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Channel log from 27 June 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<fossala>
What would be different in setting up a server with 1 ethenet port rather than 2?
00:58
<alkisg>
dhcpd.conf
00:59
<fossala>
Is it hard to implement?
00:59
And would there be massive speed loss?
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00:59
<alkisg>
Nope, it's rather easy.
01:00
The speed loss would be about equal to your internet traffic, if you have a classic setup
01:00
E.g. 2 mbps from 1000 mbps lan speed
01:00
So you're left with 998 mbps. Very small speed loss.
01:00
<fossala>
yeah.
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04:13
<andygraybeal>
morrning
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04:35
<Hyperbyte>
Hey Andy. :)
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<andygraybeal>
morning Hyperbyte
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<TheMatrix3000>
how do i disable network excryption again
06:08
X_something
06:08
DirectX?
06:08
what was it
06:08
and in what file specifically
06:09
<roasted>
lost connectio
06:09
n
06:10
anybody running ltsp on 11.04??
06:10
<alkisg>
TheMatrix3000: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf => LDM_DIRECTX
06:12
mgariepy: hi - I'm writing an xfreerdp screen script and I'd like to hear if pasuspender and padsp are still needed, now that pulseaudio can seamlessly coexist with alsa... isn't just this script enough? http://paste.ubuntu.com/633167/
06:28
<mgariepy>
alkisg, i haven't had a chance to play with freerdp much, i have a few project on hold for now.
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06:29
<alkisg>
mgariepy: I'm mostly asking about the rdesktop screen script... in which use cases are pasuspender and padsp needed?
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<alkisg>
I think that padsp was needed some years ago, when pulseaudio had problems with localapps accessing alsa directly - now it does'nt,
06:31
and pasuspender... if one wants pulse off, why not just set sound=off in lts.conf?
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06:39
<TheMatrix3000>
wooooww
06:39
NFS really hurt the network
06:39
alkisg, you were right nfs kills network usage
06:40
<alkisg>
bbiab
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06:43
<mgariepy>
alkisg, with sound=off i thin pasuspender shouldn't be needed. i need to stop pulseaudio to have better performance on single core thin client.
06:44
with rdesktop.
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07:08
<mgariepy>
alkisg, with sound=off i thin pasuspender shouldn't be needed. i need to stop pulseaudio to have better performance on single core thin client.
07:08
<alkisg>
mgariepy: right, so I'm thinking that we could simplify a lot the existing rdesktop script, and even make it support xfreerdp - and delete rdesktop.sh
07:11* alkisg modifies http://paste.ubuntu.com/633167/ to also work for rdesktop (with a symlink from screen.d/rdesktop to screen.d/xfreerdp...)
07:16
<alkisg>
mgariepy: this one should cover all existing use cases, and support xfreerdp too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633656/
07:16
If you don't have any objections, I'll also ask Gadi and then commit it...
07:17
<mgariepy>
i don't have objection, if i encounter problems i'll just ask you and submit a patch :)
07:18
<alkisg>
Thanks :)
07:18
<mgariepy>
you are welcome :D
07:19
<alkisg>
Btw I removed support for $RDP_OPTIONS :) SCREEN_07="rdesktop params" sounds a lot simpler, and we won't have to support XFREERDP_OPTIONS either...
07:20
<Hyperbyte>
Plus, it allows for per-screen options. ;-)
07:32
<mgariepy>
alkisg, hmm i kinda like rdp option
07:33
<alkisg>
mgariepy: I wrote some more commens about it in the script - read those and if you still want $RDP_OPTIONS, I'll put them back :
07:33
:)
07:33
http://paste.ubuntu.com/633667/
07:34
The only change would be in the last line:
07:34
exec xinit $xinitrc "$basename" $RDP_OPTIONS "$@" -- "$DISPLAY" "vt${TTY}" $X_ARGS
07:38
<mgariepy>
yeah, with ltsp-cluster, i load the DB with some list for the screen script, and i might want to change option depending on the thin client.
07:39
i use a selection box for the selection
07:40
<alkisg>
Why not merge the two UI boxes into SCREEN_XX? But ok, /me puts $RDP_OPTIONS in the xinit line...
