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02:24 | <Pascal_1> hello
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07:40 | <bopols> how do i check if atftpd is running?
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07:46 | <yanu> grep ftp /etc/inetd.conf
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07:46 | <bopols> tnx
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07:46 | <yanu> euch, tftp isn' t running
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07:47 | inetd is listening on if there are connections for tftp and if there are, it starts atftpd
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07:47 | something like that, anyway :)
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07:48 | <bopols> if there isn't then it won't start?
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07:48 | when i do nmap, port 69 is not open.
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07:48 | <yanu> if grep give you nothing, than it wont start
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07:48 | <bopols> grep does give me something
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07:49 | tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --mcast-port 1758 --mcast-addr 239.239.239.0-255 --mcast-ttl 1 --maxthread 100 --verbose=7 /tftpboot
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07:49 | <yanu> so it is listening
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07:50 | but you won't see it with nmap, i think
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07:51 | <bopols> ps ax | grep ftp gives nothing also.
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07:52 | <yanu> no, it isn't running as a deamon, that's why you see nothing
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07:52 | <bopols> i see
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07:52 | <yanu> inetd is listening for it, if someone knocks, then the service starts
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07:53 | <bopols> so then, tftp shows up only when a workstation requests a boot.
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07:53 | i get it now
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07:53 | <yanu> ya
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07:53 | <bopols> is that why inetd is called a super server or something.
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07:53 | ?
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07:53 | <yanu> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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07:54 | maybe
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07:54 | <bopols> he he he
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07:55 | let me try booting the workstation
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08:05 | <bopols> am getting tftp open time out error
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08:06 | then i saw that my server/firewall is rejecting the connection
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08:06 | <yanu> is your dhcp-server configured ?
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08:07 | <bopols> tweaked shorewall and everything is fine
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08:07 | tnx yanu.
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08:07 | <yanu> no problem
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08:07 | <bopols> by confirming the behavior of tftpd i was able to look at a different angle.
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08:07 | :)
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08:08 | <yanu> nice
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08:20 | <Pascal_1> hello
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08:28 | <Pascal_1> i'm trying to install lstp5, everything seems to work except at the boot of the client when he try to "nfsmount" i've got this message "nfsmount : need a path" and he "reboot"
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08:28 | anybody couldhelp me
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08:29 | <yanu> i had it to, cause : wrong ipnr because i ran 2 dhcp-servers
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08:29 | so i 'killed' one
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08:30 | don't know why, but at boottime, the right dhcp-server gave the right ipnr, but when booting the kernel, then somewhere in between the client got a ipnr from the other dhcpserver
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08:31 | then nfs went wrong ...
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08:32 | <Pascal_1> i've got only one dhcp server
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08:32 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: grep root-path /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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08:32 | <yanu> is nfs running and configered?
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08:33 | ps aux | grep nfs
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08:33 | cat /etc/exports | grep ltsp
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08:35 | <Pascal_1> yes and it works i cxan mount from another client
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08:35 | <Gadi> grep root-path /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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08:36 | <Pascal_1> i 've to tell you that the server ltsp is on a machine and the server dhcp-tftp is on another machien
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08:37 | option root-path "192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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08:37 | <Gadi> is the dhcp a windows or linux machine?
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08:37 | <Pascal_1> linux
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08:37 | <Gadi> is the above the correct IP for the nfs server?
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08:37 | <Pascal_1> it was not now yes ;-)
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08:37 | <Gadi> there you go
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08:38 | restarrt the dhcp server
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08:38 | and reboot the client
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08:38 | <yanu> Pascal_1: y're from?
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08:38 | <Pascal_1> yanu ??
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08:38 | <yanu> where are you from?
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08:39 | <Pascal_1> france
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08:39 | i know my english is not so good
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08:39 | Gadi, i already do that
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08:39 | i can paste the different config file
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08:39 | <yanu> no i tought belgium, because you typed 'machien' ;)
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08:42 | <Pascal_1> Gadi, any idea ?
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08:42 | <Gadi> 1 sec
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08:47 | <yanu> filename "ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; next-server 192.168.88.2; option tftp-server-name "192.168.88.2"; option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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08:54 | <Pascal_1> yanu my configuration is different i use 2 machine
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08:54 | <yanu> uhu, so change what's needed
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08:56 | <Pascal_1> that what i done
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08:57 | what is the address for paste
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08:57 | !paste
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08:57 | <ltspbot`> Pascal_1: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.
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08:57 | <Pascal_1> arf
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08:58 | <yanu> hmm, it is not in the topic
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08:58 | <Pascal_1> here is a piece of my dhcpd.conf : http://www.pastebin.ca/892538
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08:58 | <yanu> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/
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08:59 | <ltsppbot> "Pascal_1" pasted "a piece of my dhcpd.conf" (11 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/440
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08:59 | <yanu> next-server must also be : 192.168.39.199
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08:59 | <Pascal_1> no
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08:59 | next-server is the address of the tftp server
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08:59 | hmmm i'm not sure
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09:00 | <yanu> ach, tftp-server is not the same as the ltsp-server?
