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Channel log from 4 March 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:28 | <celui> Hello !
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| 03:32 | I have a question about LTSP Users ! If i want to create an user, his homedir must be in /home/USER or /opt/ltsp/i386/home/USER ? But i use this command "adduser test -d /opt/ltsp/i386/home". This good or not? Maybe a special command for creta user in LTSP system. Thanks !
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| 03:34 | <chrisjrob> Celui: why are you creating users in the chroot? Only usually created in /home/USER on the server.
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| 03:36 | <celui> Hi, when i create an user, i type adduser test. No more
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| 03:38 | <chrisjrob> Yes.
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| 03:38 | You never actually log onto the client, unless you are diagnosing problems
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| 03:39 | in which case you use the root account (just set the root password in the chroot to do so)
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| 03:40 | when you log in *from* the client, it connects to the server user account
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| 03:41 | <celui> ha ok, i thought it was necessary to create in /opt/ltsp/1386/home ! But the /opt/ltsp/i386/home used for what??
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| 03:41 | <chrisjrob> Nothing
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| 03:41 | Mine's completely empty.
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| 03:41 | <celui> hu ok :)
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| 03:44 | thas
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| 03:44 | thanks ;)
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| 03:47 | <chrisjrob> celui: my pleasure!
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| 03:48 | i'm having a complete nightmare with a fresh lenny install. followed http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto. client boot fails with "rpc failed: 2". obviously an nfs problem, but /etc/exports seems okay.
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| 03:50 | <celui> You have stop the firewall during the test? Or PORTMAP files no?
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| 03:50 | <chrisjrob> there is no firewall between the client and the server, unless i'm much mistaken.
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| 03:51 | <celui> And PORTMAP file?
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| 03:52 | <chrisjrob> i restarted portmap and nfs-kernel-server, but no joy - is there something else needed?
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| 03:53 | what's the portmap file? /etc/default/portmap is all commented out...
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| 03:54 | <celui> bad.. But i had the same problem and the chnages on this file are worked...
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| 03:55 | sorry, i'm fench it's not easy to speak a good english ^^
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| 03:56 | <chrisjrob> your english is better than my french!!
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| 03:56 | <celui> HuHu !
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| 03:57 | Ihave looking a how to for Portmap and it's possible to make "dpkg-reconfigure portmap " and reply no to the questioon
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| 03:58 | <celui> Maybe..
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| 03:58 | <chrisjrob> thanks celui - sounds plausible, i'll give that a go - merci bien!
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| 03:59 | <celui> ^^ avec plaisir ;)
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| 04:04 | <chrisjrob> dmesg is showing the following two lines:
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| 04:04 | NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 state recovery directory
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| 04:05 | NFSD: starting 90-second grace period
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| 04:05 | can anyone tell me if those messages are normal?
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| 05:56 | <knipwim> i can't figure out how ldm works exactly
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| 05:56 | i can boot in my thin client to cli
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| 05:57 | <knipwim> start ldm from startx
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| 05:57 | err, start ldm after startx
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| 05:58 | i get the greeter, i try to log in
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| 05:58 | but the greeter says it can't connect with the server
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| 05:58 | is ldm in my client not connecting, or is something on the server not receiving?
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| 06:10 | <ogra> knipwim, ldm needs to start from the ltsp initscripts, else you miss the environment
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| 06:10 | you should rather try to find out whats wrong with the default, if it doesnt start as it should ...
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| 06:15 | <cyberorg> ogra, http://www.osnews.com/story/21069/OpenSUSE_s_Kiwi-LTSP_Easy_Thin_Client_Server :)
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| 06:15 | there is nice complement to ubuntu's documentation too ;)
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| 06:17 | <ogra> will make Lns happy
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| 06:27 | <chrisjrob> on a fresh lenny install i'm having client boot issues. they get passed pxelinux boot process, but nfs mount fails with rpc failed: 2, leaving busybox initramfs prompt with error /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. client and server are on same subnet and switch. anyone else experienced this?
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| 06:30 | <rjune> !o
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| 06:30 | <ltspbot> rjune: Error: "o" is not a valid command.
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| 06:30 | <rjune> wtf? I thought it was.
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| 06:30 | ogra!
