IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 13 March 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 00:01 | <sbalneav> Vunderbar!
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| 00:02 | Are there new .debs? I'm rebuilding my chroot from scratch now.
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| 00:02 | * vagrantc needs to sneak in another rebuild. | |
| 00:03 | * sbalneav whispers: OK, I won't tell anyone! | |
| 00:06 | * vagrantc scrubs the logs | |
| 00:07 | <sbalneav> Once I get the public-key stuff back in, I'll bump to 0.4
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| 00:27 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: updated!
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| 00:27 | * vagrantc shushes | |
| 00:29 | <sbalneav> Already copied it down! :)
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| 00:30 | Crap. it's putting the pam module in /usr/lib/security
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| 00:30 | needs to be in /lib/possiblemultiarch/security
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| 00:31 | ah well, I'll copy it for the moment.
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> it shouldn't need to be multiarchified
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| 00:36 | it should look for libs in both places, no?
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| 00:36 | anyways, can fix that later.
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| 01:10 | <sbalneav> http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:LTSPPamNotes#Current_Progress
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| 01:11 | <warren> is enslaver part of the hackfest?
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| 01:13 | <sbalneav> Updated. I have a booting thin client.
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| 01:13 | Anyone who wants to hack is part of the hackfest.
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| 01:13 | :)
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| 01:15 | OK, I'll be heading home soon. 12 hours is enough :)
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| 01:15 | back on tomorrow. :)
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| 04:52 | <vnc786> does this network will affect fat clients ? fat clients connected to Ethernet Wall I/O port -----> Patch Panel ----> from patch panel cable connected to switch because..
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| 04:53 | booting(img transfer) takes 5-10 minutes
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| 05:41 | <bakytn> Hello! How can I set default session? It's Lubuntu and I set in lts.conf LDM_SESSION="/usr/bin/startlubuntu" (file exists) but it's still loading GNOME
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| 06:00 | <bakytn> oh I have used LDM_XSESSION instead and it worked
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| 06:14 | <kumar> diaplay proble with thin clients .I am having old system and I would like to use those as clients ...as the ubuntu which I am using is 10.04 is having hogh end graphics
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| 06:14 | so as these are having network boot I am using those ..But I am facing display problem so,,,can i reduce those for old system do i have any option for that
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| 06:19 | <bakytn> kumar, are you using fat clients or a thin clients?
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| 06:19 | <kumar> thin clients
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| 06:25 | <bakytn> kumar, what kind of problems are you facing?
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| 06:54 | <kumar> after login I get blank screen
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| 06:55 | <kumar> mr.baktyn:user logs in but unable to see his desktop ..
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| 06:55 | <bakytn> kumar, are you using server version of ubuntu or deskopt?
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| 06:56 | kumar, try to install ubuntu-desktop on your chroot
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| 06:56 | <kumar> 10.04
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| 06:56 | I really do not know how to use chroot...
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| 06:57 | <bakytn> kumar, try to just open your server directly withou thin client
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| 06:57 | kumar, are you seeing your desktop on server?
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| 06:58 | <kumar> ya through command line i can see
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| 06:58 | i can login
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| 06:59 | <bakytn> not a comman line
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| 06:59 | try to use that server like desktop
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| 07:00 | can you see the desktop?
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| 07:00 | the GUI desktop?
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| 07:00 | <kumar> from server you mean to say
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| 07:09 | <work_alkisg> bakytn: don't use LDM_XSESSION, use LDM_SESSION instead. Check /usr/share/xsessions for a list of available sessions.
