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Channel log from 2 February 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:28 | <shrek> Hi!
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| 06:36 | <cdealer> good morning to all
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| 06:38 | just one simple question, where/how do I change my ltsp login background image? Im going in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes there are a link (broken) default -> /etc/alternatives/ldm-theme .... so I remake the link pointing to /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu and still have the same bg (I have changed the bg.png to my background file). Im using ltsp5 with ubuntu 7.10
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> cdealer: the link wouldn't be broken if you chroot'ed to /opt/ltsp/i386 first
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| 06:39 | <cdealer> alkisg: Hmmm okay, so I supose I just need to change the bg.png inside the chroot /etc/alternatives/ldm-theme ?
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> To select one of the preinstalled themes, you should run update-alternatives ldm-themes (or something similar, I don't remember the parameter name)
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| 06:41 | I suppose you can also overwrite bg.png as you say...
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| 06:45 | <cdealer> alkisg: running "update-alternatives --config ldm-themes" returns "There are no alternatives for ldm-theme"...
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| 06:46 | well, im kind lost here, just need to change the background ...
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| 06:46 | <alkisg> cdealer: did you run this in the chroot?
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| 06:47 | <cdealer> alkisg: yeah, sorry, I wasnt
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| 06:47 | now I see the options
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| 06:48 | <alkisg> I think the "correct" way would be to make a theme of your own, package it, install it and select it through update-alternatives. But I guess overriding the bg.png and running ltsp-update-image afterwards is quicker... :)
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| 06:48 | <cdealer> well, its already set to ubuntu theme but still can't see my wallpaper, I need to reboot or run any command to start using the new wallpaper?
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| 06:49 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-image
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| 06:49 | But restore the symlink as it was
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| 06:50 | <cdealer> yeah, did that already, im going to run ltsp-update-image now
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| 07:07 | <cdealer> alkisg: thanks, worked =)
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| 07:07 | new question, when ubuntu 9.04 come out will ltsp have changes?
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| 07:07 | <alkisg> cdealer: yw. Keep in mind that an update to the themes could replace your background...
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| 07:08 | Yes, a _lot_!!!
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| 07:08 | E.g. out of the box support for localapps
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| 07:08 | <cdealer> Hmnmm this is good
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| 07:09 | Im waiting this rrelease to install on ouw new server ... 32gb of ram and 4 xeon processors +D
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| 07:11 | alkisg: this means that will use local processors and local memory too ?
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| 07:11 | <alkisg> Yes, if you want it to.
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| 07:12 | E.g. if your clients are good enough, they could run firefox/flash locally for better performance
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| 07:13 | <cdealer> well, yeah! All of our clients are P4 HT with 512mb of memory, and we use a lot of firefox and jvm, so I think this will be very good, and indeed is something we have being waiting for
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| 08:01 | <yggdrasill__> hello
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| 08:02 | I 'd like to ask for help
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| 08:02 | anybody here?
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| 08:03 | <cyberorg> yggdrasill__, we all know that is a trick question, if you have anything to ask, just ask, someone will get back to you when they read it :)
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| 08:04 | <yggdrasill__> thanks a lot.
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| 08:04 | Anyway I'm having troubles with the correct thin client graphic card.
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| 08:05 | I have a Fuji-Siemens futro thin client and it has an ATI Radeon X1250
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| 08:06 | even if I set on lts.conf the XSERVER to radeon or ati, the only one that works is vesa.
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| 08:06 | <cyberorg> yggdrasill__, try XSERVER=radeon in lts.conf
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| 08:06 | <yggdrasill__> exactly.
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| 08:06 | I also provided my own xorg.conf
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| 08:06 | ad hoc for radeon
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| 08:07 | <cyberorg> yggdrasill__, which distro?
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| 08:07 | <yggdrasill__> but it is ignored.
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| 08:07 | I mean not ignored at all but not correctly working
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| 08:07 | ubuntu 8.04 lts
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| 08:08 | <cyberorg> try CONFIGURE_X=false and let auto detection do its thing
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| 08:08 | <yggdrasill__> I think the problem could be the server side. The graphic card of the server is a Matrox mga g200e
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| 08:08 | <cyberorg> server card has got nothing to do with client
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| 08:08 | <yggdrasill__> I set CONFIGURE_X=false of course... :)
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| 08:08 | <cyberorg> oh, then set it to true after adding XSERVER = radeon
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| 08:08 | <yggdrasill__> I also tried to set Xserver = auto.
