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Channel log from 4 June 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:47 | <DaBowser> Hi everybody. I got a litte question about CUPS and printing on client machines.
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| 03:48 | I got a CUPS Server running (not my LTSP Server!) and configured /etc/cups/client.conf to use this one, but LTSP seems to overwrite this config on startup. How can I stop LTSP from doing this on startup?
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| 03:52 | <Drakonen> DaBowser: easy way i guess is to chmod -w it
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| 03:53 | <DaBowser> Done that already. :)
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| 03:54 | Didn't help. -r--r--r-- 1 root lp /etc/cups/client.conf. At startup it still get overwritten and then has -rw-r--r-- 1 root root /etc/cups/client.conf
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| 03:55 | <cyberorg> DaBowser, chattr -i it
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| 03:57 | <DaBowser> Ok, just a second for the image to build.
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| 03:59 | But still, I consider this a serious LTSP bug. I don't think its a good idea to always set the CUPS client to the LTSP Server
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| 04:02 | <Drakonen> DaBowser: cups can perfectly fine use an other cups server to forward to
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| 04:03 | <DaBowser> I know, thats what I am doing currently
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| 04:03 | <Drakonen> i set it up with yast, works fine
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| 04:04 | <DaBowser> Very strange, my client.conf got deleted now. But I didn't login in ldm yet.
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| 04:06 | <ogra> ltsp doesnt touch /etc/cups/client.conf and never did
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| 04:06 | <DaBowser> When I logged in with ldm the client.conf got created with my LTSP Server as ServerName.
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| 04:09 | Hmm, I checked the i386.img by mounting it and there the client.conf is correct.
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| 04:09 | <ogra> still, neither ldm nor ltsp modifies files on the server
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| 04:09 | thats a strict requirement
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| 04:09 | (in the user session or during login i mean)
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| 04:10 | there is a script in ldm that exports a printer variable to the users environment, but that wouldnt touch any files
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| 04:11 | if you clarly see the servers /etc/cups/client.conf being modified, thats a bug, file it in your distro
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| 04:12 | <DaBowser> Hmm, ok, I will file it to Debian.
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| 04:12 | <ogra> just to clearify, we are talking about the servers /etc/cups/client.conf not the clients, right ?
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| 04:13 | <DaBowser> No, the clients.
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| 04:13 | I need my local applications to be able to print as well. :)
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| 04:13 | <ogra> (you should say that :) )
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| 04:14 | <DaBowser> Oh, sorry. I thought I made that clear.
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| 04:14 | <ogra> right, then the default printing pool needs to be the server since the user will configure his printer there
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| 04:15 | (your session runs on the server, all gui tools will operate on the servers cups printing pool, the client side cups is a dumb forwarder)
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| 04:15 | so it does what its supposed to
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| 04:17 | <DaBowser> Not directely. I got a printserver configured (192.168.43.112:631) and I want my LTSP Server (192.168.43.120) and my Clients (192.168.42.xxx) to use this printserver.
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| 04:18 | <ogra> right, the clients have to go through the ltsp server
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| 04:19 | else you would have to configure it in two places manually and ltsp couldnt do any automatic config ... since you have apps running on the client directly as well as on the server in a desktop session
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| 04:19 | feel free to send patches to override the automatism :)
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| 04:19 | if you think thats valuable
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| 04:19 | <DaBowser> My LTSP Server is already using it.
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| 04:20 | <ogra> right, and your client should just forward everything to your ltsp server by default
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| 04:20 | so all your desktop apps see the same printer queue
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| 04:21 | <DaBowser> Oh, right, the printer queue. Thats a good Point.
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| 04:24 | <DaBowser> Hmm, ok, so, is it possible to have my LTSP Server use some other CUPS Server and forward print requests from the clients?
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| 04:24 | <ogra> sure, the server side cups should be normally configurable to point anywhere you want, it isnt touched by ltsp
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| 04:26 | <DaBowser> Ok, but I guess I need the cups daemon running for this, right?
