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Channel log from 17 July 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:33 | <lejo> someone has a flaky connection
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| 03:13 | <vpxavier> hello all... anyone conmfortable with nat?
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| 03:14 | I've just installed a server with ltsp and thin clients in kiosk mode and followed this tuto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT. Internet works on clients but not after a reboot...
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| 03:26 | <nathy> hello.
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| 03:26 | can I configure the image of the client, so that it's eth0 has a mtu size of 1200?
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| 06:17 | <nathy> Hi.
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| 06:18 | Can I do some configurations for the client image. like ip address, mtu size and so one?
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| 06:34 | <p9> hi
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| 06:36 | <p9> oops
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| 06:37 | so, i'm wondering, i need to have the rdesktop screen as default screen
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| 06:38 | it seems to not matter wether it's on VT #6 or #7, so i'm wondering how one can make that happen..
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| 06:42 | so how can i change the default vt?
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| 07:32 | <soul9> hi
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| 07:50 | <cyberorg> The_Code, hi
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| 07:50 | <The_Code> hi cyberorg
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| 07:50 | <cyberorg> welcome to the GSOC Easy-LTSP GUI meeting everyone
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| 07:50 | The_Code, tell us what is new since last week?
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| 07:51 | * lejo listens along | |
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| 07:52 | <The_Code> i was working on deploying lts.conf and getting the lts.conf shown in the section view
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| 07:52 | the last thing brought up some problems
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| 07:53 | as there might be a little gtk# problem
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| 07:54 | <cyberorg> what problems?
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| 07:54 | <The_Code> application crashes with SIGSEGV while executing native code
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| 07:56 | <cyberorg> so how do you plan to handle it
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| 07:57 | <The_Code> i am currently trying to get help on irc see if someone has a solution for my problem
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| 07:57 | if not i will try by building the whole stuff completly new
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| 07:58 | <cyberorg> The_Code, talk to abock or snorp
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| 07:58 | <The_Code> where can i find them
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| 07:58 | <nathy> hi. I try to access to ltsp over a vpn connection. but the image is not booting. it' is stopping at the point "Negotiation". when I access without the vpn it works. could you please help me?
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| 07:59 | <cyberorg> snorp is in #kiwi and abock in #opensuse-gnome
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| 08:01 | The_Code, what else?
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| 08:01 | <The_Code> basically this was all for the last week
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| 08:01 | had my last three exams this week
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| 08:02 | a little solution for the like loop problem to discover it
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| 08:05 | <cyberorg> how far is loading and saving of lts.conf implemented?
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| 08:05 | <nathy> could somebody help me please?
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| 08:05 | <The_Code> saving is working, loading (i.g. parsing) needs a little bit more love
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| 08:05 | <cyberorg> nathy, sorry no idea about your issue
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| 08:07 | <cyberorg> The_Code, you havent committed anything in svn yet since last week
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| 08:07 | hi kl_eisbaer welcome :)
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| 08:07 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: hi - sorry for being so late
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| 08:07 | <cyberorg> just summarizing: The_Code has run into gtk# issue, looking for help
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| 08:08 | <The_Code> on my way to make a commit with writing lts.conf
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| 08:11 | <cyberorg> ok, from my side nothing much to report, just added SLE 10 repo, so getting ltsp5 should now be easy there
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| 08:11 | kl_eisbaer, Easy-LTSP buildservice package is still broken
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| 08:12 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: ups, sorry.
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| 08:12 | <nathy> why is ltsp using the sccp protocol during booting?
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| 08:12 | <kl_eisbaer> Just have a first package in my home. ...
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| 08:14 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, have you tried the last tarball? http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/easy-ltsp.tar.bz2
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| 08:14 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: no, just version 0.2
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| 08:15 | <cyberorg> this one is snapshot after The_Code's last commit with most of the tasks added
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| 08:15 | <kl_eisbaer> ok. I just need some help getting the mono stuff build directly from SVN checkout
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| 08:16 | <cyberorg> The_Code, we need Makefile as soon as you can write one :)
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| 08:17 | <kl_eisbaer> ...and please just lower case names for your files ;-)
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| 08:17 | <The_Code> will make one
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| 08:17 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, i just use monodevelop, find all .dll and exe, dump it in a folder, add ip python script and conf file in there
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| 08:18 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: I don't think that this is the way to go in a specfile ;-)
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| 08:18 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, of course not :)
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| 08:18 | for local testing
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| 08:19 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: ok - that's a way - but as we're already at this point....
