IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 February 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:13 | <zamba> tftp doesn't work across subnets?
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| 05:31 | <HrdwrBoB> no
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| 08:00 | <zamba> HrdwrBoB: why not?
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| 08:06 | <zamba> HrdwrBoB: i just tested, it works fine
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| 12:11 | <Hyperbyte> Hey Alkis. :)
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> Hi Hyperbyte, hi all
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| 12:15 | <highvoltage> hey everyone
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| 12:15 | * alkisg just came back from the gates of Hades | |
| 12:15 | <alkisg> Literally, not figuratively :D
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| 12:16 | 7 hours hiking in Acheron river, a very good time
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| 12:16 | <Hyperbyte> Pics or it didn't happen!
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| 12:16 | =D
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> Heh :) Soon, I don't have the strength to do it now :D
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| 12:17 | <Hyperbyte> Hehehe, aawwwe
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| 12:17 | <alkisg> Andoid worked fine with offline maps though
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| 12:17 | <Hyperbyte> Wait - when did this happen?
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| 12:17 | Offline maps?
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| 12:17 | <alkisg> I saved them from google earth and saw them with a program called rmaps without online connection
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| 12:18 | <Hyperbyte> Oh, I thought they had finally made it as a basic feature.
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> Nah. But at least it's very easily doable
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| 12:18 | <Hyperbyte> =)
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| 12:18 | I dislike the compass in the HTC Desire
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> http://mobac.dnsalias.org/
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| 12:19 | <Hyperbyte> The compass doesn't function properly when you hold the phone upright (for me anyways)
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| 12:19 | It constantly switches directions, which is very annoying when you use it as a navigator.
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| 12:19 | * alkisg has the ZTE Blade, compass works fine there | |
| 12:19 | <Hyperbyte> Since I use it on a scooter (don't have a driving license for a car) it's upright for navigation
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> Ah. I didn't try holding it upright and using the compass
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| 12:20 | <Hyperbyte> Often it sends me in a completely wrong direction, because the compass thinks I'm coming from another way
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| 12:21 | Still need to find some way to disable the compass, if that's at all possible with maps.
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| 12:22 | <Hyperbyte> Oh well. So how was it? And how's the weather like? It's way too cold to go hiking in a river here. =)
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> It's the best weather for hiking, not too warm, not too cold. Great company so we had a very good time.
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| 12:25 | <Hyperbyte> Awesome. =)
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| 12:26 | <vagrantc> mmmm. hiking
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| 13:00 | <jhutchins> Is there any organized effort underway to get the currently available documentation to agree with the currently available packages and features, or even with itself?
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> More specifically?
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| 13:02 | What do you mean "available packages"?
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| 13:21 | <zamba> is it possible to boot ltsp over http instead of tftp?
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| 13:22 | tftp over wan took forever
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> zamba: only the kernel is loaded with tftp
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| 13:22 | The rest is NBD
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| 13:22 | What's your connection speed?
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| 13:23 | <zamba> measured to around 3 mbps
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> That's extremely low for LTSP
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| 13:23 | <zamba> it's over a udp tunnel
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> Better try nx instead
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| 13:24 | <zamba> i'm just going to test it, not use it
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| 13:24 | testing the gconf stuff
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> I think the gconf stuff can also be tested with nx
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| 13:24 | <zamba> nono.. the real users are connected with LAN
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> Yup, I remember you setup, I think
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| 13:24 | <zamba> alkisg: how do i set up nx then?
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| 13:25 | <alkisg> In your server, `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:freenx-team && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install neatx-server`
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| 13:25 | In your client, download the nx client from the nomachine site
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| 13:26 | <vagrantc> jhutchins: as people report missing documentation, or issues, it gets fixed.
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| 13:26 | <zamba> alkisg: let's try :)
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| 13:29 | <zamba> alkisg: and how do i launch a tc session with nx?
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| 13:30 | hm.. "Reached the maximum number of allowed users on this server"
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> Erm what says that?
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| 13:31 | <zamba> the nx client when i try connecting to the host
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| 13:32 | http://pastebin.com/LLVd12v6
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> The neatx-server doesn't have a limit
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| 13:33 | <zamba> that's the one i've installed
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| 13:34 | oh, hold on.. maybe i've already tested nxserver
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| 13:37 | no init.d-script to start it?
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> neatx-server is completely automatic
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| 13:37 | You just need to apt-get install it, no more worries
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| 13:37 | <zamba> oh
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| 13:37 | let's try
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| 13:38 | heh
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| 13:39 | why am i not surprised:
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| 13:39 | http://pastebin.com/vKTNk2Rz
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| 13:39 | stuff NEVER works for me
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| 13:39 | it's like an addition to murphy's law specifically for me
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| 13:39 | "stuff that works for everyone else, fails for you without reason"
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| 13:40 | <alkisg> What are you running to see that output?!
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| 13:40 | The command I run is /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
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| 13:40 | And it doesn't have such output
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| 13:41 | <zamba> if i click detail after it has failed
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Ah
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| 13:42 | <zamba> *sigh*
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> Maybe something from your nxserver installation messes with neatx-server
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| 13:42 | Wrong keys or whatever
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| 13:43 | <zamba> could be
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| 13:43 | but i tried purging everything
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> Are you seated on a thin client now?
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| 13:44 | <zamba> nope
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| 13:44 | i'm miles and miles away from the site :)
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> And for "Desktop" you have "Unix, GNOME"?
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| 13:45 | <zamba> yup
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> Also check your ~/.xsession-errors
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| 13:45 | Or the other logs on your server
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| 13:46 | Like daemon.log etc
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| 13:47 | <zamba> looking at syslog now
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| 13:47 | tailing it
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| 13:48 | http://pastebin.com/yUR0PCUM
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| 13:48 | looks like it's nagging about a missing font
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| 13:49 | *googling*
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| 15:53 | <zamba> alkisg: any ideas?
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| 15:54 | alkisg: about nx and why it won't work for me
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> zamba: wrong settings by previous nxserver installation?
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| 15:56 | <zamba> alkisg: which files are common between them?
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| 15:56 | alkisg: i've tried purging what i can
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| 15:56 | <alkisg> No idea, I'd have to check manually
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| 15:56 | Did you find out anything about the fixed font problem?
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| 15:56 | <zamba> i'm so tired of banging my head against problems that noone else has
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| 15:57 | nope
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| 15:57 | just a few unanswered forum posts
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> Try testing on VM servers before deploying on production servers
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| 15:57 | With a VM it's easy to roll back and retry
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| 15:57 | <zamba> it looks like the problem with the default font is what leads to the session not starting
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| 15:58 | Feb 20 22:54:50 thinny nxnode[5104]: DEBUG daemon:461 /usr/bin/nxagent[5109] stderr: Error: Aborting session with 'Could not open default font 'fixed''.
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| 15:58 | Feb 20 22:54:50 thinny nxnode[5104]: ERROR agent:376 Agent error: Aborting session with 'Could not open default font 'fixed''.
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| 15:58 | Feb 20 22:54:50 thinny nxnode[5104]: DEBUG daemon:461 /usr/bin/nxagent[5109] stderr: Session: Aborting session at 'Sun Feb 20 22:54:50 2011'.
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| 20:41 | <nothingman> hi, all
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