IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 June 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:01 | <Gnoze5> cant get pt_PT working on ldm
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| 03:03 | hm
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| 03:03 | afterall its just the login screen
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| 03:03 | annoying
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| 03:48 | <alkisg> Gnoze5: did you install the langpack in the chroot?
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| 03:55 | <Gnoze5> yep
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| 03:55 | its working now
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| 03:55 | well
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| 03:55 | working everything
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| 03:55 | except the login screen
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| 03:56 | alkisg still wondering how to use acl for the context
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| 04:10 | now im trying to figure out how to share a printer tha is connected locally to a client
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| 04:13 | <alkisg> For the login screen, try setting LANG in lts.conf
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| 04:13 | <Gnoze5> okidoki
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| 04:13 | alkisg is it easy to get a local printer shared to other clients?
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| 04:13 | <alkisg> For the printer, man lts.conf => PRINTER_0_DEVICE etc
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| 04:13 | For the acl, ...what? :)
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| 04:13 | <Gnoze5> the acl its solved :P
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| 04:14 | does the user have to be logged in for the printer to still be shared or does the client just to be turned on?
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| 04:14 | <alkisg> Just turned on (afaik)
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| 04:30 | <Gnoze5> well it was hard but its working well now
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| 04:31 | and we havent done any optimization
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| 04:34 | <alkisg> LDM_DIRECTX=True is the most vital one, if your security allows it
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| 04:34 | The network module problem was solved in more recent initramfs-tools versions so it shouldn't trouble us in the future
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| 04:35 | And I hope something can be done with that silly compiz problem...
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| 04:39 | <Gnoze5> i had 2 clients having bad boots every so often
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| 04:39 | disabling the ndb proxy seemed to do the trick
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| 04:39 | in this case i do have ldm_directx true
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| 05:13 | <Gnoze5> argh
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| 05:13 | anyone around to help me with a local usb printer?
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| 05:16 | <muppis> Gnoze5, I can't rely my memory, but I can try. What's the deal?
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| 05:19 | <Gnoze5> im trying to get a printer connected to a client via usb
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| 05:19 | to work on that client
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| 05:20 | and to be shared
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| 05:20 | <muppis> Do you have root access to client?
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| 05:20 | <Gnoze5> i havent set it already
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| 05:20 | but i can
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| 05:20 | <muppis> (I'm lazy to read backlog with N900 right now)
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| 05:21 | Get it and ook do have jetpipe running
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| 05:21 | *look
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| 05:22 | <Gnoze5> rebuilding the img
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| 05:23 | <muppis> At same time command getltscfg -a and check does it give same as set.
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| 05:24 | My commands can be mistyped because I don't now have access any client to check proper syntax.
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| 05:24 | <Gnoze5> yep
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| 05:25 | jetpipe is running
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| 05:25 | and
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| 05:25 | <muppis> Looks good. Then which port it is listening? Should be 9100.
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| 05:25 | <Gnoze5> its on 9600
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| 05:26 | and the getltscfg does have what i set
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| 05:26 | device_0_printer dev/lp0
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| 05:26 | <muppis> usb printer?
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| 05:26 | <Gnoze5> yep
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| 05:27 | <muppis> Then it should be /dev/usblp0 or /dev/usb/lp0
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| 05:27 | What you have set in lts.conf?
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| 05:28 | <Gnoze5> just that
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| 05:28 | localdev true
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| 05:28 | do i need to force the port?
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| 05:28 | i have a printer_0_device under the mac address of the client where the printer is
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| 05:28 | <muppis> No need to.
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| 05:28 | <Gnoze5> and localdev true for default
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| 05:29 | <muppis> Hold a sec..
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| 05:30 | <Gnoze5> oki
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| 05:32 | <muppis> Put printer_0_type = u in lts.conf
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| 05:33 | <Gnoze5> ok
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| 05:33 | btw
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| 05:33 | its on 9100
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| 05:33 | now
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| 05:35 | <muppis> Then it can be found.
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| 05:35 | <Gnoze5> ok
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| 05:35 | by who?
