IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 November 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:38 | <vagrantc> welcome back!
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| 01:39 | <Ryan52> s/the //
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| 09:51 | <alkisg> ogra_, bennabiy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNzY :)
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| 09:51 | <ogra_> yeah, saw it
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> Hehe that michael guy tries to find news wherever he can
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| 09:52 | <ogra_> yeah, nothing happened last week, so he had to crawl mail archives ...
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| 09:53 | well, if the discussion that will start helps to make mint secure, thats a good thing at least ;)
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> True!
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| 13:29 | <gvs> Hi, can I get access to non-printer non-storage devices on a client? I want to use a smartcard reader
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| 13:29 | localdev is enabled
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| 13:42 | <Hyperbyte> gvs, from local applications, sure... from server applications, you'd need an interface. LTSP only provides interface for sound, printers, storage, video, etc....
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| 14:14 | <gvs> Hyperbyte: thanks, so no chance on getting this to work otherwise?
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| 14:15 | <bennabiy> alkisg: Interesting.
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> bennabiy: I have some free time, did you want something about your fat clients installation?
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| 16:49 | <bennabiy> I might be able to in about 10 minutes
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| 16:49 | I have a server down and am trying to get it up
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| 16:50 | * bennabiy is learning to hat...love LDAP | |
| 16:51 | <bennabiy> I really would like to get a fat client stable, so I can be able to take my userload off the server
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| 16:59 | <spotty_> Hi
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| 16:59 | anybody here ?
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| 17:06 | <bennabiy> !ask
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| 17:06 | <ltsp`> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 17:10 | <bennabiy> alkisg: how much time do you have?
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> bennabiy: maybe half an hour, !ask :)
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| 17:22 | <bennabiy> bah!
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| 17:22 | I guess it will not work out for today.
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| 17:22 | I appreciate you letting me know though
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> np
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| 17:23 | <bennabiy> I will post my question when I get a chance to work on it.
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| 17:23 | on a side note, do you know of any good resources for learning greek for english speakers?
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> I hear that getting a Greek girlfriend works fine for that :P
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| 17:24 | <cliebow> heh
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> (an on a more serious tone, no idea...)
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| 17:26 | <ogra_> did it improve your greek ?
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| 19:06 | <bennabiy> ogra_ alkisg: http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/11/answering-controversy-stability-vs-security-is-something-you-configure/ a response
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| 19:39 | <jammcq> hey all. question for the geniuses: a diskless T-1220, anybody know the best Xserver driver to use?
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| 19:40 | <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 19:41 | <jammcq> i'm not at the workstation. i'm trying to help someone who's asking me
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| 19:41 | i'll have him try that lspci to see what comes out
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| 19:42 | I think it's a VIA chipset
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| 19:42 | but we'll see
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> If we have the pci id, we can then look at the entries in /lib/modules/3.8.0-33-generic/modules.pcimap
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> Usually the best is to let the autodetected driver, and only use vesa if that fails
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| 19:43 | <jammcq> the screen is coming up black
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| 19:43 | he's running ubuntu 13.10
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> But sometimes via chipsets are hit or miss and need nomodeset or even a specific kernel
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| 19:44 | * alkisg prefers LTS editions because the easily allow different kernels, lts-raring, lts-quantal etc | |
| 19:44 | <alkisg> And even come with many different xorg versions, xorg-raring etc
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| 20:10 | <ogra_> bennabiy, FYI http://ograblog.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/lots-of-canonical-in-my-mouth/
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| 20:20 | <alkisg> Meh... so the main idea in all those threads is, don't publicly state any bad opinions about anything, if you don't want to waste hours blogging against conspiracy theories... :(
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| 20:21 | * bennabiy corrects to wasting hours blogging period | |
| 20:28 | <ogra_> alkisg, well, funnily in exactly that mail is was totally aware of the flame potential ... which is why i checked the code i referred to twice and chose my words quite carefully ... (i remember explicitly adding the "personally" before sending it back then)
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| 20:29 | apparently that didnt save me though :)
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| 20:30 | the sad part is that the actual news "Mate is coming to debian and Ubuntu" totally drowned in the flamewar :(
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| 20:33 | <alkisg> That's really good news, I hope it's available for 14.04, even if in a ppa
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| 20:35 | <ogra_> thats what the thread was about ...
