IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 8 June 2018 (all times are UTC)
| 00:13 | <derick_> shell-screen method worked. I am logged in as root.
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| 00:13 | Had to use right ctrl and f2 because I am on a vm
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| 00:15 | <vagrantc> look for what process is hanging the login
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| 00:15 | pstree -a
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| 00:15 | at least, i find that useful
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| 00:16 | !nbd-checkupdate | echo derick_
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| 00:16 | <ltsp`> derick_ nbd-checkupdate: To avoid bug https://github.com/NetworkBlockDevice/nbd/issues/59, put this in lts.conf: INIT_COMMAND_RM_NBD_CHECKUPDATE="rm -rf /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/I01-nbd-checkupdate"
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| 00:16 | <vagrantc> you did try that? ^^
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| 00:16 | also, on the booted system, does /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts exist
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| 00:17 | <derick_> yes I had tried nbd-checkupdate
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc> could have checked my loop-mounting the image on the server, actually ...
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| 00:17 | <derick_> yes ssh_known_hosts exist
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc> echo $SERVER ?
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| 00:17 | <derick_> echo $SERVER shows my ip address
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| 00:18 | <vagrantc> ping server
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| 00:18 | do you have SERVER defined in /etc/lts.conf ?
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| 00:18 | <derick_> I am able to ping
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| 00:18 | <vagrantc> by the name "server" ?
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| 00:19 | <derick_> no.
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> by default, ldm basically does ssh -Y $USER@server
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| 00:19 | and /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts defines has entries for "server"
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| 00:20 | derick_: no, you don't have SERVER defined in /etc/lts.conf ?
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| 00:20 | * vagrantc has to head out soon | |
| 00:21 | <derick_> no
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| 00:21 | How do I add it?
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| 00:21 | just SERVER = my ip address ?
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| 00:23 | vagrantc : okay no worries. I will look up on the internet
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| 00:24 | <vagrantc> derick_: it should not be present in lts.conf by default
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| 00:25 | derick_: so if i'm understanding you correctly, that's fine
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| 00:25 | <derick_> okay.
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| 00:25 | <vagrantc> derick_: from tty2, can you "ssh server" or "ssh USER@server" ?
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| 00:26 | is LDM_SERVER defined?
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| 00:26 | in lts.conf
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| 00:26 | <derick_> i cannot ssh server. it gives me same public key denied
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| 00:27 | LDM_SERVER is not defined
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| 00:27 | <vagrantc> ssh-keyscan server
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| 00:28 | and from the server: ssh-keyscan localhost
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| 00:28 | do they look the same?
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| 00:29 | <derick_> no they look different
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| 00:29 | <vagrantc> that's your issue
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| 00:30 | or at least, that's probably your issue
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| 00:30 | <derick_> ahh... finally
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> you said the ltsp server is in virtualbox?
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| 00:30 | <derick_> yes
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| 00:30 | <vagrantc> it's probably sshing to the host machine, not the ltsp server
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| 00:31 | <derick_> That should be the case. How can I fix it.
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| 00:32 | we can talk about this later if you want to head out
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| 00:32 | <vagrantc> no idea what vagrant does to networking
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| 00:32 | this isn't an LTSP issue; it's a vagrant issue ... probably ask your mentor a bit about it
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| 00:33 | or rather, a vagrantup issue ... :)
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| 00:34 | though i'm surprised you've got nbd, proxydhcp and/or dhcp working, and not ssh
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| 00:34 | maybe try turning off ssh on the server, see if it passes it through to ltsp
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| 00:34 | do the LTSP server and host machine
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| 00:35 | have different ip addresses?
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| 00:35 | <derick_> yes. I they did something with ssh. If i turn off the ssh I wont be able to control it with vagrant
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| 00:35 | <vagrantc> i meant turning off ssh on the host machine, not the LTSP server
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| 00:36 | and is $SERVER in your client the ip address of your LTSP server, or the host machine?
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| 00:37 | <derick_> LTSP server.
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| 00:37 | strange
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| 00:37 | <vagrantc> your host server may be listening on all interfaces ... you might be able to restrict it's ssh configuration to not listen on the LTSP server address
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| 00:38 | <derick_> okay. I will look about it.