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| 08:19 | what about some "defined" pathnames for the new app?
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| 08:19 | currently I've the following pathnames in the specfile
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| 08:19 | /usr/bin
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| 08:19 | /etc/easy-ltsp
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| 08:19 | /usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp
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| 08:20 | /usr/share/applications
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| 08:20 | /usr/share/pixmaps
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| 08:20 | and the following files
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| 08:20 | /etc/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.conf
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| 08:20 | /usr/bin/{easy-ltsp.exe,ip-easy-ltsp-config.py}
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| 08:21 | /usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp/*.dll
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| 08:21 | /usr/share/{applications,desktop}/* (for the desktop entry)
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| 08:21 | <cyberorg> The_Code, will the exe find things installed in all these places now?
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| 08:22 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: and we should move the kiwi-ltsp from the easy-ltsp tarball IMO
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| 08:23 | adding a dependency to the kiwi-ltsp stuff is possible in rpm and deb - so it's only for testing
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| 08:23 | <cyberorg> kiwi-ltsp is not in there, it is part of kiwi-desc-ltsp package
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| 08:23 | <kl_eisbaer> and for this, it can go to a "contrib" directory or something like this
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| 08:24 | <The_Code> should find the dll, except kiwi dll, the py script yes
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| 08:24 | <cyberorg> sorry, i didnt get you
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| 08:24 | <kl_eisbaer> it's in the current tarball easy-ltsp-0.2.tar.gz
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| 08:25 | <The_Code> the libs will be fine, except for the kiwi specific dll
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| 08:26 | but wouldn't it be better to put the .exe in /etc/easy-ltsp and a script to start in /usr/bin
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| 08:26 | <kl_eisbaer> /usr/bin/Easy-LTSP.exe:14765): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /usr/bin/Easy-LTSP.exe could not be loaded
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| 08:26 | Assembly: Easy-LTSP.Common.Widgets (assemblyref_index=6)
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| 08:26 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, the current one is http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/easy-ltsp.tar.bz2
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| 08:26 | <kl_eisbaer> The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr/bin).
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| 08:27 | The_Code: putting the exe in /etc is no way - as FHS forbits it
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| 08:27 | <The_Code> k
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| 08:27 | <kl_eisbaer> the config should go into the /etc directory
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| 08:27 | we can discuss if the executable should go into /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
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| 08:28 | and we should discuss if the dll's are in the "right" directory
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| 08:28 | <lejo> it would go for /usr/sbin since our kiwi-ltsp-setup is also in that directory
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| 08:28 | <cyberorg> /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.exe can work
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| 08:29 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: hmpf ;-) - but ok for the first release
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| 08:29 | <cyberorg> all our mono apps are installed in there
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| 08:29 | <The_Code> i would prefer a script in usr/(s)bin and the .exe anywhere else
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| 08:29 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: you mean /usr/lib/mono ?
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| 08:29 | or /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/ ?
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| 08:29 | <cyberorg> /usr/lib/banshee-1/, /usr/lib/tomboy/ etc
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| 08:29 | <lejo> yeah like that
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| 08:30 | <The_Code> so people can start using easy-ltsp
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| 08:30 | and not mono ...