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| 07:44 | <knipwim> ogra: executing the ltsp initscript is the problem
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| 07:45 | <ogra> right, find out why
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| 07:45 | thats what i was saying
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| 07:45 | <knipwim> nothing happens on tty7
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| 07:45 | <ogra> what distro ?
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| 07:45 | <knipwim> gentoo
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| 07:45 | <ogra> oh
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| 07:45 | then you need to wait for johnny
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| 07:45 | <knipwim> could it be a problem in the gentoo ltsp init script?
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| 07:46 | <ogra> it should use the upstream initscript ...
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| 07:46 | afaik all distros use it now
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| 07:56 | <ogra> Ryan52, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ldm-2.1.tgz
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| 07:56 | Ryan52, but beware far from being anything near usable
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| 07:57 | Ryan52, as i said, more a proof of concept for new themeing etc
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| 08:34 | <johnny> hi
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| 08:35 | <knipwim> hey johnny
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| 08:36 | does the /etc/init.d/ltsp-client start work on your gentoo install?
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| 08:36 | <johnny> been awhile since i tested it
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| 08:36 | a recent bug report says ldm needs iso-codes now
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| 08:36 | <knipwim> that was mine :)
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| 08:36 | <johnny> after that, it should work from my understanding
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| 08:37 | <johnny> hmm.. did you say the thing about ltsp-client depending on ldm?
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| 08:37 | i'm going to relook at my deps shortly
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| 08:37 | <knipwim> yes
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| 08:37 | <johnny> there was a recent i decided against it
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| 08:37 | <knipwim> ldm should be installed on the client right?
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| 08:37 | <johnny> reason*
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| 08:37 | yes
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| 08:37 | atm it's depped in the profile
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| 08:38 | profile file that is
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| 08:38 | i kidna wonder about actually making ltsp a real profile in gentoo terms
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| 08:40 | <knipwim> hmm, i don't know a lot about them
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| 08:40 | <johnny> or even just a set..
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| 08:40 | are you familiar with the new sets ..?
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| 08:40 | i could make emerge @ltsp-client potentially
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| 08:41 | <knipwim> profiles are responsible for teh default use flags, among other things right?
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| 08:44 | <johnny> yes
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| 08:44 | like the default packages for system targets
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| 08:59 | <ninou> hi
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| 09:00 | i need ldm to set an xsetroot command after starting X, how can i do that ?
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| 09:03 | <mushroomblue> so, turns out, all of the latest HP thin clents are based on the VX800 chipset
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| 09:04 | which has issues in intrepid.
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| 09:17 | <Ryan52> ogra: thanks
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| 09:17 | <ogra> i'm up to my ears in ARM work until next thu. so dont expect quick answers if you have questions :)
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| 09:34 | <xorITor> is there a way to make the ldm greeter for ltsp 5 on fedora 10 display a message box BEFORE the login information is asked for?
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| 09:35 | ie... "Restricted system.......... by clicking ok you understand and agree to...... "
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| 09:35 | blah blah blah
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| 09:35 | <Ryan52> xorITor: potentially. look at the rc.d scripts.
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| 09:36 | might be in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/
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| 09:36 | add something that starts with an I
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| 09:36 | <xorITor> Ryan52, yea I am looking into those, but I am not sure about how to make it a "click ok to accept" type of box
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| 09:36 | s/box/message box/
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| 09:38 | <Ryan52> xorITor: ldm-dialog --message "blah blah blah."
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| 09:38 | if that's not what you wanted, please elaborate.
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| 09:38 | <xorITor> Thank you soooooooooo much... let me try that and get back to you
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| 09:39 | <rjune_> ogra, hope it goes well for you
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| 09:41 | <xorITor> is there a way to put a cancel button on that?
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| 09:42 | other than that... it is perfect
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| 09:43 | <Ryan52> while ! ldm-dialog --yesno "blah blah blah. would you like to continue?"; do :; done
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| 09:43 | might work.
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| 09:43 | tho I don't see why you would want a cancel button.
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| 09:43 | doens't really make sense to me, at leas.t
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| 09:45 | <xorITor> depends on if the cancel button kicks them back to the banner or lets them through to the login part
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| 09:45 | if it does let them through then there is no point
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| 09:45 | Ryan52, you freakin rock! thanks
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| 09:46 | where are the docs for this?
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| 09:47 | <Ryan52> looks like it's not. :)
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| 09:48 | <xorITor> :-D
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| 09:48 | hehehe
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| 09:48 | Ryan52, in that case you rock even harder!
