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Channel log from 2 April 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 12:38 | <jammcq> good morning friends
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| 12:52 | <elias_a> Good afternoon, jammcq!
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| 12:55 | <jammcq> :)
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| 13:38 | <gbaman> vagrantc it didnt work :)
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| 13:41 | vagrantc an error in your guide btw was in this line # edit /boot/commandline.txt:The file is actually called cmdline.txt
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| 13:42 | but, the raspberry pi now boots fine and when i log in it now is logged in as pi@ltsp0
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| 13:43 | so the ltsp-client stuff is working
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| 13:48 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 13:51 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 15:28 | * vagrantc waves to gbaman_ | |
| 15:29 | <vagrantc> gbaman_: that doesn't sound like it is working ... the user should be on the server.
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| 15:50 | <epoptes_user0> Hi
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| 15:51 | i try to use epoptes
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| 15:51 | i have this error : epoptes-client ERROR: Failed to fetch certificate from server:789
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| 15:51 | for epoptes-client -c
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| 15:52 | and for epoptes : Connection with epoptes failed: An error occurred while connecting: 13: Permission non accordée.
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| 16:04 | * gbaman waves at vagrantc | |
| 16:06 | <vagrantc> gbaman: sounds like you're using the local user rather than the user on the server ...
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| 16:06 | <gbaman> yip, i was
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| 16:06 | it couldnt connect to the server
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| 16:07 | did your attempt work?
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> yes, worked like a charm, of course :)
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| 16:07 | <gbaman> sigh
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| 16:07 | * vagrantc thought the cmdline.txt updates worked | |
| 16:07 | <gbaman> i wasnt sure how to add the ssh keys
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> gbaman: i'm guessing one of the fuzzy not well documented steps went wrong
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| 16:08 | <gbaman> did you get my message about the bug?
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| 16:08 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 16:08 | <gbaman> the cmdline.txt one
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| 16:08 | good
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| 16:08 | <vagrantc> gbaman: though next time, tell me the nature of the bug first :)
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| 16:08 | <gbaman> i know, was about to then had to go
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| 16:10 | i do know the pi cant access the server
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| 16:10 | it complains
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| 16:10 | on bootup
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| 16:10 | but i am able to ssh from it to the server fine
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| 16:10 | <vagrantc> does it prompt you for key verification?
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| 16:10 | <gbaman> nope
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| 16:10 | oh yes
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| 16:10 | you mean when i ssh to it?
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| 16:11 | *to the server
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| 16:11 | yes, it does
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| 16:12 | <vagrantc> that's the problem ...
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| 16:12 | you need an /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts that contains the line:
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| 16:12 | server YOUR_SERVERS_SSH_KEY.pub
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| 16:13 | i.e. server <content from /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*.pub>
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| 16:13 | one line per key
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| 16:13 | <gbaman> The pi does not have an ssh_known_hosts file
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> you need to create it
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| 16:13 | <gbaman> k
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| 16:13 | <vagrantc> or, on the server, ltsp-update-sshkeys -export or something like that
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| 16:14 | ltsp-update-sshkeys --export -
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| 16:14 | that might work
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| 16:14 | cut and paste that into your pi.
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| 16:15 | hm.
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| 16:15 | that seems broken here.
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| 16:16 | <gbaman> which key.pub....
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| 16:16 | the rsa one?
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| 16:17 | <vagrantc> gbaman: does your server have ltsp chroots on it?
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| 16:17 | <gbaman> you mean the ltsp-build-client outputs, yes
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| 16:18 | <vagrantc> gbaman: copy one of the /opt/ltsp/*/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts to your pi image.
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| 16:18 | <gbaman> k
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| 16:21 | <gbaman> also, i couldnt find anything for this bit add || true to plymouth line.
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| 16:23 | <vagrantc> gbaman: you need to append "|| true" to the line calling plymouth in /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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| 16:24 | <gbaman> replace /bin/plymouth quit --retain-splash with /bin/plymouth || true
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| 16:24 | ?
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| 16:35 | <gbaman> rebooted the pi with the ssh key fix and still getting "tftp: sendto: Network is unreachable
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| 16:35 | and "Error: socket failed: Network is unreachable"
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> gbaman: no, just add to the line that's already there.