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> I don't think Ubuntu 8.04 supports CONFIGURE_X, I think it's only on 8.10
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| 08:09 | <yggdrasill__> I see.
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| 08:09 | <ogra> alkisg, CONFIGURE_X is in since gutsy
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| 08:09 | <yggdrasill__> but where the thin client get the radeon drivers? should I download to the server?
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| 08:09 | <ogra> until 8.04 it was defaulting to Ture thoug
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| 08:09 | *though
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| 08:09 | <alkisg> ogra, wasn't it X_CONFIGURE back then?
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| 08:10 | <ogra> from 8.10 on it defaults to False
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> (anyway, I'll be quiet now... :P :D)
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| 08:10 | <ogra> i think it was always CONFIGURE_X
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| 08:10 | <yggdrasill__> no, please if you have any idea...
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| 08:10 | <ogra> anyway, rebooting after upgrade ... /me prays and hopes he'll come back :)
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| 08:11 | <yggdrasill__> well I did this way.
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| 08:11 | <yggdrasill__> first I set xserver to auto
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| 08:11 | and then to vesa.
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| 08:11 | <yggdrasill__> the problem is that the screen is a wide (1680x105) and vesa standard goes up to 1440
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| 08:12 | so I tried to change xserver to ati or radeon
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| 08:12 | <yggdrasill__> but results were a default screen of 640x480 with no possibility of change
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| 08:13 | so far I created my own xorg.conf and I passed to lts.con
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| 08:13 | results are the same...
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| 08:13 | the thin clients are Fuji-siemens Futro-S450
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| 08:14 | everything else is perfectly working...
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| 08:17 | <yggdrasill__> I read many times the manual about concerning the x config. I tried many different solutions but ... no way.
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| 08:18 | <yggdrasill__> later I'll do some other tests I hope to be luckier
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| 08:18 | even if I tried a lot...
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| 08:23 | <yggdrasill__> well, I get back to my ltsp system, if someone has an idea about how to make this thin client works, please tell me..
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| 08:24 | I'll be back tonight...
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| 08:24 | thank you all for help.
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| 08:29 | <quickslip> hola
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| 08:33 | <din_os> hello, a quick question...
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| 08:33 | do I need to put my server's users in group ssh in order to connect via ltsp?
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| 08:35 | <Gadi> din_os: no (unless you have restricted sshd in some way)
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| 08:36 | din_os: as long as you can ssh -X user@server, you should be good
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| 08:36 | <din_os> Gadi: I keep getting 'verifying password' even after updating-sshkeys and image
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| 08:37 | I log in as root on my client and cannot do: ssh -l <username> <server-ip>
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| 08:37 | <Gadi> din_os: try adding -X
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| 08:37 | <din_os> OK
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| 08:38 | <Gadi> if that work, too, then check the user's ~/.xsession-errors files
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| 08:38 | *file
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| 08:38 | and /var/log/auth.log
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| 08:38 | <din_os> you mean on the client?
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| 08:38 | <Gadi> and /var/log/syslog
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| 08:38 | din_os: no, all on the server
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| 08:39 | ldm basically runs ssh -X user@server /etc/X11/Xsession
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| 08:39 | <din_os> ok I'll write this down, unfortunately my test environment is at work so I have to try this tomorrow
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| 08:39 | <Gadi> so, if it fails to login, it could be the ssh authentication or it could be something wrong with an Xsession.d script
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| 08:39 | Xsession throws errors into ~/.xsession-errors
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| 08:40 | <din_os> are you the same Gadi as the other one a few days ago? I had a similar problem trying to log in using different dhcp server than the ltsp-server
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> sshd authentication issues will show up in auth.log or syslog
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| 08:40 | afaik, there can be only one Gadi
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| 08:40 | :)
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| 08:40 | <din_os> hehe you had a different nick with an extention
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> kinda like the Highlander
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| 08:40 | <din_os> Gadi_something
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> ah - Gadi_eeepc
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| 08:40 | <din_os> ah yes
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> (when I log in with my lil buddy)
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| 08:41 | <din_os> ok
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| 08:44 | <din_os> oh, something else, don't know if it is related
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| 08:44 | Just before displaying the ldm login, there is an error 275 whilst trying to 'prepare ltsp' or something
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| 08:45 | *maybe configure ltsp
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> din_os: I wonder if you have a syntax error in your lts.conf
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| 08:45 | <din_os> that's all with quiet splash removed hence I can see the error
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> can you paste it?