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| 09:48 | <Ryan52> :)
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| 10:18 | <chrisjrob> on a new lenny install, our clients are failing with "rpc failed: 2"
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| 10:18 | leaving busybox initramfs prompt with error /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
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| 10:19 | after three days of fighting this problem, i'm getting nowhere.
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| 10:19 | <johnny> nfs problem i bet
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| 10:19 | <chrisjrob> indeed.
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| 10:19 | but what? it's running, the exports are there.
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| 10:19 | <johnny> try mounting them elsewhere
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| 10:19 | on some other pc
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| 10:19 | <chrisjrob> i can connect to it from my laptop fine
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| 10:20 | <johnny> yell at the debian maintainer :)
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| 10:20 | hehe
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| 10:20 | <chrisjrob> thanks!
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| 10:21 | * johnny only knows how to use nfs.. not fix it if it breaks | |
| 10:22 | <johnny> my used ltsp install is on ubuntu
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| 10:22 | <chrisjrob> same as me!
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| 10:22 | <johnny> which doesn't use nfs at all
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| 10:22 | <chrisjrob> (same as me re. not being able to fix nfs, not being on ubuntu)
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| 10:23 | <johnny> you could always just use ubuntu if you don't get anywhere :)
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| 10:24 | i like debian and all... but it gets out of date too quickly.. and i don't feel like pinning everything under the sun to get what i want :)
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| 10:24 | <chrisjrob> in busybox, i notice that /etc/hosts does not exist, is that normal?
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| 10:24 | <johnny> probably
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| 10:25 | <Ryan52> use sid! :P
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| 10:25 | <johnny> lol.. use sid
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| 10:25 | <johnny> when are they gonna run out of toy story character names..
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| 10:25 | well.. at this rate.. it'll take awhile
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| 10:25 | <Ryan52> haha
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| 10:27 | <chrisjrob> i wonder about the final error "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
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| 10:27 | <johnny> that's a normal thing
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| 10:27 | if everything else is broken
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| 10:27 | <chrisjrob> blast - hoped it was a clue.
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| 10:27 | <johnny> why not try to mount nfs directly from there?
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| 10:27 | <chrisjrob> same error
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| 10:27 | <johnny> see if that works
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| 10:28 | oh
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| 10:28 | <chrisjrob> rpc failed: 2
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| 10:28 | <johnny> well.. look in server logs then i guess
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| 10:28 | <chrisjrob> yup - nothing.
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| 10:28 | <johnny> switch to ubuntu?
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| 10:28 | hehe
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| 10:28 | * chrisjrob scratches head | |
| 10:28 | <Ryan52> bad johnny! :P
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| 10:28 | <johnny> Ryan52, well you fix his problem then
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| 10:28 | * Ryan52 hides | |
| 10:28 | <johnny> ah.. see..
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| 10:28 | you slacker
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| 10:28 | * Ryan52 closes bug with status worksforme :P | |
| 10:29 | <johnny> that's mean
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| 10:29 | <Gadi1> chrisjrob: have you rebooted the server?
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| 10:29 | <johnny> oh no.. gadi is here
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| 10:29 | <chrisjrob> sadly more times than is healthy!
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| 10:29 | <Gadi1> :D
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| 10:29 | and you cannot mount the nfs mount even locally?
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| 10:29 | you always get an rpc error?
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| 10:29 | <johnny> from other machines. yes..
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| 10:29 | <Ryan52> it might mean no such file or directory.
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| 10:30 | so check that you have your path set right.
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| 10:30 | in the dhcp configs.
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| 10:30 | <Gadi1> pastebot your dhcpd.conf
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| 10:30 | <johnny> ah.. now i'll learn how to fix it.. :)
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| 10:30 | !pastebot
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| 10:30 | <ltspbot> johnny: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 10:30 | <Ryan52> when did Gadi become Gadi1 ... I'm seeing double! :P
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| 10:30 | * Ryan52 leaves for school | |
| 10:30 | <chrisjrob> Correct, I cannot mount locally
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| 10:30 | <chrisjrob> Correct, I always get rpc error
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| 10:31 | Correct, I can mount from other machines.
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| 10:31 | I will post dhcpd.conf...
