IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 13 January 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:21 | * vagrantc is feeling happy to be done working for the week and slightly drunk | |
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| 00:22 | <mathesis> hi vagrantc
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| 00:24 | <mathesis> Sysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.18-3-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 648 MHz (1297 bogomips), , RAM: 176/186MB, 82 proc's, 5.34min up
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| 01:41 | <cousinbeppe> hi!
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| 02:40 | <cousinbeppe^> hi
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| 05:06 | <krinns> hi all
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| 05:24 | <krinns> i have itsp installed on unbuntu
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| 05:24 | its all good
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| 05:24 | i have one laserjet hp 1022 printer
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| 05:24 | it prints very slow
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| 05:24 | and at time get paused
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| 05:24 | any idea
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| 06:08 | <budgee> anyone awake?
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| 09:34 | <budgee> hellllooooooooooo! someone be awake please?
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| 09:34 | <budgee> well, someone familiar with the LBE
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| 09:35 | if not, then, enjoy the kip
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| 10:21 | <s4ck> hola
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| 12:02 | <J45p3r> cliebow:ping
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| 12:02 | if you see this, I fixed the dgbypass and have it working, had to manually edit the dansguardianf1.conf file manually
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| 13:26 | <mistik1> !seen jammmcq
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| 13:26 | <ltspbot> mistik1: I have not seen jammmcq.
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| 13:26 | <mistik1> !seen jammcq
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| 13:26 | <ltspbot> mistik1: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 15 hours, 37 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <jammcq> cool
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| 14:17 | <budgee> !seen dberkholz
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| 14:17 | <ltspbot> budgee: dberkholz was last seen in #ltsp 2 days, 22 hours, 4 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <dberkholz> budgee: i'm here
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| 14:18 | <budgee> !seen envite
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| 14:18 | <ltspbot> budgee: envite was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Envite> bye all!
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| 15:25 | <cliebow> j45p3r: cool...any mystery to getting web proxy running?
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| 15:25 | <J45p3r> no, it's done through the gui
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| 15:25 | couple checkboxes
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| 15:26 | <irule> hi
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| 15:27 | hi there
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| 15:27 | are there simple squid examples for a small school?
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| 15:27 | <cliebow> i musta missed em
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| 15:28 | irule: we just use smoothwall in a lot of places
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| 15:28 | <J45p3r> yea, under the services > web proxy tab, check transparent and enabled
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| 15:29 | <cliebow> k
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| 15:29 | <J45p3r> headed out for the evening, chat w/ you later
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| 15:29 | <cliebow> Coolio
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| 15:30 | balls..locked myself out...ill fix that via nx
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| 15:31 | whhoops..cant
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| 15:34 | <J45p3r> you can mess with the one on the bench if you want 10.10.0.103
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| 15:35 | if you vnc to that address you get port forwarded to an XP machine on the green side to test the filter with (10.50.255.253)
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| 15:44 | <cliebow> \i might take a look
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| 17:30 | <mistik1> Its about time I get off my butt and gentoo-ize the ltspadmin and ltspcfg scripts
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| 17:31 | <vagrantc> mistik1: rather than porting ltsp 5.0 to gentoo ?
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| 17:31 | we need some ltspadmin/ltspcfg-like scripts for ltsp 5.0
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| 17:31 | <mistik1> I will be doing the soon enough
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| 17:32 | <vagrantc> ah, good.
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| 17:35 | <rjune> mistik1 !
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| 17:35 | <mistik1> that should be quite easy with gentoo
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| 17:35 | rjune: sup bro
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| 17:35 | <rjune> namuch
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| 17:36 | <mistik1> vagrantc: the problem is I have 2 clients right now that are deployed on gentoo and I get tired doing all the easy stuff by hand ;-)
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| 17:40 | what I need first is to make ebuilds for the ltsp specific tools
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| 17:41 | vagrantc: You would with the ltsp5 implimentation on ubuntu, yes?
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| 17:41 | s/would/work/
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| 17:41 | <vagrantc> mistik1: more debian. but i work closely with ogra, who does ubuntu.
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| 17:41 | <mistik1> ok
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| 17:42 | Maybe you guys could help me get my head back around ltsp core
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| 17:42 | <vagrantc> sure. dberkholz has also expressed interest on ltsp5.0 for gentoo
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| 18:02 | <mistik1> cool
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| 18:02 | I'm gonna get on it asap
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| 18:02 | downloading a stage tarball to get started later
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| 18:32 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 18:34 | <dberkholz> mistik1: yeah, we're already working on much of it
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| 18:34 | <jammcq> had a damned switch failure here at home today
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| 18:35 | <dberkholz> mistik1: dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/ltsp/ has some of my work. the Gentoo/ directory is for the client builder, and ltsp.txt is some notes on what needs to happen but not that current anymore.