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| 08:45 | <din_os> tomorrow :P
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> !pastebot
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| 08:45 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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| 08:46 | if you have a syntax error in lts.conf, the whole file is not read
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| 08:46 | <din_os> I'll write it down, but I think you may be right, I'll try with a more empty lts.cfg this time
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> so, if you create a root passwd in the chroot, and log in on ctrl-alt-f1
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| 08:46 | you can execute:
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| 08:46 | getltscfg -a
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| 08:46 | <din_os> ok what does this do?
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> if that returns a syntax error, then that is your problem
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| 08:47 | getltscfg -a gets all lts.conf parameters from lts.conf
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| 08:47 | <din_os> ok thanks. are you one of the devs or something?
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| 08:47 | <Gadi> indeed
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| 08:48 | <din_os> ok cheers, good job guys
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> good luck
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| 08:49 | <redspike> How to change lanuage on ldm ?
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| 08:49 | language
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| 08:56 | <Merri> I am looking for some assistance with AD integration and WInbind
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| 09:05 | <CAN-o-SPAM> !s
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| 09:05 | <ltspbot> CAN-o-SPAM: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:22 | <huey_> i am going to buy some 1220's from diskless workstations. would you guys reccommend pxe or etherboot?
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| 09:24 | <warren> pxe
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| 09:24 | <huey_> does the 1220 work well with ltsp5?
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| 09:25 | <jammcq> bom dia #ltsp
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| 09:26 | <warren> huey_: depends entirely on the drivers of a particular OS
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| 09:27 | <huey_> its not doing anything special, just loading a simple app at login
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| 09:27 | <ogra> should work well on all ubuntu releases
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| 09:27 | * ogra knows a bunch of 1220 users | |
| 09:27 | <huey_> alright, thats what i was hoping to hear :D
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| 09:28 | now to go buy a couple for testing
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| 09:28 | <cdealer> hey, whats the relation of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 with ltsp (if there is any)?
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| 09:28 | <Merri> Does anyone use winbind to authenticate to AD?
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| 09:28 | <ogra> mumble ... new Xorg is weird ... /me cant scroll any scrollbars with the left mousebutton anymore in gtk apps ... need to use the right one
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| 09:34 | <cdealer> can anyone tellme if there is any relation of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 with LTSP ?
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| 09:39 | <etyack> huey_, the 1220 is a great all around thin client, and yes I'm biased
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| 09:39 | <huey_> heh
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| 09:44 | <jammcq> cdealer: ld-linux.so.2 is the glibc dynamic linker/loader
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| 09:44 | no special relationship to LTSP. It's just required for Linux in general
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| 09:44 | man ld-linux
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| 09:54 | <cdealer> jammcq: okay, thanks!
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| 11:23 | <pmatulis> how to set up default locale under 8.10? need to change mine to 'en_CA.UTF-8'
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| 11:26 | <nixchat> hi all
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| 11:51 | <Gadi> pmatulis: try: LDM_LANGUAGE
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| 11:53 | <pmatulis> Gadi: how to use?
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| 12:02 | <Gadi> pmatulis: LDM_LANGUAGE in lts.conf sets the default language selected by the Language dialog
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| 12:02 | (if thats what you are after)
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| 12:02 | so: LDM_LANGUAGE = "en_CA.UTF-8"
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| 12:02 | (i think)
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| 12:02 | !docs
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| 12:02 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 12:06 | <stgraber> looks like some recent change to S01-localapps broke my groups again ...