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| 08:30 | <kl_eisbaer> :D
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| 08:30 | ok
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| 08:31 | <cyberorg> /usr/bin/tomboy is just a wrapper script
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| 08:31 | <The_Code> so config goes in /etc/easy-ltsp/
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| 08:32 | or /etc/easy-ltsp.conf
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| 08:32 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: your decision
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| 08:32 | * kl_eisbaer would prefer a subdirectory | |
| 08:32 | <kl_eisbaer> => /etc/easy-ltsp/
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| 08:32 | /etc/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.conf
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| 08:32 | <kl_eisbaer> sorry, short sidequestion ;-)
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| 08:33 | <The_Code> kl_eisbaer: agree
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| 08:33 | <cyberorg> /etc/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.conf who know in future you may have more conf files for it
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| 08:33 | <lejo> +1
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| 08:33 | <The_Code> yeah, subdir
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| 08:34 | the gtk# stuff should be fixed
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| 08:34 | <cyberorg> The_Code, benefits of IRC ;)
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| 08:34 | <The_Code> yes i know
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| 08:35 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, run the last tarball and please give your input
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| 08:36 | <cyberorg> The_Code, the GUI needs a lot of love, layout looks quite tacky, i assume you are leaving it for later
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| 08:37 | <The_Code> cyberorg: correct, dialogs have no titles, redesign is needed
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| 08:40 | <cyberorg> you can leave that for last month
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| 08:40 | <lejo> maybe someone (like jimmac) can do a small design already for it?
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| 08:40 | <cyberorg> i got to go now, you guys can continue
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| 08:41 | <The_Code> cu cyberorg
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| 08:41 | <lejo> cu
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| 08:47 | <The_Code> it is working thank god, or better jpr
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| 08:47 | lts.conf in a tab
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| 08:58 | kl_eisbaer: i will put todays transcript on ml
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| 09:08 | <ltsppbot> "ltsp-user" pasted "NFS filesystem mounting -*- sh" (102 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/29
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| 09:10 | <cyberorg> The_Code, thanks :)
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| 09:10 | <The_Code> np
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| 09:18 | <cyberorg> The_Code, shouldnt that be /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/ ?
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| 09:18 | <The_Code> <kl_eisbaer> /usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp/*.dll
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| 09:18 | <ltsppbot> "ltsp-user" pasted "else NBD_SWAP_SERVER="${ROOTSE" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/30
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| 09:19 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: ok
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| 09:19 | <The_Code> cyberorg: took what kl_eisbaer said
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| 09:20 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: I'm fine with both solutions.
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| 09:20 | /usr/lib/easy-ltsp or /usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp - I just looked into the zmd package
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| 09:20 | and this uses /usr/lib/mono/zmd
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| 09:22 | <The_Code> took a look in my /usr/lib/mono , we should take /usr/lib/easy-ltsp
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| 09:23 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: ok - let's keep it finaly there :-)
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| 09:23 | <The_Code> kl_eisbaer: yes
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| 09:29 | <ltsppbot> "ltsp-user" pasted "fi echo "Setting MTU..." ifcon" (6 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/31
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| 09:54 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: FYI: svn copy https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/kiwi-ltsp/branches/ltsp-gui/trunk/Easy-LTSP https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/kiwi-ltsp/branches/ltsp-gui/branches/easy-ltsp-0.2.182 -m "- tagging the first specfile version"
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| 09:55 | <jorgezero> hi everyone... a have some doubts abous ltsp log-in system...
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| 09:56 | <The_Code> kl_eisbaer: current state in repo would be 0.3 and has deploy lts.conf in it
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| 09:56 | <jorgezero> may i prevent a user to log-in on more than 1 client?
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| 09:56 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: ok - I just need to know a version number to create the package :-)
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| 09:56 | and the SVN revision is a good starting point :-)
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| 09:57 | <The_Code> in /Easy-LTSP/AssemblyInfo.cs there is a property for it
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| 09:57 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: a, ok. Thanks
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| 09:58 | But perhaps you like to branch every new release in the branches directory, too
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| 09:58 | so it's easier to get an overview about the "released" versions
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| 09:58 | <The_Code> will do it
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| 09:58 | <kl_eisbaer> thanks
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| 09:59 | and please keep the version number in the branched directory
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| 09:59 | like "easy-ltsp-0.3"
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| 09:59 | so it's easier to package :-)
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| 10:00 | <The_Code> i will keep it in mind
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| 10:00 | <kl_eisbaer> hm: the "new.xml" is mandatory?
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| 10:00 | <The_Code> no, just testfiles, is it in the repo
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| 10:01 | <kl_eisbaer> "Exception while executing!
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| 10:01 | Could not find file "*.xml"
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| 10:01 | <jorgezero> may i prevent a user to log-in on more than 1 client??