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| 04:26 | <ogra> indeed
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| 05:49 | <DaBowser> It worked. Thanks... now I can print from my clients and my Server. :)
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| 05:56 | <seeberg> Hi, how do I run dmesg on a thin client
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| 05:57 | <DaBowser> With localapps use "ltsp-localapps xterm" to run xterm on your local client. From there you can run dmesg.
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| 06:02 | <alkisg> seeberg: which distro/version?
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| 06:12 | <seeberg> skolelinux 3.01 etch based ltsp5.0
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| 06:13 | <alkisg> Does that have localapps support? I don't think it's recent enough to have localapps...
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| 06:14 | I think you can get a local terminal by putting SCREEN_02=shell and SCREEN_07=ldm in lts.conf
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| 06:16 | <seeberg> thank you I'll try both
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| 06:28 | <Shane_> Am I going mad? (Rhetorical answers only please!)When thin clients are shut down they reach theINIT: no more processes left in this runlevelline onscreen, but do not power down.I glanced through the greeter.c source code and found the command used is "halt -p" which when used on the command line gives the same end result (no power down).However if IClick "Preferences" | "Shutdown" and repeat almost immediatelyon the ldm screen or runhalt -p && sleep 5 &
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| 06:28 | nltsp-localapps "halt -p && sleep 5 && halt -p"from a session console (within KDE) the client shuts down and powers off as I would like it to.I am using LTSP5 on Gentoo.
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| 06:29 | <ogra> it should do poweroff -fp
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| 06:29 | which shuts down immediately
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| 06:30 | i think fedora changed the code in ldm because they thought it would be a clever idea to call the initscripts ... sadly they ignored that your rootfs of the client gets unmounted before the last script is called
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| 06:31 | it needs to be changed back
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| 06:32 | * cyberorg patches poweroff to unmount stuff mounted from server and run poweroff -fp on suse | |
| 06:32 | <ogra> there shouldnt be anything mounted
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| 06:33 | <cyberorg> ogra, localapps mounts stuff?
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| 06:33 | <ogra> if you logged out (which is the only way to get to the GUI option) the sshfs mount is dropped already
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| 06:33 | <cyberorg> ah then it does not matter :)
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| 06:34 | <ogra> right
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| 06:35 | <Shane_> Thanks I'll give that a try.
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| 06:38 | <Shane_> Yep, that worked fine.
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| 06:38 | Thanks for the help.
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| 07:04 | <pmatulis_> in what ubuntu release did ltsp5 (muekow) first appear?
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| 07:11 | <pmatulis_> k, 5.10
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| 09:44 | <manu_ubu> hi, I have a question, the nbd swap port tcp by default is it 9572 or 9210 ?
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| 09:45 | in my log I have this two tcp port in ethernet capture
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| 09:45 | ?
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| 09:46 | <alkisg> grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
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| 09:47 | Mine (jaunty) has 9572
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| 09:48 | <manu_ubu> in /etc/inetd.conf I have 9572 but in ethernet capture I have a request to the tcp port 921O ??
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| 09:49 | is it a history request by ltsp client 4.x ?
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| 09:51 | http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspPorts
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| 09:51 | it's "bizarre" ;)
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> In the source, I see 9210 in: ALTLinux folder, nbdswapd.8 (the man page), and server/doc/swap (docs).
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| 09:55 | In the scripts 9572 is actually used
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| 09:55 | So maybe 9210 was used in some previous versions, I don't know, I'm rather new to LTSP
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| 10:02 | <manu_ubu> yes the 9210 was used in ltsp 4.x but I don't understand why it's activated in ltsp 5.x ?
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| 10:05 | <alkisg> Is the port actually used on the server, or you just see the clients' requests on the logs?
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| 10:22 | <manu_ubu> it's just client's request it's just for information for make ACL on the router
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| 11:43 | <f13_> Hi people. Is there any tip to useb EPSON printer LX-300 on ltsp5 (ubuntu)?
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| 12:02 | <Blinny> f13_: If Epson provides .ppd files on their website, I'd suggest using them.