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| 12:13 | <pmatulis> Gadi: will try, thank you
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| 12:19 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-kernels always replaces /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default with /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.cfg/default, even if an admin customized the former. Is this a bug, or by design?
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| 12:26 | <warren__> alkisg: that isn't the case on fedora
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| 12:27 | <stgraber> Gadi: are you familiar with the magic done by S01-localapps to generate the group file ?
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| 12:27 | Gadi: looks like for some reason, my group file on the thin client is missing some groups that I have on the server
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| 12:27 | <stgraber> Gadi: making the usermod to fail ...
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| 12:28 | <alkisg> warren: I'm talking about this line of upstream ltsp-update-kernels: "cp -a $CHROOT/boot/. $TFTPBOOT/$CHROOT_NAME/". How did you solve this in fedora?
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| 12:28 | <warren> alkisg: It seemed stupid to me to have pxelinux in /boot
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| 12:29 | <alkisg> Heh, nice! :)
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| 12:43 | <stgraber> hmm, it's not LTSP's fault but a stupid patch we have
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| 12:44 | <warren> stgraber: where?
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| 12:45 | <stgraber> something revolutionlinux-specific ... some kind of patch on libnss-ldap that hides LDAP groups when doing "getent group" to avoid overloading the ldap server
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| 12:45 | but that's also causing vagrantc's function to fail as it gets a list of group for the user but can't find them in the "getent group" so basically usermod tries to add the user to a group that doesn't exist
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| 12:46 | I'm not sure on how to fix that because we're trying to upstreamize that libnss-ldap patch, might be worth fixing it directly in LTSP too so that it won't fail in the future
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> stgraber: there is code in there that uses "id", too
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| 12:52 | is id affected as well?
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| 13:13 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:16 | <stgraber> Gadi: well, it gets the list of your groups using id which is fine but then adds the groups based on getent group that doesn't return the groups :)
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| 13:16 | <stgraber> Gadi: I have a patch for that, pushing it now to trunk
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| 13:17 | <Gadi> stgraber: it should be cumulative
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| 13:17 | the list of groups, that is
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| 13:17 | * Gadi looks for patch | |
| 13:18 | <stgraber> Gadi: well, to understand my problem: we have a patch to libnss-ldap which makes that "getent group" won't return the ldap groups but: "getent group <a ldap group>" will work
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| 13:18 | <Gadi> right
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| 13:18 | <stgraber> that's to avoid overloading the LDAP server when doing a "getent group" as it'd in some cases make 40000 requests
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| 13:18 | <Gadi> but the 2 calls in the script are concat'd together
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| 13:19 | so, getent + id groups
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| 13:19 | should still include your groups
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| 13:19 | <stgraber> it was for myGroups but not for /etc/group
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| 13:19 | <Gadi> ah
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| 13:19 | <stgraber> so myGroups contained my ldap groups but the generated /etc/group didn't have them
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| 13:19 | <Gadi> gotcha
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| 13:19 | <Gadi> how did it work before?
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| 13:19 | we always generated /etc/group that way
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| 13:20 | :)
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| 13:20 | <stgraber> we installed our patch last week :)
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| 13:20 | <Gadi> oh
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| 13:20 | <stgraber> so it broke during a test this morning :)
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> stgraber: I hope you will test ltsp-genmenu at the same time ;)
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| 13:21 | <stgraber> I'm not running a fresh enough LTSP to have it yet :)
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| 13:23 | <Gadi> shame
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| 13:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: just tried out the
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| 13:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> gud...
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| 13:23 | uhmm... ignote above
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| 13:23 | <Gadi> btw: is the only reason your nbd-checkupdate stuff is in ldm bec of ldm-dialog?
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| 13:27 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i think that's why
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| 13:27 | <Gadi> shame
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| 13:27 | :)
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| 13:28 | seems you guys had a busy weekend, btw
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> could re-write it to fall back to xmessage
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| 13:28 | <warren> xmessage is so horribly ugly.
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> in the rare cases where it's not installed... it'll be ugly, but it'll be there.
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| 13:28 | warren: if someone's gone through the trouble to not install ldm ... they should suffer the occasional ugly.
