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Channel log from 29 December 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:51 | <vagrantc> tagging ltsp-trunk 5.1.43 ....
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| 01:13 | is it possible to make a gtkrc that could use a different engine based on which is installed?
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| 03:25 | <Alex_21> How can I have something other than the standard install of Ubuntu displayed. I am making my own version of the disktop, and that is what I want displayed to users.
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| 03:25 | Please
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| 04:03 | <Ryan52> stgraber, if ldm-themes isn't a real package, but is only "Provided" by some packages, then you need your depends to look like this: ldm-ubuntu-themes | ldm-themes
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| 04:04 | (re: LP #299947)
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| 04:16 | stgraber, err, nevermind, my test case was wrong, you're right, and the reporter is confused, I think..:)
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| 07:39 | <_UsUrPeR_> :D
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| 07:50 | <evilx_> Morning
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| 08:54 | <stgraber> hey Gadi, I found a bug in /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/XS85-xserver-device-options but I'm not entirely sure of the fix
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| 08:54 | <Gadi> do tell
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| 08:54 | <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~$ export X_DEVICE_OPTION_01="test"
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| 08:54 | stgraber@castiana:~$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 08:54 | awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
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| 08:54 | ^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=
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| 08:54 | <Gadi> whenever you see awk, think vagrantc
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| 08:55 | * Gadi dislikes using awk ;) | |
| 08:55 | <stgraber> yeah, unfortunately he lives in Portland :)
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| 08:55 | <evilx_> hmm
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> well, I can fix awk :)
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| 08:55 | <stgraber> so won't be around for at least one more hour
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| 08:55 | <Gadi> I just dont like using it
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| 08:55 | lemme see...
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| 08:55 | <stgraber> env | awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 08:55 | this one works
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| 08:55 | <evilx_> I get a qweird thing now from nbd_server with Read failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
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| 08:55 | <stgraber> but I'm not sure what I broke with this one
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| 08:56 | <evilx_> It was working fine when I turned off the machine a week ago, now I come back and started it up and I get this in the log file
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| 08:56 | <stgraber> Gadi: I basically removed the | from the original expression but I have no idea of what I broke
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> ah - you just removed the |
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 08:57 | the first one worked for me
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| 08:57 | export X_DEVICE_OPTION_01="test"
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| 08:57 | $ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 08:57 | test
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| 09:00 | stgraber: you cannot remove the |
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| 09:00 | it is basically a logical OR between nothing and DEVICE_
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| 09:01 | * Gadi does not know why it fails for you | |
| 09:04 | <evilx_> can anyone think of a reason why I would be getting this nbd error?
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| 09:13 | <stgraber> Gadi: ok, but why does it fail here :)
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| 09:14 | Gadi: doing exactly the same here fails
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> stgraber: does this work?
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| 09:47 | env | awk -F = '/^X(_|_DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 09:54 | <rjune> !g
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| 09:54 | <ltspbot> rjune: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:55 | <evilx_> can I specify the nbdip ?
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| 09:55 | on the init line?
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| 09:55 | <Gadi> hey, rjune
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| 09:56 | evilx_: I believe you can specify: nbdroot=
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| 09:56 | as in: nbdroot=<ip:port>
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| 09:56 | <evilx_> hmm
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| 09:57 | <evilx_> hmm
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| 09:58 | basically since it a img file
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| 09:59 | I think it might of gotten it this time
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| 10:00 | it failed again
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| 10:00 | it load up x and stuff, but it get a failed
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| 10:01 | <Gadi> bad image?
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| 10:01 | <evilx_> no it was working fine
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| 10:01 | but now it get Read failed: inappropriate ioctl for device
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| 10:01 | <Gadi> try: sudo pkill -f nbd
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| 10:01 | and reboot the client
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| 10:01 | (provided it is the only client
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| 10:02 | <evilx_> at the moment
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| 10:02 | * alkisg thinks the awk line is more readable with "?" (=zero or one time): env | awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}' | |
| 10:02 | <evilx_> back at Loading Hardware drivers... and is taking it time
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| 10:03 | <evilx_> did it again
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| 10:03 | Received control failed
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| 10:03 | Error : ioctl/1.1a failed: bad file descriptor
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> real thin client or virtual?
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| 10:04 | <evilx_> thin client
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| 10:04 | was just working
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| 10:06 | <evilx_> hold on, I am going to setup a virtual in vmware
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| 10:06 | to capture what it says
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| 10:07 | <Gadi> seems others have reported the same problem with no resolution
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| 10:08 | <evilx_> I might need to switch nbd to nfs
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| 10:08 | it was working great until I moved it on to a live network
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| 10:09 | and flipped off the dhcpd server and switched settings on the other
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 10:10 | do you have dhcp server issues?