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| 07:22 | <kumar> i logged in terminal not in server .so, can i troublehoot from here
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| 07:24 | <alkisg> kumar: the question bakytn asks is, did you use the "server" Ubuntu CD to install your server, or the "desktop" CD
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| 07:24 | <kumar> desktop
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| 07:25 | <bakytn> alkisg, but it worked.. if I used LDM_SESSION and looked at /usr/share/xsessions and found Exec parameter and specified it with no luck
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| 07:25 | <kumar> but my server is having some graphics i could not get desktop I am working from command line
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| 07:25 | <alkisg> bakytn: xsession skips some login scripts, don't use it
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| 07:25 | bakytn: no need to find the exec parameter, use the filename of the session.desktop file
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| 07:25 | <bakytn> alkisg, then how to debug LDM_SESSION not working?
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| 07:25 | <alkisg> bakytn: which distro/version?
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| 07:26 | <bakytn> alkisg, Ubuntu 12.10 64bit, chroot 32bit
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| 07:26 | alkisg, fat clients
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| 07:26 | alkisg, so I just specify the full path for the .desktop file?
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| 07:26 | <alkisg> bakytn: so you have what, /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/xsessions/lubuntu.desktop ?
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| 07:26 | <bakytn> alkisg, (as they seem like an executables)
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| 07:26 | <alkisg> bakytn: if so, just specify lubuntu
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| 07:26 | LDM_XSESSION=lubuntu
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| 07:26 | *session, not xsession, sorry
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| 07:27 | <bakytn> alkisg, yes I do have Lubuntu. desktop
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| 07:27 | alkisg, ok thank you let me check!
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| 07:27 | <alkisg> kumar: do you know how to create an lts.conf file/
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| 07:27 | ?
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| 07:28 | <kumar> you will lts.conf at location /opt/ltsp/i386 or amd64/etc/
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| 07:28 | at this location you will find the lts.conf
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| 07:29 | <alkisg> kumar: no. sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 07:29 | <bakytn> kumar, no you have to create lts.conf in /var/lib/tftboot/i386/
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| 07:29 | <alkisg> And there, put:
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| 07:29 | [Default]
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| 07:29 | LDM_XSESSION=/usr/bin/xterm
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| 07:29 | And then reboot a client and try to login
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| 07:29 | See if you get an xterm that way
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| 07:29 | <bakytn> kumar, what if you try to ltsp-chroot on your srever and then: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
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| 07:29 | <kumar> okay I need to give as this
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| 07:29 | <bakytn> kumar, but first do what alkisg said
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| 07:30 | <kumar> do i need to update image also after this
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| 07:30 | <alkisg> bakytn: that will make his chroot a fat one, I think he's trying for thin clients
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| 07:30 | kumar: no
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| 07:30 | <kumar> okay i will try once
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| 07:30 | <bakytn> alkisg, ah..true.
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| 07:30 | kumar, don't do waht I said earlier
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| 07:31 | I am using and love fat clients so I recommended wrong thing sorry
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| 07:33 | he can try to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop right on the server (not in chroot)
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| 07:36 | alkisg, LDM_SESSION=lubuntu and "Lubuntu" didn't work ;(
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| 07:36 | alkisg, loading Unity for some reasons (the default one I guess)
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| 07:50 | <alkisg> bakytn: do you have lubuntu installed on your server?
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| 07:50 | (not the chroot, the server)
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| 07:55 | bakytn: I think there might be some bug in the code, try this: sudo cp /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/xsessions/Lubuntu.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/
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| 07:55 | And reboot the client and see if LDM_SESSION=Lubuntu then works
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| 07:55 | I.e. I think that the client checks for a valid session on the server even if it's a fat client
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| 07:57 | <bakytn> alkisg, I am using fat clients the server is actually a Ubuntu Server and I have instaleld desktops on chroot
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| 07:58 | alkisg, ok let me try this
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| 08:00 | ok the trick worked
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| 08:01 | alkisg, so it's taking sessions from server's /usr/share/xsessions but then running them on chroot
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| 08:01 | alkisg, very important thing to know, thank you!
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| 08:15 | <vnc786> here is my syslog http://pastebin.com/aTb6BMaf
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| 08:16 | dhcp pack and dhcp discover keeps on repeating and booting is very slow ....
