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00:08 | <joe_sizlack> ah, sorry, you still around vagrantc?
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00:09 | <vagrantc> little bit
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00:09 | <joe_sizlack> is mounted as an aufs overlay on /rofs/. When I update my chroot, /rofs/ gets the new changes but / still has the old stuff
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00:09 | say I add a printer in /etc/cups in my chroot for instance
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00:09 | <vagrantc> reboot
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00:10 | <joe_sizlack> ahh
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00:10 | no way around it?
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00:10 | <vagrantc> don't know of one, but that's not saying a lot
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00:10 | <joe_sizlack> haha, you were supposed to be the aufs goto man :)
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00:10 | <vagrantc> the changes should get reflected automatically, though
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00:11 | unless they are files that were changed in the tmpfs layer
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00:11 | this is with NFS or NBD?
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00:11 | <joe_sizlack> nfs
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00:11 | on fat clients
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00:12 | <vagrantc> nbd would require a reboot for sure ... nfs *might* be able to get away without it
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00:12 | <joe_sizlack> right
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00:12 | one of the reasons I liked nfs over nbd
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00:12 | <vagrantc> joe_sizlack: if some of the modified files are in the /cow, you could try deleting those files from the /cow ... but i'm not even sure that's accessible anymore
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00:13 | <joe_sizlack> what does /cow do?
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00:14 | where does it fall in the scheme of / and it's relationship to /rofs/ I mean
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00:14 | I can access it
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00:14 | <vagrantc> that's where the tmpfs is
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00:15 | the / dir is an aufs filesystem composed of /rofs and /cow
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00:15 | the writes go to cow
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00:15 | <joe_sizlack> ah
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00:15 | <vagrantc> (Copy-On-Write)
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00:15 | <joe_sizlack> got it
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00:15 | well I hope to sort out a way to do this
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00:15 | <vagrantc> i suspect cups files get written, as there's ltsp-specific code that updates the printer settings from lts.conf
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00:16 | <joe_sizlack> well any conf really
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00:16 | <vagrantc> you could run something like puppet on the fatclients to apply changes locally
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00:16 | but clients would accumulate a bunch of changes over time
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00:17 | <joe_sizlack> i'd like to be able to chroot the chroot on the server and make common day to day changes
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00:17 | without having my guys reboot 'n all
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00:18 | I just finished my HA ltsp setup
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00:18 | about to spin it up tonight
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00:18 | it's gonna be rad
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00:22 | <vagrantc> nice
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00:24 | NFS is a lot more forgiving about reconnects to the server
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07:34 | <Pinkeye> Hi
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07:35 | Anyone home?
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08:07 | <Pinkeye> hi
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14:23 | <pinkEYE> What up
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19:28 | <gbaman> Ok, here is one for you guys... wifi...
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19:28 | Raspberrry Pi LTSP via wifi..
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19:29 | seeing as the pi already has the kernel on the SD card
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19:30 | Is that even possible alkisg and vagrantc?
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19:45 | <gbaman> ?
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20:00 | alkisg?
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20:23 | <alkisg> !arcfour | echo Hyperbyte:
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20:23 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: arcfour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC4 is an SSH cipher which is more than 2 times faster than the default aes128-ctr. To enable it, set LDM_SSHOPTIONS="-o Ciphers=arcfour128".
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20:23 | <gbaman> ?
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20:24 | <alkisg> gbaman: no need to ask specific persons, just mention your questions in the channel, and anyone that has something to say about them will do so...
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20:24 | <gbaman> :)
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20:24 | <alkisg> Personally I never had a pi, I don't plan on getting one because it's too slow, and I never plan on using wifi for thin clients because it's terribly slow
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20:25 | So slow + slow ==> unusable...
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20:25 | <gbaman> yes yes, but is it possible?
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20:25 | <alkisg> Sure
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20:26 | <gbaman> ok...
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20:28 | is it easy?
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20:36 | <effenberg> Pi as client or server?
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20:36 | <ogra_> lol
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20:36 | that was a rhetorical question i hope :)
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20:36 | <effenberg> ;)
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20:40 | <gbaman> back
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20:40 | pi as a fat client
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20:54 | <Lumiere> pi doesn't really have enough power for a fat client
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20:54 | it really isn't a good option
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21:00 | <gbaman> it does, works perfectly fine
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21:02 | We basically want the functionality of LTSP, but also access to the local hardware on the pi
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21:03 | like GPIO pins
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21:03 | stuff like booting from a network image, so only 1 mast image
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21:03 | *master
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21:20 | We have it already booting fine and it runs at a similar speed to a normal pi, we are not loosing much speed if any
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