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| 10:15 | <evilx_> not at the moment
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| 10:15 | sorry rebooted my desktop
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| 10:20 | <evilx_> hmm
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| 10:20 | some thing from pxe boot on vmware
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| 10:27 | HMM
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| 10:34 | <stgraber> Gadi: it doesn't give me an error but doesn't output anything either :)
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| 10:34 | vagrantc: your awk is broken :)
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| 10:34 | stgraber@castiana:~$ export X_DEVICE_OPTION="test"
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| 10:34 | stgraber@castiana:~$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 10:34 | awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
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| 10:34 | ^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=
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| 10:35 | vagrantc: ^
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> huh
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| 10:35 | worked when i did it
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| 10:35 | <stgraber> well, it seems to work in some cases (seems to work for Gadi) but it fails here and on my thin clients
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> stgraber: your test is broken :)
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| 10:36 | stgraber: try with X_DEVICE_OPTION_01
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| 10:36 | <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~$ export X_DEVICE_OPTION_01="test"
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| 10:36 | stgraber@castiana:~$ env | awk -F = '/^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 10:36 | awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
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| 10:36 | ^X_(|DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=
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| 10:37 | <vagrantc> totally works here.
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| 10:38 | stgraber: ls -l /etc/alternatives/awk
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| 10:38 | <stgraber> mawk
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> appears i've relied on gawk-isms
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> stgraber: try:
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> hrm.
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> env | awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 10:39 | <stgraber> vagrantc: well, my laptop was reinstalled recently so I guess mawk is the default
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> as per alkisg suggestion
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> stgraber, I didn't read all the last lines, but in export X_DEVICE_OPTION="test" the digits are missing
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| 10:39 | e.g. OPTION01
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| 10:40 | <vagrantc> stgraber: yes, well, if we call "awk" it should be compatible with all the possible awk's
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| 10:40 | <alkisg> OPTION_01
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| 10:40 | <stgraber> alkisg: yeah, my test are now with _01
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| 10:40 | <stgraber> vagrantc: ok, works with this one, I got "test" back which is good
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| 10:41 | <vagrantc> i wonder what other awk's we might have to support
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| 10:41 | * Gadi thinks mawk doesnt like (|blah) | |
| 10:41 | <Gadi> as in nothing or blah
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| 10:42 | but it is fine with 0|1
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| 10:42 | <alkisg> Try another extra parenthesis: ((0[1-9])|10)
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| 10:43 | <stgraber> vagrantc: will you commit the fix or should I ?
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| 10:43 | vagrantc: I plan on retagging just after that as I don't really want the broken awk in Jaunty :)
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| 10:44 | <evilx_> Gadi: i just ran ltsp-build-client
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| 10:44 | and i get stuff like debconfi: unable to initalize frontend: Passthrough
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| 10:44 | is that normal? it looks like it doing that for all server stuff
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| 10:45 | <vagrantc> stgraber: go ahead and commit it
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| 10:45 | stgraber: although i've been meaning to get a coupel other things in quick...
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| 10:46 | stgraber: like 099-mount-cdrom that we both appear to be using ...
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| 10:46 | even though it's kind of ugly, it's stilly to ship a separate copy
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| 10:48 | stgraber: and note that i added that awk call in multiple places ...
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| 10:49 | couldn't figure out how to make a simple function out of it...
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| 10:50 | oh, i guess the others aren't affected by that issue
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| 10:50 | <stgraber> vagrantc: well, I'm doing some other stuff at the same time so if you're going to commit something else, just go ahead.
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| 10:50 | <evilx_> I cant figure out why it getting these bad file descriptor
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| 10:51 | and why it shows nbi.img when it should show i386.img
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| 10:51 | for the nbdroot
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| 10:52 | <vagrantc> stgraber: alright, i'll commit the gawk-ism fix and a couple other things
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| 10:53 | stgraber: pushing the changes i have ready now ...
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| 10:54 | was also hoping to kill off http://bugs.debian.org/483760 (the hostname generation thingy)
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| 10:56 | <evilx_> can someone explain to my why nfbserver says assiend file i386.img but the pxe says rootserver: 192.168.1.245 rootpath: /opt/ltsp/i386 filename : ltsp/i386/nbi.img
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| 10:58 | <evilx_> http://evilx.devel.ws/pxe.JPG
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> evilx_: that's normal, the pxe filename is used for loading the initramfs, while the nbd filename is the virtual client hard disk. Different filenames, both are used.
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| 10:59 | <alkisg> What's your actual problem, other than the "bad descriptor" warning? (which I also get and everything else works fine:?)
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| 10:59 | <evilx_> dont know
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| 10:59 | x boots up but it wont login
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> What's the error message?
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| 11:00 | If you try to login, I mean
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| 11:00 | <evilx_> times out
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> ...from the console :)
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| 11:00 | ssh -l yourusername server
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| 11:00 | <evilx_> YEAH
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| 11:00 | i know this
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| 11:00 | but i shouldnt need to do that
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> I know, it's just for troubleshooting
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| 11:01 | <evilx_> i also switched the root password and rebuild the image
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| 11:01 | wont let me login with root
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> You should also unlock the root account
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| 11:01 | <evilx_> says your account has expired
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd -u root
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| 11:01 | or something like that
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| 11:02 | <evilx_> i did that
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> You did passwd -u?
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| 11:02 | <evilx_> then says Your account has expired; please contact your system admin\r\n\\n Authentication failure
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> Or just passwd?