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| 18:36 | mistik1: the main thing that it seems like nobody's doing yet is porting the init scripts over.
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| 18:38 | mistik1: i've got an ltspfs ebuild in my overlay
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| 18:38 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i started working on splitting up the init script bits into a plugin system.
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| 18:38 | <dberkholz> oh, cool
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| 18:38 | we'll be able to use a lot of the code, but we'll need to wrap it in our dependency-based script
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| 18:39 | mistik1: oh yeah, and lsb-release is packaged now as well
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| 18:40 | jammcq: btw, i just wrote an ltsp5 / gentoo article for this week's lwn.
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| 18:40 | jammcq: dunno whether you keep track of publicity and such
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| 18:40 | <jammcq> oooh, cool
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| 18:40 | <dberkholz> it came out last wednesday
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| 18:41 | * jammcq needs to renew his LWN subscription | |
| 18:41 | <mistik1> dberkholz: this is great news, I look forward to working with you on this
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| 18:41 | <dberkholz> mistik1: pioto's also working on making a real build system so we can just do a 'make; make install' for the ltsp core
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| 18:41 | <jammcq> dberkholz: there's a "Articles about LTSP" link on the ltsp wiki
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| 18:41 | <mistik1> I've been after doing the gentoo porting of ltsp but life did not let me get away with doing anything as yet
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| 18:42 | <dberkholz> not sure where things stand on that front
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| 18:42 | <mistik1> dberkholz: why would another build system be needed outside of portage to get any of it done?
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| 18:42 | <dberkholz> mistik1: so we don't need to duplicate the same 500 lines of crap in every distribution that packages it
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| 18:43 | "put file X from here to there" etc
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| 18:44 | <mistik1> hmm
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| 18:44 | <dberkholz> centralize the complexity
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| 18:45 | <mistik1> dberkholz: I'll reserve any further comment untill after i've had a chance to review what's been done to date
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| 18:45 | until even
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| 18:45 | <dberkholz> most of the time i've spent on it has been learning how ltsp works, not actually doing any porting.
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| 18:46 | <mistik1> ok
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| 18:46 | <dberkholz> basically 3 things to do -- the client-builder plugins, the init scripts, and packaging a few other things like ltspfs, lsb-release, etc.
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| 18:47 | the first and third are under way, i've tried to talk 2 people into doing the second and never seen anything
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| 18:48 | it may be that i'll end up doing that too, as soon as i get the client-builder finished
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| 18:49 | i've been sidetracked by a number of other projects, writing, and my real job over the past couple of months
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| 18:53 | <mistik1> dberkholz: It will take a few days to review all this
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| 18:54 | When I looked at what debian/Ubuntu were doing with that build system it made me think, there is no need to replicate this for gentoo but I could be wrong
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| 18:54 | <dberkholz> mistik1: i just queried you a link to the gentoo/ltsp story.
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| 18:54 | it won't be publicly available for another few days
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| 18:55 | <mistik1> I see it thanks
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| 18:55 | <dberkholz> even if the content isn't that new, there are a number of useful links in it
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| 18:58 | <vagrantc> mistik1: i'm curious what exactly you're talking about the debian/ubuntu "build system" ?
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| 19:00 | <mistik1> I dont remember his name now but a fellow was working on a draft of how debian would handle ltsp in thier distro in the future
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| 19:00 | Was that you?
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| 19:00 | maybe it was ogra
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| 19:01 | <vagrantc> well, i've been the most active personworking on ltsp in debian for the last 7 or so months ...
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| 19:02 | and i've written some things describing how it works
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| 19:02 | <mistik1> vagrantc: were you also working with the Splashy authors?
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| 19:02 | <vagrantc> mistik1: not directly... though maybe there is some overlap
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| 19:03 | * vagrantc is very interested in what people are saying about how ltsp will be working in debian in the future :) | |
| 19:03 | <vagrantc> oh, yes. otavio salvador works on ltsp and splashy
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| 19:04 | <mistik1> THAT'S who it was
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| 19:04 | Otavio
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| 19:04 | gosh have I really been away that long ;-)
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| 19:05 | <vagrantc> otavio did the bulk of the work on the plugins system we use for ltsp-build-client
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| 19:08 | <mistik1> bbiaf guys
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| 19:08 | <jamil1> vagrantc: hi!!
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| 19:09 | <vagrantc> jamil1: hi. how goes?
