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Channel log from 16 February 2009 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <Ryan52> no.
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| 00:00 | it should only be on the server.
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| 00:01 | <johnny> Ryan52, .. well.. if you'ore using local apps.. that might be useful .. :)
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| 00:01 | <kaos01> oh i was just trying to identify where the problem might be ...
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| 00:01 | though it might get first mounted on the client than somehow "exported"
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| 00:02 | <Ryan52> johnny, current trunk has some code to make that work, I think. tho it doesn't work, I think. :P
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| 00:02 | <johnny> Ryan52, it'd be nice to get the dbus thing going between the client and server
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| 00:02 | i'd like to see the next hackfest focus on that , if it isn't done by then
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| 00:03 | <kaos01> i get a directory like so drwx------ 4 root mkovacs3 4096 2009-02-16 17:00 /media/mkovacs3/
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| 00:03 | <johnny> would make all sorts of fun stuff easier..
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| 00:03 | <Ryan52> kaos01: hmm. try "sudo chown /media/mkovacs3/" and look again.
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| 00:03 | err.
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| 00:04 | <kaos01> chgrp
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| 00:04 | <Ryan52> "sudo chown mkovacs3 /media/mkovacs3/"
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| 00:04 | no.
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| 00:04 | group has no permissions..
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| 00:04 | so that would do nothing.
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| 00:04 | johnny, hmm. does kde use dbus?
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| 00:04 | <johnny> sure
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| 00:04 | <kaos01> YAY it works :)
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| 00:04 | <johnny> but the important thing.. is that X uses dbus..
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| 00:04 | <kaos01> if i change permissions
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| 00:05 | * Ryan52 doesn't understand dbus yet :P | |
| 00:05 | <johnny> Ryan52, dude.. you should get to work on that
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| 00:05 | Ryan52, i'm not an expert, but i'd be willing to help you on that adventure, as soon as you want to take it
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| 00:05 | <kaos01> so now i guess i need to ask, why are the permissions wrong :)
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| 00:06 | <johnny> Ryan52, i also have an application for you, that will help you understand it
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| 00:06 | <Ryan52> johnny, ok...where?
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| 00:06 | <johnny> altho perhaps there is something better now, it's been awhile
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| 00:06 | https://fedorahosted.org/d-feet/
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| 00:06 | <Ryan52> kaos01, not sure...what version of fedora are you using? are you using the live images? are you up to date?
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| 00:06 | and is your chroot up to date?
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| 00:07 | <johnny> Ryan52, when you use a crochety distro like debian.. you were never forced to learn it :)
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| 00:07 | <kaos01> haha
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| 00:07 | <johnny> altho.. as more apps start using it..it is going to be required knowledge in the long run
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| 00:08 | <Ryan52> johnny: ya, that's the good part. :P
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| 00:08 | <kaos01> i need to see if chroot is upto date, everything else shoudl be
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| 00:09 | <johnny> Ryan52, but dbus isn't just nice for applications.. it's also nice for any advanced users
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| 00:09 | as it makes a number of things easier
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| 00:09 | in tweaking out your system
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| 00:10 | Ryan52, some people have even implemented a scripting language on top of it
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| 00:10 | so you can write a script like this
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| 00:11 | tell banshee's engine to play SomeFile
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| 00:11 | <kaos01> when im in chroot sometimes i cannot unmount /proc is there a way around that ?
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| 00:12 | <johnny> perhaps cuz you did not exit the chroot ?
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| 00:12 | <Ryan52> cannot isn't very specific...:)
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| 00:12 | <johnny> before attempting to unmount
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| 00:13 | <kaos01> thought the procedura was chroot -> mount proc -> do some work ->umount proc -> exit chroot
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| 00:13 | <johnny> no
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| 00:13 | <Ryan52> mount proc -> chroot -> do stuff -> exit -> unmount
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| 00:13 | <kaos01> ok
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| 00:14 | <Ryan52> haven't they made a script to do that by now?
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| 00:14 | <johnny> Ryan52, so.. that d-feet application will let you browse around to see what services are offered by your computer
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| 00:14 | and you can poke and prod them
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| 00:14 | <johnny> or twiddle them in any shell script via the dbus-send application
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| 00:15 | Ryan52, you'll see the kinds of things that are tweakable in a hopefully a less DE and distro specific eway
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| 00:16 | Ryan52, also.. dbus-monitor is kind of fun.. to see what's going on in the background of your distro :)
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| 00:16 | Ryan52, as you can see.. kde adopted networkmanager, that is heavily reliant on dbus in many levels
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| 00:17 | Ryan52, watching dbus-monitor.. is kind of like an orchestra :)
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| 00:18 | <Ryan52> hmm. it's kinda like watching "tail -F /dev/null" for me. :P
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| 00:18 | <johnny> lol
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| 00:19 | signal sender=:1.124 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/gnome/Rhythmbox/Player; interface=org.gnome.Rhythmbox.Player; member=elapsedChanged
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| 00:19 | that's what i'm seeing happen every second..
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| 00:20 | i also see one when my im client contacts change status
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| 00:21 | and one when the song changes.. which then updates my IM client (via dbus)
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| 00:21 | Ryan52, you would see one if you changed networks with knetworkmanager
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| 00:21 | or plugged in any hardware..
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| 00:25 | Ryan52, but if you look in d-feet, you should see the services that your software offers
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| 00:25 | including xorg
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| 00:25 | <Ryan52> ya.
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| 00:25 | <johnny> it's pretty sweet
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| 00:25 | <Ryan52> mpd is running on my system? :P
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| 00:27 | <johnny> Ryan52, log into a gnome box..i wonder how much difference you'll see..
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| 00:28 | <Ryan52> I don't own a gnome box...lemme try my kde system.
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| 00:29 | <johnny> Ryan52, you won't really find dbus on servers.. yet
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| 00:29 | Ryan52, altho if you noticed.. dhcpd and dnsmasq both can work with dbus now
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| 00:30 | so you can script em out much more nicely as the interfaces become more developed
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| 00:42 | <Ryan52> so when a new song starts playing, mpd sends out an event on the bus, and any app can react to that, right?