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| 11:02 | <evilx_> ill retry
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| 11:02 | dont think i added the -u
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| 11:03 | ok it unlocked now
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| 11:03 | rebuilding the image
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| 11:05 | <evilx_> ok
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| 11:05 | that works now
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| 11:06 | <alkisg> You mean you can login from the GUI, or from the console?
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| 11:06 | <evilx_> once again it works if i ssh in
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| 11:06 | but i cant ssh 40 machines in all the time like that i need it to not do that
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| 11:06 | <alkisg> OK, what message does it give when you ssh?
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| 11:07 | <evilx_> nothing
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| 11:07 | plus you cant do -l
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| 11:07 | just doing ssh user@ip and type in the password
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| 11:07 | then go back to F7 window and login and it goes fine
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> OK... but it doesn't even echo a hint or a warning?
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| 11:07 | <evilx_> no warning no thing
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| 11:07 | \whaty hint
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| 11:08 | <alkisg> Like, "added the key for the server ..."
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| 11:08 | <evilx_> it said that
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| 11:08 | i think
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| 11:08 | hold on
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| 11:08 | <alkisg> It shouldn't say that
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| 11:08 | <evilx_> i think it went straight to password
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| 11:08 | nah nothing about the key
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| 11:08 | that was fine
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| 11:08 | <alkisg> It only shows that the first time, you have to reboot to see it
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| 11:09 | (the client)
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| 11:09 | Or press Shift+Page Up
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| 11:11 | <evilx_> i just rebooted it
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| 11:11 | sweet it verifed this time
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| 11:12 | <alkisg> You mean straight from the gui, no console?
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| 11:12 | <evilx_> it working now for some reason
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| 11:12 | now time to add all these users accounts
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| 11:12 | <alkisg> OK... try a different client then
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| 11:12 | <evilx_> and see if i can get it to run 40 thin clients
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> You may add 40 accounts with a script, and use autologin if all you need is testing
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| 11:14 | <evilx_> cant do auto login
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| 11:25 | <Gadi> vagrantc: u are missing a question mark in your awk fix
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| 11:26 | <vagrantc> Gadi: ??
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| 11:26 | <Gadi> you have: env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 11:26 | you need: env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}'
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| 11:26 | otherwise you don't catch X_OPTION_01
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> Gadi: egads, you're right!
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| 11:28 | when will my mistakes end?!
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| 11:28 | * vagrantc smiles | |
| 11:28 | <Gadi> "Gadi" not "egads"
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| 11:28 | :)
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| 11:28 | u and ur typos
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| 11:29 | <vagrantc> i get all gung-ho to clean up Gadi's code and make a fool of myself for being sloppy :)
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| 11:29 | * Gadi hands vagrantc the membership card to the exclusive club of slobs | |
| 11:30 | <vagrantc> if [ -n "$(env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}')" ]; then
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| 11:30 | that look good?
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| 11:30 | <evilx_> hmm is there away to install x11vnc on the client?
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| 11:30 | <Gadi> still no qu mark
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| 11:30 | <vagrantc> no!
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| 11:30 | <vagrantc> the answer is NO!
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| 11:30 | if [ -n "$(env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}')" ]; then
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| 11:30 | how about that?
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| 11:30 | * vagrantc sneaks in an easter egg | |
| 11:31 | <vagrantc> pushing
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| 11:32 | <alkisg> evilx_: have a look at italc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
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| 11:33 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'm messing around with you hostname setting FOO
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| 11:33 | echo "10.2.2.100.255.255.255.0" | mawk -F "." '{ print "ltsp"(($1%(256-$5)*256+$2%(256-$6))*256+$3%(256-$7))*256+$4%(256-$8) }'
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| 11:34 | it starts spitting out really weird results with unusual netmasks
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| 11:35 | well, just very long numbers
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> vagrantc, gimme an example...
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| 11:35 | <vagrantc> echo "10.2.2.200.255.0.0.0" | mawk -F "." '{ print "ltsp"(($1%(256-$5)*256+$2%(256-$6))*256+$3%(256-$7))*256+$4%(256-$8) }'
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| 11:35 | i haven't tried with the initramfs's awk yet ...
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> Yeap, you have 255*255*255 different clients with that netmask...
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| 11:36 | brb
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| 11:36 | <vagrantc> ah, so it's simply the number of clients in the given network, uniquely assigned?
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> yeap
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| 11:37 | <vagrantc> and the number is predictable?
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| 11:38 | <alkisg> Sure, the lowest IP is ltsp0, the next ltsp1, the next ltsp2 etc
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| 11:39 | So in a simple example, 192.168.192.101/24 gives ltsp101
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| 11:40 | While 192.168.10.101/16 gives ltsp(256*10 + 101)
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| 11:41 | <evilx_> where can i find the x11vnc script for the client machien?
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| 12:24 | <stgraber> vagrantc: any other change you may want to push to ltsp-trunk before tagging ?
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| 12:25 | <vagrantc> stgraber: i've basically got a script to fix 483760 ...
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| 12:26 | only thing i need to know is if ":"s are acceptible in hostnames
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| 12:33 | <vagrantc> stgraber: hrm. maybe i don't have it working...
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| 12:40 | ah, forgot to chmod +x the script ...
