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Channel log from 17 March 2014   (all times are UTC)

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05:30
<igorek>
hi guys! maybe anyone can help me? i created local user in chroot /opt/ltsp/i386, but when thin station loaded I can't login to this user with error "can't cd home directory". But if I try login into chroot environment - I can success login.
05:31
chroot env - ubuntu 13.04
05:34
all permission are correct
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06:41
<work_alkisg>
igorek: you're supposed to use the server users, and not create users in the chroot
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07:33
<igorek>
wark_alksing: in fact of the matter is that I need is users chroot environment for specific task
07:34
<work_alkisg>
igorek: describe the task
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07:34
<alkisg>
You shouldn't need local authentication
07:34
It's another thing to run applications locally (localapps, fat clients etc) and another to authenticate in a chroot
07:41
<igorek>
yes, i need use specific local apps with LPT and COM ports
07:41
<alkisg>
Right, so you don't need a user in the chroot
07:42
!docs
07:42
<ltsp>
docs: For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/ For a PDF with official documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
07:42
<alkisg>
Read what are localapps and fat clients
07:42
!fatclients
07:42
<ltsp>
fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
07:42
<alkisg>
!localxterm
07:42
<ltsp>
localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
07:43
<igorek>
hmmmm, ok
07:43
я почитаю данный раздел документации
07:44
<alkisg>
Έγινε, καλή συνέχεια
07:53
stgraber: hi, I think you synced ltsp up to r2555, which is 5.5.1, right?
07:54
stgraber: you'll also need the rest of the commits after those... they're bug fixes, some of them important, solving boot issues etc
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<epoptes_user6>
top
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12:15
<amil>
can i run ltsp on a 32bit server
12:16
can i run ltsp from a 32 bit os
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<markosu>
I try to setup network for ltsp-pnp (lubuntu 12.04). Server have two nics. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7107883/
12:37
In that links there is nat-rules.sh script, where I put it to start on server boot?
12:38
I tried also follow this but there isnt dhcp3-server program? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/
12:40
There is lots of documentation but I cannot figure out what to use this time and what next.
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<stgraber>
work_alkisg: I merged the package from Debian, if there are more bugfixes we need, they should go into Debian first
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14:17
<alkisg>
stgraber: jessie feature freeze is months away, there will be many ltsp releases till then, so I don't know if vagrantc will make an ltsp release soon just for ubuntu
14:18
And the Greek schools have their own releases via their PPA, so I was mentioning it as upstream for your (ubuntu) ltsp users, in case you want them to have a more stable release
14:19
Although I think more and more Ubuntu users use the Greek schools PPA, so they don't use the Ubuntu packaging either, but the Debian one, so the version in 14.04 won't matter much anyway...
14:20
But feel free to ping vagrantc and ask him for another release if you want one
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<stgraber>
alkisg: for LTS releases I prefer not to cherry-pick patches, so yeah, another upstream release would be easier
14:32
<alkisg>
Cool, maybe vagrantc will make one
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14:55
<Jacson>
Hello am loong at LTSP.. But the boss was to try t from wndows wth out dumP hs wndows as frst. s there a wndow clent lr Remote DestoP for wndows but for LTSP
14:57
<Hyperbyte>
uh......... what?
14:57
Is your "i" key broken? And why are your letters "P" all capitals?
14:58
<Jacson>
\yes they just ded sorry a few other two
14:59
<Hyperbyte>
Hahaha. How can you possibly work like that?
14:59
:-)
14:59
Anyway, it's possibly to connect to RDP servers from LTSP. There's an rdesktop screen script.
15:00
And it's also possible to launch rdesktop from inside the desktop, if you want to keep using specific Windows applications from the Linux desktop, for example.
15:00
<Jacson>
very frustrated watng for a new eyboard from asus
15:01
<Hyperbyte>
The "k" is also gone I see. Makes it nearly impossible to write "bikini"
15:01
<Jacson>
the other way around sorry from wndows log on to LTSP
15:01
<Hyperbyte>
Oh, don't tell me - your nickname Jacson ... it's really supposed to be Jackson, isn't it?
15:02
<Jacson>
and Pussy excePt Paste in the P
15:03
yes that s so sad
15:03
lol
15:06
i have a lan to replace all the ms clent and server software wth lnux but have to wn them over slowly
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15:23
<Hyperbyte>
Jacson, LTSP is a solution for booting Linux over LAN.
15:23
If you want to provide Linux over LAN to already booted Windows clients, you can do that with something like x2go.