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| 12:38 | <bieb> sbalneav: you here today?
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> bieb: Yes
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| 12:42 | <bieb> if I want to put shortcuts on the desktop for all the users.. do I put them on the admin desktop? then is there something after that? like an image update?
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| 12:42 | <NeonLicht> admin desktop? you mean running X as root?
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| 12:43 | <bieb> not as root.. as the first user in Ubuntu.. but for ease of asking I consider him the admin
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| 12:43 | <sbalneav> bieb: The way you're supposed to do that is to use sabayon, but it's rather broken in most distro's, owing to the fact that it's broken upstream.
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| 12:44 | <bieb> ohh
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| 12:44 | <sbalneav> Rather than put icons on the desktop, I'd simply create your own custom menus
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| 12:44 | One with the name of your organization
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| 12:45 | <bieb> got a link to the how-to for that?
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| 12:45 | <sbalneav> then, users can either place icons on the desktop, or on the taskbar, depending on what they want.
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| 12:45 | What distro are you running?
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| 12:46 | <bieb> ubuntu 9.04
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| 12:47 | <stgraber> sbalneav: ping
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| 12:48 | <sbalneav> stgraber: yo
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| 12:48 | <stgraber> sbalneav: http://paste.ubuntu.com/188432/
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| 12:48 | <sbalneav> bieb hold on, looking
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| 12:48 | <stgraber> sbalneav: I have that on logout
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| 12:48 | <bieb> thanks
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| 12:48 | <stgraber> so basically ssh goes defunct and the session is stuck
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| 12:49 | ogra said it happens 9 out of 10 times during his tests
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| 12:49 | <sbalneav> odd
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| 12:49 | <stgraber> and I reproduced 2/2 so far at the office
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| 12:49 | <sbalneav> like I say, I've got it running on a modified hardy tree.
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| 12:50 | I'll have to get something setup for karmic.
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| 12:50 | Are there daily builds yet?
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| 12:51 | stgraber: anything in ldm.log?
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| 12:52 | <stgraber> btw, that's on jaunty and I have it packaged in my PPA if you want to test
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| 12:53 | sbalneav: http://paste.ubuntu.com/188434/
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| 12:54 | <sbalneav> Hmm, the exit's hanging up.
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| 12:56 | * vagrantc sees the future of 2.0.43 is very near | |
| 12:56 | <sbalneav> Well, or just strip out my patch, if it makes everyone feel better.
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| 12:57 | <stgraber> nah, I want the fix :)
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| 12:57 | (just not the side effect)
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| 12:57 | <vagrantc> yeah, it's definitely something nice to fix.
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| 12:58 | was alkisg's patch insufficient? it seemed smaller, if nothing else.
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| 12:58 | <sbalneav> it didn't solve my logout problem on hardy
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| 12:59 | <alkisg> sbalneav: the code changed much since hardy...
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| 12:59 | <sbalneav> ok, so then *just back out my patch*, I don't care.
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| 12:59 | <alkisg> I've tried it with intrepid, while experiencing the bug with 80% probability, and worked fine for weeks after the patch
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| 13:00 | sbalneav: hey man don't misunderstand me :) I'm just saying my experience with it.
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| 13:11 | <bieb1> sbalneav: sorry.. got dropped
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| 13:11 | <alkisg> sbalneav: I've had a similar ldm logout problem in hardy, which was fixed last Autumn by an additional "break" in ldm_wait... would you the version you're using contain that patch?
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| 13:12 | Ooops, "(08:59:00 μμ) alkisg: I've tried it with intrepid, while experiencing the bug with 80% probability, and worked fine for weeks after the patch" ==> I meant I've tried it with jaunty
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| 13:13 | <sbalneav> alkisg: no idea.
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| 13:13 | <alkisg> sbalneav: what version are you using now?
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| 13:13 | <sbalneav> My own.
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> Ok
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| 13:14 | <sbalneav> I've been maintaining a huge list of fixed bugs in hardy, since very few serious bugs ever seem to get fixed in an LTS release.