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| 19:09 | jamil1 is now known as mathesis | |
| 19:09 | <mathesis> good
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| 19:10 | vagrantc: como esta el soporte para Local Device Acces en muekow?
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| 19:10 | <vagrantc> mathesis: yo trato :)
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| 19:11 | <mathesis> vagrantc:ahora tengo 2 pcs mas
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| 19:12 | yo quiero instalar ltsp4.2
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| 19:12 | y ltspfs
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> yo no conozco ltsp 4.2 , solo 5.0/muekow
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| 19:13 | <mathesis> ya me lo habias dicho
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| 19:13 | si me recuerdas
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| 19:13 | soy de mexico
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| 19:55 | <daniQ> cliebow? have you checked your e-mail?
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| 20:01 | <cliebow> i will
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| 20:02 | daniQ:dont see anythig from you
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| 20:02 | <daniQ> swhgardens
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| 20:03 | <cliebow> no! cliebow@ltsp.org?
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| 20:03 | <daniQ> yes
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| 20:04 | <cliebow> hmmm.jammcq had some sort of meltdown today..
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| 20:04 | <daniQ> paypal?
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| 20:04 | there should be something there?
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| 20:04 | <cliebow> try at midmaine.com
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| 20:05 | dont see anything ftom ltsp.org
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| 20:05 | be back in 10
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| 20:05 | <daniQ> k
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| 20:07 | <cliebow> put the burhers on..
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| 20:07 | daniQ:/burhers/burgers/g
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| 20:08 | <daniQ> bug/14911 is bug that is affecting me
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| 20:09 | <cliebow> ahhh.ill look
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| 20:09 | <daniQ> i tried to set up a dialogue window can you see it?
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| 20:09 | it is cliebow
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| 20:11 | <cliebow> hmm..prob you havnt validated your NICK
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| 20:13 | <daniQ> i went to your name...right clicked and selected open dialogue window
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| 20:16 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286069&highlight=firefox+crash
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| 20:23 | <cliebow> i opened one for me..seemed ok..you need to /NICK IDENTIFY
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| 20:25 | <dberkholz> heh
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| 20:25 | <daniQ> is that in the input box under Nick Completion...
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| 20:25 | <cliebow> daniQ:did you try it??
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| 20:26 | err not sire
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| 20:26 | <dberkholz> i think /msg nickserv identify is what you want.
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| 20:26 | unless you're trying to change your nick to 'identify'
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| 20:26 | <cliebow> dbekholz:much obliged!
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| 20:27 | <dberkholz> cliebow: your client not have nick tab completion?
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| 20:27 | <cliebow> i was thinking out loud..fuzzy as usual
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| 20:27 | just xchat
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| 20:27 | <daniQ> where to i type this...is it under settings or something else....i'm flying bline
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| 20:27 | blind
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| 20:27 | <dberkholz> cliebow: xchat has that .. i'm saying this because you misspelled mine
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| 20:27 | <cliebow> me...misspell??
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| 20:28 | <dberkholz> but db<tab> solves that problem
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| 20:28 | <cliebow> ahh1
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| 20:29 | <cliebow> dberkholz:cool..now i can misspell in triplicate
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| 20:30 | daniq:did you try to edit that file?
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| 20:30 | <daniQ> i am lost
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| 20:30 | <cliebow> /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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| 20:31 | <daniQ> permission denied
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| 20:31 | <cliebow> sudo?
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| 20:31 | my dear
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| 20:32 | 8~)
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| 20:32 | <daniQ> permission denied with sudo
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| 20:33 | <cliebow> that is wierd
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| 20:33 | sudo cat /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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| 20:34 | <daniQ> i typed sudo /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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| 20:35 | <cliebow> sudo vim /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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| 20:35 | <daniQ> the cat one worked...auto and esd involve the use of esddsp = buggy = unstable firefox
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| 20:35 | <cliebow> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
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| 20:36 | add that line
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| 20:36 | <daniQ> see https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/29760
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| 20:36 | <cliebow> sudo /etc/firefox/firefoxrc..that asks to execute the file which is not executable
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| 20:36 | sudo vim /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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| 20:37 | asks to run vim on that file
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| 20:38 | press i to insert text
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| 20:38 | <daniQ> k
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| 20:38 | <cliebow> you are a trooper to stick with it
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| 20:39 | <daniQ> i'm going insaine and terrified that you didn't get the papypal stuff....ahhhhh
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| 20:39 | but there is always another day and what is the worst thing to happen
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| 20:40 | what should i put for text?
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| 20:40 | <cliebow> il check my paypal acct
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| 20:40 | <daniQ> i wish i were about a million times more computer skilled....i do love the puzzle though!
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| 20:40 | can i borrow your ubuntu book?
