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Channel log from 5 January 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 12:45 | <Martin__> hi
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| 12:45 | is there anybody who speak spanish?
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| 12:47 | I installed Kiwi-ltsp and boot fine but i cant configure printers for different users
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| 12:48 | all of the thin client appear with the name "ws" and i couldnt find where to change it
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| 20:54 | <dgroos> Howdy again! I’ve got 5 of 6 classroom setups working—I messed up on the last server setup when getting to initial setup of ltsp-manager—clients can’t get past just looking for dhcp……
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| 20:56 | So I want to uninstall/reinstall ltsp-manager (tried re-running initial setup). I see: /usr/share/ltsp-manager/before-uninstall.sh and wonder if this is the uninstall script?
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| 20:58 | <alkisg> dgroos: this mostly un-does what initial-setup does
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| 20:58 | As debian packages are not allowed to do such things automatically
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| 20:59 | <dgroos> alkisg: OK
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| 21:00 | I’m thinking about trying the before-uninstall and then re-running initial setup?
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| 21:00 | <vagrantc> i think you do that from the ltsp-manager interface
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> dgroos: initial-setup is idemponent or however that is spelled
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| 21:00 | <vagrantc> i wouldn't recommend running it manually
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> So you can run it multiple times, either from the menu or the console, and it does the same thing each time
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| 21:00 | <vagrantc> idempotent
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| 21:01 | <alkisg> ty :D
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| 21:01 | <dgroos> hi vagrantc I didn’t see anything from the ltsp-manager interface, also online wiki
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| 21:01 | <alkisg> That also means that it doesn't matter if you uninstall/reinstall or just run it again, it's the same
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| 21:01 | initial setup is in the menu...
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| 21:02 | <dgroos> that really is a word!
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| 21:02 | :-:
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| 21:02 | * vagrantc wields the power of the "dict" command. | |
| 21:02 | <dgroos> oops!
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| 21:02 | <alkisg> Hehe
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| 21:02 | <dgroos> :-)
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| 21:03 | If I understand… I don’t need to uninstall/reinstall… reinstalling completely overwrites anything from previous?
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| 21:03 | <alkisg> Reinstalling does nothing realy
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| 21:03 | *really
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| 21:04 | Running initial-setup again is the key
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| 21:04 | <dgroos> ah… OK
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> If that doesn't do it, then it's not an ltsp-manager issue, it's something else
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| 21:05 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager/Initial_setup
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| 21:05 | <dgroos> OK. BTW, when I re-run initial-setup, it takes not time, returns nothing. For an experiment I deleted the dnsmasq file, then re-ran initial-setup and that time it said it was re-creating that file.
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| 21:05 | <alkisg> "If for some reason you decline, you can find it again in the Server → Initial setup menu. "
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| 21:05 | <dgroos> I’ll try now!
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| 21:06 | <alkisg> It just makes sure that everything is there. It doesn't delete/recreate things, but it does create them if they're missing.
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| 21:07 | <dgroos> How about if I delete the 4 conf files mentioned in the Server/Configuration Info/ menu, then re-run initial setup? Problematic?
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> It will recreate 2 of them
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| 21:09 | The others are created when e.g. you run ltsp-update-kernels/image
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| 21:09 | What is the exact issue? Error messages etc?
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| 21:10 | <dgroos> No error messages. When I try and boot a client, it doesn’t get past the DHCP…. stage.
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| 21:10 | When looking at the dnsmasq file I see these lines:
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| 21:10 | dhcp-range=10.17.0.0,proxy
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| 21:10 | dhcp-range=192.168.1.0,proxy
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| 21:11 | The first I expect, the second I’ve never seen before.
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| 21:11 | I was inspecting the Network-Manager panels during running the initial-setup.
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> dgroos: that means that you had IPs in those ranges while running initial-setup
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| 21:16 | Anyway, wanna vnc to fix it quickly?
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| 21:16 | !vnc-edide
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| 21:16 | <ltsp> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 21:16 | <dgroos> I just compared the dnsmasq conf files from a successful install and this one, and the only difference betweent the two was that one line.
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| 21:16 | Thanks!
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| 21:17 | <alkisg> In your setups I think you're using 192.168.67.1, aren't you?
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| 21:17 | Internal subnet etc...
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| 21:17 | Maybe you configured that IP wrong this time?
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| 21:17 | <dgroos> yes
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| 21:17 | let me check…
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| 21:17 | <alkisg> And you put it to 192.168.1.1 instead?
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| 21:18 | <dgroos> arg… 192.168.1.67!
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| 21:18 | <alkisg> :)
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| 21:18 | <dgroos> let me adjust that a bit…
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| 21:18 | <alkisg> And then re-run initial-setup again, so that it removes the invalid proxy range
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| 21:18 | It's not necessary, but there's no need to keep that additional line
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| 21:20 | <dgroos> Re-ran initial setup, it completed without any comment other than “…successfully completed. Press enter…”
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| 21:20 | And I still see the line in the dnsmasq file
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| 21:20 | I will just comment it out…
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| 21:21 | and re-trying boot…
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| 21:22 | Still not picking up a DHCP address. I’ll reboot the server, it’s quick :-)
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| 21:24 | AND it’s working!
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| 21:24 | Thanks again Alkis!
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| 21:24 | And that makes all servers set up for the year. Been working on them all since Oct… :-(
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| 21:26 | <alkisg> Ouch
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| 21:26 | That's a long time for something that's supposed to be ...pnp, we should make it better :D
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| 21:26 | <dgroos> Glad to leave them behind. I’ve got a recipe for a server with pbis and ltsp-manager that works. I wonder if that would be a useful thing to share somewhere? Maybe the ltsp-discuss.
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| 21:26 | what does pnp stand for, I’ve wondered?
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| 21:27 | <alkisg> plug and play, it was used a lot in the past for some cards that didn't have jumpers on them
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| 21:27 | <dgroos> Ah, I’ve been doing a lot of plugging and playing!
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| 21:28 | and a lot of jumping, too!
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| 21:30 | But yeah, it really was the Active Directory integration with LTSP-pnp that was the show stopper. Your fix with setting the pbis-open directive (or whatever it’s called) from “” to “Password: “ made things possible.
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| 21:31 | pbis seems to have it’s own strange issues. For example it works on my 16.04 if I first install a legacy version 8.0.x, join, then unjoin, then uninstall and reinstall 8.5.x and then re-join.
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| 21:32 | <vagrantc> plug and play isa cards required a notorious amount of configuration
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| 21:32 | <jeremies> How to enable autologin when a user has no password (i.e. passwd -d user )
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| 21:32 | '
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| 21:32 | ?
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| 21:32 | <vagrantc> jeremies: you need to set up an ssh key
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| 21:32 | <jeremies> but what I need to write in lts.conf?
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| 21:33 | <dgroos> going straight to version 8.5.x gives a very annoying: "LW_ERROR_LDAP_CONSTRAINT_VIOLATION" but I’m leaving that behind me!
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| 21:33 | Now I’ve got to clean up my classroom — 2 weeks of ‘break’ come to a close today! Again, thanks everyone for your help.
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| 21:34 | goodbye!
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