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| 12:41 | <evilx_> here something strange, i have one thin client that error on xorg, says unable to locate/open config file, but these newer thin clients work fine
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| 12:42 | where is it loading the config at?
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| 12:45 | <vagrantc> stgraber: got it working! will push...
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> vagrantc: can we have a glimpse?
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| 12:48 | <evilx_> alkisg: question, how come when I modify lts.conf for that mac it never created a new thing in pxelinux.cfg for that mac?
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| 12:49 | <alkisg> evilx_: huh? could you rephrase that? English in not my native language... Nothing gets autocreated in pxelinux.cfg/...
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| 12:50 | <evilx_> ok, I am specifying one machine in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf with [mac.adddress] but it doesnt change nothing it seem, it seem like it keep doing default for that one mac
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> You could try logging into the client, and running: getltscfg X_MODE_0 or whatever else you've set
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| 12:51 | <evilx_> ok
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| 12:51 | <ltsppbot> "vagrantc" pasted "unique hostnames from initramfs" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/152
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| 12:52 | <vagrantc> that took way to long to get right
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| 12:52 | alkisg: and you did 95% of the heavy work on that!
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| 12:52 | <evilx_> so it does set it
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| 12:52 | ok
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> vagrantc, shouldn't either of them be the default?
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| 12:54 | <vagrantc> alkisg: hmmm... maybe so, huh.
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> I can't think of any reason why "ltsp" would be better than either of them...
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| 12:54 | <vagrantc> probably the ip one
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| 12:54 | as mac addresses just look too ugly
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> Whatever, my opinion is biased, I can't say! :)
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| 12:55 | But with the default dhcpd.conf, the hostnames would be ltsp123, which looks fine! :P :D
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| 13:00 | <vagrantc> yeah. slight re-write, testing now...
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> So if ip is the default, one should set HOSTNAME_EXTRA="" to get the previous behaviour (=plain "ltsp"). Hmm... I don't think it's too bad.
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| 13:03 | <evilx_> here the issue, some reason there is no via driver in xorg
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> vagrantc, I think you could also use HOSTNAME="ltsp$mac" or HOSTNAME="ltsp$ip" with the latter being the default, to make it simpler and more extensible... And put a simple eval on the script to substitute $mac and/or $ip.
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| 13:06 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i don't see how that's more flexible than what's there now
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| 13:06 | makes it harder to set it to foo$mac
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| 13:07 | <alkisg> vagrantc: it only uses one variable, and it makes it possible to have names like 123ltsp or ltsp123departmenta
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| 13:07 | <ltsppbot> "vagrantc" pasted "updated unique-hostname stuff" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/153
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| 13:07 | <alkisg> (variable => lts.conf variable)
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| 13:07 | <vagrantc> alkisg: sure, i guess.
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| 13:08 | i'll push this, and we can improve upon it later.
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> vagrantc, I'm fine with that, so do whatever you like, I'm just suggesting... :)
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| 13:09 | <Gadi> why not just put HOSTNAME_BASE after getltscfg
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| 13:09 | and do: [ -z "$HOSTNAME_BASE" ] && HOSTNAME_BASE="ltsp"
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| 13:10 | <vagrantc> Gadi: it's about the same effect
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| 13:10 | <alkisg> Gadi: vagrantc has it better, it allows for null HOSTNAME_BASE
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| 13:11 | (i.e. one may want hostname="123")
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| 13:11 | <Gadi> how does what he pasted allow for null?
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| 13:11 | HOSTNAME_BASE="ltsp"
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| 13:11 | thats all I see
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| 13:11 | <vagrantc> Gadi: set HOSTNAME_BASE= in lts.conf ?
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| 13:11 | <alkisg> Well, if I specify HOSTNAME_BASE="" in lts.conf, I get null base
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| 13:12 | <Gadi> ah
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| 13:12 | gotcha
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| 13:12 | <vagrantc> presuming that works...
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> heh
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| 13:12 | <Gadi> that wont work, tho
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| 13:12 | getltscfg will ignore empty params
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| 13:12 | sorry, charlie
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| 13:12 | :)
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| 13:13 | <vagrantc> HOSTNAME_BASE="" works
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| 13:13 | <Gadi> u sure?
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| 13:13 | it shouldnt
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| 13:13 | <vagrantc> it just did
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| 13:13 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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| 13:14 | <vagrantc> since this script is run late in the process, i was able to do getltscfg from the NBD/NFS mount, and everything should go according to plan
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| 13:20 | stgraber: there's one more commit, though it would cause a regression for you ... being able to specify dhcpport=NNNN
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| 13:20 | stgraber: from initramfs-tools
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| 13:20 | er, from the boot prompt
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| 13:21 | stgraber: though i have patches to get it into initramfs-tools, which is really where that should be fixed:
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| 13:21 | stgraber: http://bugs.debian.org/509077
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| 13:55 | <evilx_> hmm i get cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devicdes
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| 13:55 | anyway to disable fb in ltsp.conf
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> The file /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf is part of ltsp-server-standalone, right? Why isn't a "better" dhcpd.conf provided, e.g. with option gpxe.priority 1, which would avoid some common problems?