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| 00:46 | * alkisg wonders why programs like `finger` or `chfn` do not support utf-8... Holy monsters that noone wants to update? | |
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| 01:17 | <johnny> alkisg, i've yet to need them
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| 01:17 | Ryan52, sure
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| 01:17 | alkisg, in 8 years
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| 01:18 | <alkisg> johnny: I wanted to be able to change a user name (the comment in passwd) from a script... Fortunately usermod supports utf8.
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| 01:18 | <Ryan52> cool. now if only there was a POE::Component::DBus...:)
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| 01:18 | <johnny> Ryan52, there should be perl bindings already
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| 01:18 | <Ryan52> yes, but not poe.
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| 01:18 | <johnny> just not wrapped up in a POE perhaps
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| 01:18 | i'm not really a perl person
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| 01:19 | Ryan52, the one perl project i am watching atm.. is a transport for xmpp that uses libpurple
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| 01:24 | they are having trouble figuring out autotools it sounds like
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| 01:27 | <Ryan52> 0.o...autotools with perl?
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| 01:28 | <johnny> well, it has to build libpurple too as far as i can tell
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| 02:20 | <Munae> hey johnny u aroud_
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| 02:20 | <johnny> perhaps..
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| 02:22 | <Nubae> so I installled Gentoo
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| 02:22 | after having a go with suse.....
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| 02:23 | Suse just totally killed my system.... it behaved like a windows install
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| 02:24 | It just basically wipeout out the partition I specifically told it not to...and Im certain about it too
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| 02:26 | I then went ahead and checked out the state of gentoo, and was pleasantly surprised that for the most part installer was very logical and nice.
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| 02:26 | <johnny> i only have tried the installer twice.. it screwed up twice
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| 02:27 | that was awhile ago tho
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| 02:27 | <Nubae> but it seems to have only half installed for some reason
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| 02:27 | <johnny> half installed?
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| 02:27 | i've never trusted the installer.. i haven't gone back yet
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| 02:27 | i just refresh with the quick install guide
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| 02:28 | <Nubae> or does it not come with X by default and a regular user?
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| 02:28 | ok
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| 02:29 | <Nubae> well Ill go over the manual install... last time I did this was like 6 years ago... but its all still nicely logical
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| 02:30 | Suse... I dont understand how people can run that
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| 02:30 | its worse than windows
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| 02:31 | I|m writing up a report now, but basically theyve tried to rewrite everything.... from their own caching server and firewall, to their dreaded worsened yast experience
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| 02:31 | to me its not even a regular linux distro anymore
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| 02:35 | johnny, which windows manager do u run on ure gentoo?
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| 02:35 | <johnny> i run gnome
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| 02:35 | with metacity
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| 02:36 | <Nubae> xfce runs nice on it too
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| 02:39 | <johnny> i guess..
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| 05:56 | <knipwim> johnny: i'm executing lts-build-client on gentoo
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| 05:56 | and after fetching and unpacking the stage
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| 05:56 | it goes on to building the kernel
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| 05:56 | and gives the error * could not emerge kernel sources
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| 05:57 | you know what causes that, or where the error originates?
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| 06:00 | <gate_keeper_> any recommends for ltsp clustering
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| 06:00 | ha or hpc?
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| 06:00 | for ubuntu 8.04
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| 06:02 | <stgraber> you can look at ltsp-cluster but what it does is load-balancing users between a pool of application server
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| 06:02 | it doesn't do HA altough we do it for our customers (for all services except the application servers)
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| 06:05 | <DarKnesS_WolF> mm i just getting connection refused on the LTSP fatclient even i did ltsp-update-sshkeys and update-image waht might be the problem ?
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| 06:05 | this is a fresh image i just generated
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| 06:06 | <Appiah> anyone using pam_mount? I have no idea on how to mount multiply shares in this pam_mount.conf.xml. Can only get it to mount 1
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| 06:13 | <ogra> stgraber, we'll need a solution for dontzap if we want to support it in ltsp
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| 06:14 | (depend on the dontzap package and add an initscript hook for a lts.conf variable to enable it)
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| 06:14 | <stgraber> ogra: isn't dontzap a xorg.conf option ?
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| 06:14 | <ogra> control-atl-bspace is disabled upstream now
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| 06:14 | *alt
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| 06:15 | which means you cant kill the X server
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| 06:15 | <stgraber> ogra: if so, people who want it enabled, can simply set a variable in lts.conf
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| 06:15 | <ogra> thats what i mean
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| 06:15 | you need the dontzap package in the chroot
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| 06:15 | <stgraber> what exactly does dontzap (the binary) ? tweak xorg.conf ?
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| 06:15 | <ogra> oh, wait, we have that as lts.conf option already ?
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| 06:15 | <stgraber> if so we don't need it
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| 06:16 | we have lts.conf to add options to pretty much everywhere in xorg.conf
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| 06:16 | <ogra> it sets DontZap "False"
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| 06:16 | to override the new default
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| 06:16 | well, then all is fine
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| 06:16 | <stgraber> ogra: in what section ? Screen ?
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| 06:17 | <ogra> Section "ServerFlags"
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| 06:17 | Option "DontZap" "False"
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| 06:17 | EndSection
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| 06:17 | <stgraber> oh, ServerFlags ... we don't have that in screen-session.d yet
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| 06:17 | <ogra> thats what i get with calling "dontzap -d"
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| 06:18 | <stgraber> ok, added to my list. I'll probably poke Gadi or vagrantc, they are the ones who most recently touched that code
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| 06:19 | I'm not yet sure if we just want an extra screen-session.d script to do the same as dontzap
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| 06:19 | or completely add support for serverflags instead
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| 06:19 | <ogra> or just install dontzap and call dontzap -d/-e
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| 06:20 | if X_ZAPPING is set or some such
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| 06:20 | <stgraber> well, I don't know if dontzap (the package) is present in all distro. Doing it with a screen-session.d script will work for all distro
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| 06:20 | <ogra> it properly uses Xkit to modify the config
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| 06:21 | which should be used for all xorg.conf modifications nowadays
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| 06:21 | <stgraber> ogra: we don't use /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
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| 06:21 | <ogra> oh ?
