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Channel log from 23 December 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:45 | <joeoshawa> help???
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| 00:46 | please
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| 00:46 | <muppis> Just ask. If someone knows, s/he answers.
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| 00:46 | And I should start reading buffers..
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| 00:47 | joeoshawa, what is your actual command to start build clients?
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| 00:50 | <joeoshawa> one sec
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| 00:50 | sudo ltsp-build-client —-arch i386
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| 00:51 | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/NfLiVdCr
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| 00:51 | this is the result
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| 00:52 | i got dhcp working after much hair removal and fallout
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| 00:55 | <muppis> joeoshawa, looks like it doesn't get that --arch at all. If you're using only i386 clients look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients#Creating%20ltsp-build-client.conf
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| 00:56 | <joeoshawa> i agree looking now thanks
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| 00:56 | <alkisg> (08:51:06 AM) joeoshawa: sudo ltsp-build-client —-arch i386 ==> watch the dashes, they are different
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| 00:57 | <joeoshawa> i copy and pasted that maybe it was wrong
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| 00:58 | it says specific to 9.1 and 10.04 i am 10.10 will that be a problme
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| 00:58 | problem
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| 00:59 | <muppis> It works fine. I think should say specific to 9.1 and above.
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| 00:59 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: no, just try typing this by yourself
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| 00:59 | it's --, not —-
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| 01:00 | sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
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| 01:02 | <joeoshawa> sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
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| 01:02 | k just checking
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| 01:04 | running now this takes forever
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| 01:04 | i can't believe that was it but i mean i spent the last two days on dhcp so my brain is fried
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| 01:05 | the whole two nic's and two subnet and what a subnet sis etc etc etc
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| 02:03 | <gnunux> hi
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| 05:00 | <baiki> why can i just login with one username. new ones won't be accepted (sshd says all succeeded with auth though)
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| 05:02 | <Gremble> did you select a session first?
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| 05:20 | <baiki> @grembie, no i did not since with my own username on this thin client i don't have problem, just the new ones. but will try to choose session first!
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| 06:01 | <baiki> how to fix this one: http://pastebin.com/8m1CLv1j
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| 06:16 | <alkisg> !compiz
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| 06:16 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients (LP #673072). To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
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| 06:16 | <alkisg> baiki: this is probably your problem ^
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| 06:16 | !disable_compiz
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| 06:16 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "disable_compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 06:17 | <alkisg> baiki: try this ^^^ and if it solves your problem, mention it in the bug report and also attach your ~/.xsession-errors there
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| 06:17 | ...and your client graphics card model, with lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 06:20 | <baiki> thanks a lot. will do so. and where can i find this bug report (or do i have to start one?)?
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| 06:25 | <baiki> but will this compiz change affect also the server settings? or just for for thin clients?
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| 06:52 | <alkisg> baiki: yes, it will affect the server tooo
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| 06:52 | Do you want compiz on the server?
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| 06:52 | <alkisg> The bug report is there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/673072
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| 06:54 | <baiki> @alkisg: ok, will test today or tomorrow. thanks a lot!
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| 07:05 | <baiki> merry xmess
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| 07:44 | <robehend1> alkisg: An update to your N-computing question you had asked a few weeks ago. I came in this morning to discover a normal windows update had broken their V-space software, requiring me to rollback the update, and reinstall the vspace for all my workstations. That was N-computings fix for the problem, mind you. No patch. Just uninstall the needed security updates so our stuff works again!
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| 07:56 | <alkisg> robehend1: heh... thanks for the info, I already convinced the other teachers here not to even try it :)
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| 07:57 | <robehend1> wooo
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| 08:00 | <muppis> robehend1, you asked about possible Windows IO issues in KVM. I tested today with XP and according that short testing against net and disk IO, I was pleased even without using virtio drivers.
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| 08:01 | robehend1, so my advice about that was outdated.
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| 08:04 | <robehend1> niiiice
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| 08:05 | that'll make it much easier to setup next week
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| 08:05 | espicially since the machine will only be a backup domain controller, no dns/dhcp/printers/etc
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| 08:06 | <muppis> And if you provide actual hardware for HDD, then you should hapy. We are using qcow2 imagefile.
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| 08:06 | happy..