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| 08:17 | i have connected fat client machine directly to switch
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| 08:19 | some times fat clients just gets into busy box shell ...
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| 08:23 | <Hyperbyte> vnc786, and this happened suddenly?
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| 08:23 | <vnc786> yes
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| 08:25 | <Hyperbyte> Switch or network card broken?
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| 08:26 | See if you can get a ping test going or something. :)
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| 08:27 | <vnc786> i did, change the switch ,
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| 08:29 | Hyperbyte: did u see logs do u find issues by just looking because it taking so much dhcp request
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| 08:29 | previously it was working fine
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| 08:30 | Hyperbyte, if u remember yesterday i was asking one user which is not able to login ....suddenly
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| 08:31 | and today morning that user was able to ,login
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| 08:57 | <Hyperbyte> vnc786, one thing at a time. Your logs indicate the client keeps asking for dhcp and the server keeps replying.
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| 08:58 | It -seems- like the reply isn't arriving at the client, which would indicate a network problem.
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| 09:11 | <vnc786> Hyperbyte: but what made to happen this suddenly which i m not able to trace ..after some time i will connect 1 fat client machine directly to server...will let u know
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| 09:17 | <Hyperbyte> vnc786, first you have to find out -what- the problem is. Then you can figure out why this happened suddenly.
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| 09:17 | You could always of course restore your backup of 2 days ago, see if the problem persists.
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| 09:20 | <vnc786> once the fat client is booted it works normal means there is no issue in browsing printing etc. so just confused whether there is network problem?
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> Try disabling the ufw firewall
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| 09:24 | <vnc786> alkisg, i will try but just want to share some times back i did, ufw disable, and internet was not working...
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| 09:39 | <vnc786> i have just connected one fat clients directly to switch and i am getting this error lines "SQUASHFS error: unable to read metadata ......"
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| 09:56 | <bakytn> one of my thin clients showing "Connection refused" when booting
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| 10:31 | <bakytn> ok it was due to SATA failure..it's not LTSP issue
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| 10:43 | <MadX_ZA> Morning :)
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| 10:44 | Single question here ... Slightly older thin client (hp). is there a way to use the local flash as swap space ?
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| 10:44 | <alkisg> Why?
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| 10:45 | <MadX_ZA> oh look !! After pondering this for a while, the brain suddenly clicks .. server based app :(
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| 10:45 | :D
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| 10:45 | I answered my own question ..
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> server-side swap would be much faster for local apps too
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| 10:45 | <MadX_ZA> I'll take the ice-cream on the head now :(
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> E.g. running firefox on the server does require lots of *local* ram
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| 10:45 | <Hyperbyte> Wait. There's ice-cream in here???
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> And sometimes local swap is used there
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| 10:45 | <MadX_ZA> Basically, I am trying to see how much processing you can pass off to the client
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| 10:45 | :D
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| 10:45 | <alkisg> processing != swap
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| 10:46 | <MadX_ZA> I know that .. but processing requires mem
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> !nbd-swap
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| 10:46 | <ltsp> Error: "nbd-swap" is not a valid command.
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| 10:46 | <MadX_ZA> hence the question
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> LTSP does support swap over the network
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| 10:46 | And it's much faster than local flash-based swap
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| 10:46 | Hence the answer ;)
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| 10:46 | <MadX_ZA> ok, but I assume that 1Gb/s is recommended then ?
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| 10:47 | <alkisg> 1gbps is always recommented, not just for swap
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| 10:47 | A full screen flash video needs 2.5 gbps...
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| 10:47 | *hd
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| 10:47 | <MadX_ZA> The older terminals - think HP T5135 .. has a 100Mb/s card ..
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| 10:48 | I know the newer ones are better - but will the older ones still be usable ?
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> gigabit server, 100 mbps clients, still network swap would be faster than local flash based swap
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| 10:48 | <MadX_ZA> not looking for flash ..