15:24
Few questions though.
15:24
What software do you use in Windows? What mail client, what web browser, what office suite?
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16:33
<hydruid1>
Is there an easy way to add "memtest" as a boot option with LTSP?
16:34
<Hyperbyte>
Yep.
16:35
Not sure how though, I bet alkisg can tell you that.
16:35
Wait around for a bit (read: few hours)... he'll be around.
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<hydruid1>
kk
16:37
Hyperbyte: ty
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<||cw>
hydruid1: same as with any linux PXE
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though bypassing the default boot to ltsp so you can pick memtest is a bit harder, unless you want to always have a pxe menu with a timeout
16:47
<Hyperbyte>
I thought alkisg had some hacks for /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ so it does PXE menu where you can choose memtest, boot LTSP NBD, boot LTSP NFS, etc....
16:48
Might be an ltsp-pnp thing, but I recall him having that.
16:51
<hydruid1>
||cw: there is already a short boot menu now
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<hydruid1>
pressing F8 prompts for boot from hard disk or network
16:52
<||cw>
ltsp-pnp would need its own method since it builds the pxe conf files too
16:53
hydruid1: PXE has its own menu support.
16:54
this is the basics http://wiki.seanmadden.net/networking/pxeboot/memtest_over_pxeboot
16:55
you'll need to modift the pxe conf's prompt, timeout, and ontimeout global settings
16:55
step 5 here show that http://www.thenoccave.com/2012/03/28/pxe-boot-memtest/
16:59
<hydruid1>
||cw: ty for the info
17:05
<Hyperbyte>
!learn ||cw as The backup LTSP oracle.
17:05
<ltsp>
Error: "|" with nothing preceding. I obviously can't do a pipe with nothing before the |.
17:05
<Hyperbyte>
oh noes. :(
17:05
<||cw>
lol
17:05
<Hyperbyte>
Well, it's the thought that counts. :P
17:05
<||cw>
na, I just know a lot of the tools ltsp uses
17:06
been using pxe for far longer than I have ltsp
17:06
<Hyperbyte>
:)
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19:02
<hydruid1>
alkisg: Hey there :) have a question for you
19:02
<alkisg>
Hello
19:02
<hydruid1>
alkisg: any recommendations for implementing memtest with LTSP?
19:02
<alkisg>
You just enable the menu in update-kernels.conf
19:03
<hydruid1>
alkisg: sounds so easy :)
19:03
so I just put the menu in there and then it works?
19:03
<alkisg>
cat /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
19:04
#PXELINUX_DEFAULT=menu
19:04
Uncomment this
19:04
<hydruid1>
alkisg: hmmm I don't have a cat /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
19:04
<alkisg>
In the chroot
19:05
<hydruid1>
ohhh ok
19:06
alkisg: ty!
19:07
alkisg: okay "PXELINUX_DEFAULT=menu" isn't listed in that file, so I assume that I just add it in
19:07
<alkisg>
distro/version?
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19:07
<hydruid1>
alkisg: ubuntu 12.04
19:08
<alkisg>
It was done in a different way back then, you might have to add it manually, I don't remember
19:08
<hydruid1>
kk let me try
19:08
alkisg: one more question, this summer I'm going to have to rebuild this same server, in your opinion, what is the best OS for LTSP?
19:08
I'll use just about anything except CentOS
19:08
<alkisg>
Then you're supposed to run /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels inside the chroot, and ltsp-update-kernels outside of it
19:09
I'm using ubuntu with the greek schools ppa in my sources, and I'm thinking of switching to debian sometime in the future
19:09
!greek-ppa
19:09
<ltsp>
Error: "greek-ppa" is not a valid command.
19:09
<alkisg>
!greek-schools-ppa
19:09
<ltsp>
greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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19:10
<hydruid1>
alkisg: ty I will take a look at that
19:10
alkisg: I'm excited for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to be released next month
19:11
<alkisg>
hydruid1: which not centos? Hyperbyte suggested to me to switch to that :)
19:11
I'm not; 14.04 is very broken
19:11
<hydruid1>
alkisg: I've never had good luck with CentOS
19:11
alkisg: ohh really? I haven't investigated much
19:12
<alkisg>
Too much innovation, so much that nothing really works anymore
19:14
<hydruid1>
alkisg: that does seem to be common with ubuntu
19:14
alkisg: okay have all that done now!
19:15
alkisg: now I just need to add a menu for memtest right?
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<hydruid1>
alkisg: tyvm for the help
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