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09:00 | <Pascal_1> no
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09:00 | <yanu> don't know if next-server is for tftp?
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09:01 | <Pascal_1> i saw omewhere that the new version of ltsp (5), didnt like this notaion : option root-path "192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386"; is it true ?
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09:02 | <yanu> could be, early version did it that way (root-path "192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386";), i also see it's 'root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";' now
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09:02 | <yanu> #
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09:02 | dhcpd/(if)/next-server and dhcpd/(if)/filename
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09:02 | These are used for PXE booting, and you should know what they do if you're trying to set up PXE.
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09:03 | so next-server is for pxe-booting!
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09:03 | <Pascal_1> yes
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09:03 | i'm using pxe booting
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09:05 | <ltsppbot> "pascal_1" pasted "my config on 2 different machines" (111 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/441
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09:05 | <Pascal_1> here is the configuration on the 2 machines
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09:06 | anybody could help me ?
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09:07 | <tornio> Is there anyone who would be willing to help this problem I'm having with ltsp? It's about tft. The client machine gives an error message: PXE-T01: File not found.
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09:07 | <yanu> in man dhcpd.conf i see this : server-name "booting-server-nome";
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09:10 | <Pascal_1> yes ?
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09:10 | <yanu> Pascal_1: maybe add server-name "192.168.151.199"; ?
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09:12 | Pascal_1: you get the ipnr and the kernel from 192.168.151.247, and then once booted you want to connect to the 192.168.151.199-machine via nfs
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09:12 | <tornio> But is there someone who could help me? Could there be an error with this line: filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0" I've checked that pexelinux.0 is in place but the client machine doesn't receive it.
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09:13 | <yanu> tornio: you need to drop '/tftpboot/' from 'filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0"'
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09:13 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: try commenting out the rootpath line, restart dhcp, and add nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386 to the pxelinux.cfg/default file as a kernel argument
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09:13 | <Pascal_1> oups yanu the first machine got 2 nic one on the 192.168.151.0 network and one on the 192.168.39.0 network
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09:14 | <Gadi> tornio: try deleting the /tftpboot
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09:14 | and restart dhcpd
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09:14 | <tornio> Thanks!
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09:14 | That solved the problem.
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09:15 | It's funny that ltspadmin created a faulty configuration file.
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09:15 | <yanu> with ltsp-5 you don't need ltspadmin anymore ?
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09:16 | <Gadi> yanu: correct
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09:16 | ltspadmin was for < 4.2
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09:16 | <=4.2
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09:16 | :)
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09:16 | <Pascal_1> Gadi, now my default file looks like that : LABEL Test_LTSP
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09:16 | MENU LABEL Test_LTSP
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09:16 | kernel vmlinuz
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09:16 | append initrd=ltsp/initrd.img
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09:16 | root=/dev/nfs
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09:16 | nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386
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09:16 | ip=dhcp
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09:16 | right ?
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09:17 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: here's the deal:
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09:17 | I am pretty sure you can either pass the root path as: option root-path in dhcpd or as a kernel argument (nfsroot)
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09:18 | <drcode> hi all
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09:18 | <Gadi> the former will be preferred to the latter
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09:18 | <drcode> is there ltsp 5.0 pkg for mandrive 2007?
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09:18 | <drcode> or I need to build it from source?
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09:18 | <Gadi> if you have 2 nics in your client, then that is the problem
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09:18 | you should disable one client NIC
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09:18 | <drcode> hi Gadi
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09:18 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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09:19 | <Gadi> drcode: hi, there. can you really cure the common code?
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09:19 | !s
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09:19 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:19 | <sbalneav> Morning gadi!
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09:19 | <drcode> Gadi:Is there rpm of ltsp under mandrive 2007?
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09:19 | <Pascal_1> no i've no 2 nic on the client, that is my dhcp server wich have 2 nics
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09:19 | <Gadi> sbalneav: ldm is on my hit-list - be afraid...
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09:19 | <sbalneav> For what?
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09:20 | <Gadi> a bunch of lil patches
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09:20 | be afraid, as C is not my srongest suit
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09:20 | :)
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09:20 | drcode: dunno
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09:20 | <sbalneav> I've been busy for the last 2.5 months, so I'm a bit behind.
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09:20 | <Gadi> sbalneav: Ive noticed
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09:20 | <sbalneav> I have to check out the latest branch, see what needs to be done.