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> Yes they're usable
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| 10:48 | Just don't try full screen flash videos :)
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| 10:48 | <MadX_ZA> correction - flash in the browser
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| 10:48 | lol
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| 10:48 | This will be for an intranet web app
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| 10:49 | so I will refrain from installing the plugin
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| 10:49 | And how responsive are the productivity suites ? LibreOffice/OO/Email ?
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> All fine except for impress
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| 10:50 | <MadX_ZA> Basically, want to convert 20 people onto ltsp to start...
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> Impress is ok for simple slides but it sucks when many effects are used
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| 10:50 | <MadX_ZA> Also, the lightest WM ?
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> It doesn't matter, it runs server-side
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| 10:50 | * alkisg is using gnome-fallback | |
| 10:51 | <alkisg> And unity-3d doesn't work at all on thin clients
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| 10:51 | And neither gnome-shell
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| 10:51 | <MadX_ZA> yeah, but any install is basically x20 on the server
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| 10:51 | gnome-shell out
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| 10:51 | unity out
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| 10:52 | would be nice to skin the thing to be as close to vista/7 as well ...
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| 10:52 | won't try to scare people with a start button that is in the wrong place
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| 10:52 | Which Email client is generally used in ltsp environments ?
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> LTSP isn't related to specific DEs or email clients
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| 10:53 | <MadX_ZA> yeah I know :)
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> So you're asking the wrong question :)
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| 10:53 | <MadX_ZA> but I'm sure that there are a few people with battle scars !!
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> Generally if you want ltsp statistics, I guess most users would answer "ubuntu with gnome-fallback"
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| 10:54 | <MadX_ZA> (y)
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| 10:54 | <alkisg> But that's just statistics...
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| 10:54 | ubuntu is the most popular distro, so yeah it'll have more ltsp users too, but that doesn't reflect your own requirements...
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| 10:54 | <MadX_ZA> well, I trawled through the ltsp docs for CentOS & Ubuntu ..
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| 10:55 | I agree that there seems to be more activity on the Ubuntu side
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| 10:56 | I am hoping to produce a solution that improves on the current "Office with outlook and sharing excel spreadsheets" solution
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| 10:56 | seriously - it's like trying to pay a cannibal to eat you last !
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> Hehe. Try first telling them to use thunderbird + calc, on windows
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| 10:56 | If they don't like that, they won't like linux either :D
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| 10:57 | <MadX_ZA> Well, it's an ageing infrastructure
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| 10:57 | So some changes will be forced - others will hopefully fall under the "nice-to-have" eg: calendering
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| 10:57 | but that's further down the line I guess
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| 10:59 | <Hyperbyte> Calendering is easy on Linux
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| 10:59 | Thunderbird has calendar add-on, there's also dedicated calendar software
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| 10:59 | Or, dare I say it, Google calendar.
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| 11:28 | <MadX_ZA> Well, looking at SOGo .. :)
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| 12:23 | <sha> hi! i need some help with epoptes: i have one ltsp-server with a fat-client chroot and i can use epoptes in this way without any problems - but now i installed a second ltsp-server, which mainly mirrors the fat-client-image. so my question is: is it possible (and if, how?) to let the epoptes-client in chroot accept two certificates from two different servers? or would it be better to just use the same server certificate?
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| 12:56 | <vnc786> connected fat clients directly to server thru cat6 cable syslog http://pastebin.com/LFmihi5Y
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| 13:54 | <sbalneav> Morning all!
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| 13:55 | <sbalneav> Day 3 of hackfest
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| 14:00 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> sha: use the same certificate, copy the server's /etc/epoptes (take care to copy the attributes/owner too)
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| 14:46 | <sbalneav> alkisg: Hey ho! See the updates to the page?