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| 16:37 | gbaman: but yes, that's the line.
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> anyways, gotta run.
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| 16:37 | <gbaman> ...
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| 16:47 | <gp> I am using ltsp on ubuntu andI am having issues with sound and freerdp. I have SCREEN_02="ldm" and then screen 07 set to xfreerdp. The LDM screen has sound, but the xfreerdp screen does not.
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| 16:48 | Has anyone dealt with this before?
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| 16:48 | Using --plugin drdynvc like freerdp suggests causes the client to crash and never come up
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| 16:49 | Didn't know if there is some tip someone could give me to help me get going. Can't get sound on a couple of machines that remote into a windows machine
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| 17:00 | <||cw> gp: it's likely that without pulse or alsa or some other sound system that only ldm OR xfreerdp will be able to play sound
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| 17:00 | try not having ldm start? you can always start it manually
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| 17:01 | <gp> i.e. don't add ldm to screen02?
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| 17:02 | trying that now
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| 17:06 | no luck
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| 18:31 | <gp> Figured it out
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| 18:31 | libfreerdp-plugins-standard wasn't installed in the chroot when I installed freerdp-x11
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| 18:32 | so the sound plugin didn't get installed until I ran apt-get install libfreerdp-plugins-standard
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| 18:33 | <vagrantc> do you have recommends disabled?
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| 18:34 | or was recommends disabled when you installed freerdp-x11?
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| 18:41 | <alkisg1> ubuntu has recommends disabled in ltsp chroots by default..
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| 18:41 | I think stgraber was planning to fix that in later versions
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| 18:42 | <gbaman> it still isnt working vagrantc :)
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| 18:42 | <alkisg1> ...but I'm no longer using ubuntu ltsp packages, in favor of debian ones, so I don't know the details there :)
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| 18:44 | <gbaman> vagrantc: the guide has # FIXME: mount the firmware partition, is there a step missing in there?
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| 18:45 | <gp> Here are the commands I ran: http://dpaste.com/1044624/
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| 18:46 | After that the --plugin rdpsnd option to xfreerdp started working
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| 18:48 | <gp> Are debian LTSP packages more current than the Ubuntu ones?
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| 18:49 | <vagrantc> yes and no
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| 18:50 | depends on which versions you're comparing, though debian wheezy hasn't yet been released.
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| 18:50 | and ubuntu 12.10 and newer have newer packages
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| 19:09 | <gbaman2> The errors the pi gives when booting are
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| 19:10 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1122948/temp/Photo%2002-04-2013%2017%2033%2006.jpg
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| 19:10 | <vagrantc> gbaman: yes, anything marked FIXME is something more or less missing
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| 19:10 | <gbaman2> and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1122948/temp/Photo%2002-04-2013%2017%2032%2033.jpg
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| 19:10 | <gp> vagrantc: thanks i will probably check out 12.10 later. just have a habit of using lts versions
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| 19:11 | <gbaman2> it does look like it cant reach the ltsp server
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| 19:11 | <vagrantc> gp: i use Debian :)
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| 19:11 | <gp> vagrantc: ah. I guess I will be giving debian a shot for ltsp then =)
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| 19:12 | <gbaman2> but as i said a while back, i can ping and ssh to the server...
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| 19:12 | weird
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| 19:12 | <gp> anyways... yall have a good afternoon. thanks for the info
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| 19:16 | <gbaman2> might it be it just does not work on edubuntu?
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| 19:18 | <alkisg1> gbaman2: can you login at that prompt, and then run ltsp-client-core manually, to see where it fails? Might be on plymouth...
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| 19:21 | <gbaman2> and how would one run it manually?
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| 19:22 | :)
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| 19:26 | <alkisg1> sh -x /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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| 19:26 | * gbaman2 remind alkisg1 that gbaman is very new to this | |
| 19:28 | <gbaman2> Well, it ran
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| 19:28 | and didnt complain much
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| 19:28 | but i noticed this
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| 19:28 | SERVER=192.168.67.1
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| 19:29 | Then below it SERVER=10.0.5.175
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| 19:29 | the bottom one is right
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| 19:29 | the top one isnt?
