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05:50 | <Pascal_1> bonjour
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06:29 | <KingstonAsus767> hello
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06:30 | I have a problem with ltsp in edubuntu 8.04
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06:30 | can anyone give some ideas?
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06:31 | I have installed edubuntu 8.04 in a greek classroom
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06:31 | and the problem is tha even though
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06:32 | the server supports fully greek
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06:32 | all the clients cannot change language between english-greek
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06:32 | strange thing is that: gdm appears in english
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06:33 | at all clients but in greek in the server
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06:33 | I have thought to downgrade in edubuntu 7.10
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06:33 | because I didn't have tha issue
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06:34 | any ideas ?
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06:53 | <happywithltsp> hi, I just finished installing LTSP via alternate CD for 64 architecture and need some help
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06:53 | I have done this before for Edubuntu 7.04, but things have changed quite a bit
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06:53 | Anyone willing to help for a few minutes?
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06:54 | Is Ogra around?
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06:54 | <laga> just ask a question :)
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06:54 | <happywithltsp> Sure here it goes
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06:55 | I used alternate CD for LTSP install on a 64bit machine
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06:55 | I want to use this for my lab, not just a classroom
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06:56 | my lab has multiple architectures, i386, 86=64 and PowerPC
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06:56 | My server has two nics
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06:56 | Both nics connect directly to Router
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06:57 | Actually through gigabit switch
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06:57 | all other machines connect in same manner via gigabit switch
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06:58 | I would like to have the option to either start all the machines as clients
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06:58 | but not as dedicated clients
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06:58 | in other words, I want the other machines to start other OS as a BIOS option
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06:59 | <laga> well, that should be possible. i guess they'll have a hard disk with that other OS
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06:59 | <happywithltsp> To test this on an i386
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06:59 | I did a "sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386"
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07:00 | but after I turn on the client machine I get the DHCP trying to connect, but it fails
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07:00 | First question:
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07:00 | <ogra> you cant connect both NICs to the same router
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07:01 | <happywithltsp> I see,
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07:01 | Should I just unplug one?
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07:01 | <ogra> also make sure to not have a second dhcpd running in your network
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07:01 | <happywithltsp> I can turn off the dhcp from the router
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07:02 | , but should I disconnect one of the nics from the network?
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07:03 | Or should I do a "Internet --- Router ---- LTSP Server ---- Switch ---- Other computers"
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07:04 | <ogra> right
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07:04 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, when is the meeting you need the praise for on the wiki ?
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07:05 | <happywithltsp_> Ok, I turned off the DCHP from the router
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07:05 | Let me try again
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07:05 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, also dont hesitate to ask cr3 for more, i guess he has some good words about your contributions
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07:06 | <laga> Q-FUNK: you applying for MOTU?
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07:06 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: I haven't scheduled myself yet.
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07:06 | <ogra> KingstonAsus767, 7.10 definately has that issue too, ldm (the display manager used for logins in ltsp) just got translated now
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07:06 | <Q-FUNK> laga: for ubuntu member.
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07:07 | <laga> nice.
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07:07 | i should do that, too.
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07:07 | <ogra> KingstonAsus767, translaed ldm wont be in ubuntu before 8.10
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07:07 | laga, !!!
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07:07 | you aent already ?
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07:07 | <laga> no
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07:07 | <ogra> *arent
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07:07 | tsk
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07:07 | * ogra shakes head | |
07:07 | <laga> well, it doesn't really have any advantages for me
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07:08 | <ogra> you can annunce your cool stuff on planet
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07:08 | have an ubuntu.com address
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07:08 | <Q-FUNK> these days, I spend more time on ubuntu that debian, so I figured that I might as well become a member.