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| 05:35 | the client
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| 05:35 | or any of the clients?
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| 05:35 | <muppis> You should someway get fixed address for that client to ease printer usage afterwards.
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| 05:36 | <Gnoze5> hm I see
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| 05:36 | so i should set it as a newtork printer?
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| 05:38 | <muppis> Yes.
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| 05:42 | <Gnoze5> ok its working
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| 05:42 | awesome
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| 05:42 | thank you
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| 05:43 | whats the smartest way to set it up to all user accounts as default?
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| 05:51 | <Gnoze5> ok
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| 05:52 | i answered myself
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| 05:52 | muppis thanks for the help :P
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| 05:52 | bbs
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| 12:17 | <sunscreen> helloo
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| 12:21 | hey i have a 64bit debian sqeeze (6.0) machine, with ltsp from packages .. i setup with lts-build-client -arch i386, and set lts.conf so its SCREEN_01 = rdesktop -f -a 16 <ip of server>, but i just get a black screen for that tty and mouse icon. ..
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| 12:23 | i had this issue with my home test setup .. but i made it go away ..some how ..i am wondering if you know what the "some how" was
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| 12:23 | i can rdesktop from gnome desktop that works fine
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| 12:23 | but over the land/lts/pxe i get those symptoms
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| 12:25 | LDM also works and logs in ok .. so my wild guess this a windows term server issue.. but what could it be
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| 12:26 | how can i find out what version of ltsp i am using
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| 12:39 | http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg39217.htm
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| 12:39 | http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=13740 .
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| 12:39 | .. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555840
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| 12:41 | http://ask.metafilter.com/69316/Why-do-I-get-a-black-screen-when-using-Remote-Desktop-Connection
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| 12:43 | Bitmap caching - or MTU .. I just cant see it with out of the box network settings
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| 12:44 | Bitmap caching or resolution/bit depth not high enough on the client [yes/no]
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> sunscreen: remove all SCREENs from lts.conf and logon to gnome normally on the thin client. Then run: ltsp-localapps xterm. And then try the rdesktop command from that local terminal.
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| 12:52 | <sunscreen> aaah!
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> (for troubleshooting)
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| 12:52 | <sunscreen> see i was trying to doing SCREEN_01=xterm
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| 12:52 | hehe
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| 12:52 | <alkisg> Don't use SCREEN_01 on debian/ubuntu, it's reserved for the boot messages
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| 12:53 | Use >= screen_02
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| 12:53 | <sunscreen> double doh!
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| 12:54 | <alkisg> There's no xterm screen script. Hmm it would be handy to have one, though :)
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| 12:55 | <sunscreen> yup... tnx for the enlightenment on that tho :)
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| 12:55 | Nick change: LoveStor- -> LoveStorm | |
| 13:00 | <sunscreen> i have to wait till tomorrow now to progress
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| 13:02 | another thing is
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| 13:02 | can you turn off fb console on the bootup
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| 13:03 | its kinda outputs slightly corrupted
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| 13:03 | <alkisg> Not sure what debian uses for thin client boot screen, wait for someone else
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| 13:04 | <sunscreen> k
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| 13:04 | i think i saw some where you can pass the kernel boot options
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 13:07 | <sunscreen> so it was a case of pebkac
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| 13:08 | lots of the lts blackscreen rdesktop threads all have a re-occurring theme
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| 13:08 | SCREEN_01
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| 13:08 | and debian/ubuntu
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| 14:02 | <sunscreen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935416 kinda neat but primitive method to load balance
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| 14:04 | also opens the door for a more sophisticated approach as lykwydchykyn mentions
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| 14:18 | i also feeling to try and setup samba on the client to share its local cdrom back to the virtual machine the they end up with rdesktop
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| 14:18 | that would be kinda cool lol
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| 14:18 | has any one got sound working btw and how do you do it?
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| 14:20 | heheh in the windows machine you would end up having cd drive shares for every client i wonder if you could make them visible only per user in windows some how
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| 14:21 | <muppis> sunscreen, IIRC there is an option in rdesktop to connect local dvices to remote.