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09:20 | <Gadi> in fact, everyone notices when ur away
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09:21 | :)
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09:21 | <sbalneav> Duty calls. :)
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09:21 | <Gadi> figured you might be in ur shack with a shotgun
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09:21 | glad to hear it was just duty
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09:21 | <Q-FUNK> .s
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09:21 | !s
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09:21 | <ltspbot`> Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:21 | <sbalneav> I put a lot of things on hold to get Gutsy out the door. Deadlines were getting due :)
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09:22 | <Gadi> good thing we dont pay you :P
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09:22 | <sbalneav> hey Q-FUNK
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09:22 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: glad to have you back. is everything alright?
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09:22 | <sbalneav> Sure, just busy as heck.
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09:22 | <Pascal_1> gadi ?
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09:22 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: yes...
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09:22 | <Pascal_1> i dont understand what is the problem
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09:23 | have you seen my paste about my configuration ?
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09:23 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: a few qus: do you have 2 NICs in the client?
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09:23 | * sbalneav goes to look see what branch he should bzr get to bet back into the swing of it. | |
09:23 | <Pascal_1> Gadi, no
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09:23 | <Gadi> sbalneav: ltsp-upstream
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09:23 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: Gadi's pal bartman has been doing a LOT of work on the -amd driver and ended up having to patch X core too. we've been having fun with the hardware, even since.
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09:23 | <drcode> any idea?
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09:24 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: so, there are 2 places to specify the root-path: dhcpd.conf or as a kernel argument
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09:24 | with dhcpd.conf preferred
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09:24 | <Pascal_1> that what i do but it doesnt works
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09:24 | <Gadi> so, if that is not working for you, try the other, but comment out the first
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09:25 | <Pascal_1> i try the 2
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09:25 | <Gadi> same error?
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09:25 | <Pascal_1> yes
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09:25 | <Pascal_1> nfs is working because when i try to mount /opt/ltsp from another pc it works
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09:25 | <Gadi> all of those lines after 'append' are really on the append line, right?
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09:25 | <Pascal_1> it looks like the thin client doesnt talk to the ltsp server
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09:26 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: Yeah, I've been reading the bug reports. Looks good
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09:26 | <Pascal_1> Gadi, you speak about my "default" file ?
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09:26 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: yes
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09:26 | <Pascal_1> then yes all those line are in
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09:27 | <Q-FUNK> sbalneav: I'm still wondering whether I have installed everything I need on my laptop to produce test packages and upload to my PPA. if I did, I might be able to pull this off tonight.
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09:27 | <Pascal_1> i dont really know why i put those lines i zsaw that on the net
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09:28 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: in ur paste, they are on different lines
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09:28 | they should all be on the append line
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09:28 | <cliebow_> Gadi Rocks!
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09:28 | <Gadi> append initrd=ltsp/initrd.img root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp
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09:28 | like that
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09:29 | ('append' is a grub command, the rest are arguments to the kernel)
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09:29 | <Pascal_1> arok i make the correction i tell you
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09:30 | i have to go, can i ask you tomorow ??
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09:30 | any way thank you for your help
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09:31 | <Gadi> ask anytime
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09:31 | <Pascal_1> i make the correction it doesnt works
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09:31 | snirf :-(
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09:32 | the line nfsroot is also on the same line than append ?
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09:41 | <mighty-d> Hi
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09:43 | <cliebow_> ho
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09:59 | <Mighty-D> Hi, im trying to set ltsp 5.0 using the tarballs, which file should i use as kernel img to be served on dhcpd for a pxe client?
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10:03 | <cliebow_> if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
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10:03 | filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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10:03 | }
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10:03 | that help any?
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10:04 | <Mighty-D> yeah, thats what i had, thanks, but i just noticed my pxelinux is empty and so does vmlinuz 2.6.18-4
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10:05 | <cliebow_> DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash in pxelinux.fg/default
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10:06 | vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-386
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10:06 | is the link i see..
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10:08 | <Mighty-D> thanks cliebow, i dont know why but the script update-kernel had created 0 Byte files.. i copied myself now and seems to be working, have to fix the root path on dhcpd
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10:10 | <cliebow_> great!
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10:15 | <Mighty-D> cliebow_, im getting nfsmount: need path error, my dhpd line is: option root-path "192.168.2.1:/opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386/"; what could be wrong ?
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10:16 | <Pascal_1> Gadi: i'm at home now but i would say to you that the root-path option in dhcpd.conf doenst works but the parameter in the default file nfsroot.... works
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10:17 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, where is nfsroot ?
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10:18 | <Pascal_1> in the default file
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10:18 | it was your question ?
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10:18 | <Mighty-D> default file?
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10:19 | <Pascal_1> in my pxe configuration
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10:19 | <cliebow_> Mighty-D, this is debian?
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10:19 | <Pascal_1> nfsroot=@ip:/opt/ltsp/i386
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10:20 | <Mighty-D> cliebow, yes, im using debian files
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10:21 | <cliebow_> just to be sure..in /etc/inetd.conf is there any line like nbdroot and 200
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10:21 | <joebaker> How do I change the boot splash on our thin clients from kubuntu to Edubuntu?