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| 10:01 | <The_Code> what did you do
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| 10:01 | <kl_eisbaer> So if the path to the file is in the config, it must exist?
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| 10:01 | <The_Code> yes when it is in config it has to be there
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| 10:02 | <kl_eisbaer> I just added xml_conf=/etc/easy-ltsp.conf to your config
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| 10:02 | hm... Why?
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| 10:02 | <The_Code> it is a field for the last xml configuration you made (not yet used)
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| 10:02 | <The_Code> i want to load the last one on startup
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| 10:03 | <kl_eisbaer> ok with that, but running the app initialy without any value stored in the config...
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| 10:03 | <The_Code> exactly
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| 10:03 | <kl_eisbaer> what xml file would you create and where would you store it?
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| 10:04 | Currently your app breaks if the field is filled with a non existing file
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| 10:04 | <The_Code> for now user chooses, when he saves, as i said this variable is not yet really used
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| 10:04 | <kl_eisbaer> hm. But even then....
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| 10:04 | <The_Code> maybe make a automaticly saved one in ~/.easy-ltsp
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| 10:04 | <kl_eisbaer> think about "user has choosen to store the last xml file on a floppy or usb stick"....
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| 10:05 | I think you can give a warning if the last stored file is not available - but the app should proceed
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| 10:05 | <The_Code> it should proceed now
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| 10:06 | <kl_eisbaer> and if the variable is not used, there wouldn't be an exeption, right? ;-)
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| 10:06 | <The_Code> when it is empty no exception
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| 10:06 | <kl_eisbaer> perhaps you should rename the value to
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| 10:06 | last_xml_conf=
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| 10:06 | instead of suggesting a possible pre-configured value here
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| 10:07 | <The_Code> yes, but it should be empty in the repo version
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| 10:07 | <kl_eisbaer> yes, fine with thta
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| 10:07 | that
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| 10:08 | <The_Code> good
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| 10:09 | <kl_eisbaer> hm: /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/ip-easy-ltsp-config.py is not a good place for an executable
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| 10:10 | <The_Code> not really
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> jorgezero: ask ur qu again?
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| 10:10 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: can you take /usr/sbin/ for this script?
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> was it about preventing a user from logging into 2 thin clients?
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| 10:11 | <The_Code> kl_eisbaer: two possible ways, either i know the path or it is in $PATH
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| 10:11 | <kl_eisbaer> $PATH should be ok
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| 10:12 | <The_Code> ok, then i need to make one little change
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| 10:12 | <kl_eisbaer> but currently you just look in the app directory as far as I can see, right?
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| 10:13 | <The_Code> i just start the script so either it is in the same directory or in $PATH
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| 10:13 | but currently app dir yes, but changed and will commit it
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| 10:14 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: so you've no PATH variable set in your app... ;-)
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| 10:14 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "place in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ldm/rc.d/S15userLoginCheck" (63 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/32
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| 10:14 | <The_Code> i have one pointing to the app dir
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| 10:14 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: I've workarounded the problem using symlinks for now.
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| 10:15 | But you should think about using the PATH of the user who calls the script
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| 10:15 | <The_Code> good
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| 10:16 | kl_eisbaer: it is used anyway, i fork a process with this script, so the location is either $PATH or current dir
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| 10:16 | <kl_eisbaer> ah, ok. so it looks like I have to enhance the bash script ;-)
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| 10:16 | <jorgezero> may i prevent a user to log-in on more than 1 client??
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| 10:17 | * cyberorg back | |
| 10:17 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: easy-ltsp-0.2.182-4.1.noarch.rpm should work
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| 10:17 | <Gadi> jorgezero: see my paste
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| 10:17 | that script will do just that
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| 10:17 | <The_Code> will try tonight
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| 10:17 | got to go now
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| 10:18 | <kl_eisbaer> The_Code: did you have an OBS account?
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| 10:18 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, The_Code i see you guys have sorted out packaging :)
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| 10:18 | we need someone to do debian and ubuntu packages now
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| 10:18 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: yes. Can you add the OBS account for The_Code for server:ltsp ?
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| 10:18 | <The_Code> i ran in buildservice some time ago and got an email that my buildservice account is active
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| 10:19 | <cyberorg> The_Code, whats your novell account us use to login to oBS?
