
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| 14:49 | nobody can answer me?
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| 14:52 | <kc8pxy> INTFTPD_PATH="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 14:52 | <evilx> !help
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| 14:52 | <ltspbot`> evilx: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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| 14:53 | <evilx> what the ltsp page with all ths stuff for lts.conf?
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| 14:53 | <Guevara> nobody can answer me?
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| 14:54 | <kc8pxy> Guevara: people who can help will answer. people who cannot will not.
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| 14:55 | Guevara: personally, I'm not sure i understand what you said of the situation.
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| 14:57 | <kc8pxy> johnny: INTFTPD_PATH="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 14:57 | <Guevara> kc8pxy: 82 people gathered in the channel to do nothing? That is to serve this channel? I bet that with this my message will now appear a bunch responding
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| 14:57 | <johnny> kc8pxy, ok that's good
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| 14:57 | dhcp?
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| 14:58 | <Guevara> I am moderator on another channel, and with far fewer people help many more people
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| 14:58 | <laga> Guevara: it's 10pm here, i've had a long day, i'm just idling in here.
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| 14:59 | <kc8pxy> Guevara: I'm only a ltsp novice. sorry, but unless it's a simple and basic config, i can't help.
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| 14:59 | <Guevara> http://ltsp.sourceforge.net/irc.php this link says that this is the channel of support, but seems not, gather here just for nothing
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| 15:00 | 18:33 went to the channel, are 19:01, see the time that I am here waiting
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| 15:00 | <kc8pxy> johnny: not sure what that should look like. the only example files in the pltsp-server package is for dnsmasq.
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| 15:00 | <johnny> it should have installed the other one.. oops
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| 15:00 | well.. look it up for ubuntu
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| 15:01 | same diff except for s/i386/x86/
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| 15:01 | <laga> Guevara: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - might be a good read :)
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| 15:01 | <johnny> i'm about to head to work
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| 15:02 | <kc8pxy> johnny: ryan gave me some stuff, but it doesn't seem to work, or i copy/pasted it wrong.
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| 15:02 | <Guevara> forget, no one here helps nothing
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| 15:02 | <Lns> Guevara: lol
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| 15:03 | <kc8pxy> Guevara: this is not a paid support channel. people are here at their leisure to help others.
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| 15:03 | <Lns> Guevara: you need to be a bit more open minded about people helping you out. Not everyone sits and waits for someone to ask a question here, we have jobs and things to do as well. You need to be patient.
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| 15:03 | <kc8pxy> Guevara: unless you are lucky, a half-hour is a very short time to expect a response/
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| 15:04 | Guevara: as an example, I've been woorking on and off with getting my setup tewaked, with johnny, for several days straight.
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| 15:04 | tweaked.
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| 15:05 | <Guevara> I help people in debian and ubuntu, I do to help, but nobody here is willing to help, or teach me what?
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| 15:05 | <Lns> Guevara: take a breath, please..
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| 15:05 | <kc8pxy> Guevara: it would be good to start with a clear illustration of what it the situation, what is desired, and what is happening.
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| 15:06 | <Guevara> there are 82 people here at channel where we are 6 am moderator
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| 15:06 | <Lns> kick, anyone?
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| 15:07 | <johnny> Guevara, your problem seems to be that your users are not in their own group
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| 15:07 | * kc8pxy seconds that | |
| 15:07 | <Guevara> I have explained, if you do not know just say that you do not know, the problem here is that there are people who know but do not want to respond, because they are very goodportuguês > inglês alterarTraduzir
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| 15:07 | <laga> your problem seems to be that you are impatient. also, you get what you paid for ;)
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| 15:07 | <johnny> or they are busy with their real lives
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| 15:07 | outside of htis channel
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| 15:07 | or busy working on other things
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| 15:08 | <Guevara> this channel serves no purpose
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| 15:08 | <johnny> if your users were in their own groups, then this issue would be solved for you Guevara
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| 15:08 | <kc8pxy> anyone have a dhcp config from ubuntu for a working ltsp, that i can have?