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| 06:21 | <stgraber> we have /var/run/ltsp-xorg.conf :)
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| 06:21 | <ogra> how does i.e. Gadi configure his serial touchscreens then ?
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| 06:21 | ah
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| 06:22 | and link it ?
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| 06:22 | <stgraber> no, we start with -config /var/run/ltsp-xorg.conf
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| 06:22 | <ogra> ah
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| 06:27 | <alkisg> DarKnesS_WolF: you could open a local terminal, run `ssh server` and see if any there are any messages displayed.
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| 06:29 | <DarKnesS_WolF> alkisg: the strange thing is now i do ltsp-update-sshkey then update-img
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| 06:29 | i reboot it works
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| 06:29 | if i didn't reboot the ltsp server machine it will connection refused !
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| 06:31 | <ogra> sudo killall nbd-server ... shuld work without rebooting
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| 06:31 | we should probably add a switch to ltsp-update-image to forcefully kill all nbd servers if the admin is sure there are no running connections
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| 06:35 | <DarKnesS_WolF> ogra: mmmmm ok will check
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| 06:36 | ogra: question, if i dont' want to use nbd and use the /var/lib/ltsp/amd64 files directory any clue / howtos?
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| 06:37 | <ogra> you need to modify initramfs.conf in the chroot (BOOT=nfs) and run a chrooted update-initramfs -u, then ltsp-update-kernels and indeed set up an nfs server... i *think* that should be enough but its 1.5y ago that i tested it last
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| 06:38 | <DarKnesS_WolF> ogra: ok will try
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| 06:45 | ogra: the NFS server of course on the ltsp main server right ? not the chrooted ?
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| 06:45 | <ogra> right
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| 06:46 | <DarKnesS_WolF> ok will test
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| 06:46 | so now i can kill nbd server?
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| 06:50 | <alkisg> Not sure if this is correct: sudo invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
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| 06:50 | DarKnesS_WolF: ^^^
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| 06:51 | <DarKnesS_WolF> alkisg: mmm ok
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| 06:51 | testing i hope it will boot via NFS not via the img.
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| 06:52 | <alkisg> (nbd-server is in /etc/inetd.conf)
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| 06:53 | <DarKnesS_WolF> mm not working same connection refused
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| 06:53 | ogra: i just did exactly what u said
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| 07:40 | <DarKnesS_WolF> alkisg: even now with normal img. after i do restart nbd still the same connection refused
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| 07:45 | <alkisg> DarKnesS_WolF: Erm, what? It doesn't work at all now, even with nbd?
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| 07:48 | <alkisg> DarKnesS_WolF: I don't know anything about switching from nbd to nfs or vise versa. There's a how to in the ubuntu wiki, but I don't know how old it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupLTSPDevelEnvironment (there's a paragraph "Using NFS in replacement of NBD" there)
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| 07:51 | <jammcq> good morning #ltsp
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| 07:52 | <ogra> hey jammcq
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| 07:53 | <DarKnesS_WolF> thx
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| 10:13 | <oCean_> hi. just finished installing ltsp. (on ubuntu 8.04) How to create user accounts? Should I create account in chroot env /opt/ltsp/i386? Using useraccount on server, I get full access to the Ubuntu serverenvironment, while I expect to login in a chrooted environment?
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| 10:14 | <oCean_> I cannot find the documentation on how to handle useraccounts (besides docu on ldap users)
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| 10:16 | <ogra> ltsp sessions run on the server
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| 10:16 | the chroot is only for booting the client, bringing up x and the login manager ...
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| 10:17 | you dont log in to the chroot
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| 10:17 | <oCean_> ogra: okay! So my assumption was wrong .. and the config is ok :)
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| 10:17 | <ogra> right
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| 10:18 | <oCean_> ogra: Great. I thought user had restricted .. err, limited access to applications etcetera. That's something I have to config on the Ubuntu server I guess
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| 10:19 | <ogra> right
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| 10:22 | <oCean_> Do you know if anything (e.g. software or tutorial) exists, to limit access to applications, or even better to create a default set of applications a user is allowed to run?
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| 10:22 | <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ probably has something, not sure
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| 10:23 | <oCean_> ogra: thx!
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| 10:43 | <johnny> knipwim, i'll have to get back to you in a bit on that
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| 10:46 | <knipwim> that's okay, i'm not in a hurry
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| 11:02 | <knipwim> besides, doing things manually is a good way to learn :)
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| 11:32 | <sakhi> hi
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| 11:33 | which command is used to install ltsp?
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| 11:33 | I'm running a thin client environment.
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| 11:37 | <Lns> sakhi: need more info
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| 11:37 | !question
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| 11:37 | <ltspbot> Lns: "question" is if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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| 11:48 | <alkisg> How often is LTSP updated for Debian testing? Is it like e.g. 1 month behind ltsp-upstream?
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| 11:53 | <ogra> depends on the freeze thats in effect i'd guess
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| 11:53 | like in ubuntu
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| 11:53 | (juts that debian freeze times can be endless)
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| 11:53 | <alkisg> So something like sidux would be more appropriate? Or should I try sid?
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| 11:54 | <ogra> currently sid and testing are the same
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| 11:54 | <alkisg> (on one of my kids PCs, I just want to see debian in action)
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| 11:54 | <ogra> if there even is a testing branch already
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| 11:54 | lenny released yesterday
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| 11:54 | <alkisg> Yeah, but I was looking for a rolling release, so that I don't have to do dist-upgrade (it often breaks... ;))
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| 11:55 | * ogra doesnt know how often sidux syncs against debian | |
| 11:56 | <ogra> or if its even stable
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| 11:56 | <alkisg> Well, I'll go for testing then and see what I get. I'm sure my kids won't hold it against me. :P Ty!