07:41
(I meant, to have one combo box for SCREEN=[rdesktop], and another for OPTIONS=[ ], and to merge them with your php script into one SCREEN_XX directive)
07:42
Has anyone used RDP_SOUND=padsp? On which case was that needed?
07:42
<mgariepy>
because i load lts.conf option into the DB and they get rendered differently depending on the type. i don't have exception for attributes
07:43
<alkisg>
OK np
07:43* alkisg meant RDP_SOUND=pulse-oss above...
07:50
<mgariepy>
alkisg, no idea, since using pulse with RDP is kinda only cpu waste.
07:51
<alkisg>
mgariepy: do you also need RDP_SERVER? Does this look ok?
07:51
exec xinit $xinitrc "$basename" $RDP_OPTIONS "$@" $RDP_SERVER -- "$DISPLAY" "vt${TTY}" $X_ARGS
07:51
I think that will work OK with both methods, either only SCREEN_XX, or with the $RDP_* variables as well
07:56
<mgariepy>
RDP_SERVER is also needed :D thanks
07:57
we might want to merge both server tho, freerdp and rdesktop
08:02
<alkisg>
mgariepy: what do you mean? The screen.d/scripts?
08:02
This should cover everything we said so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633677/
08:05
RDP_OPTIONS and RDP_SERVER are the same variables for both rdesktop and xfreerdp
08:09
<mgariepy>
no i only meant for freerdp and rdesktop
08:10
looks good to me
08:10
<alkisg>
I'm testing with screen.d/rdesktop as a symlink to screen.d/xfreerdp
08:12Nick change: Parker955_Away -> Parker955
08:13
<alkisg>
Hmm seems like ltsp/xinitrc breaks -u ''
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<alkisg>
...apart from ltsp/xinitrc, screen_session breaks empty parameters (e.g. -u '') and parameters with spaces too
08:17* alkisg tries to fix both of them...
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08:53
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I'm about to commit this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633700/
08:53
It removes rdesktop and rdesktop.sh, it creates xfreerdp, and a symlink to it named "rdesktop", and it fixes a small bug in xinitc
08:53
Does it look ok to you?
08:55
<vagrantc>
i'm nervous about the eval $COMMAND changes
08:56
<alkisg>
eval breaks spaces
08:56
<vagrantc>
it seems like those always switch back and forth
08:56
<alkisg>
So -u '' becomes just -u
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<alkisg>
Also "param with spaces" becomes 3 params
08:57
<vagrantc>
and i don't use RDP, so i don't know what all the use-cases are for testing
08:57
but overall it looks good
08:57
<alkisg>
I talked with mgariepy about the use cases, it looks good to him - I haven't seen Gadi though
08:59
Thanks - I'll wait for a couple of days in case Gadi shows up, and commit it then
09:01
<vagrantc>
alkisg: just go ahead and commit and mention it on ltsp-developer@ and we can always revert it or tweak it if need be
09:01
<alkisg>
OK :)
09:01
<vagrantc>
it's easier for others to review when it's in VCS
09:03
alkisg: although i'd separate out the xinitrc commits, unless they're truely interdependent
09:04
<alkisg>
vagrantc: OK I'll commit the xinitrc change first, because the xfreerdp script relies on xinitrc not "eating" -u ''
09:04
<vagrantc>
sure
09:08
<alkisg>
Pushed
09:10
<vagrantc>
then we'll have to change the dependencies to rdesktop | freerdp-x11
09:10
or prefer freerdp-x11
09:10
alkisg: the other idea would be to check for the presence of either and fall back if not found
09:11
and name it more generic, like rdp
09:11
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I thought about it, but it seamed cleaner to use different words in SCREEN_XX
09:11
<vagrantc>
that way the user wouldn't have to pay attention to which they wanted to use
09:11
<alkisg>
In extreme cases, one might want a screen with rdesktop, and another with xfreerdp, for compatibility reasons
09:12
The command line parameters are also a little different
09:12
<vagrantc>
fair enough
09:12
<alkisg>
E.g. -r sound:local vs -plugin rdpsnd
09:12
<vagrantc>
(you could still have a more generic script + ability to specify one or the other
09:12
)
09:13
<alkisg>
We can make $basename look for the other variants, if the one specified by scriptname isn't found
09:14
This way xfreerdp could be called just "rdp". But I think it's a little more complicated than needed :-/
09:14
<vagrantc>
right
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09:39
<Gnoze5>
alkisg by installing a localapp like firefox when i download a file by default it should use the users home on the server correct?