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| 10:34 | <ltsppbot> "chrisjrob" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (56 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/271
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| 10:35 | <chrisjrob> it is slightly more complex, as I am trying to maintain the existing infrastructure.
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| 10:35 | but I have also tried cutting back to a basic one from /etc/ltsp and it still failed
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| 10:37 | <Gadi1> did you change the pxelinux.cfg/default at all?
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| 10:38 | <chrisjrob> probably in trying to resolve this issue, but i think it's back to the default now...
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| 10:38 | <Gadi1> can you paste that and your exports file?
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| 10:38 | <chrisjrob> DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp boot=nfs
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| 10:39 | exports: /opt/ltsp/ *(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
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| 10:39 | <Gadi1> and are you sure there are no other dhcp servers on that subnet?
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| 10:40 | * chrisjrob is checking... | |
| 10:40 | <chrisjrob> definitely not.
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| 10:41 | both client and server on the same switch and i have tried replacing switch
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| 10:41 | with only the server and client on the temporary switch
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| 10:42 | and it still failed
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| 10:42 | <Lumiere> are all the nfs services running?
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| 10:42 | <Gadi1> you have been editing /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, yes?
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| 10:42 | and restarting it between edits
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| 10:42 | <Lumiere> or is there a firewall blocking those points?
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| 10:42 | <Gadi1> not /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
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| 10:42 | <chrisjrob> yes Gadi1
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| 10:42 | Sorry Gadi, i have been editing /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
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| 10:43 | <Gadi1> ah, that may be the problem
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| 10:43 | <chrisjrob> omg
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| 10:43 | <Lumiere> uh... if you are getting RPC errors... that is not dhcp...
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| 10:43 | <Gadi1> cp /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 10:43 | and restart dhcp
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| 10:43 | Lumiere: it is if the dhcpd.conf file passes the wrong path
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| 10:44 | his error is no such file or directory error
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| 10:44 | * chrisjrob is rebooting client | |
| 10:44 | <chrisjrob> rpc failed: 2
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| 10:45 | <Gadi1> swing and a miss
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| 10:45 | :)
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| 10:45 | <chrisjrob> no problem - just so grateful for some help!
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| 10:45 | <Gadi1> does it give you more info on the client before that?
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| 10:45 | or in the server logs?
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| 10:45 | that might indicate what it is attempting to do
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| 10:45 | <chrisjrob> it gets passed the pxelinux bit and then confirms various
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| 10:45 | <Gadi1> ie, mounting <path> from <ip>
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| 10:46 | <chrisjrob> information, including
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| 10:46 | ip's and path, but they all look right afaik
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| 10:46 | <Gadi1> are you booting on eof the reserved IPs in that conf file?
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| 10:47 | *one of
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| 10:47 | ie, one of the host decls
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| 10:47 | <rjune_> !g
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| 10:47 | <chrisjrob> yes, the .53
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| 10:47 | <ltspbot> rjune_: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 10:47 | <chrisjrob> i can ping it from the server fine, with the ws053 or the ip#
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| 10:48 | <Gadi1> and the server's eth0 is 0.17?
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| 10:48 | <chrisjrob> yes
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| 10:48 | <Gadi1> from busybox, try this:
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| 10:49 | mount -t nfs 192.168.0.17:/opt/ltsp/i386 /mnt
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| 10:50 | <chrisjrob> no such file or directory
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| 10:51 | <chrisjrob> ah, /mnt doesn't exist
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| 10:51 | <Gadi1> mkdir /mnt
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| 10:51 | <chrisjrob> invalid argument
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| 10:51 | <Gadi1> :)
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| 10:51 | <ogra> use /root
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| 10:51 | <Gadi1> or that
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| 10:52 | <chrisjrob> still invalid arhument, should i be using nfsmount instead
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| 10:52 | that fails with rpc failed: 2 though :-(
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| 10:53 | <Gadi1> anything in the logs on the server?