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| 12:06 | <sakhi> Lns: I used the command ltsp-build-client
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| 12:08 | <Lns> sakhi: that should be the one =)
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| 12:35 | <morehpperliter> Hello.
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| 12:35 | I am using edubuntu.
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| 12:36 | <morehpperliter> And on startup of PXE client I get [ 18.719276] nbd0: Recieve control failed (result -32)
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| 12:42 | <Gadi> morehpperliter: grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 12:43 | is there an nbdrootd entry?
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| 12:44 | <Lns> I'm pretty sure I had this conversation with someone before, but anyone want to discuss nbd swapfile issues with me?
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| 12:45 | <Gadi> Lns: grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 12:45 | is there and nbdswapd entry?
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| 12:45 | :)
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| 12:45 | <Lns> Gadi: yes :)
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| 12:45 | <Gadi> (couldnt resist)
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| 12:45 | <Lns> I think you were the one to tell me to add that before, so i did at all my sites
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| 12:45 | hehe
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| 12:46 | I've got 2 issues - primarily involving https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/281498 - and also the fact that the swapfiles don't get removed, filling up the /tmp (or / ) filesystem eventually.
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| 12:48 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> anyone else have trouble w/ ubuntuforums.org?
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| 12:49 | <Lns> CAN-o-SPAM_: "We'll be right back after we perform some quick maintenance to improve performance and upgrade to the latest forum software release. We are removing some old archives as well which will take some time. "
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| 12:49 | <morehpperliter> All forums were attacked this week.
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| 12:49 | Aussie hacker.
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| 12:49 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> ok good, i don't need to see the eye doctor for a prescription adjustment
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| 12:50 | <Lns> damn aussies!
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| 12:50 | who would want to attack ubuntu! They are only attacking themselves, as it is what we all are ;)
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| 12:50 | <morehpperliter> Trying to make some dough.
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| 12:50 | ad bots
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| 12:53 | <Lns> what a bad target for ads... like any ubuntu forum user is gonna be all "Wow, Adobe Acrobat for $1.00!!!"
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| 12:55 | <huey> "wow, evince for free!!!"
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| 12:55 | <Lns> heh...like that whole slightly-modified-OOo that makes you pay $89 after a month or something
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| 12:56 | <huey> was it modified? or was it just a scammer
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| 12:56 | <mistik1> $1, I better go get a copy
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| 12:56 | Where's my credit card
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| 12:56 | <Lns> huey: I think the license was modified enough to make it legal for them to pay for it
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| 12:57 | <huey> mistik1: if you give me your credit card # and name and 3 digits on the back, i can take care of it for you for free
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| 12:57 | <Lns> http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F15%2F2029235&from=rss
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| 12:58 | <mistik1> huey: um, ok
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| 12:58 | :)
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| 12:59 | <Lns> chroot 'root' account must be unlocked to run cron jobs (on the client), correct?
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| 13:06 | <Lns> nm, looks like it from some googling.
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| 13:07 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "Lns: completely untested :)" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/251
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| 13:08 | <Lns> Gadi: wow! what service. ;)
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> dont run it on anything you care about right away
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| 13:08 | :)
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| 13:08 | <Lns> you know what's strange is that on my OWN server, i only have two swapfiles in /tmp, which makes me believe there is *some* sort of functionality to remove them (wasn't it something to do w/keepalive?)
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| 13:09 | Gadi: oh of course
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| 13:09 | <Gadi> the problem is when keepalive kills things rather than nbd-server dying on its own
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| 13:10 | <Lns> ah..from client crash, etc?
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| 13:10 | <Gadi> because keepalive kills nbdswapd (which contains the code to delete the file)
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| 13:10 | rather than just killing the nbd-server part
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| 13:10 | <johnny> didn't we already discuss a possible solution to this Lns ?
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| 13:10 | <Lns> johnny: maybe :)
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| 13:10 | <Gadi> we probably just need to trap kills to nbdswapd
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| 13:10 | and exit on our own
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| 13:10 | thats the real fix
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| 13:11 | <Lns> Gadi: that's kinda what i was thinking..take it out of that box and monitor it from 'above'
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| 13:11 | not that i have any idea what i'm talking about :)
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| 13:16 | <ogra> Gadi, ++
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| 13:16 | traps FTW !
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| 13:20 | <Gadi> ogra: do you know what signal tcpd sends when it kills?
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| 13:20 | hopefully not KILL
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| 13:20 | hopefully HUP
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| 13:20 | or some such
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| 13:20 | <ogra> no idea
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| 13:20 | but yiu can set traps on kill as well
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> KILL 9 exit this signal may not be blocked
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| 13:22 | <ogra> 9 ...
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| 13:23 | * ogra mixed it up with 15... | |
| 13:24 | <Gadi> well, we can trap and hope for the best
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| 13:24 | :)
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| 13:24 | Lns: can I paste you a replacement nbdswapd to test?
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| 13:27 | <Lns> Gadi: sure... i really need to get a test env. though :)
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| 13:27 | but i can use it on my own and test
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| 13:27 | Gadi: i'm using Hardy if that matters
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| 13:28 | <ogra> hardy is ancient, use jaunty :P
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| 13:29 | (sorry, had to say that, Gadi expects it from me :P )
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| 13:29 | <Gadi> sad, but true
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| 13:29 | :)
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| 13:30 | of course, we've had hardy support built in since Breezy
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| 13:30 | :)
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| 13:30 | <ogra> indeeed !