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| 13:56 | <evilx_> isnt t here X_OPTION_XX soemthing
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> !lts.conf | evilx_
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| 13:56 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Error: "lts.conf" is not a valid command.
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 13:56 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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| 13:57 | <evilx_> thank you, ill look this over
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| 14:04 | the dock says there a via driver to, but I cant find it no where
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| 14:04 | doc*
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| 14:05 | that the issue I am having, ive tried openchrome,vga,vesa but no luck with this via chipset
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| 14:05 | and I cant find a via driver anywhere
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> alkisg: probably because nobody has proposed or demonstrated a better dhcpd.conf? :P
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| 14:05 | <evilx_> the video card is VT8623 [ Apollo CLE266 ]
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| 14:06 | <ltsppbot> "alkisg" pasted "A "stealthy" dhcpd.conf" (35 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/154
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> vagrantc: well, here's mine... I may try to propose a more general-purpose one, if anyone's interested
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| 14:07 | <evilx_> !via
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| 14:07 | <ltspbot> evilx_: Error: "via" is not a valid command.
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| 14:08 | <Gadi> Ryan52: how hard would it be for you to add a "--list" option to ldm-dialog?
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| 14:11 | evilx_: it uses openchrome
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| 14:11 | in newer ubuntu's
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| 14:12 | alkisg: you give etherboot clients a PXE image instead of nbi
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| 14:12 | and no nbi to be seen
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| 14:12 | surely, this is not general purpose
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| 14:12 | :)
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| 14:12 | I think Fedora has the most general purpose one atm
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| 14:13 | <alkisg> Gadi: yes, in Greece there aren't any real hw thin clients... :)
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| 14:13 | <Gadi> :)
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| 14:13 | <alkisg> But option gpxe.priority 1 does no harm
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| 14:13 | <evilx_> i tried openchrome and it didnt work
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| 14:14 | <Gadi> fair enough - personally, I had not even heard of that option before
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| 14:14 | evilx_: why not?
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| 14:14 | <evilx_> let me get the xorg file
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| 14:14 | <Gadi> the log file is more important
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| 14:14 | it tells you why it doesnt work
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| 14:14 | :)
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| 14:14 | <evilx_> that what i ment
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| 14:15 | hold on rebuilding the image
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| 14:15 | <Gadi> crap. I use zenity for too many things
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| 14:16 | <evilx_> hold on rebooting that machine now
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| 14:18 | it boots the ubuntu framebuffer thing and then it goes to xauth and does nothing, waiting for it to finish so I can grab the xorg log
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| 14:20 | <Gadi> evilx_: is it going through a KVM switch?
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| 14:20 | <evilx_> http://pastebin.com/m2bdc8d71
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| 14:20 | nah the thin client sitting 10ft away
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| 14:20 | and the server right here
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| 14:21 | and the other thin client works and so does my vmware netboot
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| 14:21 | just not that one with that via chipset
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| 14:21 | it just a black screen
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| 14:21 | I dont see why, and i dont see really an error in xorg log for openchrome
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| 14:21 | <Gadi> do you have any config file at all?
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| 14:22 | <evilx_> nah work fine on these other machiens
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| 14:22 | it just that via video chipset one that acting up
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> at the shell of the via client, do: X :10 -configure
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| 14:22 | then paste Xorg.10.log
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| 14:22 | <evilx_> ok
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| 14:24 | see it wont let me switch screens either once it does this
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| 14:24 | i found an old xorg config someone had on the old system
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| 14:24 | let me try that one
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| 14:24 | <Gadi> also try going into the BIOS and disabling ACPI and increasing the VGA apeture to >=32MB
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| 14:25 | <evilx_> ill look at that to
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> openchrome really doesnt like less than 32MB
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| 14:26 | <warren> Gadi: Fedora is general purpose?
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| 14:26 | <evilx_> just upped the vga memory
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| 14:26 | <Gadi> warren: not so?
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| 14:27 | <warren> what do you mean?
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| 14:27 | <Gadi> I mean I think you have the most comprehensive dhcpd.conf
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| 14:27 | what with all the etherboots and yaboots and whatnot
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| 14:28 | <evilx_> nah that didnt work, let me try this config
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| 14:30 | <warren> Gadi: I would add more if I had more hardware to test
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| 14:31 | <Gadi> warren: do you have gpxe options in there?
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| 14:37 | <evilx_> that didnt work either.
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> warren: could you please put the default fedora dhcpd.conf into pastebot? Gadi got me all curious... :)
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| 14:46 | <Ryan52> Gadi: which equivalent of zenity do you need? (it appears there are lots of options..)
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| 14:46 | <Gadi> hehe, yeah
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| 14:46 | I find I use --list, --text, a whole bunch
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| 14:46 | :(
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| 14:47 | stupid swiss army knife
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| 14:47 | I was going to systematically convert everything to ldm-dialog
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| 14:48 | but then I found things like: zenity --progress --text="Searching for server..." --pulsate --auto-c
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| 14:48 | lose
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| 14:48 | and
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| 14:48 | PICK_SERVERS=$(zenity --list --text="Choose an application s
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| 14:48 | erver:" --column="" --column="Server" --radiolist --print-column=ALL $CHOICES)
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| 14:49 | *sigh*
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| 14:51 | <alkisg> Gadi: wow, thanks for that!!!