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10:21 | <Pascal_1> oups Mighty-D you didnt speak to me
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10:22 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, :)
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10:23 | Pascal_1, you are saying i have to append the nfsroot in the default file on pxelinux.cfg dir ?
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10:24 | cliebow_, i dont have nbdroot and 200 on inetd
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10:24 | <cliebow_> can you showmount -e on your server..see what you are sharing out?
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10:25 | <Mighty-D> /opt/ltsp 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
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10:25 | /opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
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10:26 | <cliebow_> seems ok..what is below /opt/ltsp??i386 or that debain thing?
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10:26 | <Mighty-D> cliebow_, what do you mean?
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10:27 | my tarball is uncompressed at /opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386
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10:27 | <cliebow_> do you have /opt/ltsp/i386..or /opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386
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10:27 | ahh
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10:28 | and server is 2.1
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10:28 | ?
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10:29 | <Mighty-D> yes :P
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10:29 | <Pascal_1> Mighty-D: it was about a problem i have
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10:30 | <Mighty-D> nfsmount says this: rootserver: 192.168.2.1 rootpath: 192.168.2.1:/opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386/
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10:30 | <Pascal_1> hmm do you have the same problem than me ??
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10:30 | <Mighty-D> then it says filename: /tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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10:31 | Pascal_1, i dont know, it sees nfs-premount its my problem, nfsmount : need a path
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10:32 | <Pascal_1> yes !!! it the sama problem
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10:32 | i solve it like i say before
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10:32 | ltsp5 ??
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10:32 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, yes
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10:32 | <Pascal_1> the option root-path seems not working in dhcpd.conf
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10:33 | then now it works if i put nfsroot=@ip:/opt/ltsp/i386.... in the default file of pxe
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10:33 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, ok, should i comment it?
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10:33 | <Pascal_1> in the append line
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10:34 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, ok, let me give it a try
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10:34 | <yanu> all on 1 line!
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10:34 | <Pascal_1> in the dhcpd.conf ?
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10:34 | yanu yes !!! ;-)
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10:34 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, yes, should i comment root-path ?
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10:34 | <Pascal_1> Mighty-D: yes
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10:35 | and you restart dhcp
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10:35 | <Mighty-D> ok
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10:35 | <Pascal_1> then you add nfsroot .... in the default line
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10:35 | all on 1 line
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10:35 | !!!
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10:35 | <ltspbot`> Pascal_1: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
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10:35 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: se la vie, as you say, no?
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10:35 | :)
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10:36 | <Pascal_1> gadi yanu you save me
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10:36 | Gadi: not se but c'est
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10:36 | c'est la vie !!
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10:37 | thank again Gadi , may be tomorrow i'll have other question
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10:37 | but it seems there is problem with option root-path since the ltsp5 version no ?
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10:37 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: ah
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10:37 | I knew I got it wrong
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10:39 | Pascal_1: remember that 1. it will be distro-specific issue (as it is up to the initramfs) 2. on ubuntu, at least, LTSP is really only intended to be used on one box
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10:39 | <Pascal_1> ok
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10:39 | <Gadi> and 3. ubuntu no longer uses nfs
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10:39 | :)
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10:39 | so, talk to vagrantc
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10:39 | :)
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10:39 | <Pascal_1> who is vagrants
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10:39 | <Gadi> (he maintains the debian ltsp5 implementation)
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10:39 | <Pascal_1> who is vagrantc ?
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10:40 | ok
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10:40 | <Gadi> and is *usually* here
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10:40 | <cliebow_> demiGod...DebiGod...
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10:40 | <Gadi> tho, not at the moment
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10:40 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, i dont know how to thank you...
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10:40 | <Pascal_1> any way thanks again for your help
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10:40 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: pleasure
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10:40 | wish my french were better
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10:40 | <Pascal_1> Mighty-D: pleasure ;-)
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10:40 | <cliebow_> Gadi ROCKS
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10:41 | * Gadi took Spanish in school | |
10:41 | <Pascal_1> Mighty-D: it works ?
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10:41 | Gadi: about ltsp my wish is to make works samba-ldap authentication, do you know it it's easily possible ??
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10:41 | <Mighty-D> yes, i have another issue, i now get the new authentication screen, but unable to log in... im thinking i need to set some permissions so x can be used on a network enviroment, could that be?
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10:42 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: look at the smbldap stuff
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10:42 | <Pascal_1> Mighty-D: i had the same problem than you but i've no time to test anymore, i'll test tomorrow. then if you want we could speak about it tomorrow when i'll be at works
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10:43 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: run ltsp-update-sshkeys on the ltsp server
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10:43 | <Pascal_1> Gadi: i've got already samba ldap authentication working for other client
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10:43 | <Mighty-D> Pascal_1, sure :)
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10:43 | Gadi, i already did
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10:43 | <Gadi> Pascal_1: ah - then you need only setup the auth on the server - there is a package I recently used in ubuntu....