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| 10:53 | syslog
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| 10:53 | * chrisjrob checking.. | |
| 10:54 | <chrisjrob> nothing in syslog, except for happy dhcp entries
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| 10:55 | <Gadi1> on server, do: showmount -e
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| 10:55 | <chrisjrob> Returns export list: /opt/ltsp *
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| 10:55 | <Gadi1> weird
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| 10:55 | <ogra> ps ax|grep portmap
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| 10:56 | <chrisjrob> 2448 ? Ss 0:01 /sbin/portmap
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| 10:56 | <Gadi1> on client, in busybox, try to ping the server
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| 10:56 | <ogra> have a look at /etc/default/portmap as well
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| 10:56 | <chrisjrob> pings the server fine
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| 10:56 | <Gadi1> ok
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| 10:56 | do what ogra says
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| 10:57 | <chrisjrob> #OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"
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| 10:57 | <ogra> looks ok
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| 10:58 | cat /proc/filesystems|grep nfs
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| 10:58 | on the client
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| 10:58 | <chrisjrob> having to reboot the client, as i couldn't ctrl+c the pinging
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| 10:58 | * chrisjrob waiting for the rpc failures to complete | |
| 10:59 | <chrisjrob> Sorry, still waiting for the failures to give up - takes a while!
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| 11:01 | okay it returns
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| 11:01 | nodev nfs
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| 11:01 | nodev nfs4
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| 11:07 | <ogra> looks fine as well
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| 11:07 | <chrisjrob> thought as much
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| 11:29 | <knipwim> is /var/run/ltsp-xorg.conf the default autoprobed xorg config file?
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| 11:40 | <Gadi1> ogra: got a sec?
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| 11:40 | <ogra> not really, is it important ?
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| 11:41 | <Gadi1> its a quick one
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| 11:41 | just need an opinion
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| 11:41 | I patched the compiz script to force fallback wm when display is remote
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| 11:42 | my thinking is that remote displays should force compiz with SKIP_CHECKS="yes"
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| 11:42 | <ogra> doesnt that script have something like that already ?
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| 11:42 | <Gadi1> how do you think that would go over with the ubuntu folks?
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| 11:42 | no, thats the problem
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| 11:42 | <ogra> ask mvo
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| 11:42 | <Gadi1> it checks local xserver info for compiz-compat
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| 11:42 | <ogra> he has to judge
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| 11:42 | <Gadi1> ok
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| 11:43 | is he in ubuntu-devel?
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| 11:43 | <ogra> imho it shouldnt skip, but dtrt
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| 11:43 | and that not based on a local logfile
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| 11:43 | <Gadi1> there's no good way to ask a remote Xserver its driver
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| 11:43 | thats the problem
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| 11:43 | <ogra> no, but its capabilities
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| 11:43 | it shouldnt rely on driver at all imho
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| 11:44 | i dont like the design of the whole thing as you might grok :)
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| 11:44 | it should chek for GLX and composite
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| 11:44 | and ignore the driver
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| 11:45 | <Gadi1> right
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| 11:45 | it tries
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| 11:45 | but, I guess there are drivers that are broken
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| 11:45 | <ogra> yeah
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| 11:45 | i heard something like that
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| 11:46 | <Gadi1> this would be a welcome intermediate step, tho
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| 11:46 | in other words: if you cant do a good check don't do a bad one
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| 11:46 | :)
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| 12:44 | <mushroomblue> so, Jaunty Alpha 5's alternate install ISO doesn't include ltsp
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| 12:52 | * ogra is pretty sure it does | |
| 12:53 | <ogra> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2317/230
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| 12:57 | <mushroomblue> yeah. that build no longer exists
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| 12:58 | should I just get a nightly or something?
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| 12:58 | cos alpha 5 definitely doesn't include it.
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| 12:59 | <ogra> thats the alpha5 test
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| 13:00 | <mushroomblue> unless it's just not in the F4 menu like it was before..
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| 13:01 | cos on initial boot, I had no "install LTSP server" option
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| 13:01 | <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-5/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso
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| 13:01 | built on 25th
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| 13:01 | <mushroomblue> yup. that's the one I'm using.
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| 13:01 | <ogra> well, thats the one the test was for
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| 13:02 | <mushroomblue> I like that the additional instructions for the testcase no longer exist
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| 13:02 | <ogra> should be in F4
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| 13:02 | i dont think we have ever put up any :P
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| 13:02 | <mushroomblue> yeah. just set up another virtual machine, and no F4 options.
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| 13:03 | <ogra> ask stgraber then, he reported it working fine
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| 13:03 | <mushroomblue> cool. :)
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| 13:03 | stgraber: alive? :)
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| 13:08 | apparently, someone spiked my coffee with drugs this morning.