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| 14:47 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:LTSPPamNotes
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| 14:47 | There
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| 14:48 | There's relatively few changes needed to make a chroot into a lightdm-pam login
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| 14:55 | <dead_inside> can anyone tell me what is next in the boot process after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom….Done"? after updating to 12.04LTS my fat clients take a very long time to boot and they wait like 5 minutes at that step
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> Hi sbalneav... yup I've read the irclogs + the wiki page, a very nice work! The cleanup script on the server is nice, maybe we can replace it with an ltsp-session script like I once proposed... but we still need a client-side cleanup.
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| 14:56 | Sorry but work + family things take too much time this week, I hope I'll be more available starting from tomorrow.
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| 14:57 | dead_inside: after they boot, cat /etc/network/interfaces, and pastebin
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| 14:58 | dead_inside: errr "after updating to 12.04?" chroot updates are not supported, you're supposed to build a new chroot
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| 14:59 | And nbd-server upgrades are a bit of a mess with the port vs name-based exports
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| 14:59 | <dead_inside> i should clarify better, i burnt down the old 10.04 server and reinstalled 12.04 lts and resetup ltsp
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> OK, do what I said above with /etc/network/interfaces then
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| 15:00 | <dead_inside> http://pastebin.com/3s7uWeKF
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| 15:00 | and thank you much for the help alkisg
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> dead_inside: is the ethernet name actually eth0? ip link show
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| 15:01 | <dead_inside> indeed eth0
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> !quiet-splash
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| 15:01 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> ...wow 30 secs for the bot to wake up :D
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| 15:01 | <dead_inside> lol
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| 15:02 | <alkisg> Remove all of the above 4 keywords and reboot client
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| 15:02 | <dead_inside> i have the splash disabled, thats how i saw the "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom….Done"
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| 15:02 | <alkisg> splash != quiet
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| 15:02 | <dead_inside> it goes real fast until that point
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> After init-bottom usually the real system is started
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| 15:04 | To verify, put ltsp.break=50-fstab in the kernel command line
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| 15:04 | If you get a shell really quick, then your problem is after the initramfs
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| 15:04 | <dead_inside> trying now, thanks
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> If you get a 5 mins delay before that, then your problem is in the initramfs...
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| 15:05 | dead_inside: do you have a PRINTER set in lts.conf?
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| 15:05 | <dead_inside> no
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| 15:05 | <alkisg> ok
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| 15:11 | <dead_inside> ok i had a good 5 min delay before the mount errors
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| 15:11 | so i must have screwed up my initramfs some how
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> What mount errors?
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| 15:12 | <dead_inside> this is the first time they have come up, An error occured while mounting /
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| 15:13 | <alkisg> That's before "running init-bottom scripts", right?
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| 15:13 | <dead_inside> after
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| 15:13 | <alkisg> cat /etc/fstab => pastebin
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| 15:13 | (client0
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| 15:15 | <dead_inside> i will probably need to remove ltsp.break=50-fstab to get it to boot enough for me to be able to cat
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> You can just type "exit" there
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| 15:16 | But no, you should be able to cat from there too
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| 15:18 | <dead_inside> yea the keyboard does not respond at all
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> Maybe you didn't remove all 4 parts of the quiet-splash line?
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| 15:19 | E.g. the force-plymouth part...
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| 15:20 | <dead_inside> i have: append ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 ltsp.break=50-fstab nbdroot=:ltsp_x64-r1
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| 15:22 | <alkisg> Weird name, ltsp_x64-r1, but anyways that sounds about right...
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| 15:23 | <dead_inside> idk where the ltsp_ part came from but the x64-r1 part is because this is the first revision of the image, once i get an image working updates go into a different image like x64-r2 so that i can always fail back
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> OK, remove the break part so that you can check fstab
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| 15:28 | Although I'm wondering if it's nbd related instead of fstab-related... check also the server's syslog
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| 15:28 | <dead_inside> rebooting now, thanks again alkisg
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| 15:43 | alkisg http://pastebin.com/2PdEfeQD
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| 15:43 | the cat of fstab and a copy of the syslog
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| 15:43 | from the server
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> It seems ok
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| 15:48 | Different break points, to better pinpoint the problem:
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| 15:48 | break=top or anything else from this list: grep maybe_break /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init
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| 15:48 | ltsp.break=50-fstab or anything else from this list: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/init-ltsp.d
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| 16:10 | <Enslaver> Anyone play with dnsmasq? it worth looking at for ltsp or is it a dead end?