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| 13:32 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "nbdswapd" (74 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/252
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| 13:33 | <Gadi> HUP TERM ABRT QUIT
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| 13:33 | hopefully that does it
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| 13:33 | <laga> Gadi: bless ya
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| 13:33 | <Gadi> :)
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| 13:35 | let's pray tcpd kills gently
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| 13:35 | <Lns> Gadi: thank you so much, this is awesome =) let me test it out in a bit
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| 13:38 | <Gadi> Lns: np - if the trap works, you can forget aout the cron script
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| 13:38 | :)
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| 13:38 | <Lns> Gadi: gotcha. =)
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| 13:39 | oh, and ogra,... jaunty is just a bit too bleeding edge for me being the only admin of 9 sites. So blarp to you! =p
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| 13:56 | <calincito> hola necesito ayada con un problema de ltsp
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| 14:02 | <rjune> calincito, no hablo espagnol
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| 14:02 | te hablo anglais?
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| 14:04 | <Lns> Gadi: so to test new nbdswapd, i should just crash my client a few times and see if the swapfiles hang around or not, correct?
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| 14:05 | (I know it's a dumb question..just want to make sure :) )
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| 14:14 | <calincito> configure the boot ltsp as a switch 3com model superstack 3c17300a funsiona perfectly and when I use the 3com 3cblsg24 swith a brand I can not find the error that tftp, which could be the problem
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| 14:20 | <calincito> anyone have a clue about this problem I have with the switch
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| 14:20 | <epsas> Remember people: Gravity doesn't exist. The Earth just sucks.
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| 14:20 | <Lns> calincito: so one switch works and the other doesnt?
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| 14:20 | <epsas> oh sorry, wrong channel there
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| 14:38 | <din_os> hello
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| 14:40 | <din_os> how come some sites like ign.com come to a crawl on even a single client?
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| 14:43 | <johnny> din_os, that kind of thing happens for me even on my own computer.. no ltsp involved.
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| 14:46 | <Appiah_> /j #suse
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| 14:46 | ops
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| 14:48 | <sakhi> I have built ltsp for thin clients and the error message I get is pxe-t01 file not found and tftp error file not found.
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| 14:48 | <vagrantc> !release
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| 14:48 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "release" is please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
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| 14:48 | <vagrantc> sakhi: ^^
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| 14:49 | <sakhi> the error message is on the client
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| 14:49 | <ogra> vagrantc, pfft, stating the obvious through bots ...
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> Lns: sorry, yes - and wait the 2 hour timeout period
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| 14:49 | <vagrantc> ogra: that's what they're good for.
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| 14:49 | <ogra> :)
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| 14:50 | * Gadi is starting to enjoy ogra-as-waldorf-from-the-muppets | |
| 14:50 | <Gadi> :)
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| 14:50 | <ogra> wanna be stadler ?
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| 14:50 | ;)
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| 14:50 | * Gadi wants to be animal | |
| 14:50 | <sakhi> the clint pc can id the ip from dhcp and gets an IP from the server, I don;t think it's reading the image in order to boot.
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| 14:51 | <calincito> I'm using the distro is opensuse 10.3
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| 14:51 | <ogra> grow your hair then
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> sakhi: grep next-server /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 14:51 | <sakhi> I'm using 8.04 upgraded.
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| 14:51 | <calincito> and actually makes the mistake is not to find the tftp boot time when the customer
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| 14:51 | <Lns> Gadi: ok, thanks! =)
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| 14:52 | <Gadi> calincito: is that a managed switch?
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| 14:53 | <Lns> lol... can i be Zoot? =)
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| 14:53 | <calincito> a switch is actually manageable, the above are not manageable
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| 14:54 | <sakhi> Gadi: should I remove the comment on that line?
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| 14:54 | <Gadi> sakhi: yes, and make sure the IP is correct
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| 14:54 | and: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
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| 14:54 | <ogra> Gadi, huh ?
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| 14:55 | <Gadi> huh?
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| 14:55 | <ogra> why should he do that ?
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| 14:55 | unless his tftp server is on a different machine
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| 14:55 | <Gadi> add next-server to his dhcp?
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| 14:55 | <ogra> yes
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| 14:55 | <Gadi> his client is obviously not finding the tftp server
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| 14:56 | <ogra> right, why would you expect that to change with next-server being set
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| 14:56 | i rather assume he has another dhcpd running
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| 14:56 | <Gadi> perhaps its the pxe client
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| 14:56 | could be that, too
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| 14:56 | :)
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| 14:56 | <calincito> anyone have a clue about my problem, I used ubuntun and me funsionado the same switch without any problem but the version with which I would like it to opensuse which has given me problems with this switch
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| 14:56 | <sakhi> Gadi: it is a pxe client
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| 14:56 | <Gadi> it doesnt hurt to set next-server
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| 14:57 | <Lns> calincito: is your tftp server on the same server as dhcpd?
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| 14:57 | <ogra> calincito, the prob is that opensuse does use kiwi wrapped around the ltsp scripts, there are not many kiwi experts around in this channel
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| 14:57 | <calincito> Check the different script and not find the error for which I am not a pc funsionan to switch their comment
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| 14:57 | <ogra> so help with changing your config is a bit tricky
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| 14:58 | <din_os> johnny: actually on my server it runs smooth as a baby's ... but on the client it becomes unusable, i've iftop-ed it to see what's wrong but the network doesn't seem to be the problem
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| 14:58 | <Lns> not that this is related, but i found with IPCop dhcpd, you need to set 'server-identifier', 'tftp-server-name' (and 'next-server' since tftp isn't on that box)
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| 14:59 | <ogra> ?? Lns the dhcpd ubuntu ships is IPCop dhcpd
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| 14:59 | <johnny> huh?
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| 14:59 | <ogra> none of these options were ever needed in ubuntu
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| 15:00 | <johnny> it's isc ?
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| 15:00 | <vagrantc> calincito: i think there is a #kiwi-ltsp channel ...
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| 15:00 | <ogra> oops
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| 15:00 | indeed
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| 15:00 | <vagrantc> calincito: you might have luck there
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| 15:00 | <calincito> oks
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| 15:00 | thank
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| 15:00 | <din_os> ?
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| 15:00 | <ogra> Lns, feel free to ignore me :)
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| 15:01 | <Lns> ogra: sorry, giong back and forth =)
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| 15:02 | <ogra> Lns, i'm just trying to cope with my newly Gadi-assigned-waldorf-role here
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| 15:03 | <Lns> lol!