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| 08:07 | <robehend1> yep, it gets its own HD as well, since the other VM ill have on there will be LTSP, and I dont want Disk I/O fights
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| 08:11 | <muppis> Sounds good.
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| 08:13 | <robehend1> then i quit installing a full 10.04 image just for the kids to use firefox in the kindergarten room. Oh happy day.
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| 08:45 | <alkisg> Is there a reason nbdswapd can't create sparse files? They're shared over the network, is it a problem if they're sparse?
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| 08:45 | (i.e. I think the client won't know they're sparse...)
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| 08:48 | <joeoshawa> i got a dell t500 with 640 meg ram i am thin clienting dhcp is working and ltsp is up when i reboot the client i see eth1 nic link go down then come back up when the client passes bios
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| 08:49 | but i get operating system not found
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| 08:49 | on the client
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| 08:51 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: sounds like you have not set the client to PXE boot
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| 08:51 | <joeoshawa> i set network as the first boot option
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| 08:52 | <Gadi> did the client do: DHCP .......
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| 08:52 | <joeoshawa> no
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| 08:52 | <Gadi> then, it is not properly set
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| 08:52 | <joeoshawa> i was thinking maybe a bios update
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| 08:53 | <Gadi> sometimes there is a separate BIOS option for network booting
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> There might be 3 options in bios: (1) enable onboard LAN (2) enable boot rom (3) boot priority, first=lan
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| 08:53 | <Gadi> aside from the boot order
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| 08:53 | <joeoshawa> going into bios now
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| 08:54 | omg it takes forever
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| 08:54 | plug and play os to no?
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| 08:54 | reset config data
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| 08:54 | <alkisg> But is this card onboard? Or is in on a PCI slot?
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| 08:55 | <joeoshawa> pci
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> Then it might not have a boot rom on it
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| 08:55 | <joeoshawa> no onboard its a p111 500
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> ok
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| 08:56 | <joeoshawa> so why would it have a network boot option
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| 08:58 | <alkisg> The BIOS is a generic software, to be used on computers with or without onboard NICs
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| 08:58 | If the NIC is not onboard an is on a PCI slot, then it can be whatever NIC - the BIOS can't know how to initialize all possible NICs in the world
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| 08:59 | *and
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| 09:00 | <jammcq> happy christmas and merry new year everybody
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> somebody's got his English on
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| 09:00 | ;)
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| 09:00 | <jammcq> hey Gadi
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> hey hey, jammcq
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| 09:00 | <joeoshawa> so using it to network boot is impossible?
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| 09:01 | <Gadi> "happy christmas"? jammcq - watching too much Harry Potter? :)
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| 09:01 | joeoshawa: go to etherboot.org and make yourself a boot floppy or boot CD
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| 09:01 | !etherboot
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| 09:01 | <ltspbot> Gadi: Error: "etherboot" is not a valid command.
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> hmmm
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| 09:02 | !topics
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| 09:02 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "topics" :: To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> !factoids search values
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| 09:02 | <ltspbot> Gadi: No keys matched that query.
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| 09:02 | <jammcq> harry potter? never seen it
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> !factoids search --values
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| 09:02 | <ltspbot> Gadi: More than 100 keys matched that query; please narrow your query.
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> grr
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| 09:02 | <jammcq> well... I did go to one of the movies with my kids, but quickly fell asleep
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> !gpxe
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| 09:02 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "gpxe" :: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
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| 09:02 | <Gadi> ah!
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| 09:02 | <joeoshawa> will do thanks
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| 09:03 | <Gadi> jammcq: lol
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| 09:03 | jammcq: its nothing to be ashamed of
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| 09:03 | jammcq: we all know about the costumes in your closet
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| 09:03 | :)
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| 09:03 | <jammcq> all of them?
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| 09:03 | ugh
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| 09:27 | <alkisg> Heh, ok, nbdswapd is already using sparse files. :D
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| 09:27 | Forgot about that
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| 09:28 | * alkisg increases the local default for greek schools to 512Mb... | |
| 09:45 | <joeoshawa> downloaded the source tree but it says make: *** No rule to make target `bin/gpxe.dsk'. Stop.