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| 00:39 | Thank you for all the help :) I have been continuously working for last day and night. I have been up last night too and its morning now(check current time in india)
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| 00:39 | finally I will be able to sleep well :)
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> be sure to take reasonable breaks :)
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| 00:41 | <derick_> haha. Yeah sure. Thank you again :)
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| 01:29 | <vagrantc> alkisg: 2a18cc5bdfaadac5b5e0ad5a41eda37e97b0caf3 introduced a bug in HOSTNAME_EXTRA ...
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| 01:30 | awk: line 1: sytax error at or near *
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| 01:30 | given the sheer number of * in there ... eesh.
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| 01:35 | alkisg: seems the ** aren't valid with the default awk on debian
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| 01:35 | alkisg: it almost works just turning those into single *
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| 01:48 | alkisg: seems like ^ should be used instead of **
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| 01:49 | yup, that seems to fix it for me.
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| 01:50 | arguably easier to read.
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| 01:52 | ** appears to be some sort of non-posix extension ...
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| 16:11 | <cvillasboa> alkisg: these?
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| 16:16 | I managed to make my client laptop, find the ltsp image, only when it is starting to stagnate in one part and I receive the following message 'nonblocking pool is initialized'
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| 16:18 | I did not mention you, that I'm using a different dhcp than the built-in ltsp-server
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| 16:20 | <cvillasboa> but, I stopped the dhcp service from the ltsp server
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| 16:21 | We use pfsense as dhcp in the company where I work
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| 16:23 | <morandiBrasil> hello please Does anyone have a tutorial on how to integrate a non-DHCP LTSP server into a Samba PDC?
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| 16:23 | <cvillasboa> Going back to my previous problem, the reason why I could not find my network image is because my adapter was in uefi mode
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| 16:23 | alkisg: you were right
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| 16:44 | <||cw> morandiBrasil: just have to add the PXE address option to the dhcp, might have to consult the samba docs on how to add options
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| 17:30 | <tux> hello
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| 17:30 | <Guest71462> hello
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| 17:31 | Does the ltsp thin client require a hard drive? or is everything done on the server
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| 17:36 | thin client is not booting via the network
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| 17:37 | tftp error file missing
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| 17:38 | <alkisg> Guest71462: ltsp thin and fat clients do not require a hard drive
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| 17:39 | <alkisg> If you get an error, paste the output of `sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999`
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| 17:39 | cvillasboa: try this
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| 17:39 | !ipappend
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| 17:39 | <ltsp`> ipappend: o temporarily solve DHCP problems in the initramfs, try putting IPAPPEND 3 after the APPEND line in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default. More info: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX#IPAPPEND_flag_val_.5BPXELINUX_only.5D
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| 17:41 | <Guest71462> dhcp seems to be working fine
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| 17:44 | <alkisg> Guest71462: the name in front of the lines is the one I'm speaking to
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| 17:45 | So I asked YOU for ltsp-info, and cvillasboa about ipappend
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| 17:46 | <Guest71462> alkisg: here is the ltsp-info output
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| 17:46 | server information: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: LinuxMint Description: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia Release: 18.3 Codename: sylvia server packages: ii ldm-server 2:2.2.18-1 un ltsp-client-core <none> un ltsp-docs <none> ii ltsp-server 5.5.7-1 ii ltsp-server-standalone 5.5.7-1 un ltsp-utils <none> ii ltspfs 1.4-2 packages in chroot: /opt/ltsp/amd64 ii ldm 2:2.2.18-1 un ldm-themes <none> ii ldm-ubuntu-theme 2:2.0.47 un
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| 17:47 | <alkisg> Guest71462: please read what I wrote, I used "termbin" there
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| 17:47 | You can't paste many lines in irc
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| 17:47 | They are either cut, or you get kicked for flooding
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| 17:47 | (08:39:09 μμ) alkisg: If you get an error, paste the output of `sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999`
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| 17:47 | <Guest71462> sorry ... newbie
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| 17:47 | <alkisg> np
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| 17:52 | <Guest71462> No LSB modules are available.