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| 15:08 | <johnny> kc8pxy, internets has it
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| 15:08 | it's also in the repository
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| 15:08 | in the bzr branch
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| 15:08 | look in /usr/portage/distfiles/bzr-src/ltsp-trunk
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| 15:08 | <Lns> can't win em all, i guess
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| 15:09 | <johnny> ok.. time for me to get ready for work
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| 15:10 | <Lns> bye johnny
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| 15:10 | thanks for nothing, as Guevara would say ;)
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| 15:10 | <johnny> lol
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| 15:10 | <Lns> =p
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| 15:10 | <johnny> i was thankin your mom last night
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| 15:10 | OOHHH
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| 15:11 | <Lns> oh nooes
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| 15:11 | <johnny> yes.. i went there.. BURN
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| 15:11 | <Lns> hahhaa...oh i love this chan
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| 15:11 | <johnny> luckily.. i only have to walk like 6 blocks
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| 15:11 | <kc8pxy> johnny: i have no trunk
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| 15:12 | <johnny> kc8pxy, i'm not sure what it is called in there
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| 15:12 | my gentoo box is dead atm
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| 15:12 | look in that bzr-src
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| 15:12 | but also.. you can browse for the example in launchpad
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| 15:13 | <kc8pxy> cd: /usr/portage/distfiles/bzr-src/ltsp-trunk: No such file or directory
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| 15:13 | <johnny> Lns, and look what we have here.. first momma joke
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| 15:13 | and then gadi shows up
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| 15:13 | <kc8pxy> thx
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| 15:13 | <johnny> tells ya something huh
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| 15:13 | <Lns> hahaha.. Gadi's streaming this chan on his cellphone me bets, for situations like this
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| 15:14 | <Gadi> yo mama's thin client's so fat...
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| 15:15 | <Lns> I havent tested this exact procedure yet but this could be *the* fix for Firefox 3 in Ubuntu LTSP - anyone care to comment? I'll be testing it out at one school today hopefully - http://lns.wikidot.com/nsprupdate
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| 15:16 | Gadi: lol, yo mama's thin client is so fat, she needs 500W just to POST! OH!....*ahem* Yes, I'll be here all week.
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| 15:17 | <johnny> thanks Lns you rock
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| 15:17 | not that i have that problem
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| 15:17 | never seen it occur with just 4 clients..
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| 15:17 | <johnny> you don't get that same "starting everything at the same time" effect
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| 15:18 | <Lns> johnny: yeah
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| 15:18 | <johnny> ok.. i'm off to feed
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| 15:19 | and work
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| 15:19 | at my place with ltsp :)
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| 15:26 | <kc8pxy> Lns: LOL
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| 15:26 | * kc8pxy decides to consider switching to dnsmasq at home. | |
| 15:28 | <johnny> ok.. i have to run to work
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| 15:30 | <kc8pxy> cya.. thanks for all your help
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| 15:33 | dnsmasq has a tftp option, should i, or should i not, use it?
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| 15:41 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: dnsmasq is really the one-stop shop for LTSP.
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| 15:41 | kc8pxy: use all the features available ...
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| 15:42 | kc8pxy: there are some minor bugs with the tftp server and the hackish was the initramfs figures out how to download lts.conf ... if you need that feature, you might have to tweak things a little
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| 15:42 | <moldy> oh, that sounds interesting
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| 15:42 | could that explain why my lts.conf from tftpboot is apparently never used?
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| 15:42 | <vagrantc> if you're using dnsmasq, yes.
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| 15:43 | <moldy> i do. interesting.
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| 15:43 | <vagrantc> not sure if it's fixed in newer versions of dnsmasq or not.
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| 15:43 | <moldy> but it's a bug in the tftp server, not in dnsmasq?
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| 15:44 | <vagrantc> moldy: it's a bug in the tftp server that is part of dnsmasq.
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| 15:44 | moldy: so if you're using dnsmasq just for dhcp, then it isn't your problem.
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| 15:44 | moldy: if you're using dnsmasq *as* a tftp server, then it might be your problem,.