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| 15:03 | <vagrantc> !kiwi
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| 15:03 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "kiwi" is http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 15:03 | <Lns> su - waldorf
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| 15:04 | <din_os> so I guess I have to live with no ign then.. it's strange cause even youtube runs ok, with a small hit on framerate
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| 15:05 | maybe the client can't handle too much javascript + flash at the same time...
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| 15:05 | <johnny> firefox itself doesn't do a good job with that either..
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| 15:05 | hopefully 3.1 will help resolve the issue with js
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| 15:06 | <din_os> thanks, at least it's a known issue, I've been looking around the web for tips on this with no improvement
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn kiwi as also see the channel #kiwi-ltsp
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> !kiwi
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "kiwi" is (#1) http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP, or (#2) also see the channel #kiwi-ltsp
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: forget kiwi 2
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> !kiwi
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "kiwi" is http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn kiwi as also see the irc channel #kiwi-ltsp
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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| 15:10 | <vagrantc> !kiwi
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "kiwi" is (#1) http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP, or (#2) also see the irc channel #kiwi-ltsp
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| 15:11 | * vagrantc will stop annoying the channel | |
| 15:11 | <vagrantc> it's much more difficult to interact with the bot in a private message, though ... the syntax for most commands change...
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| 15:16 | <Lns> vagrantc: yeah, not like you don't contribute anything useful to this channel, stop playing with the bots and leave everyone alone. =P~~ ~
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| 15:16 | <ogra> vagrantc, well, you missed nubae recently ... he was playing with google plugins for the whole day with his logbot, i had my moments where i considered taking #ltsp out of autojoin
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| 15:16 | <sakhi> Gadi: nope. no joy
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| 15:17 | <Gadi> sakhi: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 15:17 | <sakhi> I'm sure I'm missing out something
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| 15:17 | <Lns> ogra: but don't you like knowing how many search results your name brings up, vs. mine?
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| 15:17 | <Gadi> sakhi: dpkg -l |grep inetd
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| 15:18 | <ogra> Lns, if i try to get work done and get pinged every 30 sec ... ot so much
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| 15:18 | *not
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| 15:18 | <Lns> lol
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| 15:18 | <laga> 1google oliver grawert
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| 15:18 | oops
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| 15:18 | <Gadi> !seen ogra
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| 15:18 | <ltspbot> Gadi: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 25 seconds ago: <ogra> *not
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| 15:18 | <Gadi> :D
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| 15:18 | <ogra> laga, that doesnt ping me luckily :)
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| 15:18 | <Gadi> should've waited 5 secs
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| 15:18 | * Lns slaps Gadi with a large trout | |
| 15:19 | ogra is now known as waldorf | |
| 15:19 | * waldorf slaps Gadi with a big filled turkey | |
| 15:19 | waldorf is now known as ogra | |
| 15:20 | <Lns> hahahaha
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| 15:20 | tar n feather him
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| 15:20 | <Gadi> a big filled turkey? that's what you cam eup with
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| 15:20 | :)
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| 15:21 | @trans en@de big filled turkey
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| 15:21 | <ltsplogbot> | |
| 15:21 | * ogra goes to ignore IRC now and celebrate the last 2h of his b-day | |
| 15:21 | <laga> ogra: happy birthday!
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| 15:21 | <Lns> ogra: !!!
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| 15:21 | <Gadi> happy b-day!
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| 15:21 | (you big filled turkey)
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| 15:21 | <Lns> happy bday ogra! =p
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| 15:21 | <ogra> heh
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| 15:21 | thanks :)
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| 15:21 | * Lns cheers ogra | |
| 15:22 | <Gadi> ltspbot: learn turkey as ogra was born on February 16th at a very young age
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| 15:22 | <ltspbot> Gadi: The operation succeeded.
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| 15:22 | <Gadi> !turkey
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| 15:22 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "turkey" is ogra was born on February 16th at a very young age
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| 15:22 | <Gadi> now, that's immortality...
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| 15:26 | <rjune> ogra, it's your birthday?
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| 15:28 | <sakhi> Gadi: I think the problem is with clients, /opt/ltsp/amd64/ instead of /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 15:29 | how can I install something that will work with i386 clients?
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| 15:29 | <Gadi> sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
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| 15:30 | <johnny> why doen't ubuntu default to i386 ?
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| 15:30 | i definitely decided to do taht on gentoo..
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| 15:30 | <sakhi> Gadi: I have 32 bit clients
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| 15:30 | <Gadi> right
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| 15:31 | run that command
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| 15:31 | <sakhi> johnny: I don't know why they do that.
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| 15:31 | <Gadi> because of a secret agenda to confuddle and bewilder
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| 15:34 | <Lns> Gadi: Care to take a gander at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/281498 ? What's your take on the issue? I kind of "forgot" about it, but since being on-site, remembered that pretty much every site has this issue if the clients turn on within a few seconds of each other (dhcp timeout, then boots to local disk, causing techs to boot/reboot clients until they get an IP)
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| 15:38 | <ltsppbot> "Lns" pasted "/opt/ltsp/arch/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup - configure_swap()" (46 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/253
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| 15:39 | <Gadi> wow
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| 15:39 | that was a long read
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| 15:39 | :)
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| 15:40 | <Lns> Gadi: sorry :)
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| 15:41 | <Gadi> so, wahts the problem?
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| 15:41 | :)
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| 15:41 | <Lns> This is probably a dumb comment, but I wonder why we can't create swapfiles once and re-use them (instead of dd'ing them each boot, causing server resources to be taken up)
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| 15:41 | Gadi: ^^^ not my q
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| 15:41 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 15:41 | dd'ing to /tmp takes no time at all
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| 15:41 | :)
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| 15:41 | <Lns> Gadi: so the hangup isn't there?
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| 15:41 | <Gadi> so, the problem is what again?
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| 15:42 | clients don't get swap?