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| 13:08 | "Install an LTSP server" is now showing up
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| 13:08 | sorry for wasting time.
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| 13:08 | <johnny> that was me
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| 13:08 | sorry
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| 13:09 | * ogra wants some ! | |
| 13:09 | <ogra> johnny, can you attach some to a mail ? :)
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| 13:09 | <johnny> i think that's illegal :)
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| 13:11 | <mushroomblue> ogra: www.budmail.biz :)
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| 13:24 | <etyack> is there a way to limit a user to a single session/login with ldm?
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| 13:27 | <vagrantc> etyack: with recent versions ...
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| 13:27 | LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION=true/false
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| 13:27 | <etyack> vagrantc: intrepid?
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> no idea ... was first introduced upstream 2008-07-27
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| 13:28 | <ogra> could be that it made it in
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| 13:29 | <rjune_> What's new ogra
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| 13:29 | besides arm
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| 13:29 | <ogra> lots of work :)
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| 13:29 | but thats not new i guess :)
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| 13:30 | <rjune_> heh
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| 13:30 | You going to pycon in chicago?
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| 13:30 | <ogra> i dont think so
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| 13:30 | <etyack> found it, the option is included in intrepid
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| 13:31 | <Gadi1> vagrantc: I don't see how your cdpinger code works
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| 13:31 | got a sec?
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| 13:31 | <ogra> Gadi1, you are always so pessimistic ... tsk
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| 13:31 | <Gadi1> the udev script passes off to cdpinger, but cdpinger calls the udev script
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| 13:31 | :)
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| 13:31 | <vagrantc> Gadi1: it's been working for quite some time :)
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| 13:31 | <Gadi1> I know
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| 13:32 | I am trying to understand how
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| 13:32 | :D
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| 13:32 | <vagrantc> Gadi1: i think the udev rule doesn't call cdpinger if a cdpinger is already running with the appropriate arguments
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| 13:32 | <Gadi1> right, but it exits
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| 13:32 | thats what I dont get
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| 13:33 | <vagrantc> because cdpinger will call the script when it actually needs to run
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| 13:33 | <vagrantc> it's been a while since i've really looked at it ... but it seemed to handle all the possible cases ...
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| 13:33 | <jammcq> hello friends
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| 13:33 | <Gadi1> but cdpinger calls ltspfs_entry on a CD
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| 13:33 | which should cause ltspfs_entry to exit
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| 13:34 | <etyack> jammcq: hey hey
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| 13:37 | <vagrantc> Gadi1: it only exits when it starts a new cdpinger
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| 13:37 | Gadi1: if cdpinger is already running, it continues on
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| 13:38 | <Gadi1> ah, i see
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| 13:38 | <vagrantc> Gadi1: all those 0's and 1's are hard to keep track of :)
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| 13:43 | <Gadi1> vagrantc: I keep wondering if the problems you experienced with cdroms and local ltspfs were on that same bad tarball image you used
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| 13:43 | <vagrantc> Gadi1: bad tarball was ldm
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| 13:44 | <Gadi1> were you not testing with ldm?
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| 13:44 | <vagrantc> i also had those cdpinger problems with my own tarballs
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| 13:44 | Gadi1: i've tried with many tarballs of ldm and ltspfs in conjunction, and they all had the cdpinger problems with local stuffs
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| 13:46 | <Gadi1> ok
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| 14:13 | <stgraber> mushroomblue: what's the problem with LTSP in alpha-5 ? it's there and works fine after install
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| 14:13 | <ogra> stgraber, he had to many blue mushrooms and discovered teh F4 option in the end :)
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| 14:15 | <stgraber> ok :)
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| 14:17 | <Guaraldo> Hi, all...
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| 14:18 | I'm looking for a way to have telnet or ssh connection to an LTSP diskless client
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| 14:18 | Does anyone know how to do it???
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| 14:18 | <rjune_> used to be able to do it
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| 14:18 | probably still can by editing inetd config
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| 14:19 | <Guaraldo> rjune: I'm using LTSP4.2
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| 14:19 | <rjune_> look in ltsp_root for inetd.conf or xinetd.conf
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| 14:22 | <Guaraldo> rjune: but there is no telnetd on the chroot... sshd exists, but how can I autenticate?