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| 09:45 | it me i am sure but what am i doing wrong
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| 09:47 | lol first of all wrong command but i have a feeling the cd command will have the same result
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| 09:48 | <joeoshawa> nm got it
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: you don't need to compile it, you can download a disk directly from their site
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| 10:01 | <joeoshawa> already done but for some reason it keeps ejecting the disk
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| 10:03 | for some reason it just keeps spitting it out
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| 10:04 | <joeoshawa> the read light flashes for a while then it spits it out
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| 10:04 | i will switch the cdroms and try again
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| 10:06 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: does that client have a hard disk with an OS in it?
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| 10:09 | <joeoshawa> no
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| 10:09 | no hdd connected
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| 10:09 | it was the cd rom
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| 10:09 | i have two in one connected i switched them and it worked i will tell you if it boots
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| 10:13 | ok this is what i get DHCP (net0.00.50:fc:54:c4:8e).... ok
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| 10:14 | net0: 192.168.0.20/255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.3
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| 10:15 | booting from filename "ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"
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| 10:15 | connection timed out
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| 10:15 | could not boot blah blah blah connetion timed out
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| 10:15 | no more network divices
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| 10:16 | devices
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| 10:16 | <muppis> Looked good till connection timeout.
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| 10:16 | <joeoshawa> yeah i was excited
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> Check your tftp settings
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| 10:16 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 10:18 | <joeoshawa> checking the link hold on
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| 10:18 | thanks
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| 10:20 | running but no processes
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| 10:21 | let me make sure the file is there
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| 10:23 | first off its not there
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| 10:30 | <m4xx> i'm trying to run freenx with ltsp, i'm able to boot the client and login, but when on a thin client and i open msoffice using crossover then attempt to print something the connection dies. and i'm prompted with the login screen again. This does not seem to happen when using a the windows client.
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| 10:31 | <joeoshawa> hey
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| 10:31 | there is no ltsp directory there
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| 10:32 | but i need to know which one to point it to that file is in many places on ubuntu
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| 10:32 | 10 files found
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| 10:34 | should i point it to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386?
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| 10:35 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: grep TFTP_DIRECTORY /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 10:35 | m4xx: "when on a thin client"... you run freenx from a thin client to connect to an nx server?
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| 10:35 | <m4xx> yes sir
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| 10:36 | well, i'm running nomachines client
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| 10:36 | <alkisg> m4xx: erm, freenx or nxclient from nomachine?
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| 10:36 | :)
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| 10:36 | And the problem only happens when you try to print?
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| 10:37 | <m4xx> i think it happens when it tries to grab the printers
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| 10:37 | like the printer list
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| 10:37 | <alkisg> Did you enable printer sharing in the nx client settings?
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| 10:37 | <m4xx> i'm not trying to print to a printer connected or networked with the client
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| 10:37 | <joeoshawa> TFTP_DIRECTORY="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 10:37 | <m4xx> i'm trying to print to the server's printer
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| 10:38 | not sure how to properly phrase this
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| 10:38 | <joeoshawa> so it is booting from the right directory
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| 10:38 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 - is it there?
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| 10:38 | <joeoshawa> yes
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| 10:39 | <m4xx> i'm using office 2007, when i go to the print menu when it tries to populate the printers it crashes
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| 10:39 | <joeoshawa> i did a search for files it is there
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> m4xx: can you try that directly from the LTSP server, and not from a thin client? If it crashes from there too, then it isn't an LTSP problem...
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| 10:39 | <m4xx> it does not
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| 10:40 | i first got everything working with the standard setup befor trying this
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| 10:40 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: ok, continue the troubleshooting process, try to install tftp-hpa (the client) somewhere and to download the file as the wiki page suggests
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| 10:41 | <joeoshawa> ok will have to continue later gtg
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| 10:41 | kids hungry
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| 10:41 | but very frustrating
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| 10:41 | <alkisg> m4xx: do you see anything in the user's ~/.xsession-errors ?