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| 15:42 | <Lns> Gadi: my prob is that nbd_swap enabled clients hang for around 30-40 seconds every boot during swapfile creation
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| 15:42 | <Gadi> I got kinda confused reading
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| 15:42 | <Lns> no, they get them, eventually
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| 15:42 | <Gadi> thats it?
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| 15:42 | <Lns> during said 30-40 seconds, server i/o seems saturated, and other booting clients don't get a dhcp lease response, failing pxe boot
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| 15:43 | <Gadi> you mean the server is so busy making swapfile it ignores incoming requests for other things?
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| 15:43 | <Lns> Gadi: that's what I *think* is happening
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| 15:43 | it has all the symptoms that point to that
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| 15:43 | <Gadi> specious reasoning at best, my friend
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| 15:43 | :)
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| 15:44 | <Lns> during 30-40 sec, as the report states, the client shows "Setting up LTSP Client" - ..."Negotiation: Invalid operator"
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| 15:44 | and hangs there. once it gets past that point, dhcpd starts responding again
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| 15:44 | <Gadi> well, the invalid operator was a shell syntax error
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| 15:44 | <Lns> right
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| 15:44 | <Gadi> that you fixed no?
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| 15:45 | * Gadi wonders if it is fixed upstream | |
| 15:45 | <Lns> yes..lemme verify at all my sites, but i'm pretty sure i fixed it manually
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| 15:46 | <Gadi> seems to have been rewritten upstream
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| 15:47 | <Lns> hmm..
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| 15:47 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "function in latest upstream" (43 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/254
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| 15:49 | <Lns> hmm, i guess i fixed it at a couple sites..not all of them though
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| 15:50 | Gadi: you think it's possible that not having the quotes and therefore it giving the "invalid operator" causes that funct. to hang? if so, what's it hanging on?
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| 15:51 | * Lns wonders if he should replace the function w/upstream version's | |
| 15:51 | <sakhi> Gadi: the dist-upgrade command upgrades the Distro right?
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| 15:52 | <Gadi> sakhi: on ubuntu?
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| 15:52 | use:
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| 15:52 | <sakhi> yep
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| 15:52 | <Gadi> update-manager -d
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| 15:52 | <sakhi> Ubuntu
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| 15:52 | <Gadi> ^^^
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| 15:55 | * Lns grows weary of updating nbd filesystem after every change sometimes :( | |
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| 15:57 | <Gadi> think of it as revision control
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| 15:57 | backup the image before you do, and you can easily roll back
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| 15:57 | * vagrantc cringes, noticing ldm-trunk/ldminfod has absolutely no copyright license information | |
| 15:57 | <vagrantc> Lns: i grew weary of it before i ever did it! :)
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| 15:58 | <Lns> Gadi: that's what I was thinking... it'd be cool for ltsp-update-image to have a 'backup previous image' switch :) *hint hint*
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| 15:58 | i bet i could even come up with a function that does that, hehe
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| 15:58 | * Lns is a bash nightmare waiting to happen | |
| 16:00 | <Gadi> the only script so far I think I need bash for that I couldn't write in dash was getltscfg
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| 16:00 | :)
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| 16:00 | how ironic
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| 16:01 | well, I guess I could write it in dash but it would be ugly
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| 16:01 | some parsers just scream for arrays
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| 16:02 | <Lns> here's my code contribution :) sudo cp -a i386.img i386.img.`date +%F`
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| 16:02 | aren't I a genius =p
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| 16:02 | ack! doesn't do time in that. bad bad bad
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| 16:03 | <Gadi> lol
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| 16:03 | rev 0.2
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| 16:03 | <Lns> see what i mean! =p
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| 16:03 | <Gadi> :)
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| 16:03 | <Lns> hehe
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| 16:06 | <Lns> any issues with using a : in a filename?
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| 16:09 | <Lns> regarding thinking of it as revision control... another cool thing would be to be able to parse each image for changes made..i've been wondering how to accomplish something like that, to know *exactly* what has changed in the chroot filesystem. So many little modifications over time requires some sort of reference (I was thinking about using a wiki, which would work too)
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| 16:27 | <Lns> alright, v0.2: cp -a /opt/ltsp/images/$arch.img /opt/ltsp/images/$arch.img.`date +%F`-`date +%T|sed s/://g`
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| 16:31 | i am so smart..i am so smart...S M R T...I mean S M A R T
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| 16:33 | <laga> Lns: for future reference. the german translation is "ich bin so klug! k-l-u-k!"
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| 16:33 | <Lns> laga: klug = smart... hehehe
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| 16:37 | <sepski> how exactly do you change the cipher used in ldm/ltsp ?
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| 16:38 | i want to try a lighter cifer to see if i can improve on responsiveness
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| 16:39 | <Lns> sepski: i might be wrong, but wouldn't that be an sshd config option?
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| 16:40 | <sepski> when i run ssh manually it's ssh -c 'archfour' (example)
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| 16:40 | i see in lts.conf example how to change ssh port. and compression but not cipher or general options
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| 16:41 | <johnny> sepski, just go with LDM_DIRECTX first
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| 16:41 | <sepski> ?? did you get that out of the lts-parameters.txt.gz ?
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| 16:42 | <johnny> yes
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| 16:42 | it's a very popular option
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| 16:42 | <sepski> why is it not in my example file. i run lenny
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| 16:43 | <Ryan52> there's an example config file on Debian?
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| 16:43 | * Ryan52 didn't think there was | |
| 16:43 | <sepski> Ryan52, /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/
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| 16:44 | * Ryan52 still doesn't see an example lts.conf there.. | |
| 16:45 | <sepski> zless /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/lts-parameters.txt.gz it's also in zless /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/lts-parameters.txt.gz and a example file in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts.conf and in
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| 16:45 | ok added LDM_DIRECTX=True have to reboot i assume
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| 16:46 | <johnny> yes
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| 16:46 | <sepski> k brb
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| 16:50 | <sepski> have to test tomorrow thanks for the tip. goodnight
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| 16:50 | <johnny> reboot the client.. not the server :)
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| 17:00 | <phytax> hi, i wrote in my blog about using wine and thin clients using aufs without the need to install the apps for each user
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| 17:01 | <laga> sweet
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| 17:01 | got an URL?