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| 14:22 | <rjune_> it auths out of etc/passwd
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| 14:22 | you can do ldap have have local users
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| 14:23 | <Guaraldo> rjune LTSP 4.2???
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| 14:23 | <rjune_> yup
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| 14:31 | <Guaraldo> rjune: There is no pam_ldap.so
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| 14:31 | on the chroot
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| 14:35 | <rjune_> I may be misremembering that then
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| 14:35 | still, You can add users to the passwd and shadow file
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| 14:43 | <Gadi1> Guaraldo: you can copy root's shadow line to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/shadow
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| 14:44 | then login to the client as root
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| 14:44 | (presuming root on the server has a passwd)
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| 14:44 | or do key exchange
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| 14:45 | and make you public key an authorized key in /opt/ltsp/i386/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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| 14:49 | <nicros> does anyone here know how to create openSUSE 11.1 'fat clients' using ltsp and aoe on SLES 10?
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| 14:49 | <nicros> i found a good document but the fat client plugin is for ubuntu
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| 14:49 | <mushroomblue> stgraber: yeah, it was PEBKAC. next time, I'll make sure I have a problem before getting your attention.
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| 14:49 | <Gadi1> lol - nicros - that's a bit of a do-it-yourself job
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| 14:49 | afaik
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| 14:50 | with many obstacles along the way
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| 14:50 | <nicros> do you think it would be too difficult
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| 14:50 | <Gadi1> depends how much you know about how suse works
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| 14:50 | or, in this case, kiwi
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| 14:50 | <nicros> right now i'm using pxelinux and nfsroot to remote boot 1000 diskless clients
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| 14:51 | but nfsroot is not really supported in 11.1
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| 14:51 | i know suse but not kiwi
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| 14:51 | <Gadi1> are you using ltsp?
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| 14:51 | <nicros> not right now
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| 14:51 | <etyack> is there a way to limit the password attempts to 1 when using ldm?
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| 14:51 | <Gadi1> etyack: should be default these days
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| 14:52 | etyack: if not, then: echo "NumberOfPasswordPrompts 1" >>/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_config
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| 14:53 | <etyack> Gadi1: did that
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| 14:53 | <nicros> i was reading about 'Local Apps', can that be used to run everything on the clients?
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| 14:53 | <etyack> Gadi1: could be related to likewise-open/ad auth on server
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| 14:53 | <Gadi1> etyack: ah, yes you dont have pam configured for one password
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| 14:54 | nicros: a few problems that you may have is that kiwi-ltsp is not 100% upstream
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| 14:54 | <Gadi1> and does not use upstream's plugin system for ltsp-build-client
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| 14:55 | otherwise, you could work from ubuntu's fat client plugin
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| 14:55 | <Gadi1> and make changes suitable to suse
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| 14:55 | <Gadi1> another issue is nobody's bothered with aoe
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| 14:55 | in ltsp
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| 14:55 | as of yet
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| 14:56 | <nicros> o.k. maybe i'll just try replacing nfsroot with aoe
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| 14:56 | <Gadi1> so, if that's a hard requirement, you need to make sure suse's initramfs can mount a rootfs that way
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| 14:56 | <nicros> or iSCSI
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| 14:58 | <FuriousGeorge> hey all\
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| 14:59 | what kind of VLC type program do we use with ltsp (I'm using the kubuntu version, if it matters).
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| 14:59 | **VNC, I meant. and would that be a "new session" type of VNC or would it be to use an existing session
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| 15:01 | <Gadi1> FuriousGeorge: many people use italc
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| 15:01 | <FuriousGeorge> Gadi1: thanks... would that be to run an existing session, or would it start a new one?
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| 15:01 | <Gadi1> to control existing ones - though, I think there is a capability to start a new one and have everybody tune into it
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| 15:02 | its made with classrooms in mind
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| 15:02 | * Gadi1 has never set it up | |
| 15:02 | <Gadi1> but, other have
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| 15:02 | *others
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| 15:02 | do a search on "italc ltsp"
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| 15:02 | <FuriousGeorge> Gadi1: thanks, i just found some good docs
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| 15:06 | <nicros> so with kiwi/ltsp and using 'Local Apps' could i run our application and have it use the clients cpu/memory?
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| 15:07 | and have everything else running on the server
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| 15:08 | <etyack> nicros: yes.
