IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 November 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:13 | <nithishsavar> hi
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| 07:13 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 07:14 | <nithishsavar> i have problem in ltsp user access
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| 07:14 | i cant access sublime-text in user pc
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| 07:14 | <alkisg> What is the error message?
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| 07:15 | <nithishsavar> ltsp server has already installed sublime
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| 07:15 | <alkisg> As a debian package?
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| 07:15 | <nithishsavar> but, ltsp client not have the sublime
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| 07:15 | sublime-text
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| 07:15 | <alkisg> How did you install it on the server
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| 07:16 | <nithishsavar> apt -get install sublime-text
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| 07:16 | <alkisg> What's the output of this command? apt policy sublime-text | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 07:17 | <nithishsavar> host machine already installed the app
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| 07:17 | i can able to open a sublime in host machine
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| 07:18 | but client pc it shows like not installed
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| 07:18 | <alkisg> Please provide the info I asked for
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| 07:20 | <nithishsavar> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.https://termbin.com/qnjb
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| 07:20 | <alkisg> And what is the output of the same command, on the client?
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| 07:23 | <nithishsavar> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in script
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| 07:24 | <alkisg> And the termbin URL?
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| 07:24 | <nithishsavar> not showing
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| 07:24 | <alkisg> Run just this: apt policy sublime-text
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| 07:24 | and paste the output here
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| 07:25 | <nithishsavar> N: Unable to locate package sublime-text
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| 07:26 | <alkisg> Did you run ltsp-update-image to send the package to the clients?
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| 07:26 | Did you reboot the clients?
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| 07:40 | <Vladimir> hello, is it possible to load freerdp instead of display manager in the new LTSP? Like screen.d scripts in LTSP5
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| 07:40 | <alkisg> Vladimir: sure, see ltsp community issues on github, let me get you a link...
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| 07:41 | https://github.com/ltsp/community/wiki ==> 4 links to the right there
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| 07:41 | E.g. https://github.com/ltsp/community/wiki/xfreerdp
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| 07:41 | <Vladimir> ty
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| 07:41 | <alkisg> np
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| 07:42 | The chat for that wiki page is in https://github.com/ltsp/community/issues/48#issuecomment-553661573
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 10:49 | <ltspbot> tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> Moving ltsp.github.io to ltsp.org; don't worry if you can't access them for a while
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| 13:54 | <georgene_> I JUST came here to ask where it went :D
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> It was just gone for 5 minutes! :D
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| 13:56 | Ouch the web page needs to be re-published with the new url. Oh well, no noon nap :D
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| 13:56 | <georgene_> I know! what a coincidence haha
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| 13:56 | grep grep grep
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> Fun :D
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| 13:57 | <georgene_> hugo is quite nice if you have not looked into it yet
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| 13:57 | I built this documentation site using hugo>> https://docs.dialing.se/
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| 13:58 | you can navigate with keyboard as well
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| 13:59 | <alkisg> I haven't; but I need something that renders .md man pages nicely
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| 13:59 | As all the ltsp.org/man folder is just cloned from upstream man pages
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| 14:02 | <georgene_> hugo is perfect then as it works just with md formats
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| 14:03 | and if you want to throw a "backend" to your hugo site, you can use forestry.io, the free plan is all you need really
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| 14:03 | but im still undecided about the world of SSGs as there are new ones popping up all the time, hugo seems to have a good following and I've built a few sites with it already
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| 14:04 | it can generate 5000 pages in like 7 seconds...
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> The idea is that I do *not* do web development :)
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| 14:04 | If someone wants to, they can do it for ltsp
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| 14:05 | So, I didn't have to install jekyll in my pc or anything
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| 14:05 | I just write .md, push, and github does the rest
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| 14:05 | If hugo can do the same, without me signing up to other servers or installing apps in my pc, great
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| 14:05 | <georgene_> what are you currently using on ltsp.org?
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> jekyll
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| 14:06 | <georgene_> how are you rendering that?
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| 14:06 | ah okay
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> It should be working now: https://ltsp.org/
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| 14:06 | <georgene_> I mean, it's good enough, I think its nice and clean
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| 14:06 | yes its working
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| 14:06 | ++
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> Jekyll theme: just the Docs (link at the bottom)
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| 14:06 | <Batmoine> Hi all :)
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> Hi Batmoine
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| 14:07 | <georgene_> helloo
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> georgene_: Not sure what to do with the previous URLs though... is www.ltsp.org a cname to ltsp.org now?
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| 14:07 | <georgene_> yes
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> OK because the github instructions were mentioning "cname to ltsp.github.io"
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| 14:07 | <Batmoine> I'm having a little trouble in a classroom, all PCs start well on Linux, but none of them have access to the Internet
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| 14:07 | <alkisg> ...which doesn't really exist... yet that technique worked for epoptes.org. Meh
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| 14:08 | Batmoine: are you using ltsp? Which distro/version?
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| 14:08 | <georgene_> no, its working fine, no errors
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| 14:08 | <alkisg> georgene_: www.ltsp.org isn't working for me
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| 14:08 | Neither with http nor https
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| 14:08 | <Batmoine> Ubuntu server 18, and the latest version of ltsp
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| 14:08 | <georgene_> for me, it goes straight to https://ltsp.org/
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| 14:09 | <Batmoine> Ubuntu desktop, sorry
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| 14:09 | <alkisg> Batmoine: I'm going to guess you're using the old ltsp5, and not the new ltsp19, right?
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| 14:10 | <Batmoine> no, it's good ltsp 19
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| 14:10 | not the 5
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| 14:10 | <georgene_> single or double NIC?
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| 14:10 | <alkisg> 2 nic setup?