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| 15:46 | moldy: do you have tftp options in your /etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
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| 15:46 | <moldy> hm
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| 15:47 | i am using a dedicated tftp server i think
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| 15:47 | <vagrantc> probably tftpd-hpa
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| 15:48 | <moldy> yep
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| 15:48 | btw, which port should it run on?
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| 15:48 | <vagrantc> 69
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| 15:49 | which should be the default...
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| 15:49 | <moldy> funny, the port is closed on my server
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| 15:49 | ahh, it's run from inetd?
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| 15:49 | it's been some time since i did that install :)
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| 15:49 | <vagrantc> yes. though inetd should be holding the port open
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| 15:50 | <moldy> port is closed here, but my clients boot
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| 15:50 | <vagrantc> sure it's booting off of that server?
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| 15:50 | <moldy> yes, i only have that one :)
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| 15:54 | <kc8pxy> vagrantc: I'm having trouble with my current dhcp seeming to point my pxe at a file on the tftp that's not there.
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| 15:55 | * vagrantc reads kc8pxy's config files using clairvoyance | |
| 15:55 | <vagrantc> ah!
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| 15:55 | * kc8pxy is preparing it via slexy. | |
| 15:55 | <vagrantc> !pastebot
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| 15:55 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 15:59 | <ltsppbot> "kc8pxy" pasted "dhcp config" (19 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/172
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| 16:00 | <kc8pxy> that's the subnet that my pxe is getting
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| 16:02 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: so, is your tftp server configured to use relative paths? i.e. /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp appears as /ltsp on to the tftp client?
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| 16:02 | kc8pxy: and where are your tftp files kept?
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| 16:03 | <kc8pxy> vagrantc: relative paths? i've never had a use for tftp before, scp rocks :)
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: what tftp server are you using?
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| 16:06 | <kc8pxy> INTFTPD_PATH="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 16:06 | tftp-hpa
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| 16:06 | <vagrantc> ok, so does /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/x86/pxelinux.0 exist?
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| 16:08 | <kc8pxy> yes
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| 16:09 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: so what's telling you "
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| 16:09 | 13:55 < kc8pxy> vagrantc: I'm having trouble with my current dhcp seeming to point my pxe at a file on the tftp that's not there." ?
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| 16:12 | <kc8pxy> vagrantc: bot my vbox ltsp client trying to pxe, as well as my hardware box that i forced to pxe (3com tornado).
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| 16:13 | s/bot/both/
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: what's the error message? is it from the pxe implementation? is it later in the process... ?
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| 16:14 | <kc8pxy> vagrantc: vbox says.
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| 16:15 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: and what does it say exactly?
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| 16:15 | <kc8pxy> PXE-T01: File not found
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| 16:16 | PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File not found
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| 16:16 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: what type of network is your vbox client configured to use?
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| 16:17 | <kc8pxy> .....???
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| 16:17 | vagrantc: this is my first ltsp server install.. trying to get the shop running ltsp
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| 16:17 | but this is my dev box.
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| 16:18 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: in virtualbox, you can use NAT, Host Interface, or Internal Network configured for each network card, which is your vbox configured to use?
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| 16:19 | <kc8pxy> host interface
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| 16:20 | <vagrantc> and how is that configured?
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| 16:20 | <kc8pxy> vagrantc: i pugraded to 2.1.0 so i can NOT have to use tapX, it's using eth0
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| 16:21 | <vagrantc> ah, no idea then.
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| 16:21 | * vagrantc is using 1.6.6 | |
| 16:21 | * kc8pxy was using 1.6.6 also. | |
| 16:22 | <kc8pxy> vagrantc: it's not only a vbox thing
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| 16:24 | <vagrantc> kc8pxy: yes, well, i can't really suss out your configuration sufficiently to troubleshoot ... you're using a distro i'm unfamiliar with, versions of software that are significantly different than what i'm familiar with, etc.
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| 16:24 | kc8pxy: for me it "just works".
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| 16:35 | Gadi: i'm wondering if we shouldn't use 'mount -s' and just append utf8 by default ...