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| 15:10 | <Gadi1> nicros: just install the application in the client image /opt/ltsp/i386/.... and then you can make a launcher: ltsp-localapps myProgram
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| 15:10 | <nicros> what kind of specs would i need on my server if i have 10 clients running opensuse 11.1 with a light weight desktop like ION or IceWM, just a ballpark figure.
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| 15:10 | <Gadi1> and it will run locally
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| 15:10 | <nicros> server OS will be SLES 10
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| 15:10 | * Gadi1 would guess 1.5-2G RAM | |
| 15:10 | <mushroomblue> is it possible to get a full XFCE desktop with terminal services/rdesktop support in under 128MB?
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| 15:10 | like, a bootable image.
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| 15:11 | perhaps I should say "has anyone done it before?"
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| 15:15 | <vagrantc> hrm. trying to add users to fuse with pam_group on a lenny server, and the configuration looks identical to the etch server ... but not working ...
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| 15:16 | <nicros> Thanks for the help, i've got some work ahead of me :)
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| 15:20 | mushroomblue : i was able to get opensuse 10.3 with ION-3 under 200 megs or ram.
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| 15:20 | <mushroomblue> hrm. I hadn't thought of Ion.
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| 15:20 | <nicros> it has a smaller footprint than IceWM or XFCE
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| 15:21 | it's keyboard based which works really well in our application.
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| 15:21 | <johnny> well.. most people don't really use ltsp thatway..
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| 15:21 | in fact.. it's hard to even call it ltsp anymore..
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| 15:22 | that's just standard netboot that people do all the time
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| 15:54 | <vagrantc> nicros: ION-3 was my favorite window manager until upstream made it non-free software.
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| 16:07 | <Psifidotos> hello everybody....
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| 16:07 | can I make a question?
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| 16:08 | <vagrantc> !question
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| 16:08 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "question" is if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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| 16:10 | <nicros> vagrantc : ION-3 isn't free anymore?
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| 16:11 | <Psifidotos> question , I use opensuse 11.1 with kiwi-ltsp, the use case is that when i insert a usb stick in a client machine, the usb stick is found and mounted but no greek characters are recognized for file names and directories...
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| 16:12 | <vagrantc> nicros: upstream put restrictions on the license requiring updating to the current version
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| 16:12 | <nicros> o.k.
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> Psifidotos: should be fixed with ltspfs 0.5.9 ... not sure what version ships with opensuse
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| 16:14 | <Psifidotos> ok, thank u very much vagrantic
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| 16:18 | <nicros> anyone here familiar with AoE?
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| 16:19 | crap, sorry, missed a step, i need to use mke2fs to create my file system.
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| 16:21 | <Psifidotos> question , any idea how I can check my ltspfs version?
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| 16:21 | <johnny> Psifidotos, whatever they do on suse? yast?
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| 16:21 | zypper? not sure these days
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| 16:21 | zypper or rpm..
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| 16:22 | <vagrantc> also be sure to check the version of ltspfsd in the chroot
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| 16:22 | <Psifidotos> oh, ok it's an individual package... I'll find it...
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| 16:23 | thank u johnny...
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| 20:50 | * stgraber plays with heavy localapps on an Intel classmate | |
| 20:50 | <stgraber> that beast is not bad at all as a thin client
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| 21:01 | <stgraber> http://www.stgraber.org/download/ldm_16-9.jpg <-- That'll probably be ldm's look in Ubuntu Jaunty
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| 22:45 | <stgraber> Gadi2: ping
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| 22:45 | root@ltsp1192:/lib/udev/rules.d# /lib/udev/ltspfs_entry add /dev/sdc
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| 22:45 | export: 259: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic_USB_SD_Reader_058F312D81B-0:0: bad variable name
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| 22:50 | <cyberorg> johnny, these days we do all of yast, zypper, rpm :)
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| 22:50 | <cyberorg> and even web ;) http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.1&p=1&q=ltspfs
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| 22:58 | <cyberorg> stgraber, looks great :)
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| 22:58 | * cyberorg thinks of using the green version of it for suse | |
| 23:17 | <stgraber> Gadi2: pushed my hack to ltspfs-trunk but we really should implement that in a safer way
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| 23:37 | <stgraber> ogra: when you have a minute, can you look at that ltspfs bug ? Looks like something changed in gnome's detection of mountpoint in /media and broke ltspfs
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