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| 10:19 | <The_Code> japa83
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| 10:20 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: FYI: I've aggregated the italc package directly from the Education:desktop repo, so no need to copy or rebuild it every time
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| 10:20 | <cyberorg> you are also now maintainer of server:ltsp :)
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| 10:21 | kl_eisbaer, hmm, why patch?
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| 10:21 | <The_Code> wow
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| 10:22 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: not patch - aggregate :-) This copies always the newest packages into the server:ltsp repository
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| 10:22 | <cyberorg> anyone here want to try deb packaging on openSUSE Build Service?
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| 10:23 | kl_eisbaer, i mean why not just remove _link and put _aggregate
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| 10:23 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: already done
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| 10:23 | <The_Code> got to go now, cu
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| 10:23 | <cyberorg> ciao The_Code
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| 10:23 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg, The_Code: any other changes in the LTSP area for 11.0 around?
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| 10:24 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, i see project.diff and _link there
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| 10:24 | <kl_eisbaer> otherwise I like to include the easy-ltsp package in the next Beta for openSUSE-Education :-)
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| 10:24 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, take the last packages from server:ltsp :)
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| 10:24 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: looks like project.diff is a left over
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| 10:24 | cyberorg: changing it now...
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| 10:25 | <kl_eisbaer> hm. strange
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| 10:25 | <cyberorg> indeed :)
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| 10:26 | <kl_eisbaer> my local directory just has an aggregate...
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| 10:27 | <cyberorg> you did osc rm _link && osc add _aggregate && osc ci -m "remove link"
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| 10:28 | <kl_eisbaer> osc addremove && osc ci , yes
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| 10:29 | <cyberorg> let me pull and see what it contains
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| 10:30 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, did you see the latest bs ML post? you need to update osc
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| 10:30 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: gmbl... ;-)
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| 10:31 | <jmarijne> Hello everybody, I am new to this channel, to be kind please :-)
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| 10:31 | I am running a ltsp installation on 3 vessels, and have some problems with localdevices
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| 10:31 | they usually work, but after some time it stops working
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| 10:32 | I've followed the debugLocalDev guide
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| 10:32 | and come all the way to the end, ( ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add")
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| 10:32 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: osc-0.107-2.1 - strange
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| 10:32 | <jmarijne> there I get: root@ws194:/var/run# ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.211.12 192.168.211.12 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add"
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| 10:32 | X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
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| 10:32 | Error: /tmp/.ro2-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted
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| 10:33 | I think if I reboot the thin client, it will work again, it usually does,
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| 10:33 | but what could be the cause of this?
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| 10:34 | what is this socked used for anyway, is this just for localDevs, or used for more?
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| 10:34 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, zypper up -t package -r <obs tools repo> ;)
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| 10:37 | kl_eisbaer, oh no .sh please
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| 10:37 | lets just call it /usr/sbin/easy-ltsp
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| 10:37 | <jmarijne> Is there a mailing list I can post problems like these? cause I am bit stuck here
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| 10:37 | <kl_eisbaer> ok
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| 10:37 | <cyberorg> jmarijne, ltsp-discuss might have some similar issue posted
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| 10:40 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, we dont use /opt/ltsp on suse, everything is in /srv/
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| 10:40 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: feel free to fix the package :-)
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| 10:40 | <cyberorg> sure :)
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| 10:40 | <kl_eisbaer> I've also added the files as reference into the contrib directory in SVN
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| 10:41 | especially the png and desktop file should be part of the source
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| 10:41 | <cyberorg> yeah saw that
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| 10:42 | kl_eisbaer, lts.conf shouldn't be installed by easy-ltsp, it is installed by ltsp packages
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| 10:43 | <kl_eisbaer> cyberorg: see the FIXME one line above ;-)
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| 10:44 | <Gadi> jmarijne: what distro and LTSP version?
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| 10:44 | jmarijne: (and welcome to the crazy world of #ltsp)
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| 10:46 | <jmarijne> yes, thank you :-)
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| 10:46 | we are running ubuntu-let-me-check
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| 10:46 | gutsy
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| 10:47 | with 5.0.39.1
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| 10:47 | <Gadi> can you pastebot the contents of: /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter ?