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| 16:35 | Gadi: for ltspfs
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> Gadi: cdpinger uses "auto" by default for the filesystem type ...
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| 17:00 | <Gadi> vagrantc: hey, sorry
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| 17:00 | been afk
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| 17:01 | hmm...
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| 17:01 | I think I read cdpinger too quickly and saw that it called ltspfs_entry and was happy
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| 17:01 | :)
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> it hard-codes "auto" as the filesystem
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| 17:02 | <Gadi> the lil bastarad
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| 17:02 | <rjune_> bastarad?
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| 17:02 | <Gadi> its cliebow for "bastard"
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| 17:03 | :)
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| 17:03 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "ltsp-genmenu replacement" (86 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/173
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| 17:03 | <Gadi> vagrantc: while I have you...
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| 17:04 | can I get a spot check on that?
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| 17:04 | its a replacement for the ltsp-genmenu code that overrides the menu items with local apps stuff
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| 17:05 | <vagrantc> well, i haven't touched ltsp-genmenu at all, but i can look for obvious weirdness...
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| 17:06 | <Gadi> thx - the weirdness is prolly the good stuff
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| 17:06 | :)
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| 17:08 | <vagrantc> Gadi: instead of all the ${a##*/} calls ... i'd just set a variable with that at the top of the loop.
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> Gadi: any maybe consider using basename ?
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| 17:09 | <Gadi> pheh - how ineeficient
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| 17:09 | calling an external binary
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| 17:09 | :P
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> for readabilities sake...
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| 17:09 | * Gadi needs the 5ns | |
| 17:10 | <Gadi> :)
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| 17:14 | <moldy> vagrantc: the mystery of my closed tftp port is solved: i was only scanning tcp
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i'd also try to come up with some other name for VARRUN ...
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| 17:14 | moldy: ah, yes. your test was broken. :)
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| 17:15 | Gadi: otherwise ... looks like our intended evil, i think.
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| 17:21 | <moldy> i cannot shutdown my ltsp clients by pressing the power button -- what am i missing?
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| 17:36 | <nubae> moldy: have u held it long enough
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| 17:36 | ususally u need to hold down up to a minute
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| 17:36 | <Gadi> moldy: if acpi does not work, try disabling it in the BIOS
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| 17:36 | along with APM
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| 17:37 | (if options exist for either)
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| 17:37 | <moldy> Gadi: will try that, thanks
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| 17:37 | <Gadi> usually under power management
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| 17:37 | <moldy> nubae: if i hold it too long, it will power off without shutting down properly
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| 17:37 | <Gadi> moldy: no need to shut down properly
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| 17:37 | :)
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| 17:37 | <moldy> Gadi: hmm, i am not really sure about that
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| 17:38 | <Lns> Gadi: but what if he was working on an OOo document?
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| 17:38 | or any other open data
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| 17:38 | <Gadi> you should always log out properly
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| 17:38 | :)
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| 17:38 | but no need to shut down properly
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| 17:38 | welcome to the cloud, ladies and gents
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| 17:38 | <moldy> ok, that might be right. i want the client to logout the user when the power button is pressed.
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| 17:39 | <Gadi> it aint yo mama's computer anymore
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| 17:39 | <Lns> oh jesus tapdancing christ, please dont say 'cloud' lol
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| 17:39 | <Gadi> lol
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| 17:39 | he only tapdances on thursdays
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| 17:39 | you can buy your tickets in advance, tho
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| 17:39 | <Lns> LOL.. gadi's had too much coffee today
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| 17:40 | <Gadi> moldy: nothing is implemented to log out the user from his server session on power button press
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| 17:40 | <moldy> Gadi: too bad. i guess i should implement something then.
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| 17:40 | <Gadi> there ya go
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| 17:40 | <nubae> so I tried my hand at a LSTP logo too :-)
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| 17:40 | <Lns> moldy: i second that
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| 17:40 | <Gadi> there's the entreprenuerial spirit!
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| 17:40 | <moldy> still, it would be very worthwhile not having to press the power button for forever and a day to shut the client down :)
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| 17:41 | <Lns> nubae: cool! anywhere for us to see?