09:40
as in despite it being a local app i should see the user folders etc
09:47
<vagrantc>
yes
09:47
the homedir on the server is mounted using sshfs by default
09:47
mounted on the thin client, that is
09:48
<Gnoze5>
as i though
09:48
if i want to expose other shares
09:48
just use LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS
09:48
?
09:51
<alkisg>
Yup
09:51
Or you can use symlinks + SSH_FOLLOW_SYMLINKS=True
09:52
<Gnoze5>
perfect
09:52
thank you
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10:19
<TheMatrix3000>
would you recommend installing edubuntu then removing the school apps or installing ubuntu and then installing ltsp
10:26
<nivardus>
ubuntu alternative install disc includes ltsp server
10:27
press f4 before "install ubuntu" and select "LTSP Server" I know for sure it's on 10.4.1
10:28
<TheMatrix3000>
yea, thats what I did
10:28
im just having issues with that server
10:29
like it allows clients to boot but metacity is crashing
10:29
is there any suggestions on how to fix that
10:32
<alkisg>
I haven't heard about any problems related to metacity crashing, how did you find out that metacity is to blame?
10:32
I've heard about compiz crashing, about nomodeset needed and other X problems, but not metacity problems
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13:12
<alkisg>
Who has access to the sourceforge wiki? Only Scotty? It'd be nice if we got the ltsp logs to be automatically uploaded there...
13:12
*sourceforge pages, not wiki (php will be needed)
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<alkisg>
!learn ltsp-upstream as The LTSP source code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/
13:40
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
13:40
<Hyperbyte>
:)
13:41
!learn source The LTSP source code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/
13:41
<alkisg>
Not bad for starters... now if ole Scotty could give us the factoid database so that we don't type all those again... :-/
13:41
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
13:41
<Hyperbyte>
!learn source as The LTSP source code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/
13:41
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: The operation succeeded.
13:41
<Hyperbyte>
Ah
13:41
Cool. :)
13:41
And then
13:41
!source
13:41
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: My source is at http://supybot.com/
13:42
<Hyperbyte>
No
13:42
Or is that a default command? :)
13:42
!ltsp-upstream
13:42
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: "ltsp-upstream" could be The LTSP source code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/
13:42
<Hyperbyte>
? :)
13:42
<alkisg>
Haha needs some fine-tuning
13:42
<Hyperbyte>
Heheheh
13:42
<alkisg>
!forget source
13:42
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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13:42
<alkisg>
!forget source
13:42
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: There is no such factoid.
13:42
<alkisg>
!learn source as The LTSP source code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/
13:42
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
13:42
<alkisg>
!source
13:42
<ltsp>
alkisg: My source is at http://supybot.com/
13:42
<Hyperbyte>
But
13:43
<alkisg>
Yeah it looks reserved
13:43
<Hyperbyte>
!ltsp-upstream
13:43
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: "ltsp-upstream" could be The LTSP source code is at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/
13:43
<Hyperbyte>
It says "could be"
13:43
?
13:43
<alkisg>
That's why I said about finetuning
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13:43
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah. =D
13:43
<alkisg>
Maybe it's a pessimistic bot :P
13:43* Hyperbyte smacks ltsp
13:43
<Hyperbyte>
Hahah. It's still a bit insecure about itself. Trying to fill the big ol' ltspbot shoes.
13:43
<vagrantc>
ltsp: learn question as if you have a question about LTSP, go ahead and ask it. be sure to mention the linux distribution and version you're using. people will respond when they can... have patience
13:43
<ltsp>
vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
13:43
<vagrantc>
!question
13:43
<ltsp>
vagrantc: "question" could be if you have a question about LTSP, go ahead and ask it. be sure to mention the linux distribution and version you're using. people will respond when they can... have patience
13:44
<alkisg>
!question | alkisg
13:44
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "question" is not a valid command.