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10:44 | auth-client-config
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10:44 | try that
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10:45 | Mighty-D: do you have sshd running and a desktop installed on the server?
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10:45 | <Mighty-D> yes im on the server right now
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10:45 | wait ill put this on a different init leve
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10:45 | l
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10:45 | brb
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10:45 | <Gadi> check the user's .xsession-errors file
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10:46 | <Pascal_1> i'll be back tomorrow have a good evening
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10:49 | <Mighty-D> Hi again, ok i switched to run level 4, now running kdm (i remember i had to modify kdm.conf on ltsp 4.2 in order to log in, is this still necessary?)
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10:49 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: ltsp5 does not use kdm
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10:49 | it uses its own local dm (ldm)
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10:50 | ldm is a frontend to: ssh -X ... user@server
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10:50 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, ok ... so what could be wrong, im not able to log in, maybe some sort of missconfiguration on ssh ?
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10:50 | <Gadi> check: auth.log on the server and the user's ~/.xsession-errors
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10:51 | <Mighty-D> btw, if i go into a shell on CONTROL + ALT + F1 i get an auth request, i can modify this by changing /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/shadow ?
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10:53 | <Gadi> do: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd
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10:54 | <Mighty-D> ok, gadi thanks
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11:49 | <cliebow_> Gadi:any way to handle a drive with type fd raid autodetect outsode of the raid?
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11:53 | <Gadi> cliebow_: you would need to add it to an array
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11:53 | what kind of raid dev is it?
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11:54 | <cliebow_> it was a redhat install with software raid
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11:55 | two drives raid1
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11:56 | <cliebow_> not a big deal..just a couple little scripts i could use if i had em...
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11:56 | <Gadi> cliebow_: make a new raid 1 array
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11:56 | with that drive
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11:56 | and mount it
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11:57 | the new raid device
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11:57 | just make a degraded raid1
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11:57 | <cliebow_> i ll give it a whirl
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11:57 | <Gadi> :)
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11:57 | <cliebow_> thank you..
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11:57 | <Gadi> dont add another blank drive
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11:57 | just add the one drive
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11:57 | <cliebow_> ok
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13:28 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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13:28 | sbalneav: ping
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13:30 | <Q-FUNK> pong is (tm) Atari Corp.
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13:43 | <Mighty-D> Hi again, im trying to log into the server, so far i have ldm screen and i get password accepted message on /var/log/messages, but unable to log in, can you help me please?
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13:46 | <cliebow_> Mighty-D, can you look at .xsession-errors?
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13:49 | <Mighty-D> cliebow_, i dont have anything on /home/$user/.xsession-errors
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13:56 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: is this redhat?
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13:56 | <cliebow_> Mighty-D, you do have a window manager right?
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13:56 | <knito> hi to everybody!
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13:57 | * cliebow_ cliebow also nods..with honors...sir! | |
13:57 | <jammcq> !seen sbalneav
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13:57 | <ltspbot`> jammcq: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 4 hours, 31 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: Yeah, I've been reading the bug reports. Looks good
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13:58 | <Mighty-D> no, im running slackrare 12
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13:58 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: does slackware have: /etc/X11/Xsession ?
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14:01 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, no, it has Xsession on kdm subdir
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14:01 | <johnny> that's prolly ltsp 4.x ?
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14:01 | <Mighty-D> cliebow, yes, im running kdm, however i havent touch the configuration file for it, since i dont know if i need to set it to support network connections.. or something
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14:02 | johnny, im running ltsp 5.0, using debian tarballs
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14:02 | <knito> I have a ltsp 4.2 installation over a Fedora 8 server working fine
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14:02 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: try symlinking that Xsession to /etc/X11/Xsession
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14:02 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, ok
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14:03 | <cliebow_> knito:yes...
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14:03 | <Mighty-D> Gadi i should restart kdm , right?
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14:03 | <Gadi> no
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14:03 | you arent using kdm
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14:03 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, ok
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14:03 | <knito> I have installed vnc-ltsp-config-4.0-3
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14:03 | but...
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14:03 | I can't access to my server via vnc
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14:04 | It seems that there is some kind of trouble betwen fedora 8 amd vnc
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14:04 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, no success...
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14:04 | <knito> anyone knows about it?
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14:04 | <cliebow_> knito:is vncserver running on server?..You should lok into nx
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14:05 | <knito> cliebow, it's configured to work via xinetd
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14:05 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, is there a way to troubleshoot this using thin client shell on tty 1 ?
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14:06 | <knito> cliebow, I've tryed with nx but in somewhere I read that only accepts 2 connections
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14:06 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: yeah, log in on the client and cat /var/log/ldm.log
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14:07 | knito: did you restart xinetd?