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| 20:38 | <bennabiy> yes. clem made that comment as well ( cannot remember if in channel, or in his response)
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| 20:38 | in an ideal world, the actual news of mate being in debian or ubuntu should make everyone rejoice
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| 20:39 | * bennabiy had no hard feelings towards ogra_ :) | |
| 20:39 | <ogra_> :)
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| 20:39 | i guess only some sensationalist commenters had hard feeelings after all ... sad is that so many people get caught by that
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| 20:39 | <bennabiy> Although, you are welcome to move here for a time, and we can done lern ya' how to speak english!
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| 20:40 | <ogra_> LOL
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| 20:40 | as long as you dont feed me raisins
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| 20:40 | <bennabiy> hold on... getting my recorder ready... can you say that again?
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| 20:40 | * ogra_ giggles | |
| 20:44 | <bennabiy> ogra_ any good with LDAP?
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| 20:45 | <ogra_> nope, i used it years ago exactly once
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| 20:46 | <bennabiy> ok
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| 20:46 | Care to state s/your/Canonical/g's opinion on the software?
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| 20:46 | * bennabiy smiles | |
| 20:48 | <bennabiy> Sorry, I will let it rest
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| 20:48 | I really am not trying to give you a hard time
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| 20:48 | I am just trying to gain my sanity after trying to wrestle with LDAP
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| 21:16 | <vmlintu> bennabiy: Is LDAP beating you?
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| 21:18 | <bennabiy> yes
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| 21:21 | <vmlintu> what kind of troble is it giving you?
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| 21:24 | <bennabiy> Well, I am more trying to get my information for about 200 users into a format that I can easily use for citadel, openfire and global address book, sogo etc.
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| 21:25 | <bennabiy> I think I am coming out on the other side... brb
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| 21:26 | It is more extracting the info from the existing citadel install, putting it into ldif, and then bringing it all in
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| 21:26 | brb
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| 21:27 | <vmlintu> what kind of system are you building?
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| 21:30 | <bennabiy> It is for email, and address books, and authentication, possibly even trying to set up global LDAP users for a global LTSP directory
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| 21:31 | <bennabiy> my primary goal, SSO for openfire xmpp, citadel (for email and collab)
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| 21:31 | <vmlintu> is it for schools or something else?
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| 21:31 | <bennabiy> for our organization
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| 21:33 | <vmlintu> I haven't heard about citadel for quite some time
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| 21:33 | <bennabiy> It has come quite a long ways
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| 21:34 | but now I am trying to neuter it back to meet our needs
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| 21:36 | <vmlintu> xmpp reminds me that I should finally do some ejabberd configuration myself
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| 21:37 | <bennabiy> I am impressed with openfire, but just cannot get file transfers to work properly.
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| 21:37 | citadel has a different approach to xmpp, which would be fine, but does not implement jingle or oob-stuff
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| 21:39 | <vmlintu> have you tried any video conferencing software?
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| 21:40 | <bennabiy> Trying to get an all in one as much as possible. The only reason I am even messing with LDAP is to not have to have multiple user stores
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| 21:40 | openfire supports video conference
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| 21:42 | <vmlintu> hmm, maybe I should give openfire another look..
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| 21:44 | Have you tried how much it needs bandwidth for video conferencing?
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| 21:46 | <bennabiy> Nope, I need to get LDAP fully configured before I can really get into it more
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| 21:47 | <vmlintu> Are you using OpenLDAP or something else?
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| 21:49 | Learning LDAP was quite difficult at first.. took quite a while to understand all concepts..
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| 21:53 | <bennabiy> OpenLDAP
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| 21:53 | It is so basic, but my brain is not so organized... I get confused at the amount of order
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| 21:54 | I am starting to understand the basics of it, but figuring out how to be able to use security groups, or to make use of it for more than just a username password store
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| 21:57 | <vmlintu> I had to write a helper program to create the ACLs for OpenLDAP once they got too complicated..
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| 21:58 | <bennabiy> perhaps you could send me some info that helped you. Ultimately I need to know which is more effective, to add individual ldifs at a time, or one large ldif for all the users, and then one at a time for new
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| 21:58 | back in a bit
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| 22:01 | <vmlintu> We built our own management tool that adds them one by one even when mass creating users
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| 22:02 | I wouldn't worry about the user creating performance
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