13:44
<vagrantc>
"could be" ?
13:44
<alkisg>
!question > alkisg
13:44
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "question" is not a valid command.
13:44
<Hyperbyte>
!explain question
13:44
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: Error: "explain" is not a valid command.
13:44
<Hyperbyte>
!help
13:44
<vagrantc>
alkisg: yeah, i would love to be able to direct it at someone
13:44
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
13:44
<alkisg>
Yeah it's too insecure... /me tries to give it some confidence...
13:44
<Hyperbyte>
!help learn
13:44
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
13:46
<Hyperbyte>
!tell
13:46
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
13:46
<Hyperbyte>
!tell Hyperbyte question
13:46
!tell Hyperbyte !question
13:46* Hyperbyte leaves ltsp alone now...
13:47
<alkisg>
"Ubottus encyclopedia plugin. http://ubottu.com/" will help with the redirection
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13:47
<alkisg>
But let's solve the self-esteem bit first
13:47
<Hyperbyte>
Heheh
13:49
<alkisg>
!question
13:49
<ltsp>
alkisg: "question" : if you have a question about LTSP, go ahead and ask it. be sure to mention the linux distribution and version you're using. people will respond when they can... have patience
13:53* Hyperbyte high-fives ltsp
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<dgroos>
alkisg: helping to socialize the bots? dgroos thinks alkisg is having summer student withdrawal...
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<alkisg>
!question | alkisg
14:03
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "question" is not a valid command.
14:03
<alkisg>
!question > alkisg
14:03
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "question" is not a valid command.
14:03
<Hyperbyte>
!help | Hyperbyte
14:03
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: Error: There is no command "| hyperbyte".
14:03
<alkisg>
!tell alkisg about !question
14:03
!tell alkisg about question
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<Hyperbyte>
!help > Hyperbyte
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<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: Error: There is no command "> hyperbyte".
14:04
<Hyperbyte>
Hehe
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14:32
<Hyperbyte>
!help
14:32
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
14:32
<Hyperbyte>
!tell Hyperbyte blah
14:34
!tell nickserv set password blah
14:34
!tell nickserv kill ltsp blah
14:34
Heh
14:35
It's not that dumb is it? :-D
14:35
Heh, doesn't seem like it.
14:36
Ah, it puts something in front of the message too. :-)
14:36
<alkisg>
!tell alkisg [whatis question]
14:36
!tell Hyperbyte [whatis question]
14:36
!tell vagrantc [whatis question]
14:37
Weird syntax, but anyway it's the default so it'll have to do
14:37
<Hyperbyte>
!whatis question
14:37
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: "question" : if you have a question about LTSP, go ahead and ask it. be sure to mention the linux distribution and version you're using. people will respond when they can... have patience
14:37
<Hyperbyte>
Maybe not so weird. I guess [ ] is just syntax for executing commands?
14:37
!tell Hyperbyte [help]
14:38
Yeah. :)
14:38
<alkisg>
Yup
14:42
!echo Hyperbyte: [whatis question]
14:42
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: "question" : if you have a question about LTSP, go ahead and ask it. be sure to mention the linux distribution and version you're using. people will respond when they can... have patience
14:42
<alkisg>
That's without PM'ing
14:43
<Hyperbyte>
!question
14:43
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: "question" : if you have a question about LTSP, go ahead and ask it. be sure to mention the linux distribution and version you're using. people will respond when they can... have patience
14:43
<Hyperbyte>
No > or | ? =)
14:43
<vagrantc>
progress!
14:43
<Hyperbyte>
Heheheh
14:43
<alkisg>
Nope, I think that the encyclopedia ubottu plugin supports redirection, but it's harder to set up
14:44
So I'm fine with the defaults that supybot has :D
14:44
<Hyperbyte>
Ah, well it's not that important.