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14:07 | <knito> gadi, a lot of times
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14:07 | <Gadi> can you vnc from localhost?
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14:07 | <knito> It connects, but after 4 o 5 seconds, server disconects
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14:08 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, i get Error: Can't open display,
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14:08 | <cliebow_> knito:right..the free nomachine client only gives two connections..the freenx is well free
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14:09 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, is there any tweeking i should do to Xsession ?
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14:09 | <knito> I can't connect neither from localhost
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14:09 | I t says "reset by peer"
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14:10 | freenx accepts any connections?
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14:10 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: from another computer, run: ssh -X user@server /usr/bin/xterm
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14:10 | <Blinny> FreeNX rocks.
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14:11 | <knito> then, your advice is to stop loosing time with vnc, and learn how to make freenx work
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14:11 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, ok...
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14:11 | <knito> I will try it
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14:12 | <Gadi> knito: it sounds like ur display manager is not setup properly or your network settings are not
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14:13 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, i get /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: DISPLAY is not set
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14:14 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: check on the server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config that it allows X forwarding
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14:14 | if not, enable it, and restart ssh
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14:14 | <knito> Gadi, I've googled it, and there is some people complaining about Fedora 8 and VNC. All of then claims that server resets the connection after 4 or 5 seconds
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14:15 | But nobody says why it's happening, neither if someone solved it
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14:15 | <Gadi> knito: try running vncserver by hand and see what error you get when you connect
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14:16 | <knito> Gadi, that's a good one
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14:17 | <Gadi> 'by hand' meaning at a terminal
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14:17 | not through xinetd
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14:20 | <cesar_> hi
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14:21 | <cesar_> i get this message in client terminal
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14:21 | switching to multisession mode
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14:21 | and then stop
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14:22 | I search in the web for one solution
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14:22 | but not find response
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14:22 | for this problem
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14:23 | somebody can help me with this problem
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14:24 | hello!
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14:24 | <cesar_> hello
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14:24 | i get this message in client terminal
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14:24 | "switching to multisession mode"
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14:24 | and then stop
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14:24 | <Mighty-D> lol
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14:24 | <johnny> you already said that
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14:25 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, ok now i get: sorry is not a valid session
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14:25 | <cesar_> I search in the web for one solution
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14:25 | <johnny> cesar_, stop repeating yourself
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14:25 | <knito> Gadi, It works but it logs in a twm session
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14:25 | <cesar_> but not find response
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14:25 | ok
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14:25 | then
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14:25 | <johnny> that's bad netiquette
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14:25 | <Gadi> knito: pot ur /etc/xinetd.d/vnc
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14:25 | !pastebot
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14:25 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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14:26 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: sounds like ldminfod is not running/working
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14:26 | <cesar_> anybody can help me or not can help me?
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14:26 | <johnny> you might have to wait
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14:26 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, this is something related to Xsession, do you have one Xsession on hand ?
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14:26 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: not exacty, what happens when you try ssh -X ... xterm?
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14:27 | <cesar_> somebody understand my question?
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14:27 | <johnny> yes
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14:27 | <cesar_> ah
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14:27 | ok
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14:27 | <Gadi> cesar_: personally, I have no clue what you mean :)
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14:27 | <Mighty-D> Gadi it runned
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14:27 | <Gadi> what kind of thin client? what distro? what version of ltsp?
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14:27 | <Mighty-D> im looking at Xsession right now
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14:28 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: ok do you have a process called ldminfod on the server?
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14:28 | * johnny always wonders at slackware | |
14:28 | <Mighty-D> and it seems it is waitting for $1,
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14:28 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: also, what version of tarball did you use?
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14:28 | <Mighty-D> but $1 is NULL
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14:28 | i used the one on the web
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14:29 | <Gadi> not sure which is there
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14:29 | ok, try this:
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14:29 | rather than symlinking /etc/X11/Xsession
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14:29 | <Mighty-D> Mar 4, 2007
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14:29 | <Gadi> make a script called /etc/X11/Xsession
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14:30 | in the script, call the kdm's Xsession with the type of desktop as the argument
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14:30 | <warren> knito, what distro are you using?
