IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 31 May 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:14 | <solv> is anyone here running google-chrome as a local app? I did have it running with a script to make all users share the same profile in /tmp...but I actually wanted the users to be able to save their passwords for google apps in their profile. This seemed to be working fine for a while, but now at random users are getting the Singleton Lock issue. Wondering if would work to write a launch script that just deleted the Singleton Lock
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| 01:14 | in their $HOME/.config/google-chrome , or if that would break things? School is managed remotely...don't wanna try it and then find out it's broken everything
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| 01:15 | clarify: I removed the old script and just run an icon from desktop that says: ltsp-localapps google-chrome
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| 09:15 | <torbjorn> hi i have joined my TS to a windows domain, so users can now log on with their win domain accounts which is cool. however they have to type DOMAINNAME\\username as username input, thats quit eugly, can that be made nicer? at least make it work with single \
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| 09:35 | <work_alkisg> Hyperbyte: again ltsp.org was down, again apache restart solved it. Do you think we should disable the file_get_contents() call for the rss feed, to avoid reentrant apache invocations?
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| 09:36 | jammcq: ^
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| 09:46 | <workingcats> hello, got a little problem switching to fat client.. when i set LTSP_FATCLIENT = TRUE the clients boot as normal, but then when i try to log in it briefly thinks, falls back to textmode for a moment, and then shows me the start of the logon screen again.. any idea what i might be doing wrong?
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| 09:47 | lifeboy_away is now known as lifeboy | |
| 09:47 | <lifeboy> Hi all!
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| 09:47 | <workingcats> the image works fine for thin client. i built it with "ltsp-build-client --fat-client --fat-client-desktop edubuntu-desktop --arch i386 --skipimage; [now install fluxbox and remove unity, gnome, libreoffice, ...]; ltsp-update-image --arch i386"
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| 09:47 | hi lifeboy
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| 09:48 | <lifeboy> wondering if anyone knows why exim is installed in an Ubuntu 10.04 i386 chroot. If I try to remove it, it wants to remove ltsp-client as well, which I can prevent by marking ltsp-client as manually installed though.
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| 09:50 | <workingcats> what happens when you remove exim using that method and then run system updates (inside the chroot)? if it does NOT want to re-install exim then everything is fine, i'd just forget about it in that case..,
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| 09:54 | <lifeboy> Yes, I guess I'll just do it, but just wanted to hear why it's there in the first place. I never noticed it in Ubuntu 10.04 before, so I suppose it's an ltsp thing that installed it. I get all sort of errors and warning re exim in the client log, so I'm trying to clean things up a bit.
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| 09:55 | <workingcats> wrt my issue, i just noticed in the ldm.log, it says it established ssh session, start scripts, start X, end X, stop scripts - all in the same second. then comes a warning but that is after the X session has ended so i don't think thats it :/
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| 09:55 | <alkisg> workingcats: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions ==> anything there?
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| 09:55 | <workingcats> alkisg, on the server?
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| 09:55 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 09:55 | <workingcats> fluxbox.desktop
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| 09:56 | same in the fat image for that matter
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| 09:57 | <alkisg> workingcats: remove LTSP_FATCLIENT from lts.conf, it should default to True anyway,
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| 09:57 | and then before login, try to select fluxbox from the LDM preferences => session menu
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| 09:57 | <workingcats> i'll remove the line, i had already selected fluxbox from the preferences
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| 09:57 | one mom
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| 09:57 | <alkisg> workingcats: then,
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| 09:57 | try with LDM_XSESSION=/usr/bin/xterm
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| 09:58 | ...and when you login and the xterm starts, run the fluxbox command line from inside the xterm, to check for any errors
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| 09:58 | <workingcats> excellent idea, thanks
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| 09:58 | <alkisg> grep ^Exec /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop ==> that's the command line to run from xterm
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| 09:58 | (the result of that command...)