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| 14:10 | <Batmoine> Single
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| 14:10 | and Chrootless
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| 14:10 | Based on : https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/wiki
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| 14:10 | <alkisg> Can I see with vnc?
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| 14:10 | !vnc-dide
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| 14:10 | <ltspbot> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 14:10 | <Batmoine> yes of course :)
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> Batmoine: you had both ltsp19 and ltsp5 installed,
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| 14:18 | but you didn't delete the old dnsmasq file,so clients booted with ltsp5
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| 14:18 | A mixed thing
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| 14:18 | <Batmoine> huh ?
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| 14:18 | <Batmoine> "Boot Failure"
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| 14:20 | ok, it boot
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| 14:21 | <alkisg> Hmm vnc hanged
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| 14:21 | But if it's working, all ok
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| 14:21 | Otherwise, re-run that vnc command to connect to me
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| 14:22 | <Batmoine> ok
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| 14:25 | error, nothing more boot, more pxe :-/
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| 14:26 | ah, that's coming back
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| 14:26 | ok, it finds the PXE, but then: boot failure
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> I'll need you to either upload a photo, or me to install virtualbox
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| 14:27 | Ah the server is a VM
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| 14:27 | Can't run vbox there
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| 14:27 | So ok upload a photo with your phone
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| 14:27 | <georgene_> have you run 'ltsp dnsmasq'
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| 14:27 | <Batmoine> yes
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| 14:28 | <georgene_> can you verify that you're exporting the correct paths?
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| 14:28 | <Batmoine> or do you want me to send the photo?
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> Yes upload a photo while I update things
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| 14:29 | <Batmoine> I send you the photo where?
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> imgur.com or similar site
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| 14:29 | Reboot a client NOW though
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| 14:29 | after the updates that I did
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| 14:30 | <Batmoine> Same error
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| 14:31 | https://www.noelshack.com/2019-47-4-1574346654-img-20191121-152737.jpg
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> Batmoine: ok, now reboot again
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| 14:32 | <Batmoine> same :)
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| 14:34 | <alkisg> Batmoine: can you reboot and upload another photo now?
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| 14:34 | As now it won't be using undionly.kpxe, but ipxe.pxe
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| 14:35 | <Batmoine> no pb
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> Also, do you have another type of client, to try with that?
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| 14:35 | I think it's a problem with ipxe not supporting this client well
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| 14:35 | <Batmoine> it started up before
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| 14:36 | <alkisg> For example, I've seen clients that need this: unplug power, press power button for the capacitors to discharge, then plug power, then press power button again
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| 14:37 | <Batmoine> ok
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| 14:37 | https://www.noelshack.com/2019-47-4-1574347039-img-20191121-153457.jpg
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| 14:37 | Same
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| 14:39 | I think I'm going to force the mayor to invest in hard drives ... :)
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Hehe
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| 14:39 | Do you have another type of client to test with?
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| 14:40 | <Batmoine> unfortunately no, there are 17 machines, they are all identical
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> Can you do the power test that I said? Unlpug power, push power button etc?
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| 14:40 | <Batmoine> yes, but same error
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| 14:41 | I have to leave, thank you very much for your help anyway
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> ok
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| 14:41 | bye
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| 14:41 | <Batmoine> cya :à
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| 14:41 | :)
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| 14:46 | <alexxtasi[m]> Hi alkisg , a somehow irrelevant question
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| 14:46 | I ve seen here you talking about usign pelican static generator for hosting the new documentation, and now it's Jekyll...
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| 14:46 | any reason for this decision ?
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| 14:47 | (just curious)
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| 14:48 | <alkisg> alexxtasi[m]: what is pelican?
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| 14:48 | I've never heard of it, maybe you remember something else?
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| 14:49 | <alexxtasi[m]> a forgive me ... it was MkDocs
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| 14:49 | <alkisg> Ah, I see it's a static generator in python... github doesn't support python
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| 14:49 | mkdocs yeah, but I'd need to run it locally and publish the result
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| 14:49 | While now I'm able to go online, edit .md files, and have the site updated, without access to my own pc to compile things
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| 14:50 | (so if others want to help with the site, it'll be much easier for them)
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| 14:52 | <alexxtasi[m]> thanks
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> git-based wikies... a blessing: sed 's/ltsp.github.io/ltsp.org/g' -i $(grep -rl ltsp.github.io)
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| 15:57 | And all pages updated :)
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| 16:45 | <alkisg> !ltsp-image
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| 16:45 | <ltspbot> ltsp-image: Generate a squashfs image from an image source: https://ltsp.org/docs/ltsp-image
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| 16:45 | <alkisg> !ltsp-image
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| 16:45 | <ltspbot> ltsp-image: Generate a squashfs image from an image source: https://ltsp.org/man/ltsp-image
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| 18:45 | <vagrantc> yay, we're back on ltsp.org! :)
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| 18:50 | <alkisg> ;)
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| 18:51 | It cost my noon nap, but... yey! :D
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| 18:54 | <vagrantc> hah
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| 19:43 | <Leolo_2> ok, I have a strange problem
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| 19:44 | I'm running LTSP 5.4 on CentOS 6. I have a user with a fat client and a different user with a thin client
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| 19:45 | they are both opening an xterm with -fa Consolas-26. the fonts are different sizes
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> Do they have the same dpi?
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| 19:51 | Also, if they use remoteapps/localapps, do they get the ...other size of fonts?
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| 20:28 | <Leolo_2> all have same DPI
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| 20:28 | I'll have to try out remote vs local apps
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| 20:29 | question - given that xfs is no longer a thing, font rendering happens in X.org?
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| 20:30 | because the only thing I can think of is that "Consolas-26" being a truetype font, the rendering is being done differently in fat vs thin
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| 20:30 | but even then, that makes no sense
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