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| 10:42 | <m4xx> http://pastebin.us/1853
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| 10:52 | <joeoshawa> root@robinson:/opt/ltsp# grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /srv/tftp
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| 10:52 | it says it should contain nothing
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| 10:53 | sorry should return nothing
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| 10:56 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: comment out that line in that files, then do: sudo /etc/init.d/opendbsd-inetd restart; sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
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| 10:56 | joeoshawa: then reboot the terminal
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| 11:00 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart sudo: /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa: command not found
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| 11:01 | <alkisg> sudo restart tftpd-hpa
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| 11:03 | <joeoshawa> terminal rebooting
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| 11:06 | <joeoshawa> grrrrr
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| 11:06 | same
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| 11:13 | commented out the lines but still coming back the same
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| 11:14 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: did you follow the instructions of the wiki page? Are all those correct?
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| 11:14 | <joeoshawa> when i run the grep tftp /etc/inet.d.conf still comes back with all that
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| 11:15 | <alkisg> Then remove that line from inetd.conf...
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| 11:21 | <joeoshawa> what if i rename it and add .old and make a blank inet.d.conf
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| 11:22 | inetd.conf
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| 11:23 | <alkisg> Is that easier than removing a single line?!
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| 11:23 | Don't make a blank file, the other services won't work
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| 11:25 | <joeoshawa> so what line do i remove there are four
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| 11:25 | <alkisg> grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 11:26 | Paste the output here
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| 11:26 | <joeoshawa> # tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /srv/tftp
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| 11:27 | <alkisg> If that's the output, then you don't need to delete anything, your inetd.conf is ok in regards to tftp
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| 11:29 | Proceed with the rest of the troubleshooting steps
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| 11:36 | <joeoshawa> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7686 2010-08-26 01:47 lts.conf
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| 11:36 | this is not there
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| 11:42 | that is the last problem i see
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| 12:02 | sudo apt-get install tftp-hpa
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| 12:02 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: to solve the problem faster, wanna vnc?
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| 12:02 | <joeoshawa> cd /tmp $ tftp 10.160.31.10 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 mode set to octet Connected to 10.160.31.10 (10.160.31.10), port 69 getting from 10.160.31.10:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [octet] Received 14776 bytes in 0.0 seconds [2672575 bit/s]
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| 12:03 | <alkisg> Ah, so tftp works
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| 12:03 | Nice
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| 12:03 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ tftp 10.160.31.10 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 mode set to octet Connected to 10.160.31.10 (10.160.31.10), port 69 getting from 10.160.31.10:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [octet] Transfer timed out.
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| 12:03 | <alkisg> Erm no, this is my ip
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| 12:03 | <joeoshawa> sorry that one is mine
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| 12:03 | <alkisg> Try with your own ip
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| 12:03 | 10.160.31.10 is my ip, try with yours
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| 12:08 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo tftp 192.168.0.3 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 mode set to octet Connected to 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3), port 69 getting from 192.168.0.3:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [octet] Error code 2: Access violation
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| 12:09 | permissions problem?
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| 12:11 | host kerr {
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| 12:11 | hardware ethernet 00:50:fc:54:c4:8e;
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| 12:11 | filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 12:11 | server-name "kerr.robinson.ca";
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| 12:11 | }
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| 12:11 | | |
| 12:12 | in dhcp.conf
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| 12:13 | that is the client portion
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| 12:13 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: you have a tftp problem - your dhcp configuration is irrelevant
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| 12:14 | <joeoshawa> ok so what should i do
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| 12:14 | access violation sounds like a permission thing
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: try again without "sudo" in front
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| 12:15 | also remove /tmp/pxelinux.0 if it's there
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| 12:16 | so:
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| 12:16 | sudo rm /tmp/pxelinux.0
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| 12:16 | cd /tmp
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| 12:16 | tftp 192.168.0.3 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:19 | <joeoshawa> did that before sudo just erased file did again still same
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> OK, next: ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:20 | What's the output? Paste it here. Without sudo.
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| 12:23 | <joeoshawa> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26742 2010-12-23 02:29 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> (08:19:54 PM) joeoshawa: did that before sudo just erased file ==> do you mean that there was a file in /tmp/pxelinux.0?
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| 12:23 | If so, then tftp was successful...
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| 12:24 | <joeoshawa> yeah it connects thats what i am tellng you but it violates the file is empty
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> Hmmm....
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| 12:24 | grep OPTIONS /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 12:24 | What does this return?