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| 10:47 | !pastebot
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| 10:47 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 10:49 | <jmarijne> ah, it has been some time since I used irc, how do I address the pastbot (using xchat)
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| 10:50 | <Gadi> open it in a web browser
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| 10:50 | http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 10:50 | <jmarijne> yes, just to simple
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| 10:51 | <ltsppbot> "jmarijne" pasted "cat of /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter" (85 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/33
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| 10:51 | <jmarijne> things have improved since I last used irc :-)
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| 10:51 | <Gadi> jmarijne: comment out the line: env['DISPLAY'] = 'localhost:10.0'
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| 10:51 | in that script
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| 10:51 | and save it
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| 10:51 | (you need to use sudo)
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| 10:52 | <jmarijne> allright, do I need to restart the client ?
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| 10:53 | <Gadi> wouldnt hurt
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| 10:53 | <jmarijne> ok, just to understand what I just changed, why does this needs to go?
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| 10:54 | <Gadi> there were 2 LOCALDEV-related bugs in gutsy
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| 10:54 | this was one of them
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| 10:54 | the other was in:
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| 10:54 | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/*delayed*
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| 10:54 | (I forget the exact filename)
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| 10:55 | in that file, the "ssh...." command needed a "-X" flag added to it
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| 10:55 | you may want to check that, as well
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| 10:55 | <lejo> always usefull, a walking bugzilla ;)
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| 10:55 | <Gadi> and, if you need to change it, remember to run sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 10:55 | before rebooting a client
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| 10:55 | <jmarijne> very cool, this level of support is great
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| 10:56 | <Gadi> lejo: heh
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| 10:56 | lejo: what didnt work with ur new patch?
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| 10:56 | <cyberorg> kl_eisbaer, fixed, please pull
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| 10:56 | <jmarijne> Gadi: Yes, know, but thanks for the reminder
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| 10:56 | <Blinny> Gadi: Got something strange that may be related to S15checkuser -- I have someone logged in who isn't listed in 'who' or 'last |grep still' -- they're missing the "bash -c echo LTSPROCKS ; LANG=C /bin/sh -" process but have everything else.
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| 10:56 | <Gadi> jmarijne: btw, the bugs have been fixed since
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| 10:56 | Blinny: hmm...
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| 10:57 | <Blinny> Wait. I have two users like this. Maybe more.
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> are you using LDM_DIRECTX?
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| 10:57 | <jmarijne> yes, well this installation runs on a ship, and we have 128kbit internet access, pretty fully used with 1500ms latency
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| 10:57 | <lejo> Gadi: on my laptop it does enable numlock, if I try it on a TC is does not ;(
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| 10:57 | <Blinny> Gadi: Yes, currently for everyone.
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| 10:57 | <jmarijne> Gadi: how to check, not sure
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> Blinny: well, that explains why their session didnt die
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| 10:57 | with the socket
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| 10:58 | it must have dissociated
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| 10:58 | hmm...
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| 10:58 | <Blinny> Gadi: Well, I do work at a mental health agency (;
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| 10:58 | ...little psychotherapy humor there...
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| 10:58 | <Gadi> lol
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| 10:59 | hmm... I am surprised it illed the sentinel
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| 10:59 | *killed
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| 10:59 | <Blinny> No hurries no worries though - I (and the users) haven't noticed any ill effects.
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| 10:59 | * Gadi will have to check | |
| 10:59 | <Gadi> my guess is if LDM_DIRECTX were false, you would
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| 10:59 | :)
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| 11:00 | <Blinny> In an unconnected coincidence, I just turned it off for me right before using this script. I was the only encrypted, just doing speed testing.
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| 11:00 | <Blinny> ...maybe that's something we should mention on ltsp-discuss@
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> well, does it have ill effects for you?
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| 11:01 | :)
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| 11:01 | <Blinny> Shit. :s;off;on
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| 11:01 | Always get it backwards. Now, for everyone (myself included) LDM_DIRECTX=true
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> ah, well, at some point, we need to test with 2 thin clients with LDM_DIRECTX=false
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| 11:02 | and just see if there are ill effects
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| 11:02 | <Blinny> Gadi: I will test this afternoon.