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| 19:30 | <alkisg1> What was the last line you saw?
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| 19:30 | <gbaman2> http://pastebin.com/e5G9We5X
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| 19:30 | might save you a bit of time :)
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| 19:30 | <alkisg1> pi? you need to be root to run a service
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| 19:31 | <gbaman2> oops
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| 19:31 | <alkisg1> Also, put a "start" parameter
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| 19:31 | sh -x /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core start
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| 19:32 | <gbaman2> ran with sudo and start
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| 19:32 | http://pastebin.com/WUeqRrz7
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| 19:32 | Still 2 server addresses?
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| 19:32 | with the top being wrong
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| 19:33 | the server address is 10.0.5.175
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| 19:33 | <alkisg1> Yeah it's that plymouth line that vagrantc fixed a few days ago
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| 19:33 | You need to put a || true after that line, inside that script
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| 19:33 | /bin/plymouth quit --retain-splash || true
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| 19:33 | <gbaman2> erm, i did....
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| 19:34 | nearly sure i had
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| 19:34 | <alkisg1> If you're using NBD, maybe you didn't update the image...
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| 19:35 | <gbaman2> i didnt think it was ever getting that far
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| 19:37 | <gbaman2> on the ltsp server /opt/ltsp/armhf/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core has that line
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| 19:40 | <alkisg1> On the client?
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| 19:41 | <gbaman2> no, the server
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| 19:42 | ha ha!
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| 19:42 | it is doing something
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| 19:42 | it failed again on reboot
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| 19:43 | but fancy that, the file has been changed back to it without the true in it
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| 19:43 | hmm
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| 19:44 | <alkisg1> gbaman2: on the client, cat /proc/cmdline
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| 19:44 | See if you have anything about nbd there
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| 19:44 | If you're using nbd, then you need to run ltsp-update-image
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| 19:45 | But do not run ltsp-update-image if you're using nfs, it'll mess up your setup
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| 19:45 | <gbaman2> dma.dmachans=0x7f35 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1792 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=984 bcm2708.boardrev=0xf bcm2708.serial=0xedb4dfb smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:DB:4D:FB sdhci-bcm2708.emmc_clock_freq=100000000 vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait init=/sbin/init-ltsp
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| 19:45 | Would it be a bad thing if i cant remember if i am using nbd or nfs?
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| 19:46 | I thought i was using nbd
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| 19:46 | <alkisg1> Err it appears you're using a local file system
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| 19:46 | <gbaman2> sigh
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| 19:46 | <alkisg1> What's the output of `sudo blkid`?
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| 19:46 | <gbaman2> then why did that file reset on reboot?
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| 19:46 | <alkisg1> Or, `cat /proc/mounts` ?
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| 19:46 | Because you're using a cow system (aufs) over the local file system
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| 19:46 | (copy on write)
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| 19:46 | (i.e. temporary)
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| 19:48 | <gbaman2> http://pastebin.com/CQREQ2YZ
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| 19:48 | <alkisg1> No nbd or nfs there
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| 19:49 | <gbaman2> so it isnt actually working
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| 19:49 | sigh
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| 19:49 | <alkisg1> So unless you really want local boot, you need to modify "root=xxx" in your command line
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| 19:49 | <gbaman2> vagrantc?
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| 19:50 | vagrantc: Was your guide for an os on the sd card then automount home directory or was it for fat client?
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| 19:51 | hit discription of this bit is
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| 19:51 | #### Running rpi as an LTSP client off the raspbian image:
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| 19:51 | <alkisg1> Where is that guide?
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| 19:51 | <gbaman2> http://cascadia.debian.net/~vagrant/rpi-ltsp-howto.txt
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| 19:51 | still a bt rough
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| 19:51 | pi bit is at the bottom
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| 19:52 | <alkisg1> # edit commandline.txt: add init=/sbin/init-ltsp boot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.67.1:/opt/ltsp/armhf delete the root= and rootfstype= entries.
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| 19:52 | Did you do those? ^
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| 19:52 | <gbaman2> had not got onto that
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| 19:52 | still on
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| 19:53 | <alkisg1> Those parts are done before even installing ltsp-client..