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| 12:26 | <joeoshawa> TFTP_OPTIONS="--secure"
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:28 | <joeoshawa> oe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:28 | joe 22469 22060 0 13:28 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
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| 12:29 | <Gadi> your tftp is still running out of inetd
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| 12:29 | <alkisg> Heh nice one Gadi :) joeoshawa you didn't restart tftp...
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| 12:29 | <m4xx> hmm, also broken on linux client on the server it self, perhaps it's nomachine's app that's broken
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| 12:29 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: did you do: sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
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| 12:29 | <alkisg> (07:02:27 PM) alkisg: sudo restart tftpd-hpa
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| 12:29 | <joeoshawa> yes will again
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Hmmm better yet, `sudo start tftpd-hpa` since it's not running yet
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| 12:32 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 12:32 | start: Job is already running: tftpd-hpa
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| 12:32 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: you will know if you are good if when you do "ps -efw|grep tftp", you get a line like:
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| 12:32 | root 31601 1 0 13:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address 0.0.0.0:69 --secure /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 12:33 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo restart tftpd-hpa
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| 12:33 | tftpd-hpa start/running
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| 12:33 | joe@robinson:/tmp$
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| 12:33 | oe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:33 | joe 22481 22060 0 13:34 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
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| 12:33 | joe@robinson:/tmp$
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| 12:34 | * Gadi thinks you never fixed you inetd.conf file | |
| 12:34 | <joeoshawa> i did it comes back empty
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| 12:34 | <Gadi> does your inetd.conf file still have the tftp line?
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: try this:
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| 12:34 | sudo service openbsd-inetd stop
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| 12:34 | sudo stop tftpd-hpa
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| 12:34 | sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 12:34 | ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:35 | <Gadi> right
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| 12:37 | <joeoshawa> 22518 pts/0 S+ 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto tftp ORBIT_SOCKETDIR=/tmp/orbit-joe SSH_AGENT_PID=14429 TERM=xterm SHELL=/bin/bash XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=604795d1b2dab8b81868b30a00000008-1293043727.538397-114584177 WINDOWID=16777220 OLDPWD=/home/joe GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-x7rROD GTK_MODULES=canberra-gtk-module USER=joe LS_COLORS=rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=3
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| 12:37 | 7;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.tlz=01;31:*.txz=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.lz=01;31:*.xz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*
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| 12:37 | .bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.svgz=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.flv=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xc
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| 12:37 | f=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.cgm=01;35:*.emf=01;35:*.axv=01;35:*.anx=01;35:*.ogv=01;35:*.ogx=01;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36:*.axa=00;36:*.oga=00;36:*.spx=00;36:*.xspf=00;36: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-x7rROD/ssh DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/gnome.default.path SESSION_MANAGER=local/robinson.ca:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/14391,unix/r
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| 12:37 | obinson.ca:/tmp/.ICE-unix/14391 USERNAME=joe XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-gnome:/etc/xdg DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome PATH=/home/joe/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games PWD=/tmp GDM_KEYBOARD_LAYOUT=us LANG=en_CA.utf8 GNOME_KEYRING_PID=14372 MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/gnome.mandatory.path GDM_LANG=en_CA.utf8 GDMSESSION=gnome SHLVL=1 HOME=/home/joe GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated LOGNA
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| 12:37 | ME=joe XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/gnome:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-w2mgKNY403,guid=78fb21e656210dae59168f6a000006d6 LESSOPEN=| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s WINDOWPATH=7 DISPLAY=:0.0 LESSCLOSE=/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s XAUTHORITY=/var/run/gdm/auth-for-joe-FqOpRL/database COLORTERM=gnome-terminal _=/bin/grep
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| 12:38 | <m4xx> ouch
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| 12:42 | <joeoshawa> love the face looks like my server is telling me to kiss it you know where
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| 12:44 | * Gadi thinks you made a typo | |
| 12:45 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo service openbsd-inetd stop
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| 12:45 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo stop tftpd-hpa
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| 12:45 | tftpd-hpa stop/waiting
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| 12:45 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 12:45 | tftpd-hpa start/running
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| 12:45 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ ps efw|grep tftp
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| 12:45 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:45 | note the dash
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| 12:45 | <joeoshawa> oops lol
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| 12:46 | joe 22540 22060 0 13:46 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
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| 12:46 | <Gadi> try: sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
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| 12:47 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
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| 12:47 | udp6 0 0 :::69 :::* 1793/xinetd
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| 12:47 | <alkisg> Hehe
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| 12:47 | <Gadi> xinetd!!!!!!!
