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Channel log from 18 July 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:16 | <muppis> Is there any trick to do to get X working in virtual when using 14.04?
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| 07:17 | Server is fresh installation.
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| 08:21 | <FrozenZia> Hey alkisg -- didn't mean to NOT answer you the other day. Resetting my nbd-server did NOT help in my case. (shall I remind you what the case was?)
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| 08:35 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: so, it's not the same issue as john hupp. The symptom is that the client ends up in the initramfs, right?
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| 08:37 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: yes.
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| 08:37 | <alkisg> Ubuntu 12.04 without PPAs?
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| 08:38 | <FrozenZia> hmmm... without PPAs... one moment...
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| 08:38 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: grep append /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 08:39 | head -n 1 /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf
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| 08:39 | What's the output of those 2 commands?
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| 08:40 | <FrozenZia> last one is: [/opt/ltsp/i386]
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| 08:40 | <alkisg> OK so you probably have the greek schools ppa in your sources
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| 08:40 | The other one?
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| 08:41 | <FrozenZia> http://pastebin.com/0S4eqaSx
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| 08:42 | <alkisg> Boot a client and try this:
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| 08:42 | !nbd-client
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| 08:42 | <ltsp`> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 08:42 | <alkisg> Put your server IP there
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| 08:44 | <FrozenZia> silly (?) question - should ppa's show up in my /etc/apt/sources.list? I don't see any, is the thing.
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| 08:44 | <alkisg> /etc/apt/sources.list.d
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| 08:44 | <FrozenZia> But yes, booting the client...
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| 08:44 | <alkisg> You can also do: apt-cache policy ltsp-server
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| 08:44 | It'll show you the versions and their sources
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| 08:48 | <FrozenZia> nbd-client trick failed with connection time out (socket failed)
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| 08:48 | Error: Socket failed: Connection timed out
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| 08:48 | Exiting.
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| 08:49 | "arp -a" on the server side shows the client's IP address, though...
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| 08:50 | (and client responds to pings)
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| 08:50 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: sudo netstat -nap | grep nbd-server
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| 08:50 | ps aux|grep nbd-server
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| 08:51 | grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd-server
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| 08:51 | Output of those, on the server?
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| 08:52 | <FrozenZia> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6093/nbd-server
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| 08:52 | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6093/nbd-server
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| 08:52 | nbd 6093 0.0 0.0 3804 832 ? Ss Jul17 0:00 /bin/nbd-server
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| 08:52 | kayttaja 8556 0.0 0.0 5632 800 pts/0 S+ 11:51 0:00 grep --color=auto nbd-server
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> This one too: grep -i nbd /var/log/syslog
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| 08:53 | And don't forget the previous one: (11:51:26 πμ) alkisg: grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd-server
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| 08:54 | <FrozenZia> http://pastebin.com/kk9VcNWp -- gre -rv is at the end of that pastebin
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| 08:54 | No nbd entries in syslog.
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> Did you put the correct IP in the initramfs nbd-client command?
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| 08:55 | Not a hostname, but the server ip...
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| 08:56 | <FrozenZia> yes.
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| 08:57 | don't know if it's possibly related but dmesg on the server has MANY msgs like this: "eth2: no IPv6 routers present"
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> Try this from the client initramfs: wget http://server-ip:10809
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| 08:58 | In the meantime, on the server, do this: tail -f /var/log/syslog
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| 08:58 | It should show some nbd server messages...
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| 08:59 | (btw, it might be a firewall issue, preventing access to port 10809...)
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| 08:59 | FrozenZia: ah, did you reboot the server, or just restarted nbd-server?
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| 09:00 | I think that kernel bug made it so that restarting nbd-server didn't actually help...
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| 09:00 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: just restarted nbd-server
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| 09:00 | <alkisg> A `kill -9` was needed then...
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| 09:00 | FrozenZia: ok, try this:
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| 09:00 | 1) sudo service nbd-server stop
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| 09:00 | 2) ps aux|grep nbd ==> it should not be there
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| 09:00 | 3) sudo killall -9 nbd-server
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| 09:00 | 4) sudo service nbd-server start
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| 09:00 | 5) the nbd-client command from the initramfs:
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| 09:01 | !nbd-client
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| 09:01 | <ltsp`> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 09:01 | <SpComb> `iptables -vL` on the ltsp server is empty apart from policy ACCEPT?
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| 09:03 | <FrozenZia> hei kampa -- FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/3.2.0-65-generic-pae/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
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| 09:03 | iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
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| 09:03 | Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
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| 09:03 | Still get connection timed out.