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14:30 | <Gadi> (or no argument - there must be a default)
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14:30 | <cesar_> my server ltsp is in debian 64 bits
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14:30 | ltspcfg v0.16
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14:30 | <knito> warren, I'm using a Fedora 8
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14:30 | <Gadi> dont forget to chmod 755 your new /etc/X11/Xsession
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14:30 | <johnny> cesar_, that's not ltsp5 i bet
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14:30 | <warren> knito, are you using the latest upstream bzr? I'm getting real close to making it work on Fedora 8
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14:31 | it currently doesn't have the part to install a chroot working
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14:31 | <Gadi> warren: he's on ltsp 4.2
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14:31 | <warren> ooh
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14:31 | nevermind
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14:31 | knito, eharrison has an unreleased build of LTSP-4.2 on Fedora 8
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14:31 | <Gadi> evidently, he is having trouble running vnc out of xinetd
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14:32 | his question is not LTSP-related
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14:32 | <warren> knito, yum install vnc-ltsp-config
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14:32 | <cesar_> ltsp-4.2
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14:32 | <warren> Gadi, we have a package that does that out of the box
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14:32 | <Gadi> merely, how does one get vnc server running out of xinetd on FC8
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14:32 | warren: evidently it is broken
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14:32 | <knito> waren, I have installed vnc-ltsp-config
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14:33 | <cesar_> jhonny: the installed soft is ltsp-4.2 in the server
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14:33 | <warren> knito, ok, I'm looking at vnc-ltsp-config on F8 now...
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14:33 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, something like " exec /usr/bin/startkde " ?
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14:33 | <knito> Gadi, If I've installed vnc-LTSP-config... I
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14:34 | <warren> knito, did you do "chkconfig vncts on"?
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14:34 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: no - what did you symlink /etc/X11/Xsession to before?
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14:35 | <cesar_> i don't understand.... the terminal stop load when say "switching to multisession mode " and any more......
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14:35 | <knito> warren, yup, it's on
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14:35 | <Gadi> cesar_: try setting: XSERVER=vesa in your lts.conf
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14:35 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, to /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession
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14:35 | <cesar_> ok
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14:36 | <warren> knito, ok, you're right, it isn't working for me either. This might be a bug.
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14:36 | knito, hold, I'm trying to figure out what happened.
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14:36 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: so, make a script in /etc/X11/Xsession that just calls: exec /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession
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14:36 | <Gadi> and make it executable
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14:36 | <knito> warren, thankyou a lot!!! I'm not crazy!!!
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14:36 | <Gadi> (wiht a shabang /bin/sh at the top
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14:36 | :)
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14:36 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, ok
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14:36 | <knito> I've tryed everything
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14:37 | <warren> knito, in the future please file this kind of thing in fedora bugzilla
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14:37 | <cesar_> not work with vesa
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14:38 | <Gadi> cesar_: want to paste you lts.conf?
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14:38 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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14:38 | <Q-FUNK> !fembot
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14:38 | <ltspbot`> Q-FUNK: Error: "fembot" is not a valid command.
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14:38 | <Q-FUNK> dammit!
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14:38 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, that was fine!! :) , i just did: /usr/bin path/to/Xsession default :P
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14:39 | <cesar_> ok
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14:39 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: do you understand what was happening?
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14:39 | it might be good to
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14:39 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, yes
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14:39 | <Gadi> Xsession takes n argument for the session you want
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14:39 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, Xsession expected $1 to appear yes
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14:39 | <Gadi> ldm was passing it NULL
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14:39 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, thanks a lot
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14:40 | <Gadi> because it usually gets the argument from ldminfod
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14:40 | which you dont have
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14:40 | <knito> warren, I thought that been vnc-ltsp-config, in this irc, someone could know something
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14:41 | <warren> knito, only fedora has that of that name
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14:41 | knito, for a few years now
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14:41 | <cesar_> Gadi: http://pastebin.com/d537133e6
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14:41 | <warren> knito, nobody reported that it was broken
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14:41 | <warren> knito, it does seem to be broken
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14:41 | knito, trying to figure it out now...
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14:41 | <knito> warren, Ok, I will look there
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14:42 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, can i change the wallpaper on ldm ? is there any document on how to do it?, i dont want to abusse your kindness :P
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14:42 | <knito> Thankyou again
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14:42 | <Gadi> cesar_: is your xfs server running?
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14:42 | <cliebow__> good point
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14:42 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes
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14:42 | iirc
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14:43 | cesar_: try setting USE_XFS = N
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14:43 | <cesar_> ok
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14:43 | <cliebow__> knito:your question is no more off-topic than most....
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14:44 | <johnny> how do i build a bikeshed?
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14:44 | <johnny> that's more off topic than most :)
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14:44 | <Gadi> knito: warren 's brain is hardwired to fedora's bugzilla - he just doesnt like to be caught off guard :)
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14:44 | <warren> knito, if you file it in fedora bugzilla it wont get lost
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14:44 | <johnny> bugs are zilla
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14:45 | <cliebow__> johnny: this is the friendly place..where all your woes are relieved..8~)
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14:46 | <knito> Ok, Ok!!! I will!!! It will be useful for other people too
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14:46 | <johnny> so who wants to help me with it then? :)
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14:46 | lol
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14:46 | * johnny invites cliebow__ over | |
14:46 | <cliebow__> toolshed...or the garden?
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14:47 | <cesar_> Gadi: no, not working
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14:47 | <cliebow__> need yo know what to wear
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14:47 | <knito> ooops... It was solved on January 22 bug # 429792
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14:48 | <cliebow__> i learned something..