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| 16:13 | <jammcq> I think lots of people use it
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| 16:14 | I prefer good ole dhcp and bind
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| 16:24 | <Enslaver> yeah prefer that too, i was playing with it as a one in all replacement for a 'one server for everything' replacement. I'm also designing dialog menu's and forms for easy setup, just making sure there are no 'show stoppers' in dnsmasq.
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| 16:37 | <alkisg> Enslaver: there are
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| 16:38 | It doesn't ping clients in parallel when they're asking for a lease
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| 16:38 | So it's only suitable as a dhcp server for a small number of clients
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| 16:38 | But it works fine as a proxydhcp server, dns server, and tftp server
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| 16:38 | We've been using it on 500 schools here with an external dhcp server (cisco router) with no problems
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| 16:53 | <sha> alkisg: thank you for your answer (epoptes+server certificates), i already did that and it's working fine :) though it would be pretty cool if it'd be possible to control epoptes-clients on different servers from the same epoptes instance
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| 16:53 | took me some time to realise that i have to use the epoptes-gui on every server to control all instances
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> Reverse connections make it easier for LTSP but less easy for standalone installations
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| 16:54 | You can use remoteapps or ssh -X to launch the epoptes UI in other machines...
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| 16:58 | <sha> yes, it's working absolutely fine for me, just thought it would be "nicetohave" to only need one epoptes-ui instance for all client. i don't know about the internals
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| 16:59 | for now i have two vnc sessions running on every server with epoptes-ui
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| 17:01 | <sha> bye everyone, have a nice day
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| 17:42 | <workingcats> hi everyone, i'm havinga little problem with LTSP.. i'm using zentyal (ubuntu 12.04 derivative) with ltsp 5.3.7 and it's working quite nicely except it doesnt appear to use any changes to the thin client image i make
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| 17:43 | however, on boot of the thin client i can tell by the size it displays that it is in fact loading the correct image (/opt/ltsp/images/i386.img) - but the changes i made in the image don't show up
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| 17:43 | <jammcq> workingcats: did you run ltsp-update-image ?
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| 17:44 | <workingcats> e.g. i put an archive file into the / of the chroot, ran ltsp-update-image, loop mounted the image to check and the new file is there
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| 17:44 | jammcq: yeah, i made the changes in the chroot path and ran that
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| 17:44 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 17:45 | <workingcats> then rebooted the thin client. even tried shutting down the thin client, running ltsp-update-image, rebooting the server, and firing up the client again but no luck
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| 17:46 | <jammcq> ok, so you booted the thin client
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| 17:47 | then, how did you look to see if your changes were there on the client?
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| 17:48 | <workingcats> jammcq: two ways, a) the keyboard was still set to english (i had added setxkbmap de to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ) and b) the files i created in / and /etc/ didn't show up
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| 17:49 | <jammcq> didn't show up where? how did you look?
