IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 May 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:27 | <lunz> alkisg: hi, I'm testing out ltsp-pnp as an alternative to legacy ltsp on a xubuntu server in virtualbox, on your advice from a few days ago, but I'm getting pxe-t02 errors when trying to connect a client. I'm not sure whether it's a config problem or whether I'm using wrong virtualbox connections (ie, NAT)
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> Hi lunz, I'm working on multiseat support currently so I won't have much time for community support for the next weeks...
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| 08:28 | Ask in the channel, someone else might be available
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| 08:31 | <lunz> alkisg: sure, putting it out there for anyone. btw, how is multiseat computing different from terminal services like ltsp, if you dont mind me asking?
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| 08:31 | <alkisg> Multiseat is having 2 seats per computer (2 graphics cards etc)
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| 08:31 | So if one uses multiseat AND LTSP, he'll be able to have 12 seats with 6 computers
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| 08:33 | <lunz> anyone knows how to resolve pxe-t02 client errors in virtualbox (for starters; planning on doing a physical implementation sometime later today)?
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| 08:36 | i'm seeing online advice regarding pxe-t02 about editing the img path in dhcpd.conf correctly but that doesn't help in my case
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| 08:39 | alkisg: so you're saying basically more terminals can be extended, as resources allow, from each computer in an ltsp network?
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| 08:41 | <alkisg> Yes, it allows one computer with N graphics cards and N monitors and N mice and N keyboards, to serve N users
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| 08:41 | Usually N=2
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| 08:41 | I.e. 2 monitors/graphics cards/mice/keyboards per one pc,
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| 08:41 | thus serving 2 users from one pc
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| 08:47 | <lunz> alkisg: which brings me to a question I've been wondering about: in a regular ltsp setup, can there be multiplayer support among terminals? or is this a situation that multiseating is addressing?
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| 08:47 | <alkisg> multiseat currently is not supported in ltsp
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| 08:47 | That's what I'm looking to implement
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| 08:48 | <lunz> alkisg: ok, so essentially multiseat = multiplayer?
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| 08:49 | <alkisg> For me, multiplayer means online gaming with many players
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| 08:49 | So that's completely unrelated to LTSP, multiseat etc
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| 08:49 | I don't know what multiplayer means for you
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| 08:52 | <lunz> alkisg: I was thinking "multiplayer" in terms of shared interaction from individual users at their own terminals; yes, I appropriated the sense from gaming
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| 08:52 | but more widely applied
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> lunz: multiseat means having 1 computer tower, and 2 monitors/keyboard/mice, and users thinking that this is 2 different computers
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| 08:53 | What they do with those 2 different computers is unrelated
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| 08:53 | They can run games or libreoffice etc
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| 08:53 | So multiseat isn't about interaction, no
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| 08:54 | But of course LTSP and multiseat users can interact
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| 08:54 | There's a wikipedia page about multiseat if you want to read it
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| 08:54 | <lunz> alkisg: i see; i have a LOT to learn about ltsp capabilities; yes, i pulled up the wikipedia article
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| 09:01 | so anyone out there who can resolve pxe-t02 client errors in virtualbox, to begin with?
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| 11:13 | <lucas__> Sorry, someone speaks Spanish?
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| 17:24 | <Leolo_2> I'm trying to set up an LTSP FAT client
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| 17:24 | and all instructions are either incomplete or simply don't work
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| 17:25 | are LTSP FAT clients actually a thing or just a pipe dream?
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| 17:28 | also, all the instructions say "export /home as rw" which is about the worst thing one could possibly do
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| 17:49 | <||cw> pretty sure with ltsp5 it's automatic, and uses sshfs
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| 17:50 | maybe that require ltsp-pnp though
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| 17:50 | which is likely what you want anyway, it uses sshfs for the homes
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| 17:57 | <Leolo_2> ltsp-pnp is ubuntu-only
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| 17:57 | I'm setting this up on CentOS 6
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| 18:27 | <||cw> sounds like a good reason to try a new distro :)
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| 18:27 | maybe you can port some of it over to a standard install after you see it working
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| 18:39 | <gehidore> only ubuntu only if you choose for it to remain ubuntu only
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| 19:30 | <Leolo_2> aka "patches welcome"
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| 19:39 | <alkisg> Leolo_2: ltsp-pnp should be much easier to port to centos than the old fat clients implementation
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| 19:40 | It shouldn't require more than a couple of days
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| 19:40 | Also, is surely isn't a pipe dream, there are thousands of fat client installations out there
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| 21:04 | <Leolo_2> wait... ubuntu doesn't install ssh???!
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| 21:05 | <alkisg> it's preinstalled
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| 21:07 | <Leolo_2> I just install ubuntu, and had to do apt install ssh
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| 21:07 | <alkisg> which cd did you use to install ubuntu?
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| 21:08 | the server edition/
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| 21:08 | ?
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| 21:08 | <Leolo_2> ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> ssh is preinstalled
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| 21:08 | do you mean openssh-server?
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| 21:08 | the server isn't preinstalled, while the client is
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| 21:09 | <Leolo_2> yes, I did
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| 21:09 | <alkisg> if you actually did what you said and saw what you said you saw, then your installation was broken
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| 21:10 | did you see any failure messages while you were installing it?
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| 21:10 | <Leolo_2> yes
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| 21:10 | but nothing related to sshd
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| 21:10 | only stuff about "overlay scroll bar module" or something
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| 21:10 | <alkisg> don't confuse ssh with sshd
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| 21:11 | we're talking about ssh client, right?
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| 21:11 | <Leolo_2> no
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| 21:11 | we are talking about sshd server
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| 21:11 | <alkisg> see above ;)
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| 21:11 | <Leolo_2> sorry for the confusion. ssh is 2-way for me. getting in and getting out
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> that's why i specifically asked if we were talking about openssh-server or not, 2 minutes ago ;)
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| 21:12 | so yup openssh-server isn't preinstalled
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| 21:12 | it gets installed along with ltsp-server
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| 22:21 | <Leolo_2> ok, finally got ltsp-pnp working
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| 22:21 | now to find out what it's actually doing
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| 22:58 | <Leolo_2> ok, now I need to get root on the ltsp client
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