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| 17:52 | http://termbin.com/9a91
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| 17:52 | thats all it says
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| 17:55 | ah, now I see what termbin is
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| 17:55 | <alkisg> Guest71462: ok, you have all the necessary packages although you're not using the ppa
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| 17:55 | Anyways, sounds like a dhcp/tftp misconfiguration
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| 17:55 | Which tftp server are you using, tftpd-hpa or dnsmasq? check their logs, to see which file isn't there
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| 17:56 | <Guest71462> the client does see and go to the correct ip address when it attempts the pxe boot
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| 17:57 | not sure...easy way to find out? (sorry, real newb)
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 17:57 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is the recommented method to install and maintain LTSP for "usual" setups. Since it doesn't involve chroots, it requires little to no command line to maintain it. It automatically supports both thin and fat ltsp clients. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> !ltsp-manager
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| 17:57 | <ltsp`> ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> If you're new to ltsp, follow one of those 2 methods
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| 18:04 | <Guest71462> Thank you !
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| 19:47 | <cvillasboa> One question, a few minutes ago, I wrote something in the chat, but I closed my browser and the conversation was lost. There is some way to save it.
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| 19:51 | I do not know if they managed to read the new problem that I have
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| 19:59 | <vagrantc> a lot of folks trying LTSP on linux mint lately...
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| 20:03 | <cvillasboa> alkisg: I am going to try this
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| 20:03 | ipappend: o temporarily solve DHCP problems in the initramfs, try putting IPAPPEND 3 after the APPEND line in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default. More info: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX#IPAPPEND_flag_val_.5BPXELINUX_only.5D
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| 20:03 | <alkisg> !irclogs
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| 20:03 | <ltsp`> irclogs: This channel is logged, archives are available at http://irclogs.ltsp.org
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| 20:08 | <cvillasboa> Okay, I just saw that you sent me that to try, through chat logs precisely
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| 20:33 | <avena> I am having problem for ltsp5 i386 working with MSTI PSX 1000MHz (http://www.helpinformatica.info/ler_oferta.php?codigo_oferta=39) - is it possible to work?
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| 20:49 | <alkisg> avena: does it boot e.g. ubuntu? If yes, then it can run ltsp
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| 20:50 | !cheap-client
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| 20:50 | <ltsp`> cheap-client: https://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-c_11262/?attr=2081-1279
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| 20:50 | <alkisg> But in general, you can buy 10 times faster clients under 100 euros
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| 20:50 | So it might not be worth it to spend days to get ancient hardware running
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| 20:58 | <avena> ltsp-info - https://pastebin.com/WX3KVweC
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| 20:58 | a friend already bought the terminals, did not consult me. the old microcomputers works perfectly, but this one of error. https://imgur.com/FH5MtLE
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| 21:06 | <avena> This kernel requires an i586 CPU, but only detected an i486 CPU - https://imgur.com/pMGGoD3 - I believe that my friend was prejudiced in the purchase. if I try ltsp4.2, could it work?
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> avena: I think debian wheezy should work good
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| 21:09 | avena: how many terminals?
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| 21:10 | <avena> I believe that 20 terminals.
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| 21:11 | I'm in São Paulo - Brazil, my friend is in Rio de Janeiro, I'm helping remotely
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| 21:11 | <alkisg> So 20 486 processors, that would cost like 100 euros? Throw them away :D
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| 21:11 | <avena> :)
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> You could also try ubuntu 10.04 or 8.04
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| 21:12 | <vagrantc> wow
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| 21:17 | <avena> install debian 9.0, in the chroot environment of ltsp put debian 7.0 - Wheezy. ltsp-build-client ---- mirror for debian repositories 7.0 can you allow me to do this?
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| 21:17 | <alkisg> Some software is not compatible between 9 and 7. You might need debian 7 on the server too.
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| 21:18 | When I tried to boot an ubuntu 8.04 chroot from an ubuntu 16.04 server, it took me a couple of days to fix all the problems
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| 21:21 | <avena> I'm going to sit down and cry.
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| 21:21 | :)
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| 21:47 | <cvillasboa> alkisg: Today I had a busy day at work, I could not even prove what you sent me, I will not be back until Tuesday, as I said here Monday is a holiday, thank you very much, good weekend for you
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