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| 09:59 | <workingcats> ah it's got "xterm as emergency solution" in the session choice menu as well actually
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| 09:59 | <alkisg> OK, run that
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| 09:59 | <workingcats> same thing happens :/
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| 10:01 | <alkisg> (12:58:03 μμ) alkisg: try with LDM_XSESSION=/usr/bin/xterm
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| 10:01 | <workingcats> ah found the error
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| 10:01 | in /home/test02/.xsession-errors on the server
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| 10:02 | thanks though :)
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| 10:02 | still need to get used to checking these logs on the server
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| 10:09 | <workingcats> alkisg, i'm still not quite clear what is loaded from the image, and from the server via NFS or NBD or whatever... at which point does it switch?
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| 10:10 | is the Exec'd command still ran from the image?
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| 10:11 | <alkisg> workingcats: ubuntu + nbd?
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| 10:11 | If so, then there's no NFS involved at all, just nbd for the root file system and sshfs for /home/username
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| 10:12 | <workingcats> ah ok
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| 10:14 | <workingcats> ok so i had an "error, aborting" from xmodmap not finding its file in the xsession-errors.. fixed that by editing /usr/bin/startfluxbox (its just a script). but seems that wasn't my real problem, it still behaves as before (except not making the error)
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| 10:14 | with the LDM_XSESSION set as you told me
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> workingcats: LDM_XSESSION=xterm is not working?!
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| 10:18 | <workingcats> alkisg, nope :(
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| 10:18 | well, LDM_XSESSION=/usr/bin/xterm
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| 10:19 | i checked, in image and on server it exists there
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| 10:19 | <alkisg> And if you specify LTSP_FATCLIENT=False, and remove LDM_XSESSION, you are able to login?
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| 10:20 | <workingcats> yep - in fact i'm writing from a client booted like that
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| 10:20 | oh do i need to reboot the client after changing lts.conf?
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| 10:21 | <alkisg> Yup :)
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| 10:21 | <workingcats> just reconfirmed, logon with fat client=false and removed ldm_xsession works
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| 10:21 | ok i may not have rebooted
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| 10:21 | let me try
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| 10:23 | <workingcats> alkisg, nope, no change :(
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| 10:24 | <alkisg> One idea is that you might have purged too many packages
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| 10:24 | !xauthority
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| 10:24 | <ltsp> xauthority: To access the thin client X display from ssh or from a local console, try: export $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pgrep -nx 'ldm|kdm_greet|lxdm-greeter-gt|dbus-daemon')/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=')
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| 10:25 | <alkisg> If you run that from e.g. ssh on the client, or from SCREEN_02=shell,
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| 10:25 | then you can run xterm and get an xterm on top of LDM, without login
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| 10:25 | And from there you could run fluxbox.desktop as root, so that you see any error messages
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| 10:25 | <workingcats> ok one sec
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| 10:26 | ive set a root pw in the image
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| 10:26 | im quite certain i didnt remvoe anything that fluxbox depends on
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| 10:27 | it was mostly obviously unrelated things like ubunto one, telepathy things, unity things, etc. there was one thing that could be a part of gtk3, but i really doubt fluxbox&xterm use that
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| 10:27 | (and the image is still 1.4G)
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| 10:32 | i assume when you said run fluxbox.desktop you meant run the Exec line from it?
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| 10:33 | i think it complains that another WM is already running in display :7
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| 10:34 | ah i can kill ldm with killall cant i
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| 10:35 | oh sorry i misread
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| 10:35 | ok starting the xterm works, but when i try to run fluxbox i get the same errors as if i try to run it directly from the shell
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| 10:39 | a bunch of errors that it failed to read settings and uses default values, then these (translated by me): http://pastebin.com/F6jGrdn8
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> workingcats: so it's probably a problem with the ltsp wwm, let me find you the command line to disable it...
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| 10:56 | Try LDM_WINMANAGER=/bin/true
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| 11:05 | <workingcats> trying with xsession and winmanager lines active now
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| 11:09 | ok no luck, gonna try the export and xterm from earlier again
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| 11:20 | <workingcats> work_alkisg, ok now fluxbo started :D
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| 11:20 | tyvm so far, i think if push came to shove i could make this dark magic permanent.. but is there a better solution? ;)
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