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| 17:41 | <Gadi> moldy: are these old machines?
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| 17:41 | <moldy> Gadi: no, they are quite new
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| 17:41 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 17:41 | <moldy> Gadi: atom systems
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| 17:41 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 17:41 | eeepcs?
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| 17:41 | <moldy> no
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| 17:42 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 17:42 | <moldy> btw, i am having the same problem on two different clients
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| 17:42 | <Gadi> (I likesaying that)
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| 17:42 | <moldy> and i am pretty sure that it was working at some point
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| 17:42 | <Gadi> do any clients work as advertised?
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| 17:42 | <moldy> i have only tested the atom clients and a gigabyte client. both of them don't work.
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| 17:42 | <Gadi> if not, sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -l acpid
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| 17:45 | <moldy> Gadi: ii acpid
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| 17:46 | <Gadi> moldy: if you can get a shell on the client, scope out its /proc/acpi dir
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| 17:47 | <moldy> will try that, need some minutes to get a shell
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| 17:47 | <nubae> http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/contestlogos.html
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| 17:47 | <Lns> nubae: nice!
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| 17:48 | (I cant believe mine is up there)
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| 17:48 | sbalneav: ooo, yours is nice too =)
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| 17:49 | <vagrantc> linux terminal server program?
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| 17:49 | <Lns> haha, i was about to say...
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| 17:49 | its a nice logo besides that ;)
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| 17:49 | * vagrantc wonders if todd harris gets another try? | |
| 17:49 | <Lns> you can submit up to 3
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| 17:53 | Ok, i'm off to test out the nspr fix - wish me luck!
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| 17:53 | <moldy> Gadi: what am i looking for?
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| 17:54 | <Gadi> moldy: do you have a /proc/acpi/button/power dir?
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| 17:55 | <moldy> Gadi: yep. /proc/acpi/button/power/PWR{B,F}
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| 17:56 | <moldy> Gadi: http://rafb.net/p/jZl3Vv60.html should acpid appear here?
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| 17:58 | hah. /etc/init.d/acpid start and it works
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| 18:02 | <mistik1> so far my vote would go to sbalneav
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| 18:03 | on the logo contests that is
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| 18:04 | <Gadi> moldy: sorry - yeah, sounds like acpi is not running by default
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| 18:04 | <moldy> Gadi: how do i change that? update-rc.d tells me that links for acpid already exist, but i don't see them in the filesystem
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| 18:04 | <Gadi> you prolly didnt have /proc mounted in the chroot when it installed, so it didn't set up the rc.d files
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| 18:05 | did you do that in the chroot?
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| 18:05 | (update-rc.d)
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| 18:05 | <moldy> yep
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| 18:05 | <Gadi> you should be able to do a "remove" and then add them back
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| 18:05 | update-rc.d -f remove acpid
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| 18:06 | (or acpid remove - I never remember)
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| 18:06 | :)
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| 18:06 | dont forget to reroll the image
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| 18:11 | <moldy> that was it.
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| 18:11 | arguably, acpid should be started by default
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| 19:56 | <Ryan52> warren, so I'm trying to fix a bug in Fedora that's really pissing me off. based on that link you gave me a month or so ago, I figured out how to add the patch, how to build the rpm, and how to install it. but I'm not really sure how to get the existing spec file and all the other needed pieces...is there an automatic command to do this for me? or if I learn how to use CVS will checking out the repo be enough? or should I just manually download the requi
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| 19:57 | (vtw, this is unrelated to ltsp, but ya...:D)
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| 19:57 | *btw
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| 21:18 | <warren> Ryan52: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_Fedora_CVS
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| 21:19 | cvs co packagename
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| 21:19 | cd packagename/F-10
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| 21:19 | make test-srpm
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| 21:20 | <Ryan52> aha. thanks.
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| 21:30 | <Ryan52> yay! I managed to do it! :p
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| 23:11 | <Lns> Damn it, where's Gadi when you need a good yo mama joke
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| 23:17 | <Ryan52> heh
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