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| 13:29 | <Gadi> lol
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| 13:29 | <vagrantc> or alternately, not display anything at all and just reboot
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| 13:29 | but i think it's enough of a corner case that falling back to xmessage, ugly though it may be, should hopefully be ok.
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| 13:30 | <Gadi> it should also be configurable behavior, imho
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| 13:31 | ie, one should be able to disable rebooting automatically in lts.conf
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| 13:31 | * vagrantc proposed that already | |
| 13:31 | <vagrantc> but people fear too many lts.conf options
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> shot down in your prime?
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| 13:31 | thats absurd
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| 13:31 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i'm glad you think so :)
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> infinite options - sane defaults
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| 13:31 | :)
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| 13:32 | its not like we ever catch up on our docs, anyway
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| 13:32 | :P
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| 13:32 | <vagrantc> if you're not obsoleting the documentation with every commit, what's the point?
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| 13:33 | <Gadi> its not like we ever change the behavior of options
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| 13:33 | we just have lots of hidden treasures
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| 13:33 | * jammcq likes options | |
| 13:33 | <vagrantc> and parrots
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| 13:34 | <jammcq> yeah, parrots too
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| 13:37 | <Gadi> can liking parrots be optional?
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| 13:38 | <SDuensin> What if you like canning parrots?
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| 13:43 | <yggdrasill__> hello
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| 13:44 | just back from my tests with Xserver
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| 13:44 | still no success
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| 13:44 | with the Radeon x1250
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| 13:44 | any suggestions?
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| 13:49 | <vagrantc> warren: i have a simple patch to ldminfod to restrict the number of locales returned...
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| 13:49 | <warren> vagrantc: paste?
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| 13:49 | <ltsppbot> "vagrantc" pasted "ldminfod: limit locales returned" (24 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/230
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| 13:50 | <vagrantc> warren: could probably use some touch-up, but should basically get the job done.
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| 13:50 | <warren> what is the format of that text file?
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| 13:50 | <vagrantc> warren: one locale per line
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| 13:51 | would need more code to ignore comments, but not a lot.
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| 13:51 | actually, as long as the comment doesn't match an existing locale, it's probably fine...
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| 13:51 | <warren> is it really necessary to go into /etc/ldm on the server?
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| 13:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: newest ltsp release (5.1.56) - no cursor showing on desktop w/via chipset in F10. Will do some more testing and try to enable software cursor.
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| 13:51 | <warren> /etc/ldm doesn't exist yet
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| 13:51 | _UsUrPeR_: nothing to do with 5.1.56, that is an X bug
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| 13:52 | <vagrantc> warren: it's necessary it goes somewhere on the server
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| 13:52 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: which client hardware?
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| 13:52 | vagrantc: I mean, why not /etc/ltsp/soething
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| 13:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> ltsp term 1420. via chipset
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| 13:52 | <vagrantc> warren: why not :)
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| 13:52 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: ok, I don't have one of those, and that is an X bug.
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| 13:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: works fine w/intel chipset :/
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| 13:53 | <yggdrasill__> do you have some experience with futro Thin clients?
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| 13:53 | <warren> vagrantc: I don't want to create another directory, and it is more clear that everything you could possibly configure for an ltsp server is in one directory
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| 13:53 | _UsUrPeR_: yes, it is an X bug.
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| 13:53 | <Gadi> vagrantc: if l.startswith('#'): continue
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| 13:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> warren: rgr. will check errors.
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| 13:53 | <warren> _UsUrPeR_: X (includes the via driver)
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| 13:53 | <vagrantc> warren: i'm not attached to the name.
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| 13:53 | Gadi: as long as a locale doesn't beging with #, it almost doesn't matter :)
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| 13:54 | <warren> vagrantc: so if nothing is defined in that file, then display all?
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| 13:54 | <Gadi> warren: if no file exists
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| 13:54 | <vagrantc> warren: or if nothing valid in the file, it displays all
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| 13:55 | if the file doesn't exist, or no locales in it match locales returned by "locale -a", it will return all the locales
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| 13:55 | at least, that's the theory
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| 13:55 | <vagrantc> warren: although it displays the default locale in any case.