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| 13:14 | see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/268590 for a prime example.
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> sbalneav: if you could pastebot your version of ldm_wait, I think I'll remember if it had the bug or not
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| 13:15 | Yeah, I know the problem, that's why we've created a ppa just for greek schools and put whatever updates are necessary there...
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| 13:16 | <sbalneav> I'm home sick today, and not at work.
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> (mostly copied from stgraber's ppa after some testing)
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| 13:16 | I hope you get well soon man. :)
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| 13:16 | <sbalneav> Just a headcold.
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| 13:17 | But thanks.
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| 13:33 | <bieb1> sbalneav: were you able to find the link for creating the menu?
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| 13:38 | <sbalneav> bieb1: no got sidetracked
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| 13:39 | <bieb1> k
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> bieb1: you could right click on the desktop and create a launcher (=.desktop file) and put it in /usr/share/applications (if I got your question right)
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| 13:39 | <sbalneav> But the administrators guide on gnome.org has instructions.
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| 13:39 | <bieb1> k thanks
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| 13:44 | <stgraber> sbalneav: anything that you'd need to debug that ldm logout thing ?
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| 13:45 | <Lns> Hey I got a question for localapps - is it possible to provide locally installed apps for some users and/or clients and not others?
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> Lns: per client, yes
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| 13:50 | look at: LOCAL_APPS_DENY
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| 13:50 | I believe
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| 13:50 | <Lns> Gadi: thanks!
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> you can itemize by local app name
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| 13:51 | <Lns> Gadi: is there any doc for this?
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| 13:54 | <Gadi> lol
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| 13:54 | lns: ur funny
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| 13:54 | <Lns> ;)
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| 13:55 | and the "hidden" lts.conf values continue... =)
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| 13:56 | * Lns should write a script to parse the code every so often and post all variables on a wiki | |
| 13:56 | <Gadi> ah, its actually
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| 13:56 | LOCAL_APPS_WHITELIST
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> Lns: zcat /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/lts-parameters.txt.gz|less
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> space-separated
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| 13:57 | <alkisg> Someone of our good devs actually documented it :)
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> really? must have been bored
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| 13:57 | :)
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| 13:57 | <Lns> =p
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> (newbie shell question) Gadi, is this syntax normal or am I doing something wrong? `if ! mktemp /tmp/testXXXX 2>/dev/null; then echo problem; fi`
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| 14:01 | <Gadi> without the backticks, looks fine
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> I'm worried about the lack of parenthesis, and the 2>/dev/null..
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| 14:01 | Ty! :)
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| 14:01 | <Gadi> parentheses indicate a subshell
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| 14:01 | not needed here
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| 14:02 | since you arent collecting stdout for your eval
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> It's on a function, I'm ok with the stdout
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| 14:02 | Argh I can't say "parentheses", the plural is "parenthesis" :D
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| 14:06 | <sbalneav> stgraber: I've downloaded a karmic daily build.
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| 14:06 | I'm working on it now.
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| 14:08 | <stgraber> sbalneav: Karmic is not so much of a good idea as you can't boot a thin client yet
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| 14:09 | sbalneav: using jaunty should be a lot easier using my PPA which contains a backport of what's in Karmic
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| 14:09 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 14:12 | <stgraber> sbalneav: http://paste.ubuntu.com/188508/
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| 14:12 | sbalneav: extended log file
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| 14:12 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/188509/ that's what was used to generate it
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| 14:13 | <Gadi> whats with the french eater?
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| 14:13 | :)
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| 14:19 | <Lns> alkisg: unfortunately lts-parameters.txt.gz doesn't have anything about white/blacklists w/localapps :(
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| 14:19 | not in ibex anyway
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| 14:20 | <ltsppbot> "alkisg" pasted "lts-parameters.txt from Jaunty for Lns" (234 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/366
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| 14:21 | <Lns> alkisg: woah that's more than i've got =)
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| 14:30 | <Lns> What would be cool is to have a spreadsheet or something that shows which lts.conf options are available in which versions of LTSP (and then easily translatable to different distributions' versions)
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| 14:31 | is there anything like that already?