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| 14:24 | <sunscreen> ok great ;)
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| 14:37 | so in theory: rdesktop -a 32 -f -x lan -r sound:local 192.168.1.20 is my ideal command then
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| 14:37 | er
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| 14:38 | rdesktop -a 32 -f -x lan -r sound:local -r disk:cdrom=/mnt/cdrom 192.168.1.20
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| 14:41 | sorry i am so full of questions today ;) .. but i am now wondering how rdesktop is handling multicore cpu's
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| 14:41 | <muppis> Locally?
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| 14:43 | <sunscreen> well i don't see any mention in the options of rdesktop but it would be kinda cool to devide the screen by the number of cores and have each core drawing a different area of the display
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| 14:45 | <muppis> I think GPU usage could be better.
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| 14:47 | Because singlecore machine can have good gpu.
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| 14:47 | <sunscreen> well with gpu's blowing away cpu's these days your right... i dont thing the dc gpu things is still in full swing any more seems like they gave up may be they just don't need with the present line ups
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| 14:53 | welp
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| 14:53 | i going to try and trigger the blackscreen of death on my system
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| 15:20 | <sarthor> Hi, i isntalled Ltsp server, and my laptop booted from that server, Now my laptop is asking for username and password, how to add user name and password in ltsp server machine for the client
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| 15:24 | <sunscreen> adduser
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| 15:27 | ltsp-update-image runs like shit of a shovel on our raid1 array
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| 15:29 | <muppis> sarthor, client usess same account as server does.
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| 15:29 | You're logging into server, not in client. It is just screen, mouse and kb.
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| 15:30 | <sarthor> muppis, i added adduser toshiba and then gave password 123456, but i am not able to login from the client, Even i restarted the client machine too
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| 15:31 | <muppis> Can you log with those to server with ssh?
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| 15:31 | <sarthor> let me check muppis a minute please
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| 15:33 | muppis, yes i can ssh using that user
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| 15:33 | but cant login from client laptop as a thin client to my ltsp server
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| 15:38 | <sunscreen> sarthor, sounds kinda screwy even to me, I would try and rebuild the client image
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| 15:40 | <sarthor> sunscreen, I am very much new to this stuff, that was my 1st try, i really don't go back, how to rebuild client image,
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| 15:40 | sunscreen, sudo ltsp-build-client
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| 15:40 | NOTE: Root directory /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists, this will lead to problems, please remove it before trying again. Exiting.
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| 15:40 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 15:41 | <sunscreen> no, try: ltsp-update-sshkeys ; ltsp-update-kernel; ltsp-update-image
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| 15:41 | <sarthor> Ahh. i started ltsp-update-image, is it ok? or i have to go with your sequence?
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| 15:43 | sunscreen, after updating these, how to restart ltsp ? or i will need to restart the machine?
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| 15:44 | <sunscreen> no you dont need to restart anything
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| 15:44 | you can do them in what ever order really i think
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| 15:44 | but sshkeys might be the important one did you do it previously?
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| 15:45 | <sarthor> yes
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| 15:45 | done all, booting again client
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| 15:45 | sunscreen, still i can not login, the login screen came back.
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| 15:46 | <sunscreen> pastebin your lts.conf
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| 15:46 | <sarthor> ok
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| 15:50 | sunscreen, i can not find lts.conf, where is that file,
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| 15:50 | i using ubuntu natty 11.04 desktop
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| 15:51 | <sunscreen> /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 15:53 | <sarthor> sunscreen, in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc there is lts.conf i pasted http://pastebin.com/m5WB3d5q
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| 15:54 | <sunscreen> uh oh
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| 15:55 | <sarthor> sunscreen, forgave me, just started today with this stuff.
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| 15:55 | <sunscreen> don't worry this is the blind leading the blind :)
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| 15:56 | <sarthor> no problem, we are not going to destroy anything, all going just for learning
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| 15:56 | <sunscreen> well you have what i would deem to be an abnormal lts.conf
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| 15:57 | <sarthor> hmm, i followed this http://amazai.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22 and all came into existance
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| 16:00 | <sunscreen> http://pastebin.com/tdw7isUQ
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| 16:01 | <sunscreen> something thing that i was reading earlier in relation to the keyboard map, just had me thinking does the password have any special characters?