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07:08 | <ogra> a cloak on IRC
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07:08 | etc
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07:09 | <laga> ogra: i already have a nice "cloak" and an email address ;)
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07:10 | that's why i haven't applied so far, but i guess i'll just do nit
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07:10 | <ogra> hey, and members get more hugs :)
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07:10 | <laga> heh
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07:10 | <ogra> that should be a definate reason
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07:11 | <laga> yay, geek hugs :)
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07:12 | * ogra grins about fedora copying andscape | |
07:12 | <ogra> *landscape
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07:13 | for the fact that "ubuntu doesnt give back" fedroda copies quite a lot of our concepts *g*
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07:13 | <Q-FUNK> *g*
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07:13 | I guess it's called "the GPL"
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07:14 | <laga> dear launchpad. please be more usable. love, laga
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07:14 | <ogra> well, landscape is a nonfree service canonical lives of
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07:14 | seems they grabbed the free parts of it and desiged their own backend
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07:17 | but it looks pretty identical
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07:17 | http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/
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07:17 | <Q-FUNK> heck, even the name as a soyuz sound to it
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07:17 | has..
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07:18 | <ogra> yeah, indeed
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07:41 | <KingstonAsus767> orga: thank you very much, does that include and the keyboard switching between greek-english?
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07:42 | ogra: thank you very much, does that include and the keyboard switching between greek-english?
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07:43 | <ogra> no, thats unrelated to UI translations
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07:43 | you should be able to add the right lts.conf values for that with the XKB_OPTIONS variable or so
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07:44 | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz has a list of valid variables
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07:46 | <KingstonAsus767> oh
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07:46 | I thing I tried
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07:46 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPClientKeymap
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07:47 | I tried instead of
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07:47 | de
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07:47 | to use
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07:47 | gr
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07:47 | or even
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07:47 | us.gr
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07:48 | but it didn't work
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07:48 | <ogra> well, gr should have worked
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07:49 | but not switchable without extra options indeed
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07:50 | <KingstonAsus767> for my X server
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07:50 | I use
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07:50 | Option "XkbLayout" "us,gr"
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07:51 | Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,eurosign:e"
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07:52 | <ogra> using: XKBLAYOUT="us,gr" XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,eurosign:e"
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07:52 | in lts.conf should help then
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07:53 | <KingstonAsus767> i see, dont I have to
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07:53 | update image or recreate the client?
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07:54 | <ogra> no
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07:54 | make sure to use lts.conf in the right place then you dont need to touch the image for changes in the config file
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07:54 | <KingstonAsus767> I thing that
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07:54 | <ogra> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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07:54 | <KingstonAsus767> "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf"
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07:54 | <ogra> if you keep the file there you dont need to update the image
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07:54 | <KingstonAsus767> is deprecated...
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07:55 | ohhhhhhhhh
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07:55 | perfect......
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07:55 | <ogra> well, you can use it, but its no fun ro re-roll the image for every minor change :)
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07:55 | so the tftpboot dir is the better option
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07:55 | <KingstonAsus767> yes I know.... , I have drunk many coffees until now... :)
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07:56 | ogra can I ask you one more thing?
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07:56 | I want all the clients
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07:56 | in resolution 800x600
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07:56 | because the monitors are old
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07:56 | anu tutorial online?
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07:57 | I cant hear my students, talling about their eyes anymore... :)
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07:57 | <ogra> X_MODE_0="800x600"
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07:57 | <KingstonAsus767> I cant hear my students, telling about their eyes anymore... :)
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07:57 | <ogra> should suffice
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07:57 | <KingstonAsus767> in the same file?
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07:58 | <ogra> try that in the default section of the file
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07:58 | yeah
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07:58 | <KingstonAsus767> oh.......
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07:58 | perfect...,
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07:58 | I have things to try on monday...
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07:58 | <ogra> note you need at least [default] t the top of the file for the vars to take effect
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07:58 | <KingstonAsus767> thank you very much ogra....
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07:58 | <ogra> i.e.:
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07:58 | [default]
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07:58 | X_MODE_0="800x600"
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07:59 | XKBLAYOUT="us,gr"
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07:59 | XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,eurosign:e"
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07:59 | like that
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07:59 | this will then apply to all clients
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07:59 | <KingstonAsus767> perfect....