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| 19:53 | <gbaman2> # FIXME: mount the firmware partition
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| 19:54 | was waiting for him to fix that bit
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| 19:54 | but thought seeing as it was complaining it couldnt connect to the server, that might be a different problem
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| 19:55 | <vagrantc> it's two guides in one ... the first part is for making a thin client, the second for configuring the SD image to emulate a thin client
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| 19:56 | <gbaman2> thats what i thought
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| 19:56 | but the second didnt work :)
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| 19:56 | <vagrantc> worked for me
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| 19:57 | <alkisg1> You didn't modify the ltsp-client-core file
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| 19:57 | You modified it in the aufs temporary instance
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| 19:57 | <gbaman2> read up a bit, every time i edit the /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core and reboot it looses it
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| 19:57 | <alkisg1> Not in the real file system
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| 19:57 | <gbaman2> so where is the real file system?
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| 19:57 | * vagrantc agrees with alkisg1 | |
| 19:57 | <vagrantc> it's in /rofs
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| 19:57 | mount -o remount,rw /rofs
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| 19:57 | edit /rofs/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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| 19:58 | mount -o remount,ro /rofs
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| 19:58 | reboot
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| 20:03 | <highvoltage> greetings good people of ltsp land
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| 20:08 | <gbaman> right good news and bad news
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| 20:08 | I have a really nice looking login screen
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| 20:08 | but logins dont work
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| 20:09 | i just get no response from server
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| 20:09 | but making progress
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| 20:12 | <alkisg1> Switch to SCREEN_02=shell (or anyway login as root locally),
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| 20:12 | and try: ssh pi@server
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| 20:12 | Don't replace the word "server" there, leave it as is
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| 20:12 | Accept the server keys when prompted
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| 20:13 | Press alt+ctrl+f7 to switch again to LDM (the login screen), and retry to login
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| 20:15 | <vagrantc> gbaman: probably don't have the right content in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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| 20:19 | <gbaman> how do you switch to SCREEN_02=shell?
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| 20:21 | <vagrantc> edit lts.conf
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| 20:21 | <gbaman> oh, ok
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| 20:21 | <vagrantc> but you'll need to do the /rofs trick again
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| 20:21 | <gbaman> so ssh into the pi
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| 20:21 | <vagrantc> well, you could log in on the console as pi and use sudo
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| 20:22 | ctrl-alt-f1
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| 20:22 | will get you to the console
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| 20:22 | <gbaman> oh
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| 20:22 | good to know
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| 20:29 | ..
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| 20:29 | it worked...
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| 20:29 | it finally worked...
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| 20:29 | it complained a bit
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| 20:29 | bit after clicking ok, it loaded lxde
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| 20:30 | and mounted my files
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| 20:31 | <gbaman> what is the correct way to add users for ltsp?
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| 20:32 | my second user does not work, but it never worked anyway
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| 20:32 | <vagrantc> add them on the server
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| 20:32 | <gbaman> yes, but is there a special way to do it? a nice program?
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| 20:33 | <gbaman> i also get this every time i log on
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| 20:33 | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1122948/temp/Photo%2002-04-2013%2021%2029%2003.jpg
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| 20:37 | <vagrantc> gbaman: i think "adduser username" is nice.
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| 20:37 | gbaman: but there's some GUI utility in ubuntu
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| 20:41 | <gbaman> well adduser worked fine
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| 20:41 | weird
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| 20:41 | i must just have a weird other user
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| 20:42 | now, to change the background
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| 20:43 | for ldm
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| 20:44 | so to make any changes to the base image, i have to ddo the /rofs trick
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| 20:45 | <vagrantc> or power down your pi and put the SD card in another machine
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| 20:45 | <gbaman> true
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| 20:45 | also, any idea how to set a template for new users?
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| 20:45 | <vagrantc> really need to figure out berryboot to allow to boot with different boot options
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| 20:46 | <gbaman> e.g. have files already in their home directory
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| 20:46 | in every new users home directory
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| 20:47 | and berryboot would be very handy
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| 20:47 | ability to boot into the local image with this or using your second method, the normal fat client
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