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| 09:04 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: next try:
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| 09:04 | 1) server: tail -f /var/log/syslog
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| 09:05 | 2) server, another terminal: wget localhost:10809
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| 09:05 | Do you see nbd server messages in "tail"?
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| 09:05 | <FrozenZia> BTW: This same server is being used to provide "startup" pkgs to several test benches in my workshop, and those are still working fine. I have included 01-MACADDRESS files that specify e.g. that 1 system should be passed a memchk pkg.
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| 09:06 | alkisg: yes, get the nbd server msg.
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| 09:06 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: and yet, when you did that from the initramfs, you didn't see the message...
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| 09:06 | <FrozenZia> True.
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| 09:07 | <alkisg> That sounds like a firewall issue then
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| 09:07 | Try contacting that 10809 server port, from other clients, booted ones, not ltsp clients
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| 09:07 | If you start seeing entries in syslog, then you've passed the firewall issue...
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| 09:08 | <FrozenZia> ok, very strange. Afaik, my physical set up has not changed here at all since the last time this was working...
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> A "service ufw start" could be enough to block the port with firewall..
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| 09:08 | It doesn't need to be a physical change
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| 09:09 | <FrozenZia> Hold the phone.
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| 09:10 | grrr... back up to the part where you asked if I put in the right ip address for the server and pretend I said no.
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| 09:11 | Major fail. So yes, nbd-client from the client to the actual SERVER ip does do something.
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| 09:11 | (Sorry I was confusing my gateway address...)
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| 09:12 | AND wget from the client DOES show error logs on the server
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| 09:19 | And yet, client continues to get socket connection timed out and drop to initramfs
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| 09:20 | 1st error msg after the connection time out is "mount: mounting /dev/ndb0 on /root failed: Invalid argument"
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| 09:22 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: it sounds like a dhcp issue then
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| 09:23 | in pxelinux.cfg/default, change ipappend 2 to ipappend 3 and reboot client
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| 09:24 | It's possible that you have 2 dhcp servers in your network...
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| 09:25 | <FrozenZia> there shouldn't be, but that seemed to do the trick -- got at least a login screen...
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> OK change it back to ipappend 2 in order to fix it properly
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| 09:26 | Reboot client so that it ends up to the initramfs
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| 09:28 | At initramfs, cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf, and check ROOTSERVER there
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| 09:28 | That's your "second" dhcp server, the "rogue" one
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| 09:28 | I.e. the router or whatever else you have...
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| 09:33 | <FrozenZia> hmmm -- even though I used tab-completion to check the file name, it tells me no such file or directory
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: also check in /run
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| 09:33 | Or, use `ls /run` or `ls /tmp`
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| 09:33 | Or, run this: `ipconfig -n eth0`
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| 09:33 | It'll show you the root server that gives the ip
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| 09:35 | <FrozenZia> ok, last one worked, root server is exactly the right one.
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| 09:36 | <alkisg> Do you know how to put `break=mount` at the append command of pxelinux.cfg/default?
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| 09:36 | If so, put it, so that you get a "clean" initramfs shell
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| 09:36 | And try again there to find the net-eth0.conf file
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| 09:38 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: should the command just then be "ipappend 2 break=mount"?
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| 09:38 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: no, not in that line
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| 09:38 | In the line above that
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| 09:38 | append init=sbin/init-ltsp etc break=mount
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| 09:38 | and next line, just:
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| 09:38 | ipappend 2
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| 09:38 | <FrozenZia> got it.
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| 09:47 | <FrozenZia> ok, that shows the same address, and is exactly as I'd expect it to be.
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| 09:49 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: now type "exit" for the boot process to continue
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| 09:50 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: I may run out of time to respond after this - if so will have to continue troubleshooting later. But HUGE thank you for all your help and patience!
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| 09:50 | <alkisg> np
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| 09:51 | <FrozenZia> ....back to initramfs. =o(
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> Btw, remove "quiet splash" etc from pxelinux.cfg/default in order to better see boot messages
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| 09:58 | <muppis> Any trick to take care with kvm virtual when trying to test 14.04 ?
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| 09:59 | X doesn't start, but root shell comes up.
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| 10:23 | <muppis> Which is good/usable DE in 14.04 thins clients?
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| 10:30 | <cyberorg> muppis, gnome-flashback works well
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| 10:40 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: k, so I've got quiet splash taken out... Trying to find relevant log msgs...
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| 10:41 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: not from the logs, but from the client's screen
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| 10:41 | <FrozenZia> "drm: registered panic notifier", followed by more detailed [drm] line, and then "error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon"
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| 10:41 | alkisg: yes, that's what I mean.
