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03:00 | <onixx> alkisg: hello again, I have a question when you use virtualbox for ltsp, do you get a message saying a new image is available each time you logout ?
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03:23 | alkisg: sorry to bug you again, I have done some reseach and can't find an answer for this: how can I get the keypad to work. I have numlock on and it does not type numbers unfortunately...
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05:54 | <alkisg> onixx: no, I don't get that message
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05:55 | onixx: X_NUMLOCK=True
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06:06 | <onixx> alkisg: I have tried this and same result
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06:06 | alkisg: problem on both the vm and the laptop
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06:06 | <alkisg> onixx: does keypad work if you turn it on manually by pressing numlock?
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06:07 | <onixx> alkisg: no.
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06:07 | <alkisg> Well then it's not related to ltsp
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06:07 | Ask in #ubuntu or something
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06:07 | Or in #hardware
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06:08 | <onixx> alkisg: maybe xfce4
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06:08 | <alkisg> Try in ldm
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06:08 | While typing the username
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06:08 | This is not related to any desktop environment
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06:35 | <onixx> alkisg: looks like its something to do with the vm because with a real keyboard on the laptop it looks good
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06:35 | probably vnc acting up
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06:35 | <alkisg> yes, vnc often breaks keys
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15:40 | <onixx> Hello again. I was wondering if I can run epoptes on one of my fat clients vs directly on the server screen ?
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15:54 | <alkisg> Yes, read the docs on its site
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15:54 | epoptes.org/documentation
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15:58 | <onixx> alkisg: thanks. I will give it a shot
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16:16 | <ian_j> does ltsp use aufs or overlayfs currently?
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16:17 | <alkisg> ian_j: overlayfs, because aufs isn't very available nowadays
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16:17 | <ian_j> ok thanks
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16:17 | <alkisg> It also supports aufs
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16:17 | You just need to install aufs manually, and ltsp uses it
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16:18 | Which distro are you interested in?\
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16:19 | <ian_j> I was using Centos last time.
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16:19 | I wasn't really using ltsp for its intended purpose. I was attempting to launch diskless webserver instances
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16:21 | <alkisg> I'm not sure about centos, it might e.g. be using unionfs or something else
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16:21 | I was talking about debian/ubuntu
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16:21 | <ian_j> If I was to do it again I would probably use debian as my starting point
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16:25 | I never quite understood how ltsp was able to keep the node information for multiple clients
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16:27 | I'm guessing there is some clever way of using the union fs and storing the node data by mac address or something
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16:27 | <alkisg> I don't know what "node information" means for you\
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16:27 | LTSP root file system is not writeable
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16:27 | <ian_j> desktop state for a particular login/computer
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16:27 | or logs etc
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16:27 | <alkisg> /home/username is saved via nfs/sshfs
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16:28 | Logs etc aren't saved
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16:28 | No machine state
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16:29 | <ian_j> that's a bit of an issue for a webserver
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16:29 | I guess it would be possible to use syslogd to write them to another server for monitoring
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16:32 | <alkisg> ltsp supports forwarding syslog from the clients to the ltsp server
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16:32 | <ian_j> ah, is that an option or on by default?
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16:33 | <alkisg> Option in lts.conf
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16:33 | lts.conf is the configuration file for all clients
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16:33 | <ian_j> I didn't know of that option or I'd certainly have tried it
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16:33 | <alkisg> You can also forward more dirs except for /home/username, via nfs/sshfs
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16:34 | <ian_j> what happens if you forward something like /var?
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16:34 | would each ltsp client attempt to use the same dir?
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16:59 | <alkisg> yes, and it would fail because locks that go in var don't work reliably over the network\
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17:00 | If you want such things, you could export an nbd state image per client
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17:00 | writeable
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17:00 | E.g. an nbd for /var and /srv
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17:10 | <ian_j> that sounds like what I needed, and yes, I ran into all kinds of issues with file locks when experimenting.
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17:11 | certain files needed to be writable for the mail system etc and weren't with what I had at the time
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