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| 14:51 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 14:51 | sorry
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> ..and I was looking to convert all my scripts to pygtk... !
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| 14:52 | <warren> Gadi: no
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| 14:52 | Gadi: I have no gpxe capable hardware
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| 14:54 | <Ryan52> Gadi, ok, I guess I'll implement it...sometime in the next week or so..
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| 14:55 | <Gadi> Ryan52: great if you do, dont sweat it if not
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| 14:55 | I seem to use --entry, as well
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| 14:55 | <Ryan52> ok
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| 14:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey all
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| 14:56 | having a problem with F10
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| 14:57 | * warren wonders if ltsp-trunk is ready for tagging again? | |
| 14:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> I get to the user login screen on a client, type the username and password, then it says "no response from server, restarting"
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| 14:57 | I know the u/p are correct
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| 14:57 | what would cause this?
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| 14:57 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: check /var/log/secure on the server
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| 14:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> also, update-ssh-keys has been done
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| 14:57 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: is it actually a successful login?
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| 14:58 | <evilx_> how do i get it to not load x ?
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| 14:58 | i got it
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| 14:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: nothing in /var/log/secure
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| 14:59 | no attempts logged
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| 14:59 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: then it isn't even connecting to the ssh server
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| 15:00 | Gadi: how important are the post ltsp-5.1.43 changes?
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| 15:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: after "yum install ltsp-server" ssh does not start on boot?
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| 15:02 | <Gadi> warren: does fedora ship gawk or mawk?
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| 15:02 | <warren> Gadi: gawk, never heard of mawk.
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| 15:03 | <Gadi> then, they are not important
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| 15:03 | *very*
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| 15:03 | <stgraber> warren: I'll need to tag today too
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| 15:03 | warren: I'm having a look at ltsp-trunk now
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| 15:03 | <evilx_> i told it SCREEN_07=shell and it still booted x
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| 15:03 | <warren> I last built ltsp-5.1.42
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| 15:03 | how important are the .43 changes?
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| 15:03 | <jammcq> helloooooo
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| 15:04 | <warren> evilx_: what distro?
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| 15:04 | <evilx_> ubuntu
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| 15:04 | <warren> jammcq: hey, news says people in MI without power?
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| 15:04 | <stgraber> warren: do you have anything to commit or can I tag now ?
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| 15:04 | <warren> I'm afraid of commitment. =)
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| 15:04 | <jammcq> warren: yeah, lots of wind yesterday knocked out alot of power
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| 15:05 | <warren> stgraber: I'm doing a qiuck review of all changes
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| 15:06 | <stgraber> warren: ok
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| 15:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> jammcq: 65 mph at my parent's house in Jackson. It blew out a sliding door
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| 15:06 | <evilx_> rebuilding an image takes to long on a tricore
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| 15:06 | <jammcq> _UsUrPeR_: wow
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| 15:07 | somehow, I slept through it all
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| 15:07 | <warren> Gadi: these changes should work fine with gawk right?
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| 15:07 | <_UsUrPeR_> same here. I guess my wife was up every 10 minutes.
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| 15:07 | <warren> if [ -n "$(env|awk -F = '/^X_(DEVICE_)?OPTION_(0[1-9]|10)=/{print $2}')" ]; then
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| 15:07 | isn't the delimiter after -F supposed to be immediately after F?
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| 15:07 | or doens't matter
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| 15:09 | <Gadi> doesnt matter
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| 15:09 | should work fine
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| 15:09 | tested on gawk and mawk
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| 15:10 | <warren> ok, go ahead and tag if you want
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| 15:10 | stgraber: ^
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| 15:11 | <evilx_> was an error in on config
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| 15:11 | <evilx_> Gadi: X :10 -configure just gives a blank screen and that it
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| 15:12 | <Gadi> does it return to command prompt?
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| 15:12 | <evilx_> nio
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| 15:12 | no
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| 15:12 | <Gadi> sounds like you have a buggy bios
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| 15:12 | try setting:
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| 15:13 | X_OPTION_01 = "\"VBEModes\" \"true\""
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| 15:13 | <evilx_> ok, retesting this openchrome real quick and then ill do that
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| 15:13 | <Gadi> for that client
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| 15:13 | or, reboot the client to a shell and try to ddcprobe it
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| 15:14 | my guess is the BIOS is causing issues
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| 15:14 | (you may also want to upgrade the BIOS if possible)
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| 15:16 | <evilx_> having a hard time just finding the specs on hp.com website
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| 15:16 | testing this VBEMode right now
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| 15:18 | dang no go
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| 15:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, so after making sure the network settings were correct in F10, here is what I am seeing in /var/log/secure: "localhost sshd[2581]: Connection closed by 10.1.1.101"
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| 15:27 | 10.1.1.101 = client IP
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> stgraber, you scared all the people away... :P
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| 16:11 | <davidj> Gadi: You here?
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| 16:11 | * Gadi pinches himself | |
| 16:12 | * Gadi can hardly believe it himself | |
| 16:13 | <davidj> Gadi: How are you?