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| 15:06 | <stgraber> sbalneav: could you reproduce it ?
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| 16:58 | <Lns> If anyone is interested, I made a presentation attempting to explain what I see as the benefits of LTSP here: http://logicalnetworking.net/services/LTSP-Presentation.pdf
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| 22:02 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: status
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| 22:02 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: I am connected to freenode as ltspbot.
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| 22:02 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:02 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:02 | <sbalneav> hmm
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| 22:02 | !seen jammcq
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| 22:02 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 5 hours, 30 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <jammcq> drive safe
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| 22:02 | <sbalneav> !ltsp
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| 22:02 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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| 22:03 | <sbalneav> Just upgraded my home machine from hardy to jaunty
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| 22:03 | drevil seems to be sick.
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| 22:03 | !pastebot
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| 22:03 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "pastebot" is not a valid command.
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| 22:04 | <sbalneav> !learn
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| 22:04 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "learn" is not a valid command.
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| 22:04 | <Ryan52> you broke it :P
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| 22:07 | <sbalneav> *I* didn't break it.
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| 22:11 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:11 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:11 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: docs?
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| 22:11 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs?" is not a valid command.
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| 22:11 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: docs
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| 22:11 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:12 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: list Factoids
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| 22:12 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: 'Factoids' is not a valid plugin.
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| 22:12 | <sbalneav> Well, I'd say thats the problem :)
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| 22:15 | ltspbot: list
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| 22:15 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Google, Internet, Misc, Owner, Seen, Status, and User
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| 22:16 | <sbalneav> lol
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| 22:16 | every freaking plugin BUT factoids
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| 22:16 | ltspbot: google supybot
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| 22:16 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Search took 0.15 seconds: SourceForge.net: Supybot: <http://supybot.com/>; Supybot Commands Index: <http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/commands.html>; Supybot: <http://www.ohloh.net/p/supybot>; Supybot | freshmeat.net: <http://freshmeat.net/projects/supybot/>; Supybot version 0.83.3 - How to Download and Install on Mac OS X: <http://supybot.darwinports.com/>; Gentoo Packages (2 more messages)
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| 22:20 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:20 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:20 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: list
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| 22:20 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Google, Internet, Misc, Owner, Seen, Status, and User
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| 22:22 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:22 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:23 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: list
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Factoids, Google, Internet, Misc, Owner, Seen, Status, and User
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| 22:23 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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| 22:23 | <sbalneav> hm, factoids is THERE now.
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| 22:23 | ltspbot: factoids list
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: The "Factoids" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it. Try "list Factoids" to see the commands in the "Factoids" plugin.
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| 22:23 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: list Factoids
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis
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| 22:23 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:23 | <Ryan52> ltspbot: random
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| 22:23 | <ltspbot> Ryan52: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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| 22:24 | * Ryan52 thinks sbalneav should look at teh logs | |
| 22:24 | <sbalneav> Thanks captain obvious, I *HAVE* been looking there.
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| 22:25 | AttributeError: 'Factoids' object has no attribute 'dbCache'
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| 22:26 | <ryan52_> hm...my irssi froze or something.
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| 22:26 | sbalneav: so it isn't logging anything?
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| 22:26 | ltspbot: lier! :P
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| 22:26 | <ltspbot> ryan52_: Error: "lier!" is not a valid command.
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| 22:28 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn foop as foop foop de doop
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| 22:28 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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| 22:28 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 22:28 | <sbalneav> Hello jammcq
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| 22:29 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn foop as foop fopp
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| 22:29 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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| 22:29 | <vagrantc> poor ltspbot
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| 22:29 | <jammcq> sbalneav: hey, you better contact the admin
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> maybe we can use ltspbot breaking now to not have to have an alien race come along and nearly wipe us out before we learn that robot servants lead us down a path where we fail to develop our mental faculties and become weak
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| 22:34 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn foo as bar
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| 22:34 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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| 22:34 | <jammcq> ltspbot: bar
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| 22:34 | <ltspbot> jammcq: Error: "bar" is not a valid command.