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| 12:47 | <alkisg> Much worse than we thought :D
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| 12:48 | <joeoshawa> so what's the problem?
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> joeoshawa: ls /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
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| 12:49 | joeoshawa: the problem is you had three different servers installed all dying to be a tftp server
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| 12:49 | joeoshawa: not sure how you managed that
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| 12:49 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ ls /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
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| 12:49 | ls: cannot access /etc/xinetd.d/tftp: No such file or directory
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> find /etc|grep xinetd
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| 12:50 | * Gadi has no clue where xinetd is configured | |
| 12:50 | <joeoshawa> sudo apt-get remove xinetd?
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> in fact - do you need xinetd for anything?
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| 12:50 | <joeoshawa> not really
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> better- sudo apt-get purge xinetd
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| 12:51 | once that is done, make sure you:
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| 12:51 | sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
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| 12:51 | sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start
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| 12:51 | ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:56 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
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| 12:56 | * Restarting internet superserver inetd [ OK ]
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| 12:56 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo restart tftpd-hpa
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| 12:56 | tftpd-hpa start/running
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| 12:56 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 12:56 | joe 22841 22060 0 13:57 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
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| 12:56 | joe@robinson:/tmp$
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
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| 12:58 | (perhaps xinetd is still running)
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| 12:59 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
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| 12:59 | joe@robinson:/tmp$
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| 12:59 | lol i thought about that line and didn't realise you asked
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| 13:00 | <Gadi> hmm... well, now tftp-hpa has no excuses
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| 13:00 | it should start
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| 13:00 | * Gadi wonders why it is not | |
| 13:01 | <joeoshawa> wow
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| 13:01 | compicated
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| 13:01 | complicated
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| 13:01 | even
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| 13:01 | <Gadi> not usually
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| 13:02 | and if you do: sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 13:02 | <joeoshawa> sujoe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 13:02 | start: Job is already running: tftpd-hpa
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| 13:03 | <Gadi> sudo stop tftpd-hpa
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| 13:03 | sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 13:03 | ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 13:04 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo stop tftpd-hpa
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| 13:04 | tftpd-hpa stop/waiting
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| 13:04 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
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| 13:04 | tftpd-hpa start/running
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| 13:04 | joe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
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| 13:04 | joe 22855 22060 0 14:04 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
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| 13:04 | joe@robinson:/tmp$
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| 13:04 | remove and reinstall tftp?
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> joeoshawa: try with service: sudo service tftpd-hpa restart
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| 13:05 | Then check netstat again, aand if it still fails check: tail /var/log/daemon.log
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| 13:07 | <joeoshawa> joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
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| 13:07 | joe@robinson:/tmp$
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:51:57 robinson xinetd[1793]: Exiting...
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:53:33 robinson tftpd[22776]: unknown option -?
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:53:33 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process (22776) terminated with status 1
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:53:33 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:56:55 robinson tftpd[22839]: unknown option -?
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:56:55 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process (22839) terminated with status 1
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 13:56:55 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 14:04:20 robinson tftpd[22853]: unknown option -?
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 14:04:20 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process (22853) terminated with status 1
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| 13:07 | Dec 23 14:04:20 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> OK, the unknown option is the problem
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| 13:08 | Paste your /etc/defaults/tftpd-hpa
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 13:08 | (without s)
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| 13:09 | <joeoshawa> # /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 13:09 | | |
| 13:09 | TFTP_USERNAME="tftp"
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| 13:09 | TFTP_DIRECTORY="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 13:09 | TFTP_ADDRESS="0.0.0.0:69"
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| 13:09 | TFTP_OPTIONS="--secure"
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| 13:11 | <alkisg> Did you change any scripts in /etc/init?
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| 13:11 | (and particularly /etc/init/tftpd-hpa.conf ?)
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| 13:12 | <joeoshawa> i don't believe so
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| 13:12 | <Gadi> im gonna go with purging and reinstalling
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| 13:12 | :)
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> Which ubuntu version is that?