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| 10:42 | <alkisg> Nah those don't seem significant
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| 10:42 | Maybe a screenshot from a mobile phone could help
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| 10:42 | But if ipappend 3 solves it, it's dhcp-related
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| 10:42 | Try from your server too: sudo ipconfig -n eth0
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| 10:43 | If you do get a reply, then you do have another dhcp server
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| 10:43 | E.g. do you have a DSL router?
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| 10:48 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: Server doesn't recognize ipconfig as a command. No, actually, I have a desktop w/2 NICs hooked straight into the network outlet in my building. It has firestarter running and configured for internet connection sharing. The other NIC is connected to a switch that everything else is built on.
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: sudo /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig -n eth0
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| 10:56 | FrozenZia: if you have 2 nics, you should also have 2 completely separate subnets
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| 10:57 | If they're short-circuited somewhere, e.g. at some switch or at the building wiring, then it's 1 subnet, not 2
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| 10:57 | If ipappend 3 solves it, that is quite possibly the problem
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| 17:05 | <bennabiy> Is there a way to take a compressed nbd image and loopmount it rw to edit it?
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| 17:07 | <||cw> not if it's squashfs, at least not directly http://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2012/05/27/how-to-modify-squashfs-image/
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| 17:08 | is there some reason you can't edit in the chroot and rebuild?
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| 17:12 | <bennabiy> built using ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 17:12 | therefore no chroot
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| 17:17 | <||cw> well, then you can extract the image and thn you'll have a chroot
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| 17:48 | <bennabiy> yup... I appreciate the link
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| 17:48 | Thank you so much
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| 17:49 | ||cw: Are you a radio operator?
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| 17:49 | <||cw> no
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| 17:50 | <bennabiy> ok
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| 18:14 | <Hyperbyte> bennabiy, out of curiousity... why do you ask? :-)
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| 18:24 | <bennabiy> I just wondered about cw as related to morse code
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| 18:25 | * bennabiy occasionally gets on the amateur bands here in the states | |
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| 18:29 | <championofcyrodi> my ltsp server has been up for 71 days and I'm scared to bounce it for updates :\
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| 18:29 | its friday, and what if it doesnt boot...
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| 18:29 | <||cw> well, you'll have all weekend to fix it :P
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| 18:30 | I don't really have any qualms with rebooting linux servers these days unless they have customer kernel mode crap. as long as it's all standard packages with documented configs, it's pretty much a non-issue... unless you don't trust the hardware
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| 18:32 | <championofcyrodi> It's an HP Proliant d380 7th gen rack server...
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| 18:33 | <championofcyrodi> I had a lot of boot issues with 14.04 when i installed it about a week after release
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| 18:33 | and custom firmware needed for one of the fiber network interfaces i dont use
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| 18:33 | it would just hand on boot, or hang on shutdown.
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| 18:34 | but after a re-install, everything seems to be running pretty well
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| 18:34 | (71 days ago)
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| 18:34 | maybe it was 12.04 I was having the issues with, which is why i went to 14.04
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| 18:35 | <bennabiy> I have a gen 5 of that server
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| 18:35 | runs like a champ
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| 18:35 | but I run debian as the base for it
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| 18:36 | <bennabiy> championofcyrodi: did you grab the hp linux packages for it?
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| 18:36 | <championofcyrodi> bennabiy: no, i didnt know they existed.
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| 18:36 | <bennabiy> they are somewhat hidden, but I might be able to find the link for you
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| 18:37 | <championofcyrodi> I'm just running vanilla ubuntu server 14.04 w/ the ltsp packages
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| 18:37 | ksplice is supposed to installed kernel updates w/o reboot.. but i'm not sure i trust it
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| 18:37 | <bennabiy> championofcyrodi: here is a start... http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/servers/operating-systems/community-linux/index.html
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| 18:37 | <championofcyrodi> thanks
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| 18:37 | https://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-ubuntu
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| 18:38 | The HP Software Delivery Repository provides access to these core management features and tools.
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| 18:38 | but the link is dead :(
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| 18:39 | <championofcyrodi> http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/servers/operating-systems/community-linux/distributions.html#!&pd1=1 and ubuntu isnt supported :/
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| 18:39 | <bennabiy> http://downloads.linux.hp.com/SDR/getting_started.html
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| 18:39 | <championofcyrodi> ah, debian..
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| 18:39 | nvm
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| 18:40 | <bennabiy> anyways, I am gone for the weekend. Good luck with that!
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| 18:40 | <championofcyrodi> heh thanks
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