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| 13:55 | <warren> a little counter intuitive but we have no better option
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| 13:56 | * Gadi prefers /etc/ldm to /etc/ltsp | |
| 13:56 | <vagrantc> warren: i'm writing this out of good faith, it's largely useless to me :)
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| 13:56 | <Gadi> ldm should technically not need ltsp
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| 13:56 | <warren> Gadi: ok, /etc/ldm it is
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| 13:56 | how about /etc/ldm/locale-whitelist
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| 13:56 | <vagrantc> fine by me
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| 13:56 | <warren> because that is exactly what it is
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| 13:56 | <Gadi> in fact, I would like at some point to have an /etc/ldm/ldm.conf
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| 13:57 | in which you can specify all LDM_* params
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| 13:57 | <johnny> just because ldm doesn't need ltsp, doesn't mean we can't use /etc/ltsp/ldm ...
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| 13:57 | <warren> technically that is ldminfod, not ldm
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> and that would be sourced by the ldm binary
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| 13:57 | <vagrantc> though this is specifically ldminfod related...
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| 13:57 | i see a case for /etc/ltsp as well as /etc/ldm ... they both have perfectly valid logic, it just depends what your priorities are.
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| 13:58 | <warren> /etc/ldminfod/locale-whitelist would be the most correct
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| 13:58 | <Gadi> indeed
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> warren: though it's part of the "ldm family", so i'd make a case for just /etc/ldm rather than ldminfod, though possibly with ldminfod in the filename... i.e. /etc/ldm/ldminfod-locales-whitelist
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| 13:59 | <Gadi> yeah, /etc/ldminfod makes most sense
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> but i'm not really attached too hard to where any of it goes :)
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| 13:59 | <Gadi> :)
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| 13:59 | <warren> I'm against locale pluralized.
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| 13:59 | =)
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> as long as it's not brain-dead and we don't keep changing it :)
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| 14:00 | <Gadi> how about: /etc/ldm/ldminfod-locale
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| 14:00 | (or locales)
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| 14:00 | :)
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| 14:00 | <warren> Gadi: I like to include whitelist in the name, because it logically makes more sense
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| 14:00 | self descriptive
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| 14:00 | <Gadi> ok
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> "all lines that don't match a locale are treated as comments" ... i love that feature. :)
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| 14:00 | <Gadi> better than self-destructive
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| 14:01 | <vagrantc> might rename some of the variables in the code to use the name whitelist as well..
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| 14:04 | <warren> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/k12linux/f10/stable3/ Major new release of K12Linux, this is it if it passes testing.
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| 14:04 | <vagrantc> been quite a while, no?
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| 14:04 | <warren> ?
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> since the last k12linux ?
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| 14:05 | <warren> January 13th?
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> i guess not :)
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| 14:06 | * vagrantc still wonders what to call the ldminfod locale whitelist file ... | |
| 14:07 | <Gadi> /etc/ldm/ldminfod-locale-whitelist
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| 14:21 | <vagrantc> i guess this code assumes your locales end in .UTF-8 or .utf8
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| 14:21 | but i think the rest of the code does as well, so it should be fine...
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| 14:25 | stgraber: you can call getent group $group1 $group2 $group3
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| 14:29 | should be able to re-write it with fewer calls to ssh...
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| 14:34 | <stgraber> vagrantc: oh, wasn't aware that getent group can receives more than one group as argument
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| 14:35 | <vagrantc> stgraber: seems to work for me :)
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| 14:35 | stgraber: pushing a fix now...
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| 14:36 | this group handling stuff is kind of a pain...
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| 14:37 | <stgraber> I agree
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| 14:40 | <vagrantc> - myGroups=$(echo ${myGroups},${myGroups1} | sed -e 's/^,//g' -e 's/,$//g')
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| 14:40 | + myGroups=$(echo ${myGroups},${myGroups1} | tr ',' '\n' | sort -u | tr '\n' ',' | sed -e 's/^,//g' -e 's/,$//g')
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| 14:40 | would prune out duplicates...
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| 14:41 | though it's not a huge deal to have duplicates, as usermod handles it fine, thought getent group A B C B A returns multiple entries for A and B
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| 14:41 | which isn't a huge deal either, but it's one more loop for the other dupe processing later...