14:44
<alkisg>
We just need to learn 2-3 weird syntaxes
14:44
<Hyperbyte>
So does it do anything besides !learn and !tell? :)
14:47
<alkisg>
It has history, logs... and lots of others that I didn't have time to read about yet :)
14:47
<vagrantc>
ltsp: forget stuff
14:47
<ltsp>
vagrantc: Error: There is no such factoid.
14:47
<vagrantc>
ltsp: learn foo as bar
14:47
<ltsp>
vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
14:47
<vagrantc>
forget foo
14:47
!forget foo
14:47
<ltsp>
vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
14:48
<alkisg>
!more Hyperbyte
14:48
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: Sorry, I can't find any mores for Hyperbyte
14:48
<vagrantc>
!seen alkisg
14:48
<ltsp>
vagrantc: alkisg was last seen in #ltsp 10 seconds ago: <alkisg> !more Hyperbyte
14:48
<alkisg>
vagrantc: ping
14:48
!more vagrantc
14:48
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: Sorry, I can't find any mores for vagrantc
14:48
<alkisg>
Hmm...
14:48
<Hyperbyte>
!last alkisg
14:48
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
14:48
<Hyperbyte>
ehm, what?
14:49
!last from alkisg
14:49
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
14:49
<Hyperbyte>
!last --from alkisg
14:49
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: [00:48:33] <alkisg> Hmm...
14:49
<Hyperbyte>
Ah
14:49
<alkisg>
Meh, anyway, enough playing, time to get some sleep. I'll put it online tomorrow, thanks to Hyperbyte
14:49
<Hyperbyte>
!action rocks!
14:49
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: Error: "action" is not a valid command.
14:49
<vagrantc>
yay
14:49
<Hyperbyte>
Oh
14:49
It isn't? :\
14:49
<vagrantc>
be careful with those !
14:49
<Hyperbyte>
Why? :P
14:50
<alkisg>
!h is Hyperbyteeeeeeeeeee!
14:50
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "h" is not a valid command.
14:50
<vagrantc>
we've spammed #ltsp enough for one day :)
14:50
<alkisg>
!v is Vagrantcccccccccc!
14:50
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "v" is not a valid command.
14:50
<alkisg>
Damn I forgot "learn"
14:50
OK ok enough, good night all
14:50
<Hyperbyte>
Hehe, g'night Alkis. =)
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<TheMatrix3000_>
anyone here running ltsp on 11.04?
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16:33
<TheMatrix3000_>
is there a way i can increase the load spead of initrd
16:34
and vmlinuz
16:34
on our old ltsp server its super fast, but on the new one i built its super slow
16:34
can it be compressed or anything?
16:38
if i get rid of nbd everything sucks it seams
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<TheMatrix3000_>
btw, i hate nbd, it simply causes more issues than good on my server
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18:43
<pmatulis>
TheMatrix3000_: what NBD issues are you having?
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18:51
<TheMatrix3000_>
nevermind
18:51
i got it
18:51
the ltsp was on another vlan than the sales floor
18:51
it will work
18:51
ltsp was on 2.0 and sales comps are on 4.0
18:52
if i put ltsp on 4.0 the speed issues went away
18:52
is this most likely a router issue?
18:53
or is it an issue ltsp has with loading onto other networks
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<pmatulis>
TheMatrix3000_: well, ltsp depends on dhcp protocol which is very subnet/vlan dependent. you're lucky it worked at all. it sounds like inefficient routing issue
19:00
<TheMatrix3000_>
well, i don't have dhcp running on the ltsp server
19:00
i have it running on the firewall/router
19:00
which pushes the tftp config
19:00
im looking at the routing issue right now
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<TheMatrix3000_>
could possible be that pfsense doesn't like it
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<TheMatrix3000_>
solved it
19:26
im an idiot
19:26
i forgot about the traffic shaper
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<alkisg>
!question
20:52
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "question" is not a valid command.
20:52
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: you need to install the pysqlite package
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<alkisg>
!question
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<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "question" is not a valid command.
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<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: I think it's `yum install python-sqlite`, to verify if you managed to do it, run `python`, and inside it `import sqlite`.
21:48
sqlite3 won't do
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