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| 16:13 | <Gadi> tanks Gott
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| 16:13 | and you?
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| 16:13 | hows your foot?
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| 16:13 | dancing yet?
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| 16:13 | <davidj> I'm doing very well, thank God.
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| 16:14 | Not quite, but my foot is healing very well.
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| 16:14 | <Gadi> thats good to hear
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| 16:14 | <davidj> The boot is off, and now I'm stretching and doing PT on my own.
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| 16:14 | * Gadi was thinking of you - what with all the ice | |
| 16:14 | <Gadi> ;)
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| 16:14 | <davidj> No ice here, it's 60F and sunny.
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| 16:14 | <Gadi> pfft
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| 16:15 | <davidj> A local radio station puts up an outdoor skating rink every winter, my wife took the kids earlier.
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| 16:16 | She just called to say that it's not as much fun at 60.
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| 16:16 | ;-)
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| 16:16 | I have a question that only you, of all of the thousands of people I know, might be able to answer.
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| 16:16 | <Gadi> uh oh
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| 16:16 | <davidj> It's entirely off topic, and not particularly interesting.
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| 16:17 | Just curious.
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| 16:17 | * Gadi puts on Jeopardy hat | |
| 16:17 | <Gadi> do I answer in the form of a question?
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| 16:17 | <davidj> Please, and in Greek.
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| 16:17 | <Gadi> uh oh
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| 16:17 | <davidj> I bought some vegetable stock yesterday.
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| 16:17 | * Gadi looks towards alkisg | |
| 16:17 | <Gadi> ;)
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| 16:18 | ok
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| 16:18 | <alkisg> Αγόρασε κανένας λαχανικά;
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| 16:18 | <davidj> After I left the store, I noticed that it had a "Parve" logo on it (looks like a backwards K, sort of).
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| 16:18 | <alkisg> :P
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| 16:18 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 16:18 | * Gadi takes herbology for 200 | |
| 16:18 | <Gadi> :)
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| 16:19 | <davidj> Alorase kanenas lakhanaika? What's THAT mean?
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| 16:19 | <Gadi> crap
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> I read something about vegetables above and I asked ... :P :D
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| 16:19 | <Gadi> I thought I would know the answer
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| 16:19 | but thats greek to me
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| 16:19 | :)
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| 16:19 | I know about the parve and backwards K, tho
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| 16:19 | :)
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| 16:20 | is your qu what it means?
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| 16:20 | <davidj> On the side, it said "This product produced on shared equipment that processes tree nuts, shellfish, dairy and pork"
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| 16:20 | I don't get it.
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| 16:20 | <Gadi> ah
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| 16:20 | well, thats a legal disclaimer
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| 16:21 | that they prolly have on all products
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| 16:21 | <davidj> Is this like whatsamadoddle's kosher bacon-wrapped scallops?
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| 16:21 | <Gadi> but, I can tell you for sure, it was not made on equipment with shellfish, dairy, or pork ;)
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| 16:21 | <davidj> heheheh
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| 16:21 | <Gadi> cannot account for the nuts
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| 16:21 | :D
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| 16:22 | <davidj> The "shared equipment" bit was in the alergy disclaimer section
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| 16:22 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 16:22 | all it takes is one lawsuit
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| 16:22 | ;)
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| 16:22 | <davidj> I told a friend about the scallops, now he makes a habit of asking butchers for the kosher pork chops.
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| 16:23 | <Gadi> lol
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| 16:23 | as long as the rabbi blesses it, right?
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| 16:24 | * Gadi regrets at times that nubae logs this channel | |
| 16:24 | <Gadi> *sigh*
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| 16:25 | <alkisg> He should have an <offtopic> tag that doesn't get logged...
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| 16:25 | <Gadi> we all should
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| 16:25 | along with an Easy button
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| 16:26 | <alkisg> The bot, I mean :)
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| 16:26 | <Gadi> and multiple things on the Clapper
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| 16:26 | oh
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| 16:26 | yeah... me too...
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| 16:26 | ;)
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| 16:32 | <davidj> Talk to you later...
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| 16:32 | <Gadi> ciao
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| 17:30 | <Ahmuck> heh, there is no such thing as kosher port chops
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| 17:52 | * stgraber is trying to build an openvz kernel on ia64 ... we have two of these itanium beasts around that only need a working openvz to be used :) | |
| 18:11 | <warren> stgraber: you tagging?
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| 18:15 | <stgraber> warren: yep
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| 18:18 | done
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| 18:45 | <stgraber> warren: do you happen to know what's the gcc version used to build the kernel currently in rhel5 ?
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| 18:53 | 4.2 failed to build RHEL's kernel (well a RHEL5-like kernel), trying with 4.1 now
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| 18:56 | <warren> stgraber: gcc version 4.1.2 20071124 (Red Hat 4.1.2-42)
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| 18:56 | stgraber: we skipped 4.2 and went straight to 4.3
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| 18:56 | stgraber: soon 4.4
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| 18:57 | <stgraber> good, I'm using 4.1.2 from Ubuntu and it seems to be building correctly
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| 18:57 | looks like openvz upstream only maintains the itanium support for the old 2.6.18 ...