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| 16:02 | <sarthor> there are tow mac addresses? should i paste lts.conf as mine??
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| 16:02 | no special ccharacter in password
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| 16:02 | <sunscreen> yeah those are the mac's of your thin clients
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| 16:03 | or you can just do sections like [192.168.1.123]
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| 16:04 | <sarthor> I copied / pasted, same result
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| 16:05 | <sunscreen> can you authenticate via ssh from localhost on the server?
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| 16:06 | <sarthor> yes
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| 16:07 | i did toshiba@localhost and that asked for passwords, i gave password, and logged in
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| 16:08 | <sunscreen> ok
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| 16:08 | do this then
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| 16:09 | <sarthor> yes?
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| 16:09 | <sunscreen> ltsp-chroot
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| 16:09 | passwd root
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| 16:09 | enter passwds
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| 16:09 | exit
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| 16:09 | then login as root on the ltsclient
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| 16:09 | then perform the ssh session
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| 16:09 | see what it has to say for itself
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| 16:10 | you need lts-update-image after that too
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| 16:13 | may be watch the sshd logs
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| 16:15 | <sarthor> said. a new version of the iamge is available.. rebooting..
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| 16:15 | now rebooting
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| 16:16 | rebooted. but still i am no table to login, with toshiba user as well as root.
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| 16:16 | <sunscreen> strange should be able to login as root
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| 16:17 | oh
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| 16:17 | switch to real console
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| 16:17 | on the client
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| 16:17 | <sarthor> how??
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| 16:17 | <sunscreen> ctrl-alt-f1
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| 16:18 | <sarthor> ok. the bad FN key
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| 16:18 | now?
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| 16:18 | <sunscreen> ctrl-alt-f2
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| 16:18 | <sarthor> i am in real consol now
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| 16:18 | <sunscreen> now you can login as root
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| 16:18 | <sarthor> yes
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| 16:18 | i am logged in
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| 16:20 | how to login in GUI
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| 16:20 | <sunscreen> now do the ssh session
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| 16:21 | <sarthor> ssh to whom ? localhost?
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| 16:21 | <sunscreen> to the server
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| 16:22 | <sarthor> yes. i logged in to server via ssh thru the toshiba user
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| 16:24 | <sunscreen> hmmz
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| 16:27 | <sarthor> is there somthing next?
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| 16:27 | Coz i am not logged in to GUI
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| 16:27 | <sunscreen> "run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and sudo ltsp-update-image (in this order) it should be gone then" some other guys words regarding similar problem .
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| 16:29 | not sure if it mater either i dont think it should if you just got a pure 32 bit server/clients but you could pass lts-update-image -a i386
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| 16:30 | but i am kind sure if you can login via ssh then you should be able to login into ldm
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| 16:30 | <sarthor> Ahh. it said toshiba is not in the sudoers
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| 16:30 | when i did sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 16:31 | <sunscreen> su root
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| 16:32 | you may do a war cry after that command
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| 16:32 | <sarthor> su root , su - sudo none of them working
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| 16:32 | athentication failure
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| 16:33 | <sunscreen> if you cant su root.. then well problem+problems
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| 16:34 | <sarthor> yea i m root now
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| 16:34 | let me do that now
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| 16:37 | no brother,
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| 16:37 | restarted but still not working
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| 16:38 | again it says after ltsp-update-image that new image found
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| 16:38 | and restarted.
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| 16:40 | <sunscreen> puzzling
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| 16:40 | i think i will go think on it in the tub for half and hour
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| 16:42 | <sarthor> no problem. I am also reading. Thanks for the time.
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| 16:46 | <sunscreen> just one more thing that it might be .. doubtful but could be worth a shot try: xhost +remote.machine
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| 19:50 | <sunscreen> is this worth doing ??
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| 19:50 | http://bootpolish.net/home_ltsp_ltspclientupgrade
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