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14:48 | <Gadi> cesar_: is that your whole lts.conf?
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14:49 | <johnny> you could learn how to make a working coffeeshop/bookstore that has 14 owners actually stay open :)
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14:49 | err "owners"
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14:49 | <warren> knito, do you have a RH bugzilla account?
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14:49 | <cesar_> no
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14:49 | * johnny doesn't like seeing open bugs for his software packages on distro zilla | |
14:50 | <cliebow__> there is no way to learn that..
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14:50 | <Gadi> cesar_: if you log in at the shell on the thin client and do "hostname" does it say w002?
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14:50 | <knito> warren nope, but when you talked me about bugzilla, I made a search in it, founding that it was solved. Bug was # 429792
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14:50 | <johnny> cliebow__ why not?
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14:50 | <knito> I don't know, why it doesn't appear when I googled it... maybe was too fresh
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14:50 | <cliebow__> that is not how you make a living is it?
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14:51 | <cesar_> Gadi: the whole config is here http://pastebin.com/m36c937f
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14:51 | <cesar_> Gadi: when the client start load indentify the name of the client "w002"
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14:52 | <warren> knito, http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/vnc-ltsp-config/4.0/4.fc8/noarch/
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14:52 | <johnny> cliebow__, not living .. but i make some money :)
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14:52 | 3 years running
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14:53 | i run ltsp there :)
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14:53 | <knito> warren, I've fixed it and it works
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14:53 | <warren> knito, good to hear
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14:53 | <knito> warren, a path problem in vncts configuration
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14:54 | Thankyou a lot for all your answers!!!
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14:54 | <Gadi> cesar_: make a [default] section
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14:54 | <cliebow__> cool..
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14:55 | <cesar_> ok
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14:55 | <Gadi> with at least one parameter
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14:55 | say, SERVER
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14:55 | <Gadi> bbiab
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14:57 | <cesar_> Gadi: now pass but
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14:57 | Gadi: another problem
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14:58 | Gadi: with the next
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14:58 | Gadi : not found /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
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15:00 | when try build Xorg configurate on /etc/screen.d/xstart
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15:00 | <johnny> yours might be elsewhere..
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15:01 | <Gadi> cesar_: was there a problem with your ltsp 4.2 installation?
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15:02 | <cesar_> no, I think the declaration name
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15:02 | <cliebow__> cesar ltspcfg0.16 was way old..
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15:02 | <cesar_> in lts.conf
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15:02 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, now this is working i was thinking on setting up ldap for centralized authentication with a mail server im thinking to run on another box... how does ltsp behaves with ldap ?
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15:02 | <cliebow__> great!!!
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15:02 | <cesar_> sorry.. the name was brong
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15:03 | :-)
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15:03 | w002 wasn't correct name
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15:03 | ws002
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15:03 | <Gadi> Mighty-D: it uses the server's ssh authentication
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15:04 | as long as you can ssh into the box, ltsp works
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15:04 | <cesar_> I fell stupid
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15:06 | now the problem is what ltsp can't build Xorg configuration
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15:08 | <johnny> what is the best way to find a maintainer for a fedora package
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15:09 | <Mighty-D> Gadi, thanks
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15:10 | <Gadi> pleasure
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15:10 | bbiab
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15:11 | <cliebow__> Mighty-D, ldap rocks..
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15:12 | <Mighty-D> cliebow__, yes, but it can be a headache (specially when you have little experience messing with it) :P
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15:12 | <cliebow__> this is true...
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15:20 | <Mighty-D> cliebow__, which tools do you use to admin your ldap server ?, i saw ldapvi but i was wondering if there is something else?
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15:21 | <cliebow__> i wrote my own pretty much..i use ldapbrowser282 a lot though
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15:21 | mine is deep not flat..
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15:21 | so users are broken up by the school theyteach in and the year of graduation
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15:22 | i was told to emulate what was created in active directory
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15:23 | sbalneav wrote a fuse proggie called ldapfs which makes the directory into a filesystem..it is pretty cool..
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15:23 | guess i am heading out..see you later...
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15:24 | <stgraber> you can also use "luma" to manage your ldap server (I mainly use it to browse my ldap servers actually)
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15:24 | <cliebow__> stgraber:i'll look into it ..thanks
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15:31 | stgraber:that looks nice..i still like some ldapbrowser features..like verifying pw and such
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15:32 | whoops..just deleted password field 8~)
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15:32 | maybe reading the directions would help
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15:33 | later...
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15:37 | <Mighty-D> stgraber, yes luma its fine
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19:46 | <jammcq> !seen sbalneav
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19:46 | <ltspbot`> jammcq: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 10 hours, 20 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: Yeah, I've been reading the bug reports. Looks good
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19:46 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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