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> ok
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| 11:02 | I will, too if I can
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| 11:02 | <Blinny> Is this at all related to what I'm seeing?
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> well, I am surprised you don't see LTSP_ROCKS procs for those users
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| 11:02 | <Blinny> Ah - Found another. Three users.
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| 11:03 | <Gadi> do they still have sshd procs?
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| 11:03 | <Blinny> what's funny is I have five normal ones listed in who
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| 11:03 | Yes, two of them.
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| 11:03 | <Gadi> 1 sec
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| 11:10 | <Gadi> Blinny: thats good - that means the sshd proc is still alive and well
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| 11:11 | just the LTSPROCKS got killed
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| 11:11 | <Blinny> Does that mean it's getting the wrong parent process?
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| 11:11 | (sometimes)?
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| 11:12 | (ala, a race condition)
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| 11:12 | Ah crap - I'm sorry Gadi I gotta run. Back in a good bit
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| 11:13 | <jmarijne> calling it a day, thank you very much for the excellent support, will continue tomorrow
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| 11:13 | <Gadi> no worries
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| 11:23 | <cyberorg> leio, can you add numlockx patch to server:ltsp please
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| 12:16 | <Blinny> Gadi: Back
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| 12:22 | <Blinny> Gadi: Okay. So I just logged in a test user, using LDM_DIRECTX=false and the LTSP_ROCKS did not happen.
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| 12:22 | <cyberorg> lejo, ^^ (can you add numlockx patch to server:ltsp please)
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| 12:22 | <Blinny> Gadi: Actually, it didn't work for my current login either.
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| 12:23 | Gadi: Lemme test the LDM_DIRECTX=false concurrent session killer
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| 12:24 | <Blinny> Gadi: Yeah. LDM_DIRECTX=false appears to work just fine too.
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| 12:34 | <Gadi> Blinny: so, are you saying we're ok?
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| 12:35 | <Blinny> Gadi: With the exception of the strangeness with LTSPROCKS, which I'm not sure of the function of.
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| 12:35 | But yes. LDM_DIRECTX=false seems to work identically to LDM_DIRECTX=true
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| 12:37 | <Gadi> well, the LTSPROCKS thing has 2 purposes:
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| 12:37 | 1. to tell LDM that the connection was made successfully
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| 12:38 | 2. a side effect is that since it is a shell, it registers with wtmp, so typing "who" actually works
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| 12:38 | :)
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| 12:38 | I had thought that it also kept the sshd socket open
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| 12:38 | but, apparently, you are telling me that the socket is alive and well, even if the LTSPROCKS sh is killed
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| 12:39 | so, that's good
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| 12:39 | <Gadi> I suppose it would be better that it not be killed, if only to keep enjoying "who"
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| 12:39 | but, hey
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| 12:41 | <Blinny> Sure.
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| 12:42 | Can we safely assume that S15checkuser is killing LTSPROCKS?
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| 12:43 | <Gadi> i think so
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| 12:44 | of course, if more folks on the listserv would test the cript instead of complaining about masking bugs...
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| 12:44 | :)
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| 12:54 | <Blinny> heh
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| 12:54 | I want to know how these five users managed to log on without having their LTSPROCKS killed
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| 12:55 | Three were this morning
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| 13:45 | <Blinny> Crap.
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| 15:55 | <MRH2> anyone using the new hp clients with the ati x1200 on board graphics?
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| 16:07 | <lejo> cyberorg: is it ok if I also update the ldm2 package to 2.0.7 ?
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| 17:36 | <supreme> how can i use mplayer, when i choose esd i cannot hear neither
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| 18:44 | <irule> X, rdp, cytrix and vnc are the most popular, common remote access solutions imho, but are there any alternatives that go beyond a remote desktop? I hope to find something that will show me a windows app from a win server on a linux desktop
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| 18:45 | is there such a thing?
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| 18:45 | <vagrantc> freenx
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| 18:45 | maybe
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| 18:45 | or nomachine-nx
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| 19:56 | <ace_suares> !seen ogra
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