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| 13:12 | <joeoshawa> 10.10
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> I'll go with Gadi too :)
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| 13:12 | sudo apt-get purge tftpd-hpa
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| 13:13 | sudo apt-get install tftpd-hpa
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| 13:15 | <joeoshawa> tftpd-hpa directory (/var/lib/tftpboot) already exists, doing nothing.
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| 13:15 | start: Job is already running: tftpd-hpa
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| 13:15 | could that be a problem
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> And tail /var/log/daemon.log still complains about the invalid option?
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| 13:16 | <joeoshawa> yep
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| 13:16 | <Gadi> can you reboot the server?
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| 13:17 | <alkisg> Ooooh windows tactics... :P
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| 13:17 | <Gadi> might be the quickest way to keep from going mad
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| 13:17 | <joeoshawa> yeah i am on it
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| 13:17 | brb
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| 13:28 | <baiki> @alkisg @ltspbot outstanding work! now i can login with newly created users. and it does not affect host system (maybe wrong terminology).
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| 13:28 | <alkisg> baiki: it does affect your server, it disables compiz
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| 13:28 | baiki: please mention your experience in the bug report so that it's solved
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| 13:31 | <baiki> @ sorry for not beeing really master of english language. it works, wo/ affecting the server's X11 setup! just give me time to do all of this. my friend i am sitting in gambia for almost 8 years. guess what.... our internet connections really....
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| 13:31 | it does not affect my server.
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| 13:31 | just for the record
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| 13:32 | <alkisg> It disables compiz for ALL users on the server
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| 13:32 | So if you login with some client on the server, you can't have compiz effects
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| 13:32 | The same for thin clients too
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| 13:32 | *if you login with some *user on the server...
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| 13:34 | vagrantc: care to comment on a new crazy idea? What if I changed a few scripts so that /opt/ltsp/i386 could be netbooted with NFS (rw) from a vbox client? This way teachers could customize their fat chroots by using a GUI, with only minor changes in the current code... any downsides?
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| 13:36 | <baiki> @alkisg i don't need those fancy effects anyway. old-fashioned... i know. however, guess I have to follow up this bug report now and share my experience....
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> baiki: also mention your graphics card, `lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA`, and attach your ~/.xsession-errors (especially that line about power of 2 textures)
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| 13:41 | <baiki> yes i will. still struggeling after login where to append my 5 cents....
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| 13:42 | <m4xx> anyone use qtnx on ubuntu by any chance?
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| 13:47 | <vagrantc> alkisg: and you'd just make 127.0.0.1 writeable?
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| 13:47 | alkisg: only downside i'd see is if any clients are running simultaneously
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| 13:48 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i.e. one "teacher" has another session booted that they forgot about, which conflicts with the changes the currently running machine is writing
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| 13:48 | alkisg: or two teachers fighting over the same mount
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ok we can assume that only one teacher will be using the rw moun t
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| 13:52 | and only one session...
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| 13:52 | OK I'll try it to see how it goes and I'll try to implement it with as few changes as possible
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| 13:53 | <vagrantc> if there's any way you can safeguard against that, i think it would be worth doing :)
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| 13:53 | <m4xx> or know of another nx client for linux other than the nomachine and qtnx
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| 13:54 | <vagrantc> i didn't even know about qtnx
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| 13:54 | <m4xx> it just freezes when i try to connect =\
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> One safeguard could be a lock in /var/somewhere, and an initscript that sets it, checks it, deletes it on shut down, and prompts the user if "the lock exists, if you're absolutely sure that noone else is booting rw from that disk, press y to delete it or n to reboot"
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| 14:02 | <vagrantc> yeah, something like that seems reasonable
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| 14:03 | very early in the boot process
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| 14:03 | maybe in the initramfs, even
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| 14:03 | <alkisg> And blocking
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| 14:03 | Right
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| 14:06 | Hmmm ipconfig in natty doesn't seem to work at all with my vbox client... :(
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> And IPAPPEND 3 doesn't work either (with the stock scripts, without LTSP)
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| 14:10 | <baiki> @alkisg @ltspbot hope i did not make to many mistakes :-;
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| 14:10 | <alkisg> baiki: ltspbot is a program, no need to refer to it
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| 14:10 | <baiki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/673072
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| 14:10 | <alkisg> It's a script that remembers stuff that we tell it to
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| 14:11 | <baiki> ok. shame on me
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> Nice, thanks for the feedback
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| 14:16 | <baiki> man, i am grateful. my installation really works. and now into the details...