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| 17:49 | <workingcats> oh i opened lxterm and did "ls /" and "ls /etc/"
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| 17:50 | <jammcq> are you sure the xterm was running locally? by default, all programs run on the server
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| 17:50 | so if you open a terminal and start poking around, you are actually looking at the server disk
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| 17:50 | from the lxterm, see if you have a /opt/ltsp directory
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| 17:50 | if you do, you are on the server
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| 17:50 | <workingcats> yes you're right
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| 17:51 | i thought they run on the server but using the image
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| 17:51 | <jammcq> no
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| 17:51 | Xorg is running on the client
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| 17:51 | lxterm is runnign on the server
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| 17:51 | they are connected via the X protocol
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| 17:51 | over the network
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| 17:52 | <workingcats> i see
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| 17:52 | <jammcq> so the 2 ways you checked, 'b' was a flawed check
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| 17:52 | 'a' shows that something is wrong with setting your keymap
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| 17:52 | <alkisg> !localxterm
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| 17:52 | <ltsp> localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
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| 17:52 | <jammcq> it's been too long for me to remember how the keymap stuff works
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| 17:53 | <workingcats> well i know the command i need to execute to set it, and i'm happy to just stick that in e.g. xinitrc
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| 17:53 | so if i just edit it on /etc/X11/..... on the server itself it should work?
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| 17:54 | <alkisg> You can just set XKBLAYOUT in lts.conf
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| 17:54 | <jammcq> ummm, it might. i've lost track of where things run
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| 17:54 | <alkisg> No need to modify any files
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| 17:54 | <jammcq> yeah, do what alkisg said
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| 17:54 | <workingcats> does /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 sound like it's possibly correct?
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| 17:55 | <alkisg> Or just run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration` in the chroot
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| 17:55 | lts.conf goes in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 17:55 | <workingcats> ok just having it reboot
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| 17:56 | ok so if i want to use e.g. xfce-terminal rather than lxterm i just install it on the server?
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| 17:56 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 17:56 | Btw `cat /etc/default/keyboard` will tell you of the correct XKB* values
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| 17:56 | (on the server)
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| 17:57 | <workingcats> very good, thanks
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| 17:57 | just trying it out now
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| 17:57 | yep that worked
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| 17:58 | and now that i know where to look i finally found the users' home directories as well hehe
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| 17:58 | yes this actually makes a lot more sense than the insanity i had come up with in my head
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| 18:00 | and this really uses just X network transparency?
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| 18:04 | brb, just gonna shift from the office to home :)
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| 20:21 | <Enslaver> How can you all just be sitting back and coding, they elected a new pope!
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| 20:21 | From now on, we must stand and code
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| 20:21 | <jammcq> ah, from south america
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| 20:22 | <Enslaver> yeah whats his name again? Something itilian sounding
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| 20:22 | <jammcq> he's only 76, wow
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| 20:22 | Pope Francis
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| 20:22 | <Enslaver> Ah yes
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| 20:22 | <jammcq> Jorge Mario Bergoglio
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| 20:22 | <Enslaver> I was gonna say Jarvis
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| 20:23 | It's the first Francis tho
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| 20:23 | <jammcq> reminds me of Stripes. You call me Francis... I'll kill ya
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| 20:24 | <Enslaver> St. Francis is actually an all girls school where i live
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| 21:18 | <markit> Phantomas: hi, any schedule for an epoptes update in greek's repo? btw, I've not had time to file a bug for WOL and 2 interface ltsp serer
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| 21:23 | <Phantomas> hey markit, not something specific, I'm currently writing with alkisg a configuration daemon for LTSP, after that (which hopefully won't take long) we'll have a new release of epoptes
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| 21:24 | <Phantomas> btw, it will be released on the epoptes repo too :)
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| 21:25 | markit: Did you test broadcasting with threads enabled?
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| 21:25 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: how goes?
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| 21:27 | <markit> Phantomas: I tested broadcasting but in a lab with all gbit clients. worked well,but I remember that was slow in the other lab with 100 mb clients, so I've no a precise idea of the improvement
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| 21:27 | in any case worked fine :)
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| 21:48 | <warren> What's that faster ssh cypher name? can't remember.
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> blowfish?
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| 21:52 | arcfour?
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| 22:26 | <Enslaver> arcfour is what i use for ssh, it delivers X fast
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| 22:28 | * vagrantc seems to recall arcfour128 providing near-identical speed with one of the major security issues of plain arcfour being addressed. | |
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