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| 22:34 | <jammcq> ltspbot: !bar
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| 22:34 | <ltspbot> jammcq: Error: "!bar" is not a valid command.
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| 22:35 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:35 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 22:35 | <jammcq> !bar
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| 22:35 | <ltspbot> jammcq: Error: "bar" is not a valid command.
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| 22:35 | <jammcq> pfff
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| 22:35 | dumb bot
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| 22:35 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn foo as bar
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| 22:35 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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| 22:35 | <sbalneav> !foo
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| 22:35 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "foo" is not a valid command.
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| 22:35 | <jammcq> bwahahahahahaha
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| 22:35 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: bar?
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| 22:35 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "bar?" is not a valid command.
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| 22:35 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: foo?
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| 22:36 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "foo?" is not a valid command.
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| 22:36 | <sbalneav> !info foo
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| 22:36 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Key "foo" is not locked and has 2 factoids associated with it: #1 was added by sbalneav at 10:34 PM, June 04, 2009; #2 was added by sbalneav at 10:35 PM, June 04, 2009
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| 22:36 | <jammcq> ltspbot: what is foo
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| 22:36 | <ltspbot> jammcq: Error: "what" is not a valid command.
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| 22:36 | <sbalneav> !whatis bar
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| 22:36 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: No factoid matches that key.
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| 22:36 | <sbalneav> !whatis foo
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| 22:36 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "foo" is (#1) bar, or (#2) bar
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| 22:36 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 22:37 | <jammcq> ltspbot: you suck
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| 22:37 | <ltspbot> jammcq: Error: "you" is not a valid command.
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| 22:37 | <jammcq> yousuck
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| 22:37 | <sbalneav> hold on. let me restore the old dp
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| 22:37 | db
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| 22:37 | <jammcq> heh
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| 22:37 | <sbalneav> !whatis docs
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| 22:37 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: No factoid matches that key.
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| 22:38 | <sbalneav> !random
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| 22:38 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "foo": bar; "foo": bar
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| 22:38 | <sbalneav> !random
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| 22:38 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "foo": bar; "foo": bar
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| 22:38 | <sbalneav> ok, so the old db's no longer valid.
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| 22:38 | old db is sqlite2
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| 22:38 | new db's sqlite3
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| 22:38 | I'll have to convert
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| 22:39 | ltspbot: learn foo as bar
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| 22:39 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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| 22:40 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: whatis docs
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| 22:40 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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| 22:41 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: learn foo as bar
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| 22:41 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
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| 22:47 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: whatis docs
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| 22:47 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 22:47 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 22:47 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 22:47 | <sbalneav> !random
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| 22:47 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "ltsp5": ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5; "tarball": http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions; "kiwi": http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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| 22:48 | <sbalneav> !pastebot
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| 22:48 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 22:49 | <sbalneav> okiedoke, had to patch supybot for a missing __init__, and update the factoids db to sqlite3
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| 22:51 | <jammcq> what is supybot written in?
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| 22:56 | <sbalneav> Python
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| 22:56 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 22:56 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'debian', 'download', 'monkeys', 'ogra', 'nfs', 'nfsnotresp', 'js', 's', 'troubleshooting', 'sbnet', 'paavum', 'bbq', 'guaraldo', 'nx', (1 more message)
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| 22:56 | <vagrantc> yay
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| 22:58 | !ver
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| 22:58 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
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| 23:22 | <sbalneav> Oh, this is just painful.
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| 23:23 | Upgrade to jaunty, now NONE of my games I like to play that relies on DRI works. No 3D. And I have an intel chipset.
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| 23:23 | fab. u. lous.
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| 23:24 | <vagrantc> ah, it's one of *those* sorts of days.
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| 23:27 | <sbalneav> Sigh. I'm heading to bed.
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| 23:27 | night all
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| 23:35 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: rest well!
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| 23:45 | <try2free> halo...
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| 23:47 | this one XINETD_SERVICES need xinetd to run?
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