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| 17:01 | <phytax> look here http://phytax.wordpress.com/
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| 17:01 | <johnny> install the app for each user? i thought wine could already do that..
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| 17:01 | perhaps not..
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| 17:29 | <Lns> johnny: you might be thinking of cxoffice
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| 17:29 | (which is wine on crack)
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| 17:29 | they have those "bottles" and multi-user config options
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| 17:41 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: if you haven't noticed, i've been doing a update of copyright headers for ldm, and ldm-trunk/generate_locale_list.py and misc/ldm-dialog.c have no such copyright or license information ... i think you're the original author :)
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| 17:42 | Ryan52: mind if i add the standard GPL v2+ headers?
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| 17:42 | <Ryan52> sure.
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| 17:50 | <ogra> oh, more copyright cleanup :)
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| 17:50 | nice
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| 17:52 | <vagrantc> ogra: since i'll be introducing a new binary with my next ldm upload, i wanted to get all the coypright stuff sorted out
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| 17:52 | <ogra> a new binary ?
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| 17:52 | what do you add ?
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| 17:52 | <vagrantc> binary package ... ldm-server
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| 17:52 | <ogra> ah
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| 17:53 | <vagrantc> for ldminfod + other dependencies not related to ldminfod
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| 17:53 | <ogra> yep
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| 17:54 | <vagrantc> ogra: i discovered "licensecheck" recently :)
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| 17:55 | <ogra> is that part of the debian/copyright automation attempt
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| 17:57 | <sakhi> I have installed ltsp on the server and the clients cat boot from the image when I log on with the user account it verifies the password but gives a message stating that computer is not authenticated to log on to the server. Please help
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| 17:58 | <ogra> sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 17:58 | <sakhi> yep I did that
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| 17:58 | still no joy
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| 18:01 | the funny thing with the second command is that it updates it to the amd64 which is located in the same path as the i386.
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| 18:01 | <johnny> that's why it doens't work
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| 18:01 | <ogra> ah
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| 18:01 | <johnny> ltsp-update-image -a i386
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| 18:01 | <ogra> right
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| 18:02 | <sakhi> johnny: ahh tell me,will moving the amd64 dir to a different location have a negative impact?
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| 18:03 | <ogra> depends if you have amd64 clients :)
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| 18:03 | <johnny> if you don't have any amd64 clients.. delete it
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| 18:03 | it's not ever going to be used
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| 18:04 | <sakhi> great stuff.
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| 18:06 | I have added the client in this directory, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 18:06 | is that ok?
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| 18:07 | host name, mac address,ip and the boot image location.
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| 18:09 | <ogra> right, thats fine
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| 18:09 | <sakhi> ok, brb
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| 18:42 | <sakhi> thanks, it works
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| 18:43 | I just need to give it some time too. I have another 30 clients to on in the next 3 or 4 hours. No sleep in bad.
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| 18:43 | kbye
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| 18:55 | <vagrantc> ogra: *sigh* all your copyright updates used the outdated FSF address :(
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| 19:04 | * vagrantc fixes it | |
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| 19:19 | <stgraber> hehe, next upstream is gonna be 90% of licensing commits :)
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| 19:19 | vagrantc: btw, I'll likely tag a ltspfs tomorrow, any progress on debuging that bug affecting Debian ?
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| 19:24 | <vagrantc> stgraber: cdpinger behaves very badly.
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| 19:25 | stgraber: that's the main issue, no progress on troubleshooting it.
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| 19:25 | stgraber: they work fine for you?
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| 19:25 | <stgraber> I don't have much thin clients with cd-rom drives but the few times I tried it worked fine with my bzr snapshot
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| 19:26 | is that a random crash or does it always fail ?
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| 19:27 | <vagrantc> i've never seen it work well ... inserting or removing a CD will not be noticed by the local mount ... and sometimes interferes with the remote cd mount as well
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| 19:27 | the initial state works fine, it's actually inserting and removing that causes problems
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| 19:29 | i can't see anything in the code suggesting why it wouldn't work...
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| 19:30 | gotta run...
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| 21:12 | <nothingman> hi, all
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| 22:43 | <kaos01> is local devices soposed to work in fedora 10 ?
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| 22:43 | <johnny> should
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| 22:43 | on gnome at least
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| 22:44 | <kaos01> well for me seems the permissions on /media/user are wrong
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| 22:44 | i.e. group has no rwx permissions
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| 22:44 | <johnny> i don't think it needs to
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| 22:44 | did you create the users with them as members of their own group?
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| 22:44 | <kaos01> well else i cant access the content
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| 22:45 | <johnny> all i see is a bunch of funny stuff on ubuntu.. odd symbols and whatnot when i try to look at em
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| 22:45 | <kaos01> yes fedor auses "private groups" by default
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| 22:46 | but but the directory is not readable by the group when created
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| 22:46 | i.e /media/user
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| 22:50 | <kaos01> it wouldnt be a umask thing ?
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| 23:22 | <jrd1> does anyone know how to get an Eon 4000 up and running?
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| 23:23 | i get a blank screen and no access to any ttys, i saw this problem discussed a year ago in the logs but the solution wasn't posted
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| 23:25 | <rjune_> jrd1: unfortunately, most of the folks who are likely to be able to help are not here right now.
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| 23:30 | <jrd1> ok thanks, i've been fighting with this thing for weeks!
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| 23:34 | <rjune_> jrd1: I suggest you pop in around 1500 GMT
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| 23:35 | I'm not sure who could help you, but this place starts getting active around 1300 GMT till around 0200GMT or so
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| 23:41 | <jrd1> thanks rjune, is drakeweb still active on this channel, he seemed to be the one who was able to figure this out
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