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| 18:58 | will be a bit weird to run a 2.6.18 on hardy (which usually comes with 2.6.24) ... but well at least I'll have openvz working :)
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| 18:58 | <warren> why don't you use xen on the itanium?
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| 18:59 | <stgraber> openvz gives you way better performances usually as it's using the same kernel as the host (containing vs virtualisatioon)
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| 19:00 | <warren> stgraber: we have experimental containers with the standard upstream kernel using selinux for context isolation
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| 19:00 | <warren> it isn't a standard feature because it isn't a priority
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| 19:01 | <stgraber> oh, I'll need to look at that then
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| 19:01 | <warren> stgraber: nah, takes too much work
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| 19:01 | more of a future feature
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| 19:02 | stgraber: plus, the selinux support in ubuntu is a half-assed after thought
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| 19:02 | <stgraber> well, part of the context stuff is also going directly upstream, I saw that we have the cgroups thing that may be used for ressource allocation but haven't had a real look at that as it's really far from user-friendly :)
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| 19:03 | <warren> stgraber: selinux based containers require no further upstream stuff
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| 19:03 | it is only creative use of policies
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| 19:03 | <stgraber> sounds hackish :)
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| 19:06 | <petre> warren, ping
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| 19:07 | <warren> petre: pong
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| 19:07 | <petre> warren, http://peterscheie.fedorapeople.org/k12linux/quick-start-guide/k12linux-quick-start-guide-0.0.8-1.fc9.src.rpm
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| 19:08 | <warren> petre: my F10 system seems incapable of making a F9 livecd
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| 19:08 | petre: due to selinux differences
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| 19:08 | <petre> brb
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| 19:11 | <warren> petre: did you request the CVS module creation and begin importing your package
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| 19:12 | <petre> warren, I don't think so; it's been a few days & don't recall where I left off
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| 19:12 | I think that was the next step
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| 19:17 | warren, do I post the CVS request to the bugzilla case for the package?
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| 19:18 | <warren> petre: yes, the page describes exactly what to do
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| 19:19 | bbiab
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| 19:19 | <petre> yeah, I'm reading it, but it's a little vague about some things
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| 19:24 | warren, what's a 'FAS username'?
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| 19:30 | warren, nm
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| 19:55 | <stgraber> oh, I just noticed that these ia64 can actually run some x86 32bit code, fun :)
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| 20:29 | <warren> stgraber: incredibly poorly, but yes.
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| 20:31 | petre: you forgot to set the fedora-cvs flag to ?
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| 21:51 | <cib0> hello
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| 21:52 | does anyone know about a tutorial on how to get vnc get to work with ltsp?
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| 22:12 | <petre> warren, did you set the cvs-flag = ?
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| 22:45 | <alkisg> How can I use ltsp trunk in my laptop, for testing?
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| 22:48 | <Ryan52> you might be able to get away with: ./configure && make && make install
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| 22:48 | altho I usually just build packages out of it, and install them...what distro are you using?
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| 22:48 | <warren> Ryan52: configure make make install wont work for ltsp
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| 22:49 | <Ryan52> oh. that's why I said might :)
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| 22:50 | warren, why not?
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| 22:50 | I'd assume you could just do that on the host and in the chroot..
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| 22:50 | <alkisg> Ehm... could you start with the basics? I.e. branch the trunk locally?
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| 22:50 | :)
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| 22:51 | <Ryan52> alkisg, ya, but only if you tell me what distro you're on ;)
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| 22:51 | (the packagers keep it in separate repos)
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| 22:51 | <alkisg> Sure, Intrepid
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| 22:51 | <warren> Ryan52: ltsp-trunk lacks configure?
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| 22:51 | <Ryan52> heh. oh.
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| 22:57 | <johnny> ltsp-trunk is just scripts
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| 22:57 | copy server into /usr/share
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| 22:57 | /usr/share/ltsp
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| 22:57 | <alkisg> johnny: so bzr branch lp:~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk, two hardlinks and that's it?
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| 22:58 | <johnny> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/ltsp.git;a=blob_plain;f=net-misc/ltsp-client/ltsp-client-9999.ebuild;hb=HEAD
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| 22:58 | take a look at that
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| 22:58 | in src_install
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| 22:59 | <johnny> and read insinto as cd dir and doins as cp to that same dir
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| 22:59 | and dobin/dosbin as copying it into /usr/sbin or /usr/bin
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| 23:00 | <alkisg> johnny: thanks, digging...
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| 23:00 | <johnny> in src_compile.. that'll give you the idea of the two things that must be compiled
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| 23:00 | <Ryan52> alkisg, or, if you figure out where they keep their packaging...you can just check it out into debian, run "debuild", and then "dpkg -i" the produced ../*.deb...
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| 23:01 | <johnny> alkisg, if you just want trunk..
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| 23:02 | on ubuntu
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| 23:02 | check out stgraber's ppa
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| 23:02 | mine just gives a simpler overview of how the package is assembled .. simpler than deb package format anyways
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| 23:03 | <alkisg> Oh... anyway, I do want to see the inner details, so I might as well try all ways :)
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