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| 09:23 | <Joanet> Hi all. How can I remove the screensaver timeout from LTSP thin clients?
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| 10:55 | <epoptes_user9> Hi. I've installed ubuntu + LTSP and after launching 12 thin clients using 100 mbps network, when I do a broadcast some thin clients starts to fail, they get disconnected and I have to reboot the thin clients. Maybe the network performance is too slow??
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| 10:56 | I do a broadcast using epoptes,s orry
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| 13:08 | <lifeboy> Hi everyone
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| 13:09 | I still have this strange ssh problem. Although my keys are copied with ltsp-update-sshkeys, sshd and/or ssh seem to think they don't match. I have explained it all in a email to a local forum and put a copy here: http://pastebin.com/qv5WfsG4
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| 13:10 | In there I explain the problem more fully. What would you suggest I do to proceed with this? File a bug report with Ubuntu? or LTSP? Some pointers would be great.
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> No bug report needed, you're using a 12.04 server with a 10.04 chroot, there's bound to be incompatibilities...
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| 13:13 | I guess the problem is that 12.04 uses the server name for the keys, while 10.04 the IP
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| 13:13 | So one way is to manually edit the keys and add the server IP there
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| 13:13 | Another way would be to specify this in lts.conf: LDM_SERVER=server
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| 13:14 | <lifeboy> Would that prevent me from logging into the client from the server using ssh manually?
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> No, that's another issue
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| 13:15 | <lifeboy> I assumed incorrectly the two are related?
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> Yup, incorrectly
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| 13:16 | <lifeboy> The "debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent" also seems to be a key problem, ... but let's leave that for now then.
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> For the `ssh in the chroot` issue, e.g. ltsp excludes the ssh keys from the chroot because of security issues
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| 13:16 | If all clients have the same ssh keys, then the communication is no longer secure
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| 13:17 | So you'd have to regenerate them on client boot
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| 13:18 | <lifeboy> You mean I have to generate a ssh key when the client boots?
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| 13:18 | Sorry, that's what you said
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> Yup, or edit /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-kernels.conf if you don't care about security
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| 13:18 | $ grep ssh /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes
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| 13:18 | etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key
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| 13:19 | <lifeboy> This is a small closed network, so security is not an issue
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| 13:19 | <alkisg> You trust your users that much? Anyone can install a keylogger then... :D
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| 13:19 | <alkisg> Btw feel free to write anything you find useful in the ltsp.org wiki...
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| 13:21 | <lifeboy> They are 5 people in a remote office that know what the other one thinks... :-) But lets first get the LDM login problem sorted.
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| 13:21 | Ok, I will do that. I've made lots of notes ...
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| 13:21 | <alkisg> Start with LDM_SERVER=server in lts.conf
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| 13:43 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 13:48 | <stgraber> morning sbalneav
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| 13:48 | <sbalneav> stgraber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:48 | <stgraber> !s
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| 13:48 | <ltsp> s: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 13:49 | <sbalneav> So, I haven't forgotton the ltsp-pam stuff everyone, but MATE released with some bugs, so the last month or two, we've been bug squashing on MATE.
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| 13:49 | I figure by mid-june, I'm going to get the localdevs stuff going.
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| 13:49 | Then, hopefully, come october, we can do the first full cut of LTSP6 at the hackfest.
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| 13:52 | <stgraber> sounds like a plan. I've been (well, still am) pretty busy with a whole bunch of non-LTSP thing so quite looking forward to the hackfest to actually work on some of that stuff again ;)
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| 13:57 | <sbalneav> Cool!
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| 14:13 | <ogra_> stgraber, we can make ubuntu-touch work with ltsp6 :)
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| 14:14 | thats what the world needs, netbooted ltsp phones :)
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| 14:14 | <stgraber> ;)
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| 14:14 | <ogra_> (that turn into a dishwasher with the right dock attached, yay convergence)
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| 14:18 | <stgraber> I'm sure some carrier would be very happy to have some phones without any local storage that just PXE boot over 3G ;)
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| 14:19 | <ogra_> yeah
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| 14:19 | thats the future
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| 14:20 | fully cloud based phones
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| 14:20 | :)
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| 14:22 | <gbaman> phone gets slow and user reboots phone, "error no signal, can't boot phone, please try again later" and all the user wanted to do was play angry birds...
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| 14:22 | I don't see PXE booting phones any time soon
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| 14:35 | <ogra_> gbaman, we were joking :)
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| 14:45 | <markit> hi, I need to add a route to the fat clients, where is the right place to set it?
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| 14:46 | I mean, fat clients need to have an additional route to a network I need to reach
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| 14:59 | <Hyperbyte> markit, RCFILE_01=ip route add ... ?
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| 15:00 | <markit> mmm never tried
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| 15:00 | hope it works :)
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| 15:00 | (I'm at work now, can't test)
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| 16:48 | <vagrantc> ok, cubieboard running ltsp... at least as a proof of concept
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| 16:48 | <ogra_> performant ?
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| 16:49 | * vagrantc is never a good judge of that | |
| 16:49 | <ogra_> well, can you scroll websites in a browser fast ... or is it stuttering
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| 16:51 | <vagrantc> heh, have to install a browser, looks like :)
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| 16:52 | <ogra_> heh
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| 16:53 | xfbdev can be very sluggish with certain things (and i assume you dont use any binary driver for X)
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> stutters a bit
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| 16:54 | yeah, i didn't install any of the firmware
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| 16:55 | <ogra_> well, firmware is one thing, finding a working xserver for it is the other
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| 16:55 | <vagrantc> it's just using fbdev
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| 16:56 | <ogra_> yeah
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| 16:56 | <vagrantc> 24-bit color, ... 1920x1080@24-bit
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| 16:56 | * ogra_ guessed so | |
| 16:57 | * vagrantc tries it as a fat client | |
| 16:57 | <vagrantc> that's a thin client with ssh and all that
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| 16:57 | what i've tested so far
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| 16:57 | straight debian wheezy ltsp + the kernel that comes with berryboot
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> unsurprisingly faster than the raspberry pi
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| 17:00 | <ogra_> heh, yeah
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| 17:00 | thats not hard to achieve
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> it was a little psychedelic at 16-bit color
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| 17:01 | <ogra_> so you need to ship the right drugs with it :)
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| 17:01 | for compensation
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> the kernel that came with berryboot thankfully had all the features i needed
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| 17:03 | but a 3.4 kernel... who uses that?
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| 17:04 | <ogra_> we use 3.0 kernels in ubuntu touch on some devices :)
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| 17:05 | <vagrantc> android uses 3.0, i think, so at least there's somewhat of a shared kernel base
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| 17:05 | several distros ship with 3.2
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| 17:05 | <ogra_> yeah
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc> but 3.4 for the cubieboard, 3.6 for the rpi... it's like playing darts
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| 17:06 | <ogra_> haha, yeah, welcome to my world :)
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| 17:07 | * ogra_ is happy if his kernels dont start with a 2.x usually | |
| 17:08 | <vagrantc> only a slight bit of stutter as a fatclient
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| 17:09 | <ogra_> nice
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> in theory, it should even be able to tftp boot from u-boot... right now just booting off the microSD
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| 17:10 | found some instructions for tftp booting
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| 17:12 | <ogra_> if it uses a recent u-boot built from upstream it should even fully support PXE
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| 17:13 | <vagrantc> oh, nice!
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| 19:41 | <lifeboy> alkisg: LDM_SERVER=server in lts.conf did the trick. I do get asked to confirm the key each time after restarting the client. How would I fix that?
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