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| 20:40 | <cliebow> ohhhh.. rosannepouw@hotmail.com
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| 20:41 | cripes//it id in Dutch'
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| 20:41 | it is in Dutch'
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| 20:41 | <daniQ> dutch money?
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| 20:41 | <cliebow> 54.75
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| 20:41 | no ..the text
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| 20:41 | <daniQ> yes but in us $
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| 20:42 | oh yes she is from the Netherlands
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| 20:42 | <cliebow> yes
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| 20:42 | <daniQ> i feel SOOOO much better now!
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| 20:42 | <cliebow> in us#
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| 20:42 | <daniQ> all is well in the world
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| 20:42 | <cliebow> $
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| 20:42 | <daniQ> you rule!
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| 20:42 | <cliebow> o thought that was a bug report
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| 20:42 | <daniQ> so how do i continue to fix by diseased firefox
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| 20:44 | <cliebow> | |
| 20:44 | Babel Fish Translation Help
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| 20:44 | In English:
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| 20:44 | You have a payment not yet carried out!
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| 20:45 | <cliebow> Rosanne Pouw you have zojuist sent a payment by means of PayPal.
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| 20:45 | i will look
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| 20:45 | <daniQ> so it's in process?
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| 20:47 | <cliebow> i dont se any credit to my account
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| 20:49 | <daniQ> huh...maybe it takes a while and will be there by tomorrow.....i have no idea how that works
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| 20:49 | <cliebow> daniq: your email..ill forward the email
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| 20:49 | email it to me
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| 20:49 | <daniQ> i'll have to go to the microsoft side..i can't use my e-mail because of the firefox crashing
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| 20:49 | <cliebow> adelphia.com
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| 20:49 | ?
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| 20:50 | just go to #daniq
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| 20:51 | <cliebow> daniQ:/join 3daniq
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| 20:51 | balls!
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| 20:51 | daniq:/join #daniq
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| 20:51 | <daniQ> can you see me there?
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| 21:15 | <moquist> cliebow: several of us used "balls!" as our swear of choice during college...thanks for driving me to reminisce for a few moments here. :-)
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| 21:27 | <daniQ> ha!
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| 22:12 | <cliebow> moquist:..8~)\
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| 23:09 | <mistik1> vagrantc: you still up?
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| 23:10 | jammcq: ping
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| 23:16 | <jammcq> mistik1: hey
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| 23:22 | <mistik1> hey man
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| 23:23 | Where do I get the current ltsp tools
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| 23:23 | and daemons
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| 23:25 | <jammcq> umm
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| 23:26 | I think all the c code is in launchpad, ogra and vagrantc are using it
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| 23:26 | <vagrantc> mistik1: sure
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| 23:27 | * vagrantc looks for a URL | |
| 23:28 | * mistik1 has more to learn ;) | |
| 23:29 | * vagrantc struggles with twiki | |
| 23:30 | * jammcq is heading to bed | |
| 23:30 | <jammcq> ciao all
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| 23:30 | <vagrantc> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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| 23:30 | <mistik1> ciao
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| 23:30 | danke
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| 23:31 | vagrantc: tell me something with your methods here, how do you setup a i386 client root on a x86_64 server for example?
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc> mistik1: ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 23:32 | the other way around is pretty tricky, though.
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| 23:32 | <mistik1> ok
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| 23:33 | <vagrantc> usually, you need to build the chroot on a machine of the appropriate architecture.
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| 23:33 | <mistik1> vagrantc: what exactly does -arch i386 do?
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| 23:33 | <vagrantc> with gentoo, you might be able to do some sort of cross-arch building magic
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| 23:33 | <mistik1> All I would need to do is linux32 chroot /foo/bar
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| 23:34 | <vagrantc> mistik1: it tells the tools which architecture's packages to use to build the chroot
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| 23:34 | <mistik1> ahh, makes sense being a binary distro
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| 23:36 | <vagrantc> could you do that with a building a powerpc chroot on an i386 or x86_64 ?
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| 23:36 | <mistik1> not that i'm aware of
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| 23:37 | THen you would certainly need to cross compile
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| 23:37 | <vagrantc> right.
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| 23:37 | that would be pretty slick :)
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| 23:37 | * mistik1 groans | |
| 23:37 | <vagrantc> though i wouldn't want to spend too much time on that...
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| 23:38 | i know ogra worked on building pre-generated tarballs for cross-architecture support ... that's probably the simplest way to do it.
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| 23:42 | <mistik1> I think i'll sleep on this
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| 23:43 | All is posible with proper sleep
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| 23:46 | <vagrantc> yes, sleep. i should get me some of that myself.
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