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| 15:45 | <MaTrixKx> hill guys
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| 15:47 | i have some probles whit ltsp in ubuntu 8.10
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| 15:48 | soo slow a time make login
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| 16:08 | <nightrid3r> seems to be a problem on all versons of ubuntu
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| 16:09 | <sbalneav> MaTrixKx: Define "soo slow a time make login"? You mean, after you enter the password, it takes a while for the desktop to come up?
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| 16:10 | Usually, this is because ssh is trying to do a reverse lookup on the thin client's ip
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| 16:10 | make sure the thin clients ip's are either in DNS, or in /etc/hosts
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| 16:13 | <MaTrixKx> I am using ubuntu ltsp, and when doing login from the terminal takes enough in doing login. Some reference on the problem?
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| 16:13 | sbalneav: yes it is
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| 16:15 | <sbalneav> MaTrixKx: yes, that's the problem, or yes, they're in /etc/hosts already
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| 16:15 | ?
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| 16:17 | MaTrixKx: Are your thin clients already in /etc/hosts?
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| 16:17 | <MaTrixKx> mmm then ok my clients must be aggregates to /etc/hosts?
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| 16:17 | sbalneav: noop
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| 16:19 | <sbalneav> yes
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| 16:20 | <MaTrixKx> sbalneav: Ok you can give some league me on all I am details.
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| 16:21 | <sbalneav> I'm sorry, I didn't understand that.
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| 16:21 | <MaTrixKx> MaTrixKx is an idiot and needs urgent way to learn English
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| 16:21 | <sbalneav> Are you wanting to know WHY you need to add the clients to /etc/hosts?
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| 16:24 | <MaTrixKx> sbalneav: please tall me
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| 16:25 | <sbalneav> when you log in, the ssh process on the server does a reverse lookup on the IP address of the client.
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| 16:25 | If it isn't in either DNS or /etc/hosts, it will fail.
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| 16:25 | but it takes 20 seconds or so to time out.
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| 16:25 | that's what makes it slow.
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| 16:25 | <MaTrixKx> sbalneav: mmmm exelente!!!!!!!!
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| 16:26 | <nightrid3r> <----takeing notes
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| 16:26 | <MaTrixKx> pense that the problem was with pam_unix or the keys ssh
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| 16:27 | sbalneav: where are you from??
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| 16:27 | <sbalneav> Canada
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| 16:27 | Winnipeg, Manitoba, to be exact.
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| 16:27 | <nightrid3r> Belgium
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| 16:28 | <sbalneav> Heading home for the day. I'll be on again tonight.
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| 16:28 | cya
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| 16:29 | <MaTrixKx> and whats its your work??
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| 16:37 | <kaos01> hi, i got the new ltsp running on fedora10 but have problems using vesa driver
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| 16:37 | all seemed to have worked in ltsp4.2
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| 16:39 | <nightrid3r> kaos01: you just might be out of luck, only the newbies are awake :(
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| 16:39 | <kaos01> ok, just found something to try at boot: linux xdriver=vesa
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| 16:41 | <nightrid3r> 800X600 resolution ?
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| 16:52 | <kaos01> yes
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| 16:55 | <nightrid3r> kaos01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/800x600%20video%20mode
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| 17:41 | <nightrid3r> i just installed edubuntu ltsp server, client gets dhcp address but cant boot, tftpd is spawning several child processes when the client try to connect
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| 17:43 | <vagrantc> hm. i switched the debian ltsp packaging to use debhelper 7, but it seems to be giving me a couple lintian issues... E: ltsp-client-core: duplicate-updaterc.d-calls-in-postinst ltsp-client-core
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| 17:43 | ah, i think i see the problem...
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| 17:44 | though that part of the code didn't really change much pre-debhelper v7
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| 17:45 | dh_installinit seems to be ignoring the --no-start argument ...
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| 18:05 | <Diablito> ls
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| 18:09 | <alkisg> -rw-r--r-- 1 alkisg alkisg 39K 2009-01-23 09:58 Xorg.7.log
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| 18:10 | :D
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| 18:16 | <vagrantc> ah, figured out my dh_installinit woes!