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07:59 | so to understand in general
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07:59 | "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf"
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07:59 | overrides the default variables ?
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07:59 | for the clients?
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07:59 | <ogra> if you want seztings for a single client add a section below with the MAC address in angled brackets (just like the default section)
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08:00 | right
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08:00 | <KingstonAsus767> perfect....
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08:00 | ltsp is fantastic software....
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08:00 | <ogra> :)
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08:01 | <KingstonAsus767> my manager when he heard that he doesnt have to replace 10 old
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08:01 | machines....
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08:01 | he had a smile bigger that his face... :)
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08:03 | <ogra> hehe
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16:04 | <xTs> good evening.
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16:05 | is there a way to forward a serial port over the network?
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16:29 | <vagrantc> xTs: not trivially
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16:29 | xTs: what exactly do you need it for?
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16:30 | there are a number of applications that deal with various serial hardware, if that's what it's needed for.
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16:30 | if it's raw serial support, not sure.
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16:34 | <xTs> its for this kind of configuration: serial printer on thinclient in the basement and you should be able to print remotely
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16:34 | <wwx> ser2net
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16:36 | <xTs> thanks, will have a look at it
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16:36 | <wwx> http://ser2net.sourceforge.net/
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16:37 | <xTs> already found it, thanks
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16:39 | <wwx> hm. only printer?
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16:40 | <xTs> and a measuring device
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16:41 | raw serial support would be best, including a virtual device
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16:41 | <wwx> raw support over tcp is a bit problematic
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16:42 | <xTs> timing?
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16:42 | <wwx> no, control (setting baud rate, bits etc)
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16:44 | for printing only you can make simple hp etherjet "emulator" with netcat
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16:44 | <xTs> i dont know if this would work, because this is not a regular printer
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16:44 | <wwx> something like: nc -l -p 9100 > /dev/printer
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16:45 | mhm. you can try
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16:46 | <xTs> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public/us/us/en/model_top/p-touch/9200eus.html?reg=us&c=us&lang=en&prod=9200eus
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16:46 | <wwx> at least this is what i used here this with cups (remote printer defined as HP JetDirect)
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16:50 | <xTs> will try this, too
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16:50 | thank you and good night
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17:20 | <Japerry-cell> I need to get an ssh terminal for the blackberry
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17:21 | <laga> yeah?
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17:21 | this is probably not the correct channel, tho
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17:23 | <Japerry-cell> Lol tis true wrong channel. the irc client is sort wanky
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17:23 | Heh I was thinking if I could then I could work on devel while in the sun
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17:24 | <laga> ssh over GPRS/GSM isn't exactly fun
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17:24 | i use pssh on my treo
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17:24 | for IRC ;)
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17:27 | <Japerry-cell> Hmm yah thus is jmirc.. On verizon thou
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19:05 | <rjune> ping
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19:38 | <vagrantc> pong
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19:56 | <rjune> thanks vagrantc
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20:02 | <vagrantc> anytime
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20:06 | <mistik1> japerry: Try MidpSSH
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22:45 | <japerry> mistik1: hey thanks for the suggestion! downloading
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22:49 | mistik1: aww hmm on the 8830 d/l fails I'll have to test some things and see what I can do. thanks again for the link though
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22:50 | <mistik1> np
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22:51 | japerry: Its what I used on my 8600
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22:51 | <japerry> hmm okay. the development or stable? and midp2.0 or 1.0?
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22:51 | the dev version midp2 and 1 don't seem to work. at least not the full bundle
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22:52 | <mistik1> I was using 1.5.6
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22:53 | <japerry> hmm odd
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22:53 | <mistik1> there are some other non free clients too
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22:53 | Idokorro Mobile SSH is another
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22:53 | <mistik1> I think they give you like 20 or so free connections
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22:54 | <Japerry-cell> 907 Invalid JAR
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22:54 | Error!: control flow verification information too large: a
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22:55 | <japerry> ^^ thats what I got :-/
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22:55 | and then the error ran out :-P oh well I'll give idokorro a try
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