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10:32 | <csaba> hello gents
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10:32 | please hlep me I got a problem running ltsp-update-image
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10:32 | it just stops at about 9%
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10:33 | it used to be just fine
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10:33 | I added some packages to the chroot before
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10:51 | <csaba> anyone?
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10:59 | <VectorX> when installing from alternate CD, why does it say configuring apt and start retrieving files ?
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10:59 | shouldnt the files already be there ?
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11:02 | <muppis> VectorX, I think it is normal behaviour of Debian installer. It uses CD as apt source.
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11:02 | <VectorX> ubuntu
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11:02 | so its not really downloading ?
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11:02 | <muppis> Ubuntu uses Debian installer aswell.
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11:02 | No.
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11:12 | <csaba> ltsp-update-image hangs
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11:12 | any idea why and how to fix it
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11:15 | <csaba> it is ubuntu 1.0.4
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11:15 | 10.04
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11:24 | <csaba> it also very slow to install anything with apt-get install in chroot
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11:25 | and when finally finishes with install it sas error something about openty (/dev/pts not mounted?)
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11:25 | <muppis> Shouldn't be slower than in normal system. Hardware error?
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11:26 | That's normal, can be ingored.
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11:27 | <csaba> main problem is with ltsp-update-image
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11:27 | it hangs at 9%
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11:29 | <muppis> Try generate clean image to different chroot.
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11:29 | <csaba> how is that done?
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11:32 | <muppis> I don't have any ltsp server here at hand now to give exact syntax, but with options of ltsp-build-image
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11:32 | <csaba> oh you mean to create a brand new image
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11:32 | <muppis> Yes.
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11:33 | You don't need to touch existing one anyhow.
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11:33 | <csaba> what if I delete the current one or to move it somewhere lese
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11:33 | else
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11:33 | <muppis> If you find that easier.
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11:33 | You can just rename it.
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11:34 | <csaba> let me try it
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11:36 | ltsp-build-client is this the one?
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11:36 | I amnot shure if this would overwrite my chroot or just create e new image
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11:39 | <muppis> It won't overwrite it.
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11:40 | <csaba> man says ltsp-build-client creates a new chroot
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11:40 | and that is not what i want
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11:41 | <muppis> Just move old to different name so you can redeem it when you done testing.
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11:50 | <csaba> ok let me ask how to build a new image in ltsp so that ltsp-update.image will not freeze the system
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11:50 | and I do not want to buld a new chroot since this one is already configured?
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11:51 | just to update
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11:54 | <muppis> Whole system frozes during ltsp-update-image ?
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11:56 | <csaba> almost
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11:56 | <csaba> and I have to wait long to reocver
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11:56 | at least via vnc I can not do much not via ssh
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12:00 | what interesting is cpu drops to low and it just waits for something
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12:01 | any idea?
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12:03 | <muppis> Look with top -command what system does during that time.
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12:04 | <csaba> that is what I said .. it is not doing anything
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12:04 | <muppis> No even iowait?
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12:04 | <csaba> I can try again but it might take some time until I can answer
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12:04 | wait
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12:05 | mksquashfs started
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12:09 | <andygraybeal> happy morning
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12:59 | <csaba> muppis, it freezed again
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13:00 | after running ltsp-update-image
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13:01 | <alkisg> csaba: are you using some file system other than ext4? E.g. NFS, SSHFS?
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13:01 | <csaba> alkisg, on the chroot ?
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13:01 | <alkisg> In general, in your server, in your chroot, wherever
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13:02 | <csaba> I installed nfs-kernel-server on the server and exported /home
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13:03 | but did not set it up properly yet so I am not shure if this is a problem or not
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13:03 | <alkisg> What kind of freeze it is?
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13:03 | <csaba> well, all was fine until today, when I installed block-flash on the chroot
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13:04 | <alkisg> Maybe you have /proc still mounted in the chroot?
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13:04 | <csaba> then tried to updete the image, and then about at 9% it just stops
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13:04 | maybe
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13:04 | <alkisg> Try to reboot your server
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13:04 | This will make sure that you don't have something mounted that you shouldn't
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13:05 | Of course if it's a production server, try to umount it first
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13:05 | <csaba> and in connection to this when I try to apt-get install anything it is Very slow
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13:05 | <alkisg> Try again after rebooting, no point in troubleshooting it if you forgot e.g. /proc mounted
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13:06 | <csaba> eralier: and when finally finishes with install it sas error something about openty (/dev/pts not mounted?)
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13:06 | alkisg, ok I reboot then
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13:11 | <csaba> alkisg, just a min
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13:13 | <VectorX> i installed the 64 bit alternate cd and trying to connect a pentium ii client, getting error "This kernel requires an X86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU" what can i do to fix this
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13:14 | <muppis> VectorX, you need i386 chroot.
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13:14 | Pentium II is 32 bit system.
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13:14 | <VectorX> right, so does this mean i have to install the 32bit cd ?
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13:14 | the idea was to use all the mem in the system
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13:15 | <muppis> ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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13:16 | <csaba> alkisg, it is now passed 9% so perhaps you were right
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13:16 | alkisg, is it possible to create e new image from chroot and not update the old one?
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13:17 | <VectorX> muppis so should work after running that ? its doing its thing atm
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13:18 | <muppis> VectorX, maybe little adjustement needed to dhcpd.conf to offer correct files for client, but basically yes.
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13:23 | <VectorX> got any docs on that
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13:23 | to determine which arch to load depending on the system cpu
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13:23 | <csaba> alkisg, it worked thanks
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13:23 | <knipwim> VectorX: try wikipedia
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13:24 | for the cpu in question
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13:24 | <muppis> VectorX, only bullet proof is use 32 bit for every client. Otherwise you must define that in dhcpd.conf.
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13:25 | <VectorX> muppis i guess that would make sense
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13:30 | <csaba> alkisg, it is now showing a fail event on my raid,
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13:30 | it is on of the /
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13:32 | <muppis> csaba, something like that I expected.
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13:35 | <csaba> really
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13:35 | has it happend to you too
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13:36 | <muppis> Not in LTSP enviroment, but sounded like it.
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13:37 | <csaba> interesting is that the smart status is fine
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13:38 | but the raid status is not
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13:38 | hm
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13:38 | <muppis> Maybe controller is failing?
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13:38 | <VectorX> muppis ok so its downloading a whole bunch of stuff(ubuntu), is there some offline way I can do this, obviously the amd64 alternate cd isnt sufficing
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13:39 | <csaba> muppis, tomorrow I will try it with another disk
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13:40 | it is sw raid not hw
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13:40 | <muppis> VectorX, I think not.
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13:40 | csaba, ok.
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13:53 | <csaba> thanks for helping
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13:54 | <muppis> No prob.
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14:01 | <csaba> I am glad I did a raid 1 install instead of just with 1 disk
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14:02 | <muppis> Raid 1 really saves the day.
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14:04 | <Guest56586> hoping for a succesful replace
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14:04 | interesting is that only one partition is degraded and not the whole disk
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14:06 | <muppis> Can be predective for full failure and smart doesn't detect that yet. In my home server is same situation, smart show ok for all, but disk doesn't start if cold.
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14:32 | <dgroos> alkisg: epoptes help?
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14:32 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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14:32 | <alkisg> dgroos: if it's a fast one... I'm going to leave in 5'
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14:32 | hi mgariepy
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14:32 | <mgariepy> how are you doing alkisg ?
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14:32 | <dgroos> 'k
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14:33 | I launch epoptes and on the fat client and it shows only grayed out icons...
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14:33 | <alkisg> Btw, the certificate generated by default by openssl is only valid for a month, I hope that doesn't break installations after 1 month, I just saw that, didn't investigate yet if it causes problems...
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14:33 | Did it use to work before?
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14:33 | <dgroos> I name all the clients via MAC in lts.conf.
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14:33 | Yes.
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14:34 | I haven't used it in a while.
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14:34 | <alkisg> It might be that certificate problem then
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14:34 | Let's leave it for now, I'll look at it tomorrow, and tell you if it was that
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14:34 | If you're in a hurry, you can regenerate the certificate
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14:34 | Or disable encryption
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14:34 | <dgroos> OK, I'll try that and see if it works.
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14:35 | how disable?
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14:35 | is it easy?
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14:35 | <alkisg> Make /etc/epoptes/server.crt zero-size, both in the server and the chroot
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14:35 | <dgroos> I'll google that, thanks.
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14:35 | <alkisg> (e.g. mv server.crt server.bak; touch server.crt, something like that)
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14:35 | <dgroos> OK
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14:36 | Thanks, have a good afternoon!
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14:37 | <alkisg> u 2
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14:37 | bb
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14:37 | <dgroos> adios
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16:24 | <knipwim> what version of nbd are you guys using?
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16:24 | I'm getting a "Read failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" when trying to boot via nbd
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16:24 | using 2.9.22 myself
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16:36 | <knipwim> ehm, nm on the version, upgrading to 2.9.25 didn't help
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17:33 | <alkisg> dgroos: you can check the date of the epoptes certificate with: openssl x509 -in /etc/epoptes/server.crt -noout -text | grep "Not After"
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