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| 14:17 | <knipwim> are there any plans to version tag the ltsp-doc-trunk as well?
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> Ugh rookie mistake, forgot "boot=nfs" in the kernel command line :D
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| 14:27 | <baiki> @alkisg do you think some guys read this bug report?
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Some :)
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| 14:27 | It'd be best if it was forwarded upstream though :(
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| 14:28 | <baiki> your're a fast typer...
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| 14:28 | can I???? do that?
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> I don't have any clients that experience that problem so I can't report it
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| 14:28 | Sure
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| 14:30 | <baiki> @alkisg what do you think about ruby and to some extend ROR?
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> Erm, nothing? :) I've never seen either...
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| 14:31 | <baiki> ok
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> baiki: that lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA, where was it executed? On the server, on a thin client session, or locally on a client?
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| 14:34 | <baiki> @alkisg on the server (in this case an IBM laptop). what should I have delivered?
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| 14:34 | or mentioned?
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| 14:34 | <alkisg> !localxterm
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| 14:34 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> Can you run it again, this time from a localxterm on the thin client that had the problem?
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| 14:36 | <baiki> The TC didn't create this problem. i got as a donation 3 hp t3350 thin clients and another hp.
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| 14:36 | will run your code.
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> Wait, where did you experience that problem? While logging in with new users on the server (==ibm laptop)?!
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| 14:37 | Or while logging in on some thin client?
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| 14:37 | <baiki> thin client. not my laptop=server (not a VM).
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| 14:38 | <robehend1> wooo. my primary dns is acting up. goood day
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> baiki: so please run that command again on a localxterm on the thin client, the problem is with its graphics card driver
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| 14:39 | <vagrantc> knipwim: i've wondered about that too
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| 14:39 | knipwim: versioning ltsp-docs
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| 14:39 | <baiki> does it help if i tell that its an VIA S3?
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| 14:42 | <knipwim> vagrantc: don't know about the other distros
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| 14:42 | but on gentoo i could make a versioned package for the docs also
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| 14:43 | <vagrantc> knipwim: well, in debian i've versioned it as 0.99+bzrNNN
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| 14:43 | so it does have a version, just not a tagged version
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| 14:44 | (and ubuntu's inherrited that
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| 14:44 | <knipwim> i guess i could use the date of the release as version number
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| 14:44 | <vagrantc> i just use the bzr revision
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| 14:44 | but dates work, too
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| 14:45 | <knipwim> do you make release for each commit then?
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| 14:45 | <vagrantc> effectively
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| 14:45 | well, no, i make a release when i make a release
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| 14:45 | <knipwim> :)
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| 14:45 | <alkisg> baiki: yes, but lspci is more accurate
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| 14:46 | I think the openchrome driver is the one that has the problem
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| 14:46 | <vagrantc> knipwim: i.e. there may be a few commits skipped
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| 14:46 | <knipwim> yes, when ltsp-trunk is version tagged, the docs can also be released for their highest commit
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| 14:46 | <baiki> @alkisg sill surely do all of this. and i guess all from this hp t3350 thin client? ok?
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| 14:47 | <alkisg> Right
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| 14:47 | <vagrantc> knipwim: well, they're not always consistant
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| 14:47 | <baiki> ok
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| 14:47 | <vagrantc> knipwim: sometimes the docs don't include all changes relevent to a given ltsp-trunk
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| 14:47 | knipwim: and sometimes they'll only contain changes relevent to ldm, or ltspfs
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| 14:47 | <baiki> tomorrow, now i chill :-) cheers
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| 14:48 | <knipwim> i was planning to use it for the lts.conf manual for now
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| 14:49 | since the package for building the pdf isn't stable on gentoo at the moment
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| 16:07 | <alkisg> First step done - booted a natty non-ltsp chroot via rw nfs. On to an ltsp chroot...
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| 20:35 | <mmarinb> Good Night everybody
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| 20:39 | Hello, i have some problems with LTSP over Debian. My machines can't find the image.
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