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| 18:22 | <vagrantc> needed to call dh_installinit from the install target, rather than the binary-arch target
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| 19:02 | <warren> Ryan52: ping
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| 19:02 | <Ryan52> warren: pong
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| 19:37 | <warren> Ryan52: hmm, a goal for the next versions of ltsp build into Fedora is to get stgraber's ltsp-cluster stuff to work.
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| 19:52 | <warren> Ryan52: how's the filing going?
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| 19:53 | <Ryan52> sorry, I got distracted...my friend came online and I talked to her for a little while and then I started eating dinner :p
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| 19:53 | okay, I'll start working on it now :)
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| 19:55 | <warren> Ryan52: her? ooh, higher priority!
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| 19:56 | <Ryan52> hehe
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| 19:58 | <Ryan52> do I choose bugfix or enhancement? there's no "both" option.
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| 20:00 | * vagrantc notices that the same upstream ldm version is in debian, ubuntu and fedora ... | |
| 20:00 | <vagrantc> it's like a conjunction of the stars
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| 20:02 | <warren> vagrantc: unholy trifecta
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| 20:03 | Ryan52: just do bugfix
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| 20:03 | Ryan52: usually the answer for questions is "use best judgment"
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| 20:19 | <Ryan52> warren, will the announcement text be editable if I screwed it up in some way?
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| 20:19 | <warren> Ryan52: yes
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| 20:20 | <Ryan52> okay, then submitted.
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| 20:20 | or not.
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| 20:20 | ugh, this bodhi thing is a piece of crap.
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| 20:20 | <warren> Ryan52: error?
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| 20:21 | * Ryan52 had to login again, and it replaced my list of packages with the word "text", which of course erorred our | |
| 20:21 | <warren> did it lose your announcement text?
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| 20:21 | Ryan52: https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ file bug here
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| 20:21 | <Ryan52> no, luckily it didn't.
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| 20:22 | tho everything else was mangled.
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| 20:22 | Request is Stable or Testing or None?
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| 20:22 | and what does that mean?
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| 20:25 | <warren> stable
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| 20:25 | <warren> stable goes straight to updates
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| 20:25 | testing is testing updates, not yet an official stable update
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| 20:25 | none goes nowhere
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| 20:26 | <Ryan52> oh, right, you told me that already.
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| 20:26 | wow.
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| 20:26 | I entered in the wrong versions.
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| 20:26 | and it mangled everytihng this time.
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| 20:26 | luckily I copied the text into emacs first :)
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| 20:26 | <warren> yeah, I was about to suggest that...
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| 20:28 | <Ryan52> 0.o. it passes stuff via GET parameters.
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| 20:28 | that's a security bug...
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| 20:29 | oh, no, it was just to the form. still weird imho.
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| 20:29 | warren, okay, submitted.
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| 20:30 | * warren checks | |
| 20:30 | <warren> now go to https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ and complain
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| 20:33 | <Ryan52> oops. was I not supposed to use line breaks?
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| 20:34 | or is the emailer thing messed up?
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| 20:40 | <warren> e-mailer might be messed up
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| 20:44 | <Ryan52> ok, anything else for me to do?
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| 20:45 | <warren> Ryan52: Go talk to that girl.
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| 23:13 | <warren> Ryan52: you subscribed to k12linux-devel-list?
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| 23:13 | <Ryan52> no clue.
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| 23:13 | <warren> Ryan52: I just fixed a bug that enables devel to netboot again, it mostly works, but there are a few minor bugs to fix.
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| 23:13 | <Ryan52> my "redhat.com mailing list memberships reminder" from yesterday says I am.
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| 23:14 | <warren> Ryan52: only ... it seems to start several new services because they aren't listed in ltsp-client to be switched off
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| 23:14 | Ryan52: you can later ltsp-build-client --release=11 to install a rawhide chroot in /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 23:14 | Ryan52: after this fixed mkinitrd hits rawhide, or you can manually install my scratch build
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| 23:16 | <Ryan52> ok.
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| 23:19 | <warren> Ryan52: no rush to get it